Guild Wars 2

Before ascended weapons were introduced the most common ways of getting the best gear was crafting, buying on the trading post or buy for dungeon tokens.
The ascended weapons can only be crafted and can drop but good luck with that.
Like most ascended items they cannot be sold so no chance of just buying them from another person.

So I propose that the ascended weapons and possibly also armour in the future should be possible to buy for tokens. However since its not suppose to be so easy to get them then simply adding ascended gear to the dungeon merchants which would only cost more tokens is not the right solution. My idea is to add a 9th dungeon merchant who will sell the ascended chests for all types of tokens – say 50 of each giving a total of 400.
Since we have the wallet now to keep all our tokens for us it no longer is a problem to store every type at the same time. I don’t think Fractal Relics should be included because they are needed to buy infusions anyway.
I think this is a good solution also because some dungeon are ran less often than others like AC and CoF. And this would motivate a lot of players to do all 8 dungeons more often.

Wait a couple months. Also, 400 tokens would be ridiculously low compared to the time it takes to get grind the mats for crafting one.

Tom Gore.4035:

Wait a couple months. Also, 400 tokens would be ridiculously low compared to the time it takes to get grind the mats for crafting one.

The actual amount needed would be decided by the developers. 50 of each is what I proposed but it could be 100 of each giving a total of 800 or perhaps even more.
But do I really have to tell you this?

Rikimaru.7890:

Tom Gore.4035:

Wait a couple months. Also, 400 tokens would be ridiculously low compared to the time it takes to get grind the mats for crafting one.

The actual amount needed would be decided by the developers. 50 of each is what I proposed but it could be 100 of each giving a total of 800 or perhaps even more.
But do I really have to tell you this?

If you are going to give an example, please give an even moderately reasonable one. A reasonable number would be in the ballpark of 20000 tokens to come even close the amount of grinding you have to do to craft one.

Tom Gore.4035:

Rikimaru.7890:

Tom Gore.4035:

Wait a couple months. Also, 400 tokens would be ridiculously low compared to the time it takes to get grind the mats for crafting one.

The actual amount needed would be decided by the developers. 50 of each is what I proposed but it could be 100 of each giving a total of 800 or perhaps even more.
But do I really have to tell you this?

If you are going to give an example, please give an even moderately reasonable one. A reasonable number would be in the ballpark of 20000 tokens to come even close the amount of grinding you have to do to craft one.

20000? You are telling me that getting 2 stacks of the ascended materials which drop quite often is as hard to get as 2500 Shards of Zhaitan?

Total cost of crafting one ascended weapon, not including the materials and gold required to level to 500 (which is quite a bit, too):

21000 Karma
5 laurels
20 skill points
~10 gold
810 iron ore
360 platinum ore
900 mithril ore
30 orichalcum ore
17 globs of ectoplasm
240 soft wood logs
180 hard wood logs
90 hard wood logs
450 elder wood logs
30 ancient wood logs
20 piles of crystalline dust
500 dragonite ore
500 empyreal fragments
500 bloodstone dust
30 obsidian shards

plus a number of exotic weapons/armor to salvage for 10 globs of dark matter, 5 T6 mats for orich inscription

I agree that Arah P4 should give more tokens than CoF P1, but that’s a whole different discussion. Running 300 dungeon paths sounds a lot, but if you got an ascended from that you’d also be around 450 gold richer.

Tom Gore.4035:

Total cost of crafting one ascended weapon, not including the materials and gold required to level to 500 (which is quite a bit, too):

21000 Karma
5 laurels
20 skill points
~10 gold
810 iron ore
360 platinum ore
900 mithril ore
30 orichalcum ore
17 globs of ectoplasm
240 soft wood logs
180 hard wood logs
90 hard wood logs
450 elder wood logs
30 ancient wood logs
20 piles of crystalline dust
500 dragonite ore
500 empyreal fragments
500 bloodstone dust
30 obsidian shards

plus a number of exotic weapons/armor to salvage for 10 globs of dark matter, 5 T6 mats for orich inscription

I agree that Arah P4 should give more tokens than CoF P1, but that’s a whole different discussion. Running 300 dungeon paths sounds a lot, but if you got an ascended from that you’d also be around 450 gold richer.

No that’s not much when I needed 1500 gold ore for making a Triforge I mined it in about 2-3 hours. And mithril is even more common than gold so I don’t see the problem. So your comparison is not valid at least to me.

My point was, you already get great rewards for running the dungeons. Probably the best in the game compared to the time spent.

And in fact, by running just 25 dungeon paths you will have 500 empyreal fragments, which happens to be the slowest ascended material to obtain outside of dungeons.

And 1500 gold ore mined in 3 hours? That’s about one node per 20 seconds on average. Sorry but I’ll have to call bs here.

We get it that you like running dungeons, but you’re already reaping the best rewards in the game from doing what you like. You don’t need anything more. Sorry.

Tom Gore.4035:

My point was, you already get great rewards for running the dungeons. Probably the best in the game compared to the time spent.

And in fact, by running just 25 dungeon paths you will have 500 empyreal fragments, which happens to be the slowest ascended material to obtain outside of dungeons.

And 1500 gold ore mined in 3 hours? That’s about one node per 20 seconds on average. Sorry but I’ll have to call bs here.

We get it that you like running dungeons, but you’re already reaping the best rewards in the game from doing what you like. You don’t need anything more. Sorry.

Oh I see so just as I thought you aren’t good at running dungeons and envy those that are ok I’m done then.

Rikimaru.7890:

Tom Gore.4035:

My point was, you already get great rewards for running the dungeons. Probably the best in the game compared to the time spent.

And in fact, by running just 25 dungeon paths you will have 500 empyreal fragments, which happens to be the slowest ascended material to obtain outside of dungeons.

And 1500 gold ore mined in 3 hours? That’s about one node per 20 seconds on average. Sorry but I’ll have to call bs here.

We get it that you like running dungeons, but you’re already reaping the best rewards in the game from doing what you like. You don’t need anything more. Sorry.

Oh I see so just as I thought you aren’t good at running dungeons and envy those that are ok I’m done then.

Why would I envy you for doing a lot of stuff I don’t like doing?

It very clearly is you who’s envious of the players who do other content than just dungeons, because they’re getting their ascendeds and you are not

I agree with the notion that 1 aspect of the game shouldn’t give you better chances of advancement. They should provide other means of getting the materials equally across the board. Sneaking in the aspect that WvW and dungeons offers better material acquisition is dishonest imo because they can’t blame the bots since these materials can’t be sold so there’s only one other explanation, they want people to play only in 1 way and 1 way only, which further proves their disdain for the open world content. If they truly were interested in balance then they’d make it equal across the board.