Guild Wars 2

Thief is too strong on PvP and WvW. Few minutes ago 1 Thief kill 5 other players without any problems. I was among his victims. Please, change this. Most of time he is invisible and he cannot be hit.

he can use a lot of invisibility skills, steal 1 power of another person, makes heavy damage and does heavy critical hits.

The only way to battle a thief well is either as necro using the blood sucking attack while on the ground, fear or AOE damage.

Once you got a thief in place you can easily kill him as he doesn’t live that long.

Believe it or not. Thief is currently the strongest class and I agree that he needs to be nerfed. Same with mesmer and last but not least warrior and guardian.

In PvP mesmer, warrior and guardian are no problem but in WvW there’s most often no chance to defeat them. I’m not going to say more about thief anymore… just… do something about him.

react faster.
block.
evade.
channeled attacks.
pre-empt where they’re coming from.
dead thief.

(oh; and pack a stunbreaker)

Linguistically Inept.6583:

react faster.
block.
evade.
channeled attacks.
pre-empt where they’re coming from.
dead thief.

(oh; and pack a stunbreaker)

This sometimes does not help at all if you’re fighting a really really good thief.

People really need to stop bringing up these “Thief killed X people” cases.

Firstly, most of these groups are not really “groups” in a proper sense of the word. Rather than being a party or having some kind of organization, it usually just ends up meaning “more than 1 character belonging to the same server in the same immediate vicinity”. And a handful of lemmings isn’t really going to be a credible bunch.

Secondly, Thieves aren’t the only ones that can fight multiple enemies. There have been multiple instances of eles doing the same. Heck, I am pretty sure that most classes in the hands of a good player against multiple beginners is going to end in favor of the former.

Thirdly, most people completely braindie in the face of a thief. Majority has never played as thief, majority don’t know crap about how a Thief plays out. I’ll admit that before I played a Thief, about the only thing I could do when facing a Thief was stare at my screen, mash buttons and hope something good happened. Ever since I brought a Thief up to level 80 and tested various builds, I’ve gained knowledge into what a Thief is capable of doing and how they’re likely to do it.

Believe it or not. Thief is currently the strongest class and I agree that he needs to be nerfed.

Thief the strongest? Yeah right. Majority of all thieves are hilariously glassy.

I don’t enjoy fighting thieves at all. Half the time they are invisible and when you’re finally about to kill them they just spam Heartseeker to get away, teleport, and then stack stealth. No other profession can compete with that kind of survivability in WvW (except Ele’s with vapor form, though that’s more situational).

Olba.5376:

Thirdly, most people completely braindie in the face of a thief. Majority has never played as thief, majority don’t know crap about how a Thief plays out. I’ll admit that before I played a Thief, about the only thing I could do when facing a Thief was stare at my screen, mash buttons and hope something good happened. Ever since I brought a Thief up to level 80 and tested various builds, I’ve gained knowledge into what a Thief is capable of doing and how they’re likely to do it.

This x1000. As a non D/D ele (hate the spec, only use it for farming due to burst capability) in WvW, that was my problem against thieves. Once I leveled a thief to 80 and experimented a bit while I camped boss events, I learned what they do, how they do it, and ways to counter them. Learning how a class plays is key to defeating them.

Olba

Thief the strongest? Yeah right. Majority of all thieves are hilariously glassy.

That’s the purpose. A thief does high damage and high crits and is supposed to be glassy. The thief is supposed to dodge 90% of your attacks while healing themselves for the rest of the 10%.

Wow guys hold it. I don’t think that you can beat multiple enemies without changing your build to be able to do so. Still some people do not enjoy changing their build. Some people have fun to play with their build which is much more comfortable and enjoyable to them while it gives them great disadvantage to other enemies with a better build.

This often is no question of skill.

Last but not least. I played almost every class enough to swiftly figure out the basics and checked out the whole skill tree’s. [necro(80), warrior(16), guardian(15), thief (5), ele (11) {deleted mesmer (2) for pvp}]

I know how the classes work but it isn’t enough to know how to defeat them.
I fight level 8 enemies alone with my thief without any trouble not getting hit even one time. Good PvE is no comparison but there are more than enough video’s where thieves kill large groups of good skilled players and even has epic fights against strong and good skilled ele’s.

GreenNekoHaunt.8527:

Wow guys hold it. I don’t think that you can beat multiple enemies without changing your build to be able to do so. Still some people do not enjoy changing their build. Some people have fun to play with their build which is much more comfortable and enjoyable to them while it gives them great disadvantage to other enemies with a better build.

The generic glass cannon Thief runs full berserker’s stuff with crap like Mug and Basilisk Venom.

Those undying kittens tend to run something very different. Something like D/D with full Valkyrie armor and Hidden Killer

This often is no question of skill.

True, it doesn’t take much effort to kill a headless chicken.

Last but not least. I played almost every class enough to swiftly figure out the basics and checked out the whole skill tree’s. [necro(80), warrior(16), guardian(15), thief (5), ele (11) {deleted mesmer (2) for pvp}]

So you’re somehow able to have a quick look at all the skills and traits and instantly know exactly how a build plays how, how they think in combat and whether a trait that sounds rather unimpressive is just that or a total gamechanger?

I know how the classes work but it isn’t enough to know how to defeat them.
I fight level 8 enemies alone with my thief without any trouble not getting hit even one time. Good PvE is no comparison but there are more than enough video’s where thieves kill large groups of good skilled players and even has epic fights against strong and good skilled ele’s.

That’s because being level 8 is not enough.