Guild Wars 2

Please increase the kick vote requirement to 4 votes instead of 2. It really makes no sense for it to require only 2 votes since it makes abusing really easy. I think the majority of the party should decide if someone has to be kicked, not that guy and his friend.

Many simular suggestions have been made and it is complicated.
On one hand it is never nice to be kicked I totally understand that. It is also mis-used by some, that should be taken care off.

The other side however is the right to play with who you want. Requiring a vote kick of 3 or 4 means pushing back such a fundamental right.

I have therefor a much different solution:
‘While playing Guild Wars 2, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the Game.’ This quote is actually in the Rules of Conduct and therefor part of the user agreement.

My suggestion is that Anet punishes more often and more severe for people breaking this rule by misusing their right to play with who they want to not respect other people right to play and enjoy the game. So when people are misusing this to kick 3/5th off a party at the last boss in a dungeon, they should be suspended for 72 hours.
The rules allready gives them the possibiliity, they just have to start acting and the whole issue is solved pretty quick.

So … that means if I join any arah party with my friend, I’m unkickable ?
If if two members have a disconnect, you’re unable to kick either?
Or, you’re in a 4man party you can’t kick ? You have to invite someone to kick another, but then are stuck with the new unkickable guy?

The current sstem is the best trade-off of advantages and disadvantages. Try to join dungeons (and be the bad, unkickable guy) or play with friends.

Nretep.2564:

So … that means if I join any arah party with my friend, I’m unkickable ?
If if two members have a disconnect, you’re unable to kick either?
Or, you’re in a 4man party you can’t kick ? You have to invite someone to kick another, but then are stuck with the new unkickable guy?

The current sstem is the best trade-off of advantages and disadvantages. Try to join dungeons (and be the bad, unkickable guy) or play with friends.

Trixie.7614:

I think the majority of the party should decide if someone has to be kicked, not that guy and his friend.

If you have 4 members, 3 votes should be required. And yes, I would take the “1 guy and his friend are unkickable (and yet reportable)” then “1 guy and his friend kick everyone and leave unreported”.

Trixie.7614:

Nretep.2564:

So … that means if I join any arah party with my friend, I’m unkickable ?
If if two members have a disconnect, you’re unable to kick either?
Or, you’re in a 4man party you can’t kick ? You have to invite someone to kick another, but then are stuck with the new unkickable guy?

The current sstem is the best trade-off of advantages and disadvantages. Try to join dungeons (and be the bad, unkickable guy) or play with friends.

Trixie.7614:

I think the majority of the party should decide if someone has to be kicked, not that guy and his friend.

If you have 4 members, 3 votes should be required. And yes, I would take the “1 guy and his friend are unkickable (and yet reportable)” then “1 guy and his friend kick everyone and leave unreported”.

I dont think you get the point here.
Say you are in Arah, path 4, and spent 3 hours off your time. 2 people dosconnect at the same time (a provider has issues and htey both use the same one).
Cause the team got that far you decide to wait for 5 minutes, they might get back. But alas they dont, you dont want to wait forever and want to kick them…… ow oops, they changed it, we cant kick with only 3 people in the team anymore.

Bottom line is: You are setting up gun detection ports at a high school cause one or two kids brought guns to the school. I say we just expell the few rotten apples.

So my suggestion stays. Anet, keep your own policy closer to your hard. As a community you can help as well. Let Anet know it is an issue. Report these peoples. Post a support ticket.

And how am I supposed to report them, when the party chat and everything is gone after I am kicked?

Your issue can be easily solved. Offline people should be kicked by only 2 votes.

It’s not that hard to think of a solution if you spend some time on it. And this clearly is a serious issue.

or a more simple solution. offline people get auto kicked by the game after a few minutes.

Like reporting, kicking should have options menu.

kick player?;
a) not experienced enough/geared adequately for this team
b) abusive and disruptive behaviour
c) disconnected and can’t log back on.
d) persistently trying to use exploits

it still requires a second player to second the vote..but they also have to choose the same category. If the player the team wants to remove is doing any of these, it wouldn’t be hard for at least one of the other 3 players to choose the same reason even though they are blind to seeing what other players are wanting them removed for. In other words..kicking becomes a double blind vote.

Tuesday, November 14, 2013 at around 5:20 pm server time, 2 people joined my party and immediately kicked everyone in the party. I didn’t get a chance to see their names, but I know one of them had 9000+ achievement points.

To you all counter-suggesting with possible scenarios, would it be unreasonable to ask for at least 3 votes to kick? Doesn’t have to be 4, but at least make it harder for someone to grief people. Griefing is a more serious issue than being bad in a party. If someone’s truly horrible, it shouldn’t be hard to get 3 votes to kick him/her.

At the moment, there is no possible way to mitigate those 2 griefers I just experienced. I couldn’t report them because it happened too fast. They can grief people with impunity.

Okay, I have thought of a good suggestion: make the instance-starter immune to vote-kicks. Why even allow them to get kicked at all in the first place? If the host leaves, the whole run is over.

This way, people can’t grief by joining a random party and kicking the host.

Trixie.7614: Repost the suggestion as: requiring all online players to agree to a kick. This will stop the replies regarding this issue.