Guild Wars 2

Lets face it, warriors are outrageously op compared to other professions. I say they start by cutting 20% off, well, everything. Hp, attack power, wep skills, traits and everything else a warrior can do is usually much more powerful then any comparable build on any other profession. Undo every other nerf on every other profession or cut the warrior down into what it was meant to be. I realize that even if the warrior 20% cut on everything was actually implemented, the class itself would still be incredibly op, but its a step in the right direction.

We want action now, reduce the power difference between warrior and every other class (except maybe thief, which is probably the only class where it’s supposed to be)

Warrior’s are NOT hard to kill in PvP…they are actually pretty easy to rip into shreds as nigh any class. All classes have a weakness. Try changing how you attack and/or your build/weapons.

Wha… but… where did…

Ok, let me try to be constructive here.

Warrior has been said to be the profession that the devs were most happy with, so they’re the stick by which the others are measured. No sense in nerfing something that’s working fine. If it was needed, they could always buff the rest.

Other than that, warriors are not OP. They’re definitely not “much more powerful than any comparable build on any profession”. If they were, you’d see nothing but warriors on sPvP or dungeons, those guys are pretty quick to identify OP stuff.

Or…

You could either be a warrior or learn how to play your class.

I’m not pro nerfs. However, if the wars are where the devs want them to be, then some classes are majorly getting screwed. Go read the ranger’s forums. It’s not about knowing how to play it. They took away our dps. We’re getting beat by other classes in bow dps…How sad is that.

It isn’t sad. There is a very large picture to look at. I’m not saying that everything is exactly where it should be, but looking at the shortbow skills, the DPS got nerfed because the support and control aspects of a shortbow are so strong.

To keep this on the original topic: I play a warrior in sPvP. I get killed a lot. I have a 2:1 win:loss ratio, so I think I contribute, despite getting killed. I have a lot of health. So do necromancers. It isn’t a win button, playing a warrior. Warrior is a control- and damage-focused class, with decent staying power and some utilities for party support. We’re well rounded, and in the hands of an adept player we’re some tough kittens. But we’re not OP. It is just difficult to make a bad warrior build.

Edit: Fixed a couple typos and poor wording choices.

Vorkk.4927:

I’m not pro nerfs. However, if the wars are where the devs want them to be, then some classes are majorly getting screwed. Go read the ranger’s forums. It’s not about knowing how to play it. They took away our dps. We’re getting beat by other classes in bow dps…How sad is that.

…and yet Ranger greatsword makes a warrior look like a small child with the same weapon whenever hundred blades is on recharge.

Build your ranger into condition based shortbow and you rip apart single targets. Longbow is about being able to sit back and peper targets. The warrior is about getting in close with the longbow…aoeing as they close to switch to melee weaponry (hence why warriors get a trait line to make weapon swapping faster, they HAVE to weapon swap to be competative).

One of the problems I see is people get caught up in what the classes have always been represented and how they have been built. Ranger is built to be medium range (look at dual axes or shortbow) and even close range (previously mentioned greatsword) rather than super long range. They changed the archetype a bit is all. Do I think it looks wierd? YES! I think of a ranger and I think of a longbow using person…they seem to have gone the more realistic route however, those known as rangers in the real world tended to uses melee weapons and short range weapons rather than longbows. After all, a true longbow did not work that well in thick wilderness settings.

I suggest you go read the thread on the ranger forum and educate yourself to see how wrong you are. 500+ replies and 50 000+ views. You know there’s a problem!

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Ranger-SB-Nerf-Not-40-milliseconds/page/13#post407969

Read the Mesmer forums, everyone there is complaining. Or read the Elementalist forums, they’re pretty unhappy too. Or read any class forum on any MMO ever. Players always complain that their class is too weak and whine about nerfs, it’s just how it is.

Luckily devs have access to actual data from which to determine if a class is losing too much in PvP, or dealing too little damage, or not being played, or whatever. GW1 had a pretty good balance record (in PvP at least), so I trust Anet to balance these things out over time.

Vorkk.4927:

I suggest you go read the thread on the ranger forum and educate yourself to see how wrong you are.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Ranger-SB-Nerf-Not-40-milliseconds/page/13#post407969

Oh lovely, you guys got hit recently as well. I haven’t played my ranger in awhile…obviously I need to retest a few things.

SevenSigma.7462:

Read the Mesmer forums, everyone there is complaining. Or read the Elementalist forums, they’re pretty unhappy too. Or read any class forum on any MMO ever. Players always complain that their class is too weak and whine about nerfs, it’s just how it is.

Luckily devs have access to actual data from which to determine if a class is losing too much in PvP, or dealing too little damage, or not being played, or whatever. GW1 had a pretty good balance record (in PvP at least), so I trust Anet to balance these things out over time.

We had to explain them how the nerf was more than 7%. No offense but if you’re putting your unwavering faith into the devs, you’ll be disappointed. A lot of classes have reasons to nag. Atm, wars and thiefs are pretty well balanced. The rest have issues. A lot of them. Ranger is one of the worse and so are eles.

Vorkk.4927:

A lot of classes have reasons to nag. Atm, wars and thiefs are pretty well balanced. The rest have issues. A lot of them. Ranger is one of the worse and so are eles.

Sure, but why do you think devs are not doing anything about this? It’s not a matter of blind faith, GW1 had weekly updates for its whole life. There was an Elementalist balance just a few weeks ago! The game is a month old, there will be_lots_ of nerfs and buffs until things are somewhat balanced.

SevenSigma.7462:

Vorkk.4927:

A lot of classes have reasons to nag. Atm, wars and thiefs are pretty well balanced. The rest have issues. A lot of them. Ranger is one of the worse and so are eles.

Sure, but why do you think devs are not doing anything about this? It’s not a matter of blind faith, GW1 had weekly updates for its whole life. There was an Elementalist balance just a few weeks ago! The game is a month old, there will be_lots_ of nerfs and buffs until things are somewhat balanced.

As per Anet, Wars are pretty much exactly where they want the game to be. Nerfin a class that was already much weaker isn’t a good start. If you read the wiki pages even from gw1, there are a lot of people pointing out that the devs didn’t seem to know how their own game worked. Fixing issues should be a much bigger priority than nerfing.

Vorkk.4927:

Fixing issues should be a much bigger priority than nerfing.

These aren’t usually done by the same team.

SevenSigma.7462:

Vorkk.4927:

Fixing issues should be a much bigger priority than nerfing.

These aren’t usually done by the same team.

If the head doesn’t know what the tail is doing, then we have much bigger problems than the bugs and nerfs…

Dear kittens. Let me try this again.

You said was that your class was getting “screwed”. I pointed out that the game is very young and that there is a dedicated team to balance it. Some rough patches are to be expected. What is your point, exactly?

My point is you don’t really have a point because you don’t know how they work internally. You just made a bunch of random posts about how they work. First they are working on it then two teams do this and that… You’re a bit of a storyteller, no? But you seem to be getting upset too. If you need to have the last word to feel better, I’ll let you have it. Tell me how it all works and I’ll agree :-)

Thanks for that opportunity, I’ll take it.

This is how they work: first, the devs spend 8 hours a day scouring the forums for any signs of disgruntled players, especially poorly spelled threads with nondescriptive titles and posted on the wrong forums, such as this one. Basically, whoever whines the louder gets a buff.

Buff a few other classes, except thieves and warriors.

That will make it even and fair to everyone.

Vigilence.4902:

Buff a few other classes, except thieves and warriors.

That will make it even and fair to everyone.

Pretty much what everyone is saying. +1

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/colin-johanson-outlines-guild-wars-2-live-game-development/

^Mentioned that bugs and game balance are handled by the same team, FYI.

Warriors are not OP. I’ll run a Warrior off or fight him to a complete standstill if he doesn’t have backup. And I lol at the glass cannon hundred blades build. Just before I kill it, that is.

Maybe I’ll lol a little more after if it was a Charr. >_>

Luigi, don’t tell Seven he/she’s wrong, they will FREAK out!!

I also agree that wars are not OP. Other classes just need to be brought up to their level.

Warriors get pensions? This is an outrage. I agree that Warrior pensions should be nerfed into the ground unless other classes also get comparable stipends. This clear display of class favoritism by the Devs really takes the kitten cake.

Huh. So I was wrong. I guess I should freak out then.

Seriously, we all agree Warriors are not OP. I believe the next content patch is Oct 22, let’s see what we’ll see about the other classes then.

Buff a few other classes, except thieves and warriors.
That will make it even and fair to everyone.

but thieves are weaker than warriors…