Guild Wars 2

im not sure if they said they wont ever do it but anyhow…
should I ask, WOULD it be a good idea to implement some form of rifting where other server players can invade a world of another server at a certain time and PVP against who they want to fight?

Now this would be very tricky mind you because the worlds got level zones restrictions, do you won’t have an level 80 come to one of the lower level places, instead it would most likely be at Orr if anything for 80’s.

Now for them to do this although it’s easier said than done, what they would probably have to do is make a certain time of day lets say 1pm to 3pm to rift and after 3pm, they are returned to lions arch into their server if they are invading a place. Not only that but they would have to drop or gain levels of whichever zone they are entering.

I’d say it could be very fun and for me wouldn’t make roaming around be as dull well for me that is, and YES I do have fun helping in events tho I do it mostly for the karma and drops to gear up and stuff but I’d say this could be awesome, and don’t give me that “it’s guild wars” or something like that.

Only thing tho, is I am undecided about the rifting times and if it should be a daily thing once a day at a certain time, or just once a week THO I’D PREFER TO RIFT EVERYDAY. I think sometime at night after 12am or 1am would be a good time in est/eastern time because then lots of people could be waking up over seas and could login before they go to work if they got work in the morning, but again if its everyday then they could just have weekends free to do it but i’d say the early morning is good. Maybe do 2 different times a day and both rifting events LAST 2 HRS AND IF YOU ARE STILL RIFTING YOU ARE RETURNED HOME TO YOUR SERVER.

I also think this could be a new way to gain badges of honor or new rewards maybe some day. OH AND ANOTHER REASON WHY IT COULD BE GOOD IT COULD GIVE PEOPLE ON A DEAD SERVER THAT PVP another option for pvp.

EDITED
Feel free to add ideas to this if you want… It doesn’t exactly have to be in this form, maybe the person rifting shows up on the map like an outlaw if they invade another world server or something,.

And to answer some questions, someone asked what if you could only be on GW 2 during the time rifting is enabled and you don’t want to PVP? Simple, they could design a disable rifting option to the world menu, and when you choose this, maybe the rifter cannot do no damage to you, and you cannot do not damage to them. Maybe you both could be shiny colors to let each other know that the person has disabled rifting so they don’t waste their time looking for someone to rift on.

Someone said PVE Players are forced to pvp? I said No, only if they encounter a rifter which is true, and then thats the only time they are forced but even then they don’t have to fight back but again you could disable rifting if you don’t want to pvp so my answer works for the guys statment below this.

Server vs server is WVW, but WVW is completely different from rifting because it’s not a server vs server thing.. It’s someone invading your server to fight players. The on;y thing that is similar between rifting and wvw is that it’s 2 players from two different servers, but when I think of server vs server, I think of more than just 2 people, I think of a huge battle and yeah rifting can get big, I know that but again it’s different.

No.

• Regular PvE players are forced into PvP
• There is a server vs server system already, it’s callen WvW

Riselight.3695:

No.

• Regular PvE players are forced into PvP

But as a WvW player i am forced into PvE.

Riselight.3695:

No.

• Regular PvE players are forced into PvP
• There is a server vs server system already, it’s callen WvW

couldnt ahve said it better, short and to the point, and sums up my thiughts exactly as well

Riselight.3695:

No.

• Regular PvE players are forced into PvP
• There is a server vs server system already, it’s callen WvW

WVW IS NOT RIFTING, there is a difference and it isn’t server vs server, thats WVW. Secondly players are forced into PVP? No, only if it happens when they come across a rifter, and THERE would be time zones so you know rifting has started and ended.

and waht if you are not intresting in PvP but only have time to come online at the time when rifting is enabled due to work/school/timezone etc?

And how can you say wvw is NOT server vs server? wvw is 3 servers piatched against eachother for control of the wvw maps, so that is indeed server vs server.

Beside i geuss you took your rifting concept from the mmo called rift, where rifting is in fact NOT server versus server but rather faction vs faction, which means wvw in its essence is more server vs server than rifting orginally is…

GummiBear.2756:

and waht if you are not intresting in PvP but only have time to come online at the time when rifting is enabled due to work/school/timezone etc?

And how can you say wvw is NOT server vs server? wvw is 3 servers piatched against eachother for control of the wvw maps, so that is indeed server vs server.

Beside i geuss you took your rifting concept from the mmo called rift, where rifting is in fact NOT server versus server but rather faction vs faction, which means wvw in its essence is more server vs server than rifting orginally is…

You didn’t read it correctly then. I said WVW IS SERVER VS SERVER.
First thing I said was, WVW IS NOT RIFTING, there is a difference because rifting isn’t a server vs server, thats you invading a server as the only player, and server vs server is wvw.

As for you only beign able to login at times rifting is enabled, WHAT ABOUT THEY PUT A OPTION IN YOUR MENU TO DISABLE RIFTING so you cannot be harmed by the rifter. or do harm to them.. So maybe it makes you immortal to rifters… Like i said, you can add ideas.

okay sorry about that part with server vs server i see waht you mean now, but was kidna bad word order, that could be understood both ways.

Still doesnt change my stance though, roaming around picking targets in wvw is gonna do the exact same thing as if you could do it in pve maps, except there ppl accept they can be ganked if the run alone by being there, if you play in PvE maps you do it to PvE ONLY

GummiBear.2756:

okay sorry about that part with server vs server i see waht you mean now, but was kidna bad word order, that could be understood both ways.

Still doesnt change my stance though, roaming around picking targets in wvw is gonna do the exact same thing as if you could do it in pve maps, except there ppl accept they can be ganked if the run alone by being there, if you play in PvE maps you do it to PvE ONLY

You play in PVE maps, you do it for PVE only? That’s not true, WVW is actually PVPVE with PVE in it and like someone said at the top they don’t wanna pve in world vs world which means get attacked by animals or have to bust down a door if you wanna consider that.

And AGAIN, I told you, you can add the option to DISABLE RIFTING WHICH MEANS THE RIFTER CANNOT HURT OR KILL YOU AND YOU CANNOT DO THE SAME TO THEM.

There have been other games that done rifting, not just rift… But Aion also and many more, I think the problem is GW 2 is more of a casual MMO game than anything.
Heck, they only just so recently added fast track in aion so you don’t have to get rifted on until your 55, but again I said WHAT IF YOU COULD USE A DISABLE BUTTON?

So in other words, you see the rifter, owell, they can’t hurt you but maybe your friends if they don’t want the disable rifting button on… YOU HAVE TO AT LEAST ADMIT, IT WOULD BE INTERESTING… Heck EVEN ADD QUESTS RIFTERS CAN DO AND QUESTS PLAYERS CAN DO FOR KILLING RIFTERS.

Rifting would make GW 2 a little more fun for me, and not just me but allot probably. You don’t have to agree but that’s fine with me, it’s just a suggestion, and IF THEY DO PUT IT IN THE GAME, well hopefully they make a disable rifting button for you.

I’m sorry but i’m failing to see any point in this idea at all.

So basically, you want people to raid a different server to randomly kill people that are runing around on their own questing. Now I see a lot of people moan “Remove PvE from WvW”, so how on earth would adding PvP into world PvE make PvP players anymore happy then they are with WvW? It wouldn’t, PvPers moan they don’t want the two mixed together, so making the two even more combined so that everywhere in the game besides SPvP is PvPvE. Rifiting is a much smaller, worse, idea of WvW the only difference is that it has it’s own seperate map.

Now let’s get onto why I expect this to not even make it into Anet’s discussions
1. Everything that Anet have done for this game has been to enchance playing together instead of players feel like they’re fighting eachother all the time. We have guesting, level scaling which would both have an impact on how rifting would work to the point where it would be useless.
2. You say to have a button to disable rifting, well anyone under lvl 80 would obviously use it as they are not going to want to get ganked by a bunch of 80’s while runing around doing their lvl 60 quests. This takes me onto your idea of lvl 80 maps only, I’m not being funny, but have you seen those maps recently? They’re pretty dead and the last thing Anet needs is to give players even more reason not to explore those areas. It’s bad enough with getting aggro on a mob every 5-10 steps in orr let alone wondering if there is a group of players waiting to gank you as soon as you enter combat. Again, if 75% of the people in orr turn rifitng off you’d have what? 5-10 players fighting eachother? That sounds so fun and important for this game… not. Then you have to consider overflows, how would they work (if you ever got into an overflow in orr I know I havn’t) how would rifting work on an overflow as it isn’t a home server.
3. Other games have rifting because other games have factions, if rifting is add it would be like people on Desolation moving to Underworld and it would become a match between those two servers. This can already happen in WvW where servers are matched against eachother.

I’m sorry, but rifting has no place in this game, we already have a much better idea which is WvW. Why waste so much time and resources to add a much smaller WvW into the game that will most likely never get used as the people that enjoy that kind of idea can easily go to WvW to do it.

ANet has very specifically put a wall between leveling PvE and their version of open-world PvP, WvW.

It’s a core design philosophy in which Rifting has no place.

It could be a very fun concept, but it doesn’t belong in GW2.

If PvP were meant to exist in the open world, the races of Tyria wouldn’t be allied and we’d have them split into enemy factions a la WoW.

All Rifting would do for me is introduce a period of two hours where I would essentially not want to be playing the game. When you say we’d have the option to “disable” rifting, I don’t think you’ve thought that through. Where are the rifters allowed to go? Can they enter cities? Can they fight and kill NPCs? Then they’re going to screw up my game.

Stupid PK Griefers please stay out of GW2..this is no game for you.
Thats absolutely everything I can think of this terrible idea.

Riselight.3695:

No.

• Regular PvE players are forced into PvP
• There is a server vs server system already, it’s callen WvW

You Sir are a Carebear and shouldn’t play MMO. Feelz sry for U!

Thapaintrain.9546:

Riselight.3695:

No.

• Regular PvE players are forced into PvP
• There is a server vs server system already, it’s callen WvW

You Sir are a Carebear and shouldn’t play MMO. Feelz sry for U!

you know it is called a MMO (Massive Multiplayer Online) not a MGO (Massive Gank Online)

GummiBear.2756:

Thapaintrain.9546:

Riselight.3695:

No.

• Regular PvE players are forced into PvP
• There is a server vs server system already, it’s callen WvW

You Sir are a Carebear and shouldn’t play MMO. Feelz sry for U!

you know it is called a MMO (Massive Multiplayer Online) not a MGO (Massive Gank Online)

Gummiebear = Carebear enough said!

Thapaintrain.9546:

Riselight.3695:

No.

• Regular PvE players are forced into PvP
• There is a server vs server system already, it’s callen WvW

You Sir are a Carebear and shouldn’t play MMO. Feelz sry for U!

Why shouldn’t he play MMO’s if he doesn’t want open world PvP?

Thapaintrain.9546:

GummiBear.2756:

Thapaintrain.9546:

Riselight.3695:

No.

• Regular PvE players are forced into PvP
• There is a server vs server system already, it’s callen WvW

You Sir are a Carebear and shouldn’t play MMO. Feelz sry for U!

you know it is called a MMO (Massive Multiplayer Online) not a MGO (Massive Gank Online)

Gummiebear = Carebear enough said!

Carebear? People still use that? Ha ha.. but, post is proof that T for Teen includes 13.

There are better games out for for that subset of "PvP’ player that wants to PK new players or jump on some unsuspecting Carebear. AoC is ftp now, go roll an assassin on the tutorial island .. and never leave.

Rifting is cool and all, but we already have WAY better PvP systems in place, all rifting would do is irritate PvE players.

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I know our not talking about that other game. But I would to see champions spawn out of nowhere. That change the landscape and sky around them.