TP and bots
Please no. I’ve seen enough of “treating the symptoms and not the disease” when it comes to bots. Some bots can solve captcha, while some genuine players can’t. Gold farmers and bot users could also just type it in manually when it’s needed. Lastly, why should genuine players have to go through this just for a very minimal protection against the bot problem?
The things that catch the bots are behind the scenes, visible things are just for show and usually a hindrance.
I have heard tell that bots are using the TP (tho I personally do not know the validity of this statement)
but if it is so and it is a large issue (at least as large as the person mentioning it to me made it sound to be) couldn’t it be solved by adding a captcha to the sell screen?
That was my post…
Not actually sure if they are using it or not. However I think it is very likely. I Have seen lots of bots farming different mobs, but to get the gold they have to sell it. Granted a lot of the drops can be vendored, but some of the crafting mats sell better on the TP.
The numbers I used were based on how many small venom sacs I got farming for 1 hour on my warrior (not using a botting program, as I do not support or do botting.) When I multiplied the number of sacs i got in 1 hour by 24 I realized a bot could easily farm over a 1,000 small venom sacs a day, especially if they had another bot supporting them (notice alot of bots farm in groups.) Now if you were a bot and you had 1,000+ small venom sacs would you sell them to a vendor for 5 copper, or on the TP for 50-60 copper (last I looked, may have went up or down in price)?
So just to be clear I fell strongly that bots do use the TP, although I have no way of proving it.
Please no. I’ve seen enough of “treating the symptoms and not the disease” when it comes to bots. Some bots can solve captcha, while some genuine players can’t. Gold farmers and bot users could also just type it in manually when it’s needed. Lastly, why should genuine players have to go through this just for a very minimal protection against the bot problem?
The things that catch the bots are behind the scenes, visible things are just for show and usually a hindrance.
How would you treat the disease then? I am sure ANET is closing hacked accounts and so fourth, but as long as there are accounts that can be hacked and people buy gold there will be bots.
So I say treat both.
How would I treat it? I wouldn’t be able to, I’m not an experienced game dev or programmer.
Just because I’m not the “how guy”, it doesn’t mean that I can’t say an idea isn’t the best course of action. While I can’t program a fancy system to shut down every bot and figure out who’s a player and who’s a gold farmer – I have played other games with the same problem and have seen how badly some approaches can affect it.
I say let the people behind the scenes work out their strategy and do their thing, as opposed to losing the ability to interact with other players and have restrictions on all of our actions. I’ve seen MMOs with once-vibrant communities pretty much turned into single player games where players have to jump through hoops to prove that they’re humans, then find that content is hurt because bots were using it.
I don’t claim to have all the answers, nor do I have a magical solution – but I do have a warning. When bots are concerned, treating the symptoms never ends well – since at the end of the day, the symptom is that the bots are playing the game and using the same content that we do.
How would I treat it? I wouldn’t be able to, I’m not an experienced game dev or programmer.
Just because I’m not the “how guy”, it doesn’t mean that I can’t say an idea isn’t the best course of action. While I can’t program a fancy system to shut down every bot and figure out who’s a player and who’s a gold farmer – I have played other games with the same problem and have seen how badly some approaches can affect it.
I say let the people behind the scenes work out their strategy and do their thing, as opposed to losing the ability to interact with other players and have restrictions on all of our actions. I’ve seen MMOs with once-vibrant communities pretty much turned into single player games where players have to jump through hoops to prove that they’re humans, then find that content is hurt because bots were using it.
I don’t claim to have all the answers, nor do I have a magical solution – but I do have a warning. When bots are concerned, treating the symptoms never ends well – since at the end of the day, the symptom is that the bots are playing the game and using the same content that we do.
That’s true…
However I guess it boils down to the lesser of two evils, risk ruining the game via economy vs. content.
I guess the last thing I have to say is DO NOT BUY GOLD FROM GOLD-SELLERS!!!!
If there are no costumers there is no business!
I guess the last thing I have to say is DO NOT BUY GOLD FROM GOLD-SELLERS!!!!
If there are no costumers there is no business!
Agreed, it all comes down to this at the end of the day. Having seen both content and the economy crumble on other MMOs, I just don’t want to see it happen again here.
We just have to hope that Anet take action on bot reports and that their detection software and perhaps even legal cases (if they decide to take that route) are enough to keep them one step ahead.
Simple BAN CHINA from the rest of the worlds Internet.
Most bots are actually prisoners in China forced by Guards to play games til they drop.
And then the money made from Goldselling goes to the Guards/Warden and up the chain.
There was a news article a while back.
Simple BAN CHINA from the rest of the worlds Internet.
Most bots are actually prisoners in China forced by Guards to play games til they drop.
And then the money made from Goldselling goes to the Guards/Warden and up the chain.There was a news article a while back.
Two words- Political. Nightmare.
Simple BAN CHINA from the rest of the worlds Internet.
Most bots are actually prisoners in China forced by Guards to play games til they drop.
And then the money made from Goldselling goes to the Guards/Warden and up the chain.There was a news article a while back.
I wouldn’t say most, but that is a source. Don’t forget regular sweat shops all over Asia.