Guild Wars 2

Yea, I have to vote against this whole suggestion in it’s entirety , one of the things that drew me to GW2 was that it DIDN’T have these things. There are plenty of korean MMO’s out there that include all the teenage boyish fantasies they could ever want but to add anything like that into this game would be to compromise what makes it what it is. So please don’t advocate for ANet to sell out to the lowest common denominator, enough MMO’s already do that we don’t need another.

Also no offense to the OP but this game seems to be about being tastefully sexy not “Lets kitten off daddy with a tramp stamp and belly button ring” sexy. So if you want that this game is not for you, plain and simple. So please go check out Tera, you can play a castanic where you will never wear more than a couple strips of clothing at any time.

Clark Skinner.4902:

If you want porno, watch a porno.

It’s a game and young people are playing. We don’t need women dressed up as prostitutes in-game. It’s not good for the kids to take in, and it’s kind of demented that it’s normal to have women dressed nearly naked in video games. Just because most players are male, doesn’t mean the game has to pander to their horniness.

Also, it is ridiculously unimmersive for all that skin showing to have the same defense as a fully covered plate. If they did make these half-naked designs, they should get hefty penalties on stats.

Thy’re not asking for porno thy’re asking for more revealing armors there’s a difference . However like i said before the more revealing stuff still needs to be on the realistic side .

urtv.8791:

Exumerr.3829:

urtv.8791:

that would only matter if every single enemy clubs you on the head

That really isn’t my point. If anything hits you, you’ll be moving slowly. If you get hit with a flame blast, you’ll start running slower. If you get hit with an arrow, even more so.

Do you have any logic at all?

logic?what logic makes you run slower even if you dont get hit then?what logic allows enemies to run at the same speed in and out of battle.just because you get hit doesnt mean you will run slower.if someone hits your pinky does that mean you will crawl away to safety

Have you played this game at all? The enemies run really slow. You can outrun them even in combat. It makes sense that if you get hit, you will run slower. I don’t understand how you can’t see how logical that is? And it’s not even as if you are crippled either lol

Adine.2184:

Clark Skinner.4902:

If you want porno, watch a porno.

It’s a game and young people are playing. We don’t need women dressed up as prostitutes in-game. It’s not good for the kids to take in, and it’s kind of demented that it’s normal to have women dressed nearly naked in video games. Just because most players are male, doesn’t mean the game has to pander to their horniness.

Also, it is ridiculously unimmersive for all that skin showing to have the same defense as a fully covered plate. If they did make these half-naked designs, they should get hefty penalties on stats.

Thy’re not asking for porno thy’re asking for more revealing armors there’s a difference . However like i said before the more revealing stuff still needs to be on the realistic side .

The more revealing stuff is unrealistic by it’s very nature, you know why? Because having big patches of bare skin is not practical in any semblance of a realistic situation. Think about it, sure armor can be snug and well fitting (and ArenaNet already has a ton of armor that fit that criteria) but having sets being unnecessarily sexy just for the sake of showing off is the very opposite of realistic, the idea of armor is to cover and protect your soft skin from I don’t know… all the stuff your character is diving headfirst into so generally speaking more is better. So please don’t even try to pull the “realistic” card in this case, it just doesn’t work.

Also CollegeHumor did a pretty good take on how redic this whole debate is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTGh0EMmMC8

Kana.6793:

The game doesn’t need to turn into a second Tera to sell more copies to teenage boys. Instead they can sell more copies to women, since the women can play an mmo where they don’t have to dress like a prostitute. Also a lot of families play mmo’s together nowadays.

As for those asking for more stripper armour, I really don’t understand how you people find graphics so attractive. It’s kinda weird tbh.

More attractive and bad-kitten looking sets would be good though, especially for medium armour. It’s perfectly possible to have an awesome looking character without promoting an attitude that’s degrading and disrespectful to women.

There are too many coats in the game.

2nd skimpy armor is not degrading and disrespectful to women. In Fact it is liberating to many women.

3rd the female form is a work of art and there is nothing wrong with Gods creation.

I want sexy man clothes. I demand cloth corsets and male strappy leather. -.-

@Kana.6793
Here’s a list of just the LIGHT ARMORS that show almost no skin. So that in the future you will know what you are talking about. Anet purposely added a wide array of armors ranging from skimpy to prudish. (Guess which ones are for you?)

http://www.ign.com/wikis/guild-wars-2/Heritage_%28Light%29
http://www.ign.com/wikis/guild-wars-2/Magician
http://www.ign.com/wikis/guild-wars-2/Country
http://www.ign.com/wikis/guild-wars-2/Student
http://www.ign.com/wikis/guild-wars-2/Acolyte%27s
http://www.ign.com/wikis/guild-wars-2/Devout
http://www.ign.com/wikis/guild-wars-2/Dry_Bones
http://www.ign.com/wikis/guild-wars-2/Cabalists
http://www.ign.com/wikis/guild-wars-2/Seers
http://www.ign.com/wikis/guild-wars-2/Rubric
http://www.ign.com/wikis/guild-wars-2/Ascalonian_%28Light%29
http://www.ign.com/wikis/guild-wars-2/Noble%27s_%28Light%29
http://www.ign.com/wikis/guild-wars-2/Dredge_%28Light%29
http://www.ign.com/wikis/guild-wars-2/Flame_Legion_%28Light%29
http://www.ign.com/wikis/guild-wars-2/Researcher%27s_%28Human%29

Bodycult.4516:

I would be more enjoyable to have some sexy outfits and armors for female character.

Some piercings (belly, tongue, …) also maybe a tatoo npc to put some lower back tatoo… anything to make the game more enjoyable…

Maybe some implants and fake tans as well?

I think GW2 has a decent enough range of attractive armor between skimpy (and I believe the males have some skimpy looking armor too) and protective. I’m all for more options, as long as there are options for both sides of the playerbase.

I think its a fine line defining wats sexy and whats overly revealing.
My elementalist is lvl80 and i absolutely love the order of whispers dress.

Its sexy revealing just her sexy legs but not overtly revealing like a prostitute.
Elegant and sexy

I don’t think the OP has seen the number of elementalists running around in this game quite yet. There’s plenty for eye candy.

Shoot, I’ve even seen some man-kitten armors for warriors.

Hey guys…. stop talking about how unrealist an armor can be…. im mostlly talking about ‘’ TOWN CLOTHES’‘. If you dont wanna wear sexy ’’town clothe’’JUST DONT WEAR IT , but stop kittening people that want to see them ingame -.- This concept is just called expression liberty.

Dont wanna see it … go other zone… dont wanna wear… dont wear. As simple as that. But for the one who want it, just let them to it…

Sorry. What?!?
Have you seen some of the Mesmer outfits. They look like they came out of the Victoria Secrets catalog. I’m very tempted to create a Female Norn Mesmer just put her in those outfits and role play as my main Male Human Ele’s wife.
Piercings might not work as they would be a bit too small to render, so you might not be able to see it in game.
Tattoos should be ok. But for guys, most of the time the armour covers everything up. For girls would be cool. Asura’s already have facial markings so I think implementing tattoos would not be much problem.

There’s plenty of male armor that shows skin and the tattoos do look good with them. If you roll a norn you’ll get tattoos and skimpy armor. Problem solved.

Well..tattooshop wouldn’t be bad…but for the rest,we have Tera for that….

Bodycult.4516:

Hey guys…. stop talking about how unrealist an armor can be…. im mostlly talking about ‘’ TOWN CLOTHES’‘. If you dont wanna wear sexy ’’town clothe’’JUST DONT WEAR IT , but stop kittening people that want to see them ingame -.- This concept is just called expression liberty.

Dont wanna see it … go other zone… dont wanna wear… dont wear. As simple as that. But for the one who want it, just let them to it…

Sorry but that’s not how it works, Development teams only have a certain amount of resources they can allocate to any given project and they have about a million ideas vying for those at any given time so you asking them to allocate development time to lower back tattoos and tongue studs (how would that even work in this game) means that other things that many of us would like to see don’t get worked on. So “JUST NOT WEARING” these town clothes doesn’t exactly pan out as we still lose out on things that many of us would like to see (new weapons, mobs, improvements to existing art assets ect) to allow for you to have these things.

Also since you posted your idea in a public forum you might want to be aware that you’re opening yourself up for feedback both good and bad so you ought to prepare for the fact that many (admittedly like myself) don’t care for your idea (I think it’s awful).

Finally I’m not really sure what “expression liberty” is but if you’re talking about the freedom of expression well as awesome of a right as that is it doesn’t extend into this game. This isn’t America or any other country, this is a virtual world created, owned and operated by ArenaNet and they can do whatever they like to anything inside it for any reason at all.

Generally that means that while it’s great to want specific things added to the game if ANet feels that those don’t mesh well with their artistic vision of the game or would be disruptive/poorly received they’re going to err on the side of the masses and avoid those things and there’s just not a thing you can do about that, it’s their call in the end after all.

I don’t see why people are against it. I have to say, when I started my norn guardian, the armors were a bit bleh and all looked the same. I agree with adding a couple more designs and I see no problem in adding some more revealing. And if you want realistic gameplay, don’t play a game with dragons and stuff? Never seen the link between that. Also, it’s not like by adding more revealing armors, the non revealing will disappear.

It’s like adding some content for the people who want it and even if you are against it, you won’t lose anything? So why stop them from wanting it.

@ Atticus

Take a look at what gladiators wore . They had very little armor . It doesent get more realistic than that . Additionally armor is typically form-fitting not loose like a trenchcoat where it can get in the way during combat . So again formfitting leather armor would be based in reality would it not ? Im perfectly fine with the armor the way it is honestly but i dont see why a few more skins couldent be added .

There is nothing sexy for male. :( unless you love that blaring chest hair *cough -Oh god why.

Onshidesigns.1069:

There are too many coats in the game.

2nd skimpy armor is not degrading and disrespectful to women. In Fact it is liberating to many women.

3rd the female form is a work of art and there is nothing wrong with Gods creation.

1. I know there are too many coats, thats why I said we could do with more attractive and bad-kitten looking sets especially for medium armour. That doesn’t mean there needs to be leather bikini’s. There’s a whole spectrum of clothing in between trenchcoats and bikini’s.

2. In fact it is offensive to many women. In the beta there were pages and pages of complaints mostly from women, about the caster starter armour since they objected to their character wearing a garter and flashing panty shots when she ran. There were also guys who said their girlfriend’s wouldn’t play it with them because they saw it and formed a bad first impression of the game.

There already is skimpy armour, we certainly don’t need more.

And you can’t with a straight face tell me that you think the majority of people wanting to wear skimpy armour aren’t young guys.

3. As for the third part, I’m not getting involved with religious conversations on a forum since it’s not relevant to the discussion.

This kind of creeps me out.

There are sexy sets by the way and I wish they weren’t there at all. But it’s obviously not going to die. This however is exactly why I don’t like it. Lololol let me roll a female character and essentially strip her naked so I can oogle her virtual attributes all the time.

Get some Winged set or something.

Onshidesigns.1069:

There are too many coats in the game.

2nd skimpy armor is not degrading and disrespectful to women. In Fact it is liberating to many women.

3rd the female form is a work of art and there is nothing wrong with Gods creation.

… more coats than boots? gloves?

2nd skimpy armor is only liberating for hussies. For self-respecting women, it’s insulting. For young girls, they are taught that they are meant to look sexual and that attractiveness is more important than sense. For boys, they are taught that girls aren’t equal and are valuable for arousal.

3rd oh man this is weak. Would you say that old, saggy creations of God are works of art and should be shown in game? How about fat works of art? No, no one’s asking for that, they’re only asking for things to turn them on while playing. And if you really care about displaying the human form, you’d advocate for full nudity. If you feel genitals are things that shouldn’t be shown, then you are advocating against sexualizing players.

4th Korean games make the women look like teenage girls. That’s not the direction we should be heading in. GW2 makes women look like adult women. It’s a more responsible and less perverted approach. The game doesn’t need to sell sex to succeed.

@Ebrech,

You do realize you can change the body style during character creation so that you don’t have chest hair, right?

And what’s wrong with chest hair, anyway?

Clark Skinner.4902:

Onshidesigns.1069:

There are too many coats in the game.

2nd skimpy armor is not degrading and disrespectful to women. In Fact it is liberating to many women.

3rd the female form is a work of art and there is nothing wrong with Gods creation.

… more coats than boots? gloves?

2nd skimpy armor is only liberating for hussies. For self-respecting women, it’s insulting. For young girls, they are taught that they are meant to look sexual and that attractiveness is more important than sense. For boys, they are taught that girls aren’t equal and are valuable for arousal.

3rd oh man this is weak. Would you say that old, saggy creations of God are works of art and should be shown in game? How about fat works of art? No, no one’s asking for that, they’re only asking for things to turn them on while playing. And if you really care about displaying the human form, you’d advocate for full nudity. If you feel genitals are things that shouldn’t be shown, then you are advocating against sexualizing players.

4th Korean games make the women look like teenage girls. That’s not the direction we should be heading in. GW2 makes women look like adult women. It’s a more responsible and less perverted approach. The game doesn’t need to sell sex to succeed.

“Would you say that old, saggy creations of God are works of art and should be shown in game?”
I wouldn’t mind having older people in games. But most people want to play as a young character.

“The game doesn’t need to sell sex to succeed.”
Showing some skin in games has nothing to do with sex!

“And if you really care about displaying the human form, you’d advocate for full nudity.”
I like full nudity in games. Example in Skyrim I have the nude mode for both male and female only so it looks more realistic when looting corpses.

“no one’s asking for that, they’re only asking for things to turn them on while playing.”
No they just want to look good. Players do not masterbate to games. That’s what google is for.

“skimpy armor is only liberating for hussies.”
Not every person who dresses skimpy is a hussie.

Adine.2184:

@ Atticus

Take a look at what gladiators wore . They had very little armor . It doesent get more realistic than that . Additionally armor is typically form-fitting not loose like a trenchcoat where it can get in the way during combat . So again formfitting leather armor would be based in reality would it not ? Im perfectly fine with the armor the way it is honestly but i dont see why a few more skins couldent be added .

I see your point and while I don’t think Gladiators were the best representation of “function over form” when it comes to armor (they had to play to the crowds) I see where you’re going and yea you’re right some more form fitting armor wouldn’t be a bad thing and I have zero probs with that, that makes perfect sense. But what the OP is specifically talking about is lower back tattoos, piercings and “revealing” town clothing and I considering the overall tone of this game I just don’t see how any of that really fits.

“The game doesn’t need to sell sex to succeed.”
Showing some skin in games has nothing to do with sex!
- Yea it kinda does, providing armor that has no real practical purpose for the sake of being “sexy” is meant to be appealing to men and there is one reason guys want to watch a woman run around in a platemail thong and and stockings and its not for a sociopolitical one.

“And if you really care about displaying the human form, you’d advocate for full nudity.”
I like full nudity in games. Example in Skyrim I have the nude mode for both male and female only so it looks more realistic when looting corpses.
- I have no problem with nudity either when it’s tasteful and reasonable but that’s not really what the OP is asking for is it?

“no one’s asking for that, they’re only asking for things to turn them on while playing.”
No they just want to look good. Players do not masterbate to games. That’s what google is for.
- See my previous comment and I think you’d be surprised what people do to games where every female armor amounts to fetishwear

“skimpy armor is only liberating for hussies.”
Not every person who dresses skimpy is a hussie.
- True but most are looking for attention and the last thing GW2 needs is a line of overly horny boys making their character dryhump everything in Lions Arch

I feel my request had been misunderstand guys… I just gave some idea of things I would like to see in the game. I dont asked for full nudity or 18+ games…

I asked to put some town clothe vendors in some city that may represent the city mentality. Sometimes sexier clothes, or and armors, for both men and woman. No need to be 18+ to be a bit sexier, just look at Xena and Conan movies: they both wear sexy things and thoses movies are not for adult.

As for piercings…. it would be nice if you wear a necklace accessory, that it appair on your character. Same with earings, rings, and why not belly piercing ?

I was hoping for some more armor like the tier 3 cult heavy armor for the norn female. I think that one is one of the best imo. Tier 2 heavy isn’t bad either. I’d love to see more like that. And of course there is the tier 3 female human light and medium.

I’d be wary of saying anything like this, as in my experience, it tends to rile up a lot of feminists and lead to a flamewar.

That said, it’s possible to create “sexy” looking medium armor but the choices are a bit limited. Here are a few pictures of my thief with a look you might like.

http://imageshack.us/a/img7/9090/gw22012102209225841.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img405/7360/gw22012102209223634.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img255/5924/gw22012102209220988.png

[I’d be wary of saying anything like this, as in my experience, it tends to rile up a lot of feminists and lead to a flamewar.

That said, it’s possible to create “sexy” looking medium armor but the choices are a bit limited. Here are a few pictures of my thief with a look you might like.

http://imageshack.us/a/img7/9090/gw22012102209225841.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img405/7360/gw22012102209223634.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img255/5924/gw22012102209220988.png ]

0.o The last one is great!!! We need some more like this. At what level you get something like this ? Also is there is some for Mesmer ?

The 3rd one is a rather expensive outfit. The top is T3 human cultural medium, bottom and shoes are Vigil/Order of Whispers. Gloves and shoulders are duelist. For all practical purposes, it is endgame.

Light armor probably has the most revealing options out of all.

http://imageshack.us/a/img191/1294/gw22012102210380431.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img687/4379/gw22012102210372124.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img547/7708/gw22012102210504558.png

Let’s not turn this game into second Tera online shall we? The only thing that needs addressing is more sexy male armor, especially cloth ones since there are none.

There are some revealing outfits for men (mostly light and heavy armor, not sure about medium). See them here: http://dulfy.net/2012/08/11/skimpy-armors-in-gw2a-list/#3

The overall design philosophy for armors in GW2 was to maintain a balance between realism and fantasy. I think they’ve done alright, but more options wouldn’t hurt.

I do remember seeing a cloth outfit in which a man was practically bare chested.

One thing about GW1 I liked is that it had a healthy mix of somewhat realistic and revealing armor, for both male and female characters. Before Insignias were introduced the +Energy armor of each profession was very revealing, e.g. a Necro was running around in pants/bikini and tattoos covering the whole body, a Warrior had somewhat similar to the typical barbarian/gladiator armor, and a female Ranger’s body was covered with leaves almost only at the naughty parts.

I don’t understand why they didn’t included some revealing armor for each armor type and gave them offensive stats like Rampage or Berserker; they could have used a similar “excuse” for revealing armor as they did in GW1: “Duh, they are all-out offensive, a character wearing this armor doesn’t care about their defensive so their vital organs are not protected by armor!”.
Also, as a leg lover GW2 has almost nothing to offer for me…
From what I’ve seen so far there’s ONE light armor which expose the legs of a female character and two or three more from the front or side, ZERO medium armors which expose the legs and two or three skintight ones. I haven’t extensively looked at heavy armor yet but the situations seems to be even worse for them.

Ebrech.3148:

There is nothing sexy for male. :( unless you love that blaring chest hair *cough -Oh god why.

Indeed, ugh. There are maybe 3-4 sexy male armors in game compared to dozens of female armors. I don’t call that a fair balance. And most of the outfits are norn-only and they’re nothing nice to look at either.

We need more male stuff!

Uhm….I will pass on all of the sexy armor, since none of my chars would ever wear one. How about more non-sexy armor/clothes? There are way fewer of those available.

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I don’t play female characters but I do play MMOs. Anet has done a better job of providing a variety of concealing and revealing outfits than any other developer I have ever seen and yet all you can do is complain? I’m not a GW2 fanboy but show some respect for what the art team has tried to do by leaving nobody out and providing such great variety.

You all sound like a bunch of spoiled children. I’d say that you should be ashamed of yourselves but this is the internet, where nobody has any shame.

Bodycult.4516:

Since almost most MMORPG on the market have some sexy outfits and armors for female characters, why this very nice game dont have ?

I would be more enjoyable to have some sexy outfits and armors for female character.

Some piercings (belly, tongue, …) also maybe a tatoo npc to put some lower back tatoo… anything to make the game more enjoyable…

A place where people can meet and just chill together would be kinda nice too when your tired of xping and questing… no ?

Umm… this game does have! Take a look at a random character I took screenshots of:

Also, Lion’s Arch and the forums are places people come to “chill”. My favorite outfits though are the ladylike outfits ^_^

Zonzai.2341:

I don’t play female characters but I do play MMOs. Anet has done a better job of providing a variety of concealing and revealing outfits than any other developer I have ever seen and yet all you can do is complain? I’m not a GW2 fanboy but show some respect for what the art team has tried to do by leaving nobody out and providing such great variety.

You all sound like a bunch of spoiled children. I’d say that you should be ashamed of yourselves but this is the internet, where nobody has any shame.

And shame on you for complaining about the right or desire of someone else to complain. Perhaps, when you complain about something and no one listens to you, your attitude will change.

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Bikini Armor is possible.

Male armor still looks awesome! You could dress up like a pirate or a ninja! :D

@robinsiebler.3801

When you become internet dictator, you can make the rules about what kind of armor Anet can or cannot make. Until then you will have to live in a modern society where we all have to compromise to give others what they want, so that we can have what we want too. That’s how social contracts work.

My complaint with you is that even though Anet has done more than any other MMO developer ever has to provide you with a wide variety of great looking, full-body concealing outfits, your complaint is that there are ANY sexy outfits at all. No matter what they do, somebody is going to kitten at them for it.

Female Charr are sexy <3

Haishao.6851:

and medium have trench coats

Ah, but what you don’t know is that those rangers and engineers are all naked under their trench coats – they’re perfect for flashing people!

Does that make it a bit sexier for you? :p

Berserker’s Duelist?

I think the smart move would be to have everything suggested, or just enough to keep the wider target audience. Personally I think the armor available already is plenty sexy, Having less clothing won’t always make something MORE sexy. I still prefer the logic of the more armor the more protection, but that doesn’t mean any less sexy than armor in other games.

+1

There is no reason why a player who wants to look sexy can not do so. The OP is not asking for nudity. They are simply asking for players to not all be forced to wear trench-coats. Medium and Heavy sets have basically one or 2 pieces that you see the vast majority of players running around in, because they clearly look best and are the most sexy.

Some people will never understand that just because someone likes to look good, does not make them a deviant. There is no nudity, nor is there any sexual situations whatsoever in this game. Asking for a player to be given the ability to wear a bikini top or a skimpy short skirt is not asking for too much. Even the light armor in this game has very little to offer in the way of skimpy clothes, most are much more conservative that a lot of women wear out to clubs theese days.

People need to get down with the idea that it is no longer 1952 and the world is not as black and white when it comes to skimpy clothes as it once was.

:)

— Kirsten

Kirsten Wilson.1762:

+1

There is no reason why a player who wants to look sexy can not do so. The OP is not asking for nudity. They are simply asking for players to not all be forced to wear trench-coats. Medium and Heavy sets have basically one or 2 pieces that you see the vast majority of players running around in, because they clearly look best and are the most sexy.

Some people will never understand that just because someone likes to look good, does not make them a deviant. There is no nudity, nor is there any sexual situations whatsoever in this game. Asking for a player to be given the ability to wear a bikini top or a skimpy short skirt is not asking for too much. Even the light armor in this game has very little to offer in the way of skimpy clothes, most are much more conservative that a lot of women wear out to clubs theese days.

People need to get down with the idea that it is no longer 1952 and the world is not as black and white when it comes to skimpy clothes as it once was.

:)

— Kirsten

I don’t think there was anything stated about people disagreeing with skimpy clothes.

When I say clothes, I mean real gear not town gear. There is no reason people should not be allowed to have short skirts and bikini tops for thier normal gear, and as it stands now the choices are very few and far inbetween for those types of gear, and almost non-existant for classes that are not light armor.

I like sexy armors too (always playing with a woman characters)… While light armors have plenty of sexy outfits, hard has fewer but very nicely done, medium armor has least of sexy armors, which surprises me really… I’d really like some new armors to be added. But that is not a thing to worry about perhaps, adding new armors is easy and sure way to keep the fire burning under the cauldron of players interest

So all we have to do is just wait.

everyone thinking there is no sexy armour here: just go to human cultural vendor, pick tier 3 then medium, have a female human, come here again telling there is no sexy armour :P

oh and those saying armour in this game is nice becaus it is realistic, make the same and tell me why an assasin needs such an armour xD well except to….seduce her target i guess?

and to the girls that want sexy male armour, i dont know exactly what you think is sexy but have you every seen like gladiator or pit fighter? dont they look sexy?

just my 5 cents =)

have a nice day everyone