Guild Wars 2

Much like before, here’s a thread to discuss the map. Keep it classy.

I’ll echo what I said in the last match thread. Good luck to everyone! I’m sitting this one out, pretty much. I hope Aspenwood and Blackgate have fun! I hope everyone does. Enjoy it. Be competitive but be courteous. To allies and enemies.

Of course, kill each other something fierce but keep a healthy competitive spirit. Again, good luck!

Brilliant. We really only got a week apart from Blackgate? That’s a bunch of horse kitties T_T.

Looking forward to getting stomped again. I’m probably sitting this rotation out as well, the last rotation against them was a pure joke.

I wish we could have another rotation like us vs SoS vs Mag, that was a kitten good one. Everyone held their own for most of it, there were times where SoS or FA (my server) would do a total take over, but the other servers always made a comeback. It was a lot of fun, and the best WvW rotation I’ve been a part of so far.

I do hope that this doesn’t turn out like our last encounter with Blackgate though. Hopefully they’ll make server transfers cost gems now, so everyone doesn’t flock over there.

This should be a good one. Really looking forward to seeing TC shine, win or lose.

Gonna be out of most of this one, working 12 hour shifts all week Good luck, TC. Wish I could help as we push up.

BG will win, too many transfers to that server already.

Bleah, FA is “red team” again. That’s a whole month now… I tire of it.

motku.2354:

Bleah, FA is “red team” again. That’s a whole month now… I tire of it.

I know, I was thinking the same thing when the match started.

It would be nice to be green again, it seems like red by far has the worst base setup and it doesn’t help that people instinctively attack north based off of the other maps either.

Cheers from Unlimited
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Score at the moment:

Props to the TC crew in the FA BL at server start. Great push, solid defense. Some serious competition out there. We had orb almost back, BG jumped us. Then BG almost had it back, and we jumped them. Love it.

Looking forward to a full week of things being competitive. I guess we’ll see how things look after the night crews get though.

TOAST! Keep it up. Best server around.

@kefro except you weren’t moving around and stood there for 5 minutes in the same spot. Nice try though. I guess we’ll know after they check out my report.

Someone from Fort Aspenwood needs to tell their little thief at Tarnished Coast BG Godslore camp to stop exploiting.

I just spent about 3 hours in the Fort Aspenwood Borderlands.

It had been back-and-forth all night with skirmishes and pitched battles everywhere. Early on the TC crew tried twice to grab the orb, and both times we were thwarted by the 10(?) + seige built at the orb by FA. While TC and FA butted heads up north, BG came out of the west and took FA’s garrison with seemingly very little resistance. At this point TC /team chat speculated that FA did not have a large presence and most of them were defending the orb up north.

TC then hit the south while BG made their own push for the orb. We took two towers from BG, but was unable to hold one of them.

At the point things stabilized a bit and TC primarily concentrated on holding our gains and waiting for a chance to strike…and strike we did. BG had made another push against the orb, and TC waited (honestly, half of the timing was luck) until that fight had almost petered out and shifted further west before mounting a strike against the orb when most of FA defenders were busy chasing the routed BG attackers. Although we lost half our number, we managed to grab the orb and brought it south east.

It was not to be however, as our weakened force was intercepted by what seemed to be the entire BG zerg. They managed to rest the orb, but were almost completely wiped out by TC reinforcements from the south. As payback TC struck again at the south, and while BG was distracted, another strike team too the BG controlled FA garrison without much resistance.

Instead of trying to take back the FA garrison, BG went for orb pushes as well. The first time they grabbed the orb TC repaid them for their earlier interception by managing one of our own – after what must have been a 10 minute 3-way fight at Arah, where BG had built several ballistas, the orb was reset. TC retreated to defend Cliffside, which was under seige, and was able to crush the attacking force (I was too busy throwing grenades, did not even look to see which server attacked) as they engaged the keep lord.

While TC and FA skirmished in the East, and TC and BG skirmished in the South, FA was able to take Longview from BG and built trebs in range of garrison. BG ignored Longview and made yet another grab for the orb. This time FA, perhaps unwittingly, blocked TC’s intercepting force with their own force between Longview and Garrison. As a result, BG successfully moved the orb to their keep.

Next came a series of epic defenses of Garrison from FA and Bluelake from BG. The western walls of Garrison were lost as FA had two trebs pounding it none stop, but we defended it anyway – and managed to cut the attacking FA in half no less than four times by rebuilding the wall just as some of them made it inside. There was must carnage…and all rejoiced.

In the south TC and BG traded control of the southern supply depot and the ruins north of it for what must have been 40+ minutes. We tried to flank each other as the bridge separating our positions became a deathtrap. Sometimes our flanking forces would meet and open up a second front…and other times they would completely miss each other, wipe out the static defenses, and find ourselves separated by the same bridge…except we had switched sides! At some point during this battle royal between BG and TC, FA was able to take back Garrison.

After the supply depot changed hands for what must have been the 8th time I decided it was time to sleep. Currently the score is neck and neck between BG and TC, with BG having a lead of less than 150 points, and FA about 1,000 behind TC. However, BG does hold all 3 orbs.

We certainly got off to a promising start this week! Tomorrow we’ll probably see the effects of TC’s lack of a night crew, but as far as prime time goes the match is very evenly matched!

Looking forward to more fun tomorrow night~

Guilds started roling at BG:

Kinda hope Blackgate wins by a massive stretch so we (Fort A) won’t have to face them for a long time.

This match up pretty much sums up what is wrong with WvW atm. BG are basically the new HOD, they have over hour WvW ques and they are matched up against a server that I got straight into TC borderlands about 20 minutes after the start and took 5 minutes to get into home borderlands a bit later. Rankings mean nothing with transfers so frequent.

The other issue is the fact that it is 3 teams. It is well talked about the whole " why dont the weaker servers gang up"…. because it is not that simple. At the start of a match the first thing you want to do is get points on the board, so the first thing you do is go after the easy targets. Logically if you want a good match TC and FA would gang up against BG, but when you work with big groups of people logic rarely works. This results in exactly what happened today, FA lose towers and camps to TC and BG early on pretty much every map, the server that has come from the lower ranks gets targeted and players quickly disappear.

Luckily we held stonemist for a little bit today, it helped keep us near 200 points for a while and probably stopped players giving up after just a couple of hours

edit: I just logged in to see what was going on. The only que we have is for EB and it is the only map we have held our ground, we are outmanned on all the other maps…. its 10:30 pm server time (PST)

Odd since I waited in queue for almost two hours on TC, and finally got into FA BL at 2130 server.

Score at the moment:

Sevati.6724:

I am curious how Blackgate is hacks golanta so that it bugs and no one else can cap it.

We had a large zerg there and for 20 minutes somehow we couldn’t cap it. No one was to be seen as far as a Blackgate member was concerned for a good couple of minutes. plenty of time to cap it.

I am also curious how they got a Treb on top of the keep, without using the flying exploit.

I was part of the assault on the bay in Blackgate borderlands; we were sputtering out in the inner keep. Torn apart by superior arrow carts.

Then I crashed; weird bug leaving bg by front gate. But I hope the assault succeeded eventually.

Blackgate, the new HoD.

It’s something of a double edged sword. If rampant, it taints their win. And reflect poorly on their realm, even if not all likely condone it. Then again, I’m not around for all this so I will not speculate too much beyond what people are saying.

As a Guardian over-extended into an invisible BG army he said “Tell my mother…I never loved her” and died.

Reason #732 I’m happy to call TOAST home.

Floxxx here… Man, we almost had that orb and keep in the BG borderlands… So close. We have some great fighters. But I’ve crashed 5 times today so I’m calling it quits. Look forward to the fights tomorrow.

EB has been a bear of a fight. The Transcendent Veneration guild tried to hold off FA for the start of the map while the rest of the team hit BG. It was going pretty well, we had Klovan and Jerrifer’s for a little while. Then FA stole SM and things went crazy. I’ve no idea the how or why but we ended up pushing back up again. Maybe it’s the whole north thing someone mentioned previously. That went on for a while, and our team hit Veloka? And at the same time TV stole their way into SM, someone had trebbed the walls down. Now SM has changed hands to all 3 teams within the first 4 hours? Now it’s currently back in BG hands, you guys are rocking the map I gotta say. Can’t believe you’re keeping us both pressed in EB at the same time. Been a great match so far.

Good luck Tyria!

Outstanding first night to all 3 servers. Mo Bedda from MF here. We fought all evening on BG borderlands and had some epic fights with both servers. Look forward to an entire week of this kind of savage fighting. TC, keep up the great work!

TC and FA are facing the remains of HoD and a tier-higher BG. That makes for a difficult game for us. For what its worth, don’t think that trouncing TC for one night will make us give up. On the contrary, you better bring your game all week long until the very last minute. We don’t care about the score, we just want to kick your kitten

It’s not really a difficult game tbh, during our primetime hours all three servers were pretty much equal, but /team no-life vs doors/ is apparently the one deciding this matchup, enjoy your boring fights this week, I will enjoy the actual fights that will no doubt happen xD

so Good Luck to FA for the fight to stay in the third Tier, I would wish GL to BG aswell, but you guys obviously do not need luck, well actualyl I should wish you guys luck, I wouldn’t want you to break your paws at a gate

<3 u all

Guilds are moving around so they can continually stomp lower tiered opponents.

Most of the very best WvW’ers I encounter on TC agree: running with a zerg is painfully boring as it requires virtually no brain activity. We prefer more skirmish oriented gameplay — you know, the kind of battles you have to think to win. Conversely, if zerging is the only way players know how to take objectives and win battles, then those players will gravitate towards said style.

Thankfully, there are pockets of players on all three of these servers who feel the same. Until that dries up, you know where to me. /salute

Match update (night time still with queue):

Some nice attack at garrisson full upgraded in E Bg.
Lots of Golems upgraded door down in 10s
BlackGate has unlimited ressources cause we have Bruce Wayne :P

In the FA Borderlands last night the theme of the night was madly rushing to repel attackers. I can’t count the number of times we’d have people frantically call out that the gates to a tower/whatever were at 20%, rush like madmen to get numbers there only to find the gate down and the enemy on the Lord, and then wipe them just in a nick of time. Just in time for another call out.

Was fun while I was there. I see things may not have been as fun over the late night period though!

YARR BEASTGATE!

Nice! I’m in those golem pictures.

Well looks like Blackgate has the larger night crew/larger server population, so I would suggest TC and FA work together during the day to counter their night advantage until they are back to a more reasonable score.

A few groups in EB on our end have been half-heartedly trying to give FA opportunities to get back on their feet, but looks like they’re struggling far more than what we are atm.

I was looking forward to versing FA this week, but green’s numbers are all but overwhelming. Sadly, I think we’ll be spending the majority of this week trying to retain/defend as much of our territory from green.

Judging from what I read elsewhere, several big Henge of Denravi guilds transferred over to Blackgate, meaning we’re also going to have to deal with top-tier fighters. Let’s fight hard, and do what we can to show that we won’t go down fighting, not even against the remnants of the Henge.

Its simple really. If BG has a higher night time population because of bandwagoners recurit some Pacific/Oceanic guilds for the next match up and, as a server, do something to keep them around (tribute payments perhaps?). In the meantime, someone from one of the bigger guilds/alliances needs to contact another bigger guild/alliance from TC/FA to work together and stop their assault on during non-prime time. A group of 50 people could do that. If its possible for the combined effort to cap various points on the map, you then enter a non-aggression agreement which states that each server will hold territory that is equal in points.

Having fun thus far, I want to be top level on my thief but I can’t. I really should level outside of WvW

Xpiher, not really working out so far. BG was just assulting QL, Brav and VK. They’re fielding more than both teams combined at 10 AM Pacific. They’ve got the coverage that neither server has. We (TC) has been taking towers and camps and leaving them open for FA to walk in and try to get a foothold and they’re just not able to do it. We’ve seen probably 10 total FA in EB this morning and BG zergs of 30-50 … when we’ve seen them (invis is still here, yay!).

TC isn’t going anywhere. We’ll perform at the same level we always do, no matter what. But it’s going to be a long week. Might as well just settle in and stock up on the jelly.

Congratulations to the Tarnished Coast guys who were in the Obsidian Sanctum last night that had three legendary weapons. Two had Twilight and one had Sunrise, but I could only take a decent screenshot of the guy with Sunrise.

Vanity.2506:

Xpiher, not really working out so far. BG was just assulting QL, Brav and VK. They’re fielding more than both teams combined at 10 AM Pacific. They’ve got the coverage that neither server has. We (TC) has been taking towers and camps and leaving them open for FA to walk in and try to get a foothold and they’re just not able to do it. We’ve seen probably 10 total FA in EB this morning and BG zergs of 30-50 … when we’ve seen them (invis is still here, yay!).

TC isn’t going anywhere. We’ll perform at the same level we always do, no matter what. But it’s going to be a long week. Might as well just settle in and stock up on the jelly.

Yea it’s starting to get boring because were always outnumbered. I love me some RP, but I’m considering a move to one of the top WvW realms so that I can have free/easy wins with maxed out server populations.

Twinbros.5372:

Vanity.2506:

Xpiher, not really working out so far. BG was just assulting QL, Brav and VK. They’re fielding more than both teams combined at 10 AM Pacific. They’ve got the coverage that neither server has. We (TC) has been taking towers and camps and leaving them open for FA to walk in and try to get a foothold and they’re just not able to do it. We’ve seen probably 10 total FA in EB this morning and BG zergs of 30-50 … when we’ve seen them (invis is still here, yay!).

TC isn’t going anywhere. We’ll perform at the same level we always do, no matter what. But it’s going to be a long week. Might as well just settle in and stock up on the jelly.

Yea it’s starting to get boring because were always outnumbered. I love me some RP, but I’m considering a move to one of the top WvW realms so that I can have free/easy wins with maxed out server populations.

If you can ever get in past the two hour queues.

Chessrook.8643:

Twinbros.5372:

Vanity.2506:

Xpiher, not really working out so far. BG was just assulting QL, Brav and VK. They’re fielding more than both teams combined at 10 AM Pacific. They’ve got the coverage that neither server has. We (TC) has been taking towers and camps and leaving them open for FA to walk in and try to get a foothold and they’re just not able to do it. We’ve seen probably 10 total FA in EB this morning and BG zergs of 30-50 … when we’ve seen them (invis is still here, yay!).

TC isn’t going anywhere. We’ll perform at the same level we always do, no matter what. But it’s going to be a long week. Might as well just settle in and stock up on the jelly.

Yea it’s starting to get boring because were always outnumbered. I love me some RP, but I’m considering a move to one of the top WvW realms so that I can have free/easy wins with maxed out server populations.

If you can ever get in past the two hour queues.

Better to wait 2 hours to get into a wining WvW that has equal player ratio then insta Q into another that has you 1v10. The only thing keeping me on TC is the possibility of good RP, haven’t found a guild yet though that meets the RP im lookin for. Giving it a few more weeks but if a good RP group can’t be found then off to Jade Quarry I go

This matchup would be a lot better without Blackgate. They need to hurry up and win already so they can move up a tier and we can start having even matches.

Good luck to Tarnished Coast!

Twinbros.5372:

Vanity.2506:

Xpiher, not really working out so far. BG was just assulting QL, Brav and VK. They’re fielding more than both teams combined at 10 AM Pacific. They’ve got the coverage that neither server has. We (TC) has been taking towers and camps and leaving them open for FA to walk in and try to get a foothold and they’re just not able to do it. We’ve seen probably 10 total FA in EB this morning and BG zergs of 30-50 … when we’ve seen them (invis is still here, yay!).

TC isn’t going anywhere. We’ll perform at the same level we always do, no matter what. But it’s going to be a long week. Might as well just settle in and stock up on the jelly.

Yea it’s starting to get boring because were always outnumbered. I love me some RP, but I’m considering a move to one of the top WvW realms so that I can have free/easy wins with maxed out server populations.

If you think we (BG) are having free and easy wins then you are sadly mistaken. Also, you are pretty much insulting all the efforts of the people on your server. If the reason you do WvW for is simply to win, then you should probably transfer to the #1 server to begin with. TC and FA has been putting up fights and making us work to keep what we have, in fact TC just managed to get a foothold on their own map and take their garrison back from us. I really hope people like you that simply want to win don’t queue in TC so then maybe those that are dedicated will come and fight us.

Tarnished Coast won’t give up. We never have in any of the previous matchups, and we look at each week as an opportunity to learn more and improve. Already this week we have learned a lot about how higher ranking servers respond and move around. Looking forward to the rest of the week actually regardless of the score.

If it’s true that HoD guilds moved to Blackgate, that’s a little disappointing being that their ‘goodbye’ post suggested they were going to move to other servers to make them more balanced. I would have thought they were going to take on the challenge of a bottom tier server to push them up the ranks.

Regardless, if they are on Blackrock, I look forward to learning some of their tactics and putting them to use in the future. It’s been great fights so far.