Guild Wars 2

Good luck to everyone in this weeks matchup, have fun and keep it clean!

Woke up today to see Yak’s Bend at +670.

it’s gonna be a long week…

Looks like it’s already over.

Unfortunately it will be :/ oh well, best GoM can do is hopefully come in second.

It’s a Saturday though fellas, don’t lose hope!

we’ve beaten them before and we’ll do it again…when the point difference isn’t already 31k .

score update, take a peek.

Anyway we can get Arena net to reset the maps so we can start this over…
FYI – word has gone out to all commanders that we are in contact with – we are doing our best to prevent spawn camping.

Folk’s need to learn to stop playing for the scoreboard. It makes sense in a close match, but when you face a zerg server with night time population imbalance, you really have to shift gears and just play for the fights. Every fight/battle is as fun as it would be regardless of what the score is on the scoreboard, so just ignore it.

Granted you need to change your tactics and be more prepared when facing a sea of zerglets, but consider it a lesson in being organized.

Also I find the whole idea of playing for second place to be, well idiotic. I would rather come in last place, but had a great time all week double teaming a zerg server, then come in second place.

I doubt it will be reset and don’t think it will matter. YB is stacked right now.

Lord Moose.8234:

I doubt it will be reset and don’t think it will matter. YB is stacked right now.

Its not that we are stacked, its that Yaks dropped down a tier…

Niim.9260:

Folk’s need to learn to stop playing for the scoreboard. It makes sense in a close match, but when you face a zerg server with night time population imbalance, you really have to shift gears and just play for the fights. Every fight/battle is as fun as it would be regardless of what the score is on the scoreboard, so just ignore it.

Granted you need to change your tactics and be more prepared when facing a sea of zerglets, but consider it a lesson in being organized.

Also I find the whole idea of playing for second place to be, well idiotic. I would rather come in last place, but had a great time all week double teaming a zerg server, then come in second place.

Fighting while extremely undermanned against foes with 3 orbs doesn’t make for fun fights. A change in tactics makes little difference in that instance. And I image the patience people have for such runs thin quickly.

Additionally, double teaming a “zerg server” sounds great, but that’s just not how the mass psychology works in practice.

It seemed like most of last night was even, at least on GoM borderlands. Me and a friend went into EB jumping puzzle before logging off and there were at least 10 from Sf and GoM camping different parts of it, Sf probably had a few more closer to 20 in there.

Well, I know my server and people there, so I really doubt GoM can make comeback after this. Almost all our commanders just ran like little girls during last week. So, a glorious day of second tier from the bottom is coming. Sigh…

Subtle.4596:

Its not that we are stacked, its that Yaks dropped down a tier…

Yes…we shouldn’t have dropped a tier. This is another by-product of the free transfers.

Speak up Arenanet…your rankings are messed up badly and they are weighed down by several weeks of worthless data.

What does dropping down a tier have to do with zerging? I’m a little confused about all this tier business…

PoiSonPeZ.4286:

Subtle.4596:

Its not that we are stacked, its that Yaks dropped down a tier…

Yes…we shouldn’t have dropped a tier. This is another by-product of the free transfers.

Speak up Arenanet…your rankings are messed up badly and they are weighed down by several weeks of worthless data.

This is the response I got from Gaile on a ticket:

“I just talked with Mike Ferguson about the questions and concerns that you expressed in this ticket. He said that the dev team is aware that some players are rather worried about changing worlds and how those changes can have a significant negative impact on the overall game experience. The good news is that, from observation, even widespread “desertions” of a world do, over time, end up getting balanced out as the world improves, as others decline, and so forth.

But just so you are aware, the concern about wide-scale world changes was one of the reasons that the 24-hour “timer” was placed on players’ ability to join a new world, and other, more subtle factors also discourage (or at least do not reward) frequent world changes.

The team is working on some major elements of the WvWvW format that will address nearly every current player issue. We don’t have a timeframe for when these changes will roll out, but their development and testing holds a high priority on the “to-do” list.

I guess as a player I want to say “Hang in there” for a while, because I do know that things will get better!"

I asked that they’d make a sticky in the forums to address this since it comes up so much, but I haven’t seen anything yet.

This is really unfortunate. Just goes to show how free server transfers don’t just ruin one week of WvW, but subsequent weeks by putting servers in brackets they really shouldn’t be in. I’m hoping you guys can get some sort of a foothold so we can have some fighting. Otherwise this is just another unplayable week thanks to guilds server hopping and Anet mysteriously allowing it.

Wonder if we can get in contact with some of the commanders from GOM and SF later today and have a quick sit down to see if we cant do something to improve the game play this weekend.

Good fighting last night all.

By the battles we fought after reset into the early hours i wouldn’t have expected to wake and find us in this situation today.

In any case, good show.

Can’t even get a tower at our own borderlands. Oh well, guess I’m transferring too, since all who I knowed already did that.

To GoM: use this to as your guide where WvW actually is. I’m going to Maguuma.

To Yak’s: have fun with killing skritts.

In my personal opinion winning by route is as boring as losing by route. We had a close match with SoR and NSP and the whole week was fun. This looks to be another week of sPvP for me.

Looks like its going to be a boring week for everyone. I know most of my surver (SF) will not come out in number with that much to make up for so there no way any thing big going to happen at the same time there going to be no one for Yaks Bend to compete with so i am not sure what they will do as for GOM i am not sure. Over all if SF plays its only to be farmed by the other 2 teams and that is just too much to deal with its degrading ppl into the same level of mobs. This should be one of the worst mach up yet FOR EVERYONE.

I was really looking forward to a fresh matchup this week and then this happens. “Nightcapping” has changed from losing a few supply camps and towers overnight to waking up and the whole map being one color. Free server transfers, orb effects, and a lack of diminishing returns on overextended enemies will kill WvW. I’m pretty sure that GoM & SF are going to stay where they are this week as things are now, but hey, have fun killing dolyaks from the one camp that gets uncapped, YB.

It wasn’t even night capping tbh. Yak’s had all of the borderlands before midnight pacific time.

Grats Yaks for pulling out after last week.

Biohazard.4196:

Niim.9260:

Folk’s need to learn to stop playing for the scoreboard. It makes sense in a close match, but when you face a zerg server with night time population imbalance, you really have to shift gears and just play for the fights. Every fight/battle is as fun as it would be regardless of what the score is on the scoreboard, so just ignore it.

Granted you need to change your tactics and be more prepared when facing a sea of zerglets, but consider it a lesson in being organized.

Also I find the whole idea of playing for second place to be, well idiotic. I would rather come in last place, but had a great time all week double teaming a zerg server, then come in second place.

Fighting while extremely undermanned against foes with 3 orbs doesn’t make for fun fights. A change in tactics makes little difference in that instance. And I image the patience people have for such runs thin quickly.

Additionally, double teaming a “zerg server” sounds great, but that’s just not how the mass psychology works in practice.

Well if you want to smash faces with a larger zerg with three orbs, you are bound to be disappointed. There are other tactics however, other ways to play, but you just sit in your base and QQ about the zerg if you like, I prefer to find a way to have fun.

Double teaming doesnt work, because people put no effort into making it work, all giving some weak excuse as to why it wont work. Once again, enjoy going for second place.

All the SF players are around the same timezone (north and south America).
So all it takes to demolish us is a world with decent night population…
Really annoying.

Nut.4713:

It wasn’t even night capping tbh. Yak’s had all of the borderlands before midnight pacific time.

it was about midnight to 1 am central so i guess it was night capping for some.. i dunno.

in any case.. we didn’t ask for Jade Quarry to flood into the tier above this one and bump us down to the sixth bracket when we were consistently doing great in the fifth. 100% map control is bad for everyone.

I just hope we can convince our guys to pull off the spawn camping a bit so maybe people won’t login and just leave instantly when they see the ballistas at their spawn. I know SF and GOM can fight us well when the populations are more evened out.

Oh no it’s okay, keep spawn camping with seige. Our fair weather credit card commanders have left for another server. I think I’m going to take a break from WvW until the devs shut down free transfers.

while we understand the frustration of losing to us previously, Yak’s Bend. spawn camping us Gom players not only shows a lack of honor, but also shows fear. some of your players are obviously afraid of what we can do. we get it, you’ve won. now make sure it remains a dignified victory.

As a Yak’s Bend player, I don’t want to see any fellow Yaks gloating or chest bumping about what’s going on. Let’s keep this classy (that means no spawn camping either guys. Seriously).

Copypasted from guru:

(TL;DR Pile on Yaks borderland, never go anywhere else unless a queue. Don’t bother with score)

So we were fighting well for hours when every map had a queue. Then after a few hours one map lost its queue for us SFers and splatted, then another. Then night rolled and the map looks like this:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/502/gw091k.jpg

Map dead in 24 hours.

So Arenanet can’t figure out how to make WvW fun for us, but we can. For the sake of everyone wanting a good and balanced match, every GoM and SF player, let’s move to exactly one borderland so we can have this match have a good competitive feel to it.

All players should move to yaks borderland, and stay there for the rest of the match (if it has a queue, I guess you can do camp runs on SF borderland, its all yaks anyways so I doubt anyone cares). It’s clear nigthcapping will reset the match each night so let’s not worry about score, let’s just try and have a fun time on one map.

Edit: @ lightsbane:

Only zergers spawn camp i.e. people who don’t read the forums :P You’re talkin to yourself hehe.

Getting my lowbie alts map completion doesn’t = fun for me Although there were some VERY good fights last night (I was VERY mad when we decided to defend an unupgraded SM over a fully stocked and upgraded WC – but you guys hit it at the right time!)

Looking at the numbers I saw last night – it seems both opposing teams have fair numbers – however we were consistantly able to respond with even more when needed. We are (obviously)in the wrong bracket.

As for the spawn campers…come on…grow up. This game is supposed to be fun! Please remember that. As for those being camped – do what we did a couple of times last week. When you DO have Gods, setup all the trebs you can on the mountain over the east exit. 10 trebs hitting anyone will make a mess of their zerg (I know, we once held 30+ off with 12 people – and 8 trebs)

*Edited to add that it’s funny that we are being accused of having a strong night presence – When we fought Maguuma – that was the time when the night presence was least obvious

Again – the Commanders are doing their best to STOP the spawn camping.

insaneshadow.1654:

As a Yak’s Bend player, I don’t want to see any fellow Yaks gloating or chest bumping about what’s going on. Let’s keep this classy (that means no spawn camping either guys. Seriously).

i don’t recall saying anyone was gloating.

Lord Moose.8234:

“I just talked with Mike Ferguson about the questions and concerns that you expressed in this ticket. He said that the dev team is aware that some players are rather worried about changing worlds and how those changes can have a significant negative impact on the overall game experience. The good news is that, from observation, even widespread “desertions” of a world do, over time, end up getting balanced out as the world improves, as others decline, and so forth.

I’ve got no doubt that this would happen but it will happen over a longer period which is problematic. They really really need to take account of population shifts in the scoring.

@Lightsbane What? No no no, not anyone in here. I was saying that before anyone thought about gloating or anything.

insaneshadow.1654:

@Lightsbane What? No no no, not anyone in here. I was saying that before anyone thought about gloating or anything.

comment withdrawn then. i guess in the end all we GOMs have left is our dignity. i’m sorry to whoever obtained our orb hackers.

Well I want to get my Gift of Battle sometime soon, and stuff like this sure ain’t helping.

morrolan.9608:

Lord Moose.8234:

“I just talked with Mike Ferguson about the questions and concerns that you expressed in this ticket. He said that the dev team is aware that some players are rather worried about changing worlds and how those changes can have a significant negative impact on the overall game experience. The good news is that, from observation, even widespread “desertions” of a world do, over time, end up getting balanced out as the world improves, as others decline, and so forth.

I’ve got no doubt that this would happen but it will happen over a longer period which is problematic. They really really need to take account of population shifts in the scoring.

I think it’s gonna have some impact on ranking, but I really don’t buy the idea that it will actually get balanced. It seems like a completely unknown factor that can never be properly accounted for.

was a great 3 way battle on all fronts last night. GoM ,vs Yak’s vs SF. But as usual Yak’s just night capped the entire map very late and now its a blowout. It has nothing at all to do with tactics… nothing to do with skill, nothing (dare I say to do with server transfers..yet) It’s a joke really. Would have been such a good matchup. Now let the fairweather crotch stains all flock to Yak’s and create another 300k + win.

Cyas next week!

Lord Moose.8234:

morrolan.9608:

Lord Moose.8234:

“I just talked with Mike Ferguson about the questions and concerns that you expressed in this ticket. He said that the dev team is aware that some players are rather worried about changing worlds and how those changes can have a significant negative impact on the overall game experience. The good news is that, from observation, even widespread “desertions” of a world do, over time, end up getting balanced out as the world improves, as others decline, and so forth.

I’ve got no doubt that this would happen but it will happen over a longer period which is problematic. They really really need to take account of population shifts in the scoring.

I think it’s gonna have some impact on ranking, but I really don’t buy the idea that it will actually get balanced. It seems like a completely unknown factor that can never be properly accounted for.

What i think may ended up happening is that you will have the top 3 worlds playing vs each other over and over and you will have the bottom 6 worlds for the most part playing each other over and over. There just simply not enofe servers for a rank system. Now if we where up vs the EU ones at the same time bring down that wall they build in i think things would work out for the best.
It was hell when SF won its first week only to have it thrown in our faces that we had to re-fight the same 2 worlds we lost badly on week 2 due to the annoying of fighting the same ppl and some team up.

I would like GoM to be matched up against other servers that don’t have a night crew, like us. When’s that gonna happen…

Well, as a sorrow’s furnace dedicated employee I am not gonna server hop just cuz the odds are stacked against me. I enjoy being the underdog, And I like alot of the people here. However, when i login to eternal battlegrounds map and there’s a zerg of yak’s bend people there spawn camping us right outside our main gate I’m not even gonna give the enemy the pleasure of 1 single kill. Enjoy playing w/ yourselves yak bend I am going to encourage every wvw player i know to spvp or pve until next week when hopefully the odds are better balanced. You will have a nice empty map to farm mats and your map completion status. I rented Dishonored for another week, and i’ll be back next weekend!! Happy gaming to all…remember when you fart to say “Ew, high levels of toxicity”

Axxeman of Sorrow’s Furnace.

As I said in game, this ppl dont read and has never played age of empires -.-
And why fight? I dont like fight, i like win. Right?
(Sarcasm off)
Caliga is a great example of a good strategist and fighter. Ppl need learn from him/he (idk how do u say that ><)

yaks did the same thing last week…i guess they didnt expect SoR to get over it

Eviator.9746:

I would like GoM to be matched up against other servers that don’t have a night crew, like us. When’s that gonna happen…

Dear god, all I want is this. We were doing fine prime time. Crap, there was a solid hour and a half where we were actually gaining 30+ more points than yaks or sorrows. Now this?

You give DR for loot Arenanet, why not DR for capture point returns?

Gate of Madness and Sorrow’s Furnace, transfer to another server (for this week) where WvW is actually fan. I had a blast fighting for Maguuma.
Let Yak’s farm some mats in peace and quiet.

I must say at this point in the game i see Yaks Bend as a non human team they are more like never-ending re spawning mobs that will always be in the map for the week only Gate of Maddness is a team that is to be beaten. What Yaks Bend is doing is a true zerg “an never ending wave of guys” for point a larges group of ppl more like a blob not a zerg.