Guild Wars 2

And that alone costs 600g, I probably should forget about ascended armor and just make myself a legendary.

I’m a wvw-er, I mostly solo roam and never train.
Yet I stockpiled 15k silk scraps before ascended armor was released, at 8c each.
Where’s your God now?

hihey.1075:

I’m a wvw-er, I mostly solo roam and never train.
Yet I stockpiled 15k silk scraps before ascended armor was released, at 8c each.
Where’s your God now?

I stockpiled 15k of Quartz Shards before it tanked to kitten. Gods of Tyria are awful.

Better recheck your math, UHD

1scrap currently goes for 1.8silver x 10,0000 = 180gold.

Kagamiku.9731:

Better recheck your math, UHD

1scrap currently goes for 1.8silver x 10,0000 = 180gold.

Yeah, but 180/3 is 60 and 60×10 is 600. Also I hate Anet. Also WvWers are poor. Also gear treadmill. Also Anet doesn’t care about us.

Keiel.7489:

Kagamiku.9731:

Better recheck your math, UHD

1scrap currently goes for 1.8silver x 10,0000 = 180gold.

Yeah, but 180/3 is 60 and 60×10 is 600. Also I hate Anet. Also WvWers are poor. Also gear treadmill. Also Anet doesn’t care about us.

Yeah 180/4 is 45 and 45×201 is over 9,000. Oh my god!

UHD.2634:

And that alone costs 600g, I probably should forget about ascended armor and just make myself a legendary.

the armor is near pointless to get right now, the cost to acquire the mats should come down drastically in a few months.

Why do you have to buy the scraps? Salvage your loot for goodness sake. I’ve got 2 sets of ascended armor already and I don’t exactly have a ton of cash… You get everything you need by salvaging.

Just wait for the infusion grind that I’m sure will be next (+5 now, +7 next, +10 after that, etc.). That’ll force people who don’t plan on getting Ascended gear to do exactly that.

250 scraps should be enough make whole set.

Just wait a few months. It’ll hit the laurel/honor badge merchant. No need to craft or rush into crafting it.

Ah, is that why I can sell my silk scraps now at the TP and make good money.

Is this a wvwer complaining about silk scraps? Did I miss something, should I horde my 10 billion t5 mats now?

Aeonblade.8709:

Just wait a few months. It’ll hit the laurel/honor badge merchant. No need to craft or rush into crafting it.

don’t hold your breath.

geist.3980:

Aeonblade.8709:

Just wait a few months. It’ll hit the laurel/honor badge merchant. No need to craft or rush into crafting it.

don’t hold your breath.

They confirmed in the vertical progression thread that more avenues to attain ascended weapons/armor were coming to WvW and other areas of the game.

No breath holding involved, Anet themselves said it was something people wanted and that they were going to make it easier to attain for WvW players.

Johje Holan.4607:

Ah, is that why I can sell my silk scraps now at the TP and make good money.

I recently returned to the game after a 5 month absense. Was just vendoring my scraps when, for whatever reason, checked the TP. Been selling em like crazy ever since

Aeonblade.8709:

geist.3980:

Aeonblade.8709:

Just wait a few months. It’ll hit the laurel/honor badge merchant. No need to craft or rush into crafting it.

don’t hold your breath.

They confirmed in the vertical progression thread that more avenues to attain ascended weapons/armor were coming to WvW and other areas of the game.

No breath holding involved, Anet themselves said it was something people wanted and that they were going to make it easier to attain for WvW players.

What they say they’ll do and when they’ll actually do it are entirely different things.
Don’t expect this to come anytime soon because of Anet’s glacial development pace (especially with respect to all things WvW) as well as the fact that they know they’d anger a lot of PvE players if Ascended gear comes too easily too soon.

Lord Kuru.3685:

Aeonblade.8709:

geist.3980:

Aeonblade.8709:

Just wait a few months. It’ll hit the laurel/honor badge merchant. No need to craft or rush into crafting it.

don’t hold your breath.

They confirmed in the vertical progression thread that more avenues to attain ascended weapons/armor were coming to WvW and other areas of the game.

No breath holding involved, Anet themselves said it was something people wanted and that they were going to make it easier to attain for WvW players.

What they say they’ll do and when they’ll actually do it are entirely different things.
Don’t expect this to come anytime soon because of Anet’s glacial development pace (especially with respect to all things WvW) as well as the fact that they know they’d anger a lot of PvE players if Ascended gear comes too easily too soon.

Well, if the PvE players have a problem with it, I’ll be waiting in EBL without a care in the world

It’s just the direction this game is heading in now, Any mmo owned by Koreans is gonna make you pay and grind. Wait for the new games out in 2014 like most other people then leave this insult to gw1 in the sewer where it belongs.

I’m not worry about ascended armor atm, it gives a minimal advantage on every set, the entire set gives at most like 5% more stats, not even worth it

I agree, the ascended armor altogether is as good as the weapon alone and the costs are ridiculous. I think the problem with the scraps is, that there is no way that u really are able to farm all this materials. You have no choice than to go to the transfermarket. And I think that is something that shouldn’t be in a game. It is good that the scraps are now worth something instead of being something you have to throw away, but the number you need for one piece of ascended armor ist just silly.

But I get it: Impossible to reach with farming —> more cost —> more reason to buy gems and make them into gold to achieve your goals.

Khayoss.2019:

Why do you have to buy the scraps? Salvage your loot for goodness sake. I’ve got 2 sets of ascended armor already and I don’t exactly have a ton of cash… You get everything you need by salvaging.

No you don’t.

I am a WvW player, solo/small group roaming and raiding and I almost finished my first full ascended set. Planning on making 2 more for my warrior alone.

1 day in WvW gives me around 200 silk scraps salvaging stuff I get.
10000/200 = 50 days – 30 days (needed for laurels) = 20 day delay on full ascended if you want to make it without buying from TP.

Don’t see the trouble really.

MiLkZz.4789:

warrior

This is the reason you don’t see the trouble.

Me personally, I’m not even bothering with trying to get Ascended. That’s why I sell all my silk scraps on the TP.

MiLkZz.4789:

I am a WvW player, solo/small group roaming and raiding and I almost finished my first full ascended set. Planning on making 2 more for my warrior alone.

1 day in WvW gives me around 200 silk scraps salvaging stuff I get.
10000/200 = 50 days – 30 days (needed for laurels) = 20 day delay on full ascended if you want to make it without buying from TP.

Don’t see the trouble really.

Heavy ascended costs one third of what light ascended costs.

Even if I bothered to get ascended gear, I’d just the skin the weapons and armor with something else. Most of the ascended stuff is pretty dumb looking, imo.

UHD.2634:

MiLkZz.4789:

I am a WvW player, solo/small group roaming and raiding and I almost finished my first full ascended set. Planning on making 2 more for my warrior alone.

1 day in WvW gives me around 200 silk scraps salvaging stuff I get.
10000/200 = 50 days – 30 days (needed for laurels) = 20 day delay on full ascended if you want to make it without buying from TP.

Don’t see the trouble really.

Heavy ascended costs one third of what light ascended costs.

Oops, wasn’t aware of that. My bad. Than the costs might be a little steep yea.

Becka Williams.4978:

Khayoss.2019:

Why do you have to buy the scraps? Salvage your loot for goodness sake. I’ve got 2 sets of ascended armor already and I don’t exactly have a ton of cash… You get everything you need by salvaging.

No you don’t.

I have leveled 4 crafts to 500, crafted several weapons and now 2 sets of armor. I’d love for you to tell me what I’ve had to buy from the TP.

I’d just forget about the ascended armour right now unless you have mats and money to burn.

I crafted 3 parts of the ascended armour (coat, legs, and helmet), which gives a sub-par boost to stats at best. When I looked at the other 3 pieces, the stats are near identical.. The only increase was in the primary stat (power) and it was tiny, like +2 for each piece. The other 2 stats were the same.

Basically, why spend an extra 30-40g for an extra 6 power or whatever the primary stat is on the armour. That is unless you like the look of it.

i will do my second legendary thx for the silc. (my warrior doesnt need silk )

ANet clearly wanted to correct the silk trade imbalance and did not anticipate supply/demand correctly. They need to fix this either by upping supply (more likely) or dropping the amount needed (less likely).

Khayoss.2019:

Becka Williams.4978:

Khayoss.2019:

Why do you have to buy the scraps? Salvage your loot for goodness sake. I’ve got 2 sets of ascended armor already and I don’t exactly have a ton of cash… You get everything you need by salvaging.

No you don’t.

I have leveled 4 crafts to 500, crafted several weapons and now 2 sets of armor. I’d love for you to tell me what I’ve had to buy from the TP.

Where’d you get the bolts of damask? Thin air? I’ve been crafting mine every day since ascended armor came out, and I don’t even have one full set. So don’t tell me you aren’t buying bolts from the TP.

Becka Williams.4978:

Where’d you get the bolts of damask? Thin air? I’ve been crafting mine every day since ascended armor came out, and I don’t even have one full set. So don’t tell me you aren’t buying bolts from the TP.

More than one account = more than one bolt per day. But that’s irrelevant… this thread, and your initial comment, was directed at the fact that the crafting materials (silk specifically) isn’t readily available in WvW, and that we were being forced to buy them from the TP in order to make ascended armor. I dispute this notion because everything I used to get my first 2 weapons and almost my entire first suit of armor came exclusively from WvW, and I had it all before they launched ascended armor because I knew it was coming. If anyone else wanted ascended armor that badly they could have done the same thing… I have so much silk and mithril I had to start a bank guild to hold onto it. It is very abundant in WvW if you just salvage your loot.

Khayoss.2019:

Becka Williams.4978:

Where’d you get the bolts of damask? Thin air? I’ve been crafting mine every day since ascended armor came out, and I don’t even have one full set. So don’t tell me you aren’t buying bolts from the TP.

More than one account = more than one bolt per day. But that’s irrelevant… this thread, and your initial comment, was directed at the fact that the crafting materials (silk specifically) isn’t readily available in WvW, and that we were being forced to buy them from the TP in order to make ascended armor. I dispute this notion because everything I used to get my first 2 weapons and almost my entire first suit of armor came exclusively from WvW, and I had it all before they launched ascended armor because I knew it was coming. If anyone else wanted ascended armor that badly they could have done the same thing… I have so much silk and mithril I had to start a bank guild to hold onto it. It is very abundant in WvW if you just salvage your loot.

You knew it was coming? So you just by chance thought i will stack on mass silk,cotton,linen and what other else is needed. Just by chance?

Bullkitten.

Khayoss.2019:

Becka Williams.4978:

Where’d you get the bolts of damask? Thin air? I’ve been crafting mine every day since ascended armor came out, and I don’t even have one full set. So don’t tell me you aren’t buying bolts from the TP.

More than one account = more than one bolt per day. But that’s irrelevant… this thread, and your initial comment, was directed at the fact that the crafting materials (silk specifically) isn’t readily available in WvW, and that we were being forced to buy them from the TP in order to make ascended armor. I dispute this notion because everything I used to get my first 2 weapons and almost my entire first suit of armor came exclusively from WvW, and I had it all before they launched ascended armor because I knew it was coming. If anyone else wanted ascended armor that badly they could have done the same thing… I have so much silk and mithril I had to start a bank guild to hold onto it. It is very abundant in WvW if you just salvage your loot.

So, you have enough money to get a second account, get that account up to level 500 in an ascended armor craft, and then claim you’re not rich? Please. And you’d have to have more than 2 account to have 2 full sets. So you have at least 3 accounts. Tell me you’re not rich. PLEASE.

Colly.4073:

You knew it was coming? So you just by chance thought i will stack on mass silk,cotton,linen and what other else is needed. Just by chance?

Bullkitten.

They announced that we would be getting ascended armor a long time before it was patched in. Ascended weapons gave us the blueprint for what we would need for armor, and the armor itself follows the pattern of crafting armor at levels below it, there is no chance about it… It was planned out on purpose based on information that was readily available. What exactly is bullkitten about that? I’m far from the only one who planned ahead. Do you not read the dev preview articles they post? Did ascended armor actually surprise you when it showed up in the patch notes?

Becka Williams.4978:

So, you have enough money to get a second account, get that account up to level 500 in an ascended armor craft, and then claim you’re not rich? Please. And you’d have to have more than 2 account to have 2 full sets. So you have at least 3 accounts. Tell me you’re not rich. PLEASE.

This is still completely off topic and I really don’t understand why you are attacking me about it, but yes I have 3 accounts and no I’m not rich. I currently have about 60 gold. I have had all crafts at level 400 for over a year, when they bumped the cap to 500 it was an easy and cheap jump to go to 500 because I barely had to buy anything. Armorsmith cost around 5 gold and some karma and 20 minutes of my afternoon. The other two accounts are of no consequence to this discussion because you are trying to make it about the speed at which I acquired the components, whereas this thread is about the availability of the materials required to craft the ascended components. And on that subject I stand by my claim that you get everything you need by salvaging your loot. No one is forced to spend hundreds of gold buying anything. They CAN do that to fast track the process if they didn’t plan ahead and are desperate to have ascended armor for whatever reason… But in no way are they being forced into it by the lack of access to what is needed in WvW.

The stat differences are negligible, and having it isn’t making anyone a better player. If anyone wants ascended armor, salvage, save your mats and get it when you get it.

Just take your time for crafting the armor. There is no need to hurry. Ascended items are planned as mid-term projects. The gain of stats is not so dramatic.

This could change if Arenanet introduces the announced “high end” infusions. Currently only “first level” infusions available. I assume the difference between exotic and ascended will then be comparable to the one between exotics without any runes/sigils and with superior runes/sigils.

There is a decent chance that ascended items are easier obtain and allow stat-swapping OOC in the mid future.

I have finished three pieces of armor so far. The rest will come step by step. I am simply patient.

Khayoss.2019:

This is still completely off topic and I really don’t understand why you are attacking me about it, but yes I have 3 accounts and no I’m not rich. I currently have about 60 gold. I have had all crafts at level 400 for over a year, when they bumped the cap to 500 it was an easy and cheap jump to go to 500 because I barely had to buy anything. Armorsmith cost around 5 gold and some karma and 20 minutes of my afternoon. The other two accounts are of no consequence to this discussion because you are trying to make it about the speed at which I acquired the components, whereas this thread is about the availability of the materials required to craft the ascended components. And on that subject I stand by my claim that you get everything you need by salvaging your loot. No one is forced to spend hundreds of gold buying anything. They CAN do that to fast track the process if they didn’t plan ahead and are desperate to have ascended armor for whatever reason… But in no way are they being forced into it by the lack of access to what is needed in WvW.

You certainly realize that your play time and the fact that you have 3 accounts is anything but commonplace. Hoping for drops of several materials needed, like Dragonite or Ectos, purely by WvW is also entirely unrealistic on any humane timescale.

The stat differences are negligible, and having it isn’t making anyone a better player. If anyone wants ascended armor, salvage, save your mats and get it when you get it.

5% better offensive stats versus a target with 5% worse defensive stats isn’t exactly “negligible” to me.

Jamais vu.5284:

You certainly realize that your play time and the fact that you have 3 accounts is anything but commonplace. Hoping for drops of several materials needed, like Dragonite or Ectos, purely by WvW is also entirely unrealistic on any humane timescale.

Having 3 accounts is abnormal, yes, but doesn’t make me some crazy hardcore multiboxer. I have 2 family members that stopped playing GW2 nearly 9 months ago. When ascended armor came out I used their accounts to accelerate getting the time constrained items. Leveling armorsmith from 400-500 on those 2 extra accounts was cheap and easy, and still has nothing to do with the availability of silk scraps in WvW or my playtime.

I’m rank 290 or so on my highest of 4 characters, and rank 7 on my lowest. I’m by no means a casual player, but I’m not on 24-7 grinding either. What seems to have some people irked is the fact that I started actively saving all T2-6 mats I could get my hands on in preparation of ascended armor back in September – the second ascended weapons were first launched and gave us a clue of what was coming. Then when it came around time to launch ascended I had all my bases covered and then some. Somehow that makes me a bad guy for telling people that their complaints about WvWers being expected to spend astronomical amounts of gold on the TP unfounded.

It’s really, really simple. Salvage your loot, open your bags, bank every crafting component you get. In a month or two you’ll have ascended armor. It’s not complicated or unfair.

Dragonite is a whole other topic. WvW gets shafted in this department. The fact that I can get 600 dragonite in a day of PvE stuff versus maybe 40 in a great day in WvW is a colossal joke. But I only discovered that about 2 weeks ago when I wanted a 2nd set of ascended, and that’s not what this thread is about.