Guild Wars 2

I guess all servers have some players who have tunnel vision when it comes to SM, it’s just frustrating. We have some who zone in and immediately start trying to get an attack on SM going if we don’t currently hold it, without taking the time to assess the situation and help secure our third of the map. And they are almost completely unresponsive to anything said that goes against their SM focus.

I got abandoned and left for dead twice yesterday. Both times I had people with me who disappeared as soon as red names showed up. One was a 3 vs. 3 situation that turned into 3 vs. me. Right outside one of our towers. People will fight in front of SM for hours but try getting them to help protect a Dolyak heading for SM. Yeah, good luck with that.

FA’s oceanic/Asian prime time is every bit as scary as CDs, TC is nearly wiped off the map entirely at this point.

And I thought we could finally take a break from CD going +500 everyday during this time slot =(

Look at it this way, at least we have plenty to take back. Keeps us busy!

Heh, that just means you only have ~8 hours until TC comes to take it all back. Hope you can get enough points by then.

Some pretty intense fights yesterday evening eu time We were determined not to give you Golanta and I loved you all coming over the bridge TC – lots of loot bags for me using the arrow carts

One thing we need to do on FA, though, is to leave some defenders in the towers we take to upgrade and deploy siege – too manty times we take a tower only to have it retaken a few minutes later due to not doing the above .

A shout out to the very nice people on this server though, having a blast with you all

Tang Gluth (Asg)

Agreed Gnat that one of our weaknesses is patience. We tend to want to run around on the offense 100% of the time without fortifying positions with upgrades and siege. Also amazed how many times I will see a keep trying to be upgraded but the adjacent supply camps are still not upgraded to deliver double supplies.

Good fights so far from TC and Yak. /tiphat

Gnat.5124:

Some pretty intense fights yesterday evening eu time We were determined not to give you Golanta and I loved you all coming over the bridge TC – lots of loot bags for me using the arrow carts

One thing we need to do on FA, though, is to leave some defenders in the towers we take to upgrade and deploy siege – too manty times we take a tower only to have it retaken a few minutes later due to not doing the above .

A shout out to the very nice people on this server though, having a blast with you all

Tang Gluth (Asg)

Really? I’m not sure if it was your group, but yesterday during EU time I remember flanking Golanta while you (you as in FA, not you specifically!) and a few TCers were playing the ‘lure’ game, after you guys decided not to look behind the logs, I took down 5 of you thinking you were safe with the vets, after that, we took back Gol with ease and killed the ACs behind the shed. Maybe a different group – we lost Gol a few times yesterday.

Had some seriously intense fights so far this match up, it’s been a lot of fun. Also, TC, it’s not over yet, but I’m seriously proud of you guys for closing the gap and pulling out into the lead after being behind around 6k points.

Score update? I am trapped.

Here you go. About 2 hours back TC was at +45 lol.

Thanks, props to you guys!

Such a close matchup! ULTD is loving it! I know I can speak for FA when I say keep it coming, this weekend was awesome fun; I’m sure we have one awesome week to look forward to. Cheers.

Static.9841:

Gnat.5124:

Some pretty intense fights yesterday evening eu time We were determined not to give you Golanta and I loved you all coming over the bridge TC – lots of loot bags for me using the arrow carts

One thing we need to do on FA, though, is to leave some defenders in the towers we take to upgrade and deploy siege – too manty times we take a tower only to have it retaken a few minutes later due to not doing the above .

A shout out to the very nice people on this server though, having a blast with you all

Tang Gluth (Asg)

Really? I’m not sure if it was your group, but yesterday during EU time I remember flanking Golanta while you (you as in FA, not you specifically!) and a few TCers were playing the ‘lure’ game, after you guys decided not to look behind the logs, I took down 5 of you thinking you were safe with the vets, after that, we took back Gol with ease and killed the ACs behind the shed. Maybe a different group – we lost Gol a few times yesterday.

Had some seriously intense fights so far this match up, it’s been a lot of fun. Also, TC, it’s not over yet, but I’m seriously proud of you guys for closing the gap and pulling out into the lead after being behind around 6k points.

Yeah wasn’t my group, I was mostly in the keep… sometimes tried to get the pack cows back from the camp..was good fun

ykyk.2740:

FA’s oceanic/Asian prime time is every bit as scary as CDs, TC is nearly wiped off the map entirely at this point.

And I thought we could finally take a break from CD going +500 everyday during this time slot =(

This made my day

PRO has been working incredibly hard to increase our ranks with night time players, and though we do have several Oceanics in our guild, we’re actually for a great part a bunch of awesome NA peeps that are pulling several all-nighters to make a stand and slowly regain what’s lost earlier in the night. I remember playing WvW less than a month ago and our server always complaining about having a non-existant Oceanic crew. We’ve worked so hard, and in coordination with some other awesome guilds such as PTX to improve in this. So to hear above comment from another server is just about the biggest compliment we can get.

This is definitely my favorite match til date. TC can sure bring some numbers to the game. I honestly have no idea who’s gonna win this one. Even YB still has a good chance if they can manage to make the right moves at the right time. See ya on the battlefield!

Soloc.8693:

ykyk.2740:

FA’s oceanic/Asian prime time is every bit as scary as CDs, TC is nearly wiped off the map entirely at this point.

And I thought we could finally take a break from CD going +500 everyday during this time slot =(

This made my day

PRO has been working incredibly hard to increase our ranks with night time players, and though we do have several Oceanics in our guild, we’re actually for a great part a bunch of awesome NA peeps that are pulling several all-nighters to make a stand and slowly regain what’s lost earlier in the night. I remember playing WvW less than a month ago and our server always complaining about having a non-existant Oceanic crew. We’ve worked so hard, and in coordination with some other awesome guilds such as PTX to improve in this. So to hear above comment from another server is just about the biggest compliment we can get.

This is definitely my favorite match til date. TC can sure bring some numbers to the game. I honestly have no idea who’s gonna win this one. Even YB still has a good chance if they can manage to make the right moves at the right time. See ya on the battlefield!

Your guys really want the win – and it shows. This is nothing like the FA we faced a few weeks back who gave up nearly immediately, and the best thing is it’s basically the same few guilds rather than any serious bandwagoning (I see I think just 1 big new guild? Asgards or something. And some JPN?). Other than that oceanic dead zone where <insert blue server here> rolls us over 9000 to 10, there’s basically never a dull moment in the past few tier 3 matchups. I just feel bad for the one server out of TC/FA/YB/CD who has to play in tier 4 every week, they’re missing out!

Edit: I’ll be kitten interested in a CD/FA matchup just to see the battle of the oceanic zergs. We’ll probably be +0 every night if such a matchup arises, but such is life on the coast

Hats off to TC comanders, your militia is a beast to be fear and very well cordinated I might add from personal and painful experienced.

Yaks don’t stay behind either, their fighting spirit is impressive.

This match has been a blast with everyone bringing their A game!

Cheers and Happy Hunting!

As an FA player, I’ll tip my cap to the TC and YB players who were on this weekend. This has been one of the funnest and hardest fought match-ups I’ve seen in a while. Hopefully it continues into the work week.

I have really enjoyed this match, frustrating, and intense and fun at the same time.

One complaint/bad sport thing I have been seeing a lot of recently that I would like to see stop is siege on edge of spawn points. Its cheap and in poor taste. I am not going to blame a server because it is just one or two groups but setting up siege where you can just dodge back and be inv is stupid. It is not intended and we all know that. Winning that way kind of makes you a loser, and you know who you are. Had to clear it out 4 times this match so far. And no it wasn’t a response to spawn camping which I gladly have not really seen on any side so far.

I am disappointed, but not surprised that nightcaping will be ultimate decided of this matchup.

FA is getting beat down during prime time by TC, throw in Yaks and we start losing ground. I think everyone here is too used to zerg surfing to properly defend. I would say TC defensive game is superior to FA, both response time and stay&hold, and that what end up costing us.

Hardly ever I see FA aggressively defending supply camps or forts, preferring to let it fall and re-cap. I think this is a big mistake.

Hardly ever I see FA aggressively defending supply camps or forts

Supply camps and towers that is.

Why did they call forts “towers” and keeps “garrisons” ?!

FA has a significant amount of newbile WvWers, and when there’s leadership present, we seem to take points on the map very well, but when there’s not a commander… it’s a gaggle of newbies calling everyone somewhere every time they see more than 2 TC or Yak

forgot to finish my point: We’re good at taking things, but not so good at defending once we have them.

-Brauhaus

FormulaX.8901:

FA has a significant amount of newbile WvWers, and when there’s leadership present, we seem to take points on the map very well, but when there’s not a commander… it’s a gaggle of newbies calling everyone somewhere every time they see more than 2 TC or Yak

As someone who’s been on TC since the start of the weekly matches…trust me, it’s the same over here :P Unlike FA who have several very big and organized guilds however, our forces are almost always militia, all the time (as I’m sure you can observe from the great mix of guilds in any TC army). Sometimes we have strong leaders and achieve a level of coordination that almost rivals any big guild group…and sometimes we run around like headless chickens and lose everything we have It’s like the TC identity, the way we run our pugs.

There are two things I want to remind: first, there’s actually plenty of US players fighting during those late hours. I was just playing about 11 hours since midnight Pacific (with a lunch break at one point)(wanted to put in many hours now that I didn’t need to time myself to Lost Shores stuff). I’m not doing a good job of tracking which guilds are oversea, because it looks to me like [GODS] is still the largest population even at those hours.

Second thing I want to remind is that [JPN] (White Macaron) has been present in Fort Aspenwood nearly the entire time, not a recent transferal. I definitely recall them since about the second or third week of GW2’s release. And they are indeed Japanese.

That aside I’m really enjoying this match. 5am Pacific is clearly the climax of TC and YB having a population much lower than FA, but the full period of time of us pushing so far in doesn’t last all that long. Seemed like we held TC keep only about 30 minutes (e.battlegrounds).

And YB has an awesomely solid defense when it comes to their keeps. Maybe defense in general.

The scores are so close, this is the kind of match that I always look forward to. Hopefully territory will be yet less stagnant later today and tomorrow with people getting out of Lost Shores mode.

Can we get a score update? Maybe a map shot too?

kanikani.2430:

I have really enjoyed this match, frustrating, and intense and fun at the same time.

One complaint/bad sport thing I have been seeing a lot of recently that I would like to see stop is siege on edge of spawn points. Its cheap and in poor taste. I am not going to blame a server because it is just one or two groups but setting up siege where you can just dodge back and be inv is stupid. It is not intended and we all know that. Winning that way kind of makes you a loser, and you know who you are. Had to clear it out 4 times this match so far. And no it wasn’t a response to spawn camping which I gladly have not really seen on any side so far.

There’s always more than one way out of a spawn camp and a group can usually easily flank the siege set up. I still havent decieded if it’s rude, but it seems pointless unless you just took the enemy’s keep in EB and want to hold off enemies while you try to fortify it. I thnik it’s also a spirit breaker method too. People come to the map, get sieged as soon as they spawn, and decide to go do something else, or go to another map.

Im not against trebbing a spawn point if you just took an enemy’s fort on their territory, but ballista/Ac-ing is kinda pointless.

But, all is fair (even mesmers and thiefs )

-FA

Daedalus.3954:

Can we get a score update? Maybe a map shot too?

The score numbers are being held hostage until we get our site back!

here ya go:

I would also like to tip my hat off to TC and Yak’s for some awesome fights this weekend. I figured this weekend would be a slow WvW since LS and Fractal dungeon were released, but we had plenty of showing from all servers. Good luck to all and I look forward to the rest of the week.

and here ther other:

Some of the best fights I’ve had. Zergs and small teams. Hats off to YB and FA.

I can completely conferm the 2v1 =D but i refuse to stop. I’m going ot just have to man up and keep on goin!

Ira.5172:

Daedalus.3954:

Can we get a score update? Maybe a map shot too?

The score numbers are being held hostage until we get our site back!

On it!

Having an absolute blast, such amazing fights, though most of the time I’m running around with a small group of TCFM members harassing back areas and we keep finding large groups of you angry people who chase us all the way back to TC territory. :P

See you all on the field tonight, and if you see a Charr and Asura theif running around with an asura warrior or mesmer chasing close behind, feel free to wave before you start peppering us with horribly painful things and angry death, no need to be uncivil!

To the YB who were in a line dancing at us Sunday morning (eastern US) after taking Godslore right on our doorstep: Well played, noble adversaries, well played.

Gnat.5124:

Yeah wasn’t my group, I was mostly in the keep… sometimes tried to get the pack cows back from the camp..was good fun

Good stuff, been having some great fights with your guys around Gol and RQ though

Regrets of Sini.6083:

Hardly ever I see FA aggressively defending supply camps or forts, preferring to let it fall and re-cap. I think this is a big mistake.

I don’t know man, you guys fought really hard over Durios last night, took TC a while to actually take it as well as a couple failed attempts by a fairly large group – not to mention the epic battle going on outside SE Stonemist. You guys also regularly take Gol and set up siege.

We have a decent response time depending on the objective, some towers/objectives we let fall because either our numbers are concentrated elsewhere or we have a different objective in mind (or because we simply don’t have the numbers at the time and are spread too thin). We also have fairly decent communication with those TC players who are usually on daily. We do suffer however, from headless chicken syndrome when some groups seem to not be able to function when there’s a blue icon on map, but the rest of us organise ourselves and do what we can.

UberLander.8326:

I can completely conferm the 2v1 =D but i refuse to stop. I’m going ot just have to man up and keep on goin!

And how can you confirm a 2V1? Oh, you mean how YB hit SM immediately after we took it from you? Or by YB hitting our supply camps when we are taking a keep or tower from you?

we just lost the keep…

also, after managing to upgrade umber and forify durios and lay out siege, despite the annoying little band of yaks..we got steamrolled by TC after they took the keep lol

/cries

UberLander.8326:

I can completely conferm the 2v1 =D but i refuse to stop. I’m going ot just have to man up and keep on goin!

This again? There is absolutely NO 2v1, I will murder YB as quickly as I will you, as will all of TC. Please cut this out.

Nice to see a pact between TC and yak, gonna make this so much fun the rest of the week.

Bit.2519:

No need for the arguing everyone. This is going to be a competitive match for sure. I know the score is going swing back and forth DAILY. Easily.

This…

Arguing with people who play the same game as you is a waste of time…

Also.. our name is very similar.. i find that funny considering we are both very active commanders in top-guilds on our servers

jinx.8169:

UberLander.8326:

I can completely conferm the 2v1 =D but i refuse to stop. I’m going ot just have to man up and keep on goin!

And how can you confirm a 2V1? Oh, you mean how YB hit SM immediately after we took it from you? Or by YB hitting our supply camps when we are taking a keep or tower from you?

Try not to take it as a complaint heh. FA isnt going to stop fighting. winning is not a matter of point.

But if you want to stress about it go right ahead.

I want to think everyone right now helping to defend The bay. keep it up!

i mean… if there’s ever an alliance, its usually unspoken and by the 2 servers who currently have the lower scores against the winning server.

TC doesn’t need to ally with either of your servers. We can hold our own, just like you can. We earned our place in this tier and until you consider us equals in competition you are going to make vital mistakes.

EDIT: In addition, 99.9% of TC is not a win at all costs server. Those you will find in the tiers above us. If you want to compete there, you need to understand the difference of tactics and double-teaming. Up there, they ARE win at all costs. Judging on our equal capabilities, I doubt either server against us this week would be any better than us facing a SoS or even SoR opponent. If you want to compete in higher tiers, you need to stow these silly comments and realize that any smart server is going to make tactical choices, sometimes on the fly, about what to hit next. That usually involves hitting the opponent that presents the best long-term possibilities to our score and position.

A good general studies tactics and learns from mistakes. Poor leaders making excuses for losing instead of improving are the downfall of us all.

If Yaks focuses on FA when we’re not in first it’s just them rolling over and admitting they have no chance at 1st. But that’s only true if you only want 2nd place. If you go for 1st, you push them down and the gap closes for everyone.

It only makes sense for TC to push harder on the 2nd place person. It encourages Yaks to hit FA and solidifies their lead. We just have to see how gullible the masses are.

ykyk.2740:

FA’s oceanic/Asian prime time is every bit as scary as CDs, TC is nearly wiped off the map entirely at this point.

That’s the 2nd all nighter I’ve pulled, and been up until 3am previous nights. I’m a NA central time prime time person but this match is so close I can’t make myself logoff.

We took the 3 keeps in TC because they remaining TC seemed to have blinders on in EB and weren’t checking their BL until it was too late. They took them back easily enough.

Regrets of Sini.6083:

I am disappointed, but not surprised that nightcaping will be ultimate decided of this matchup.

It’s not likely to be decided that way. We have a lot of primetime players who have pulled all nighters – this is not an off-peak player thing like a huge asia guild taking undefended keeps. It’s easy to find excuses. It’s just as easy to say “I am disappointed, but not surprised that TC superior WvW population will ultimately decide this matchup rather than straight tactics, strategy, and skill.” But, the fact is TC is not winning because of that. They’re winning because they have 1-2 guys guarding their supply camps and reinforcements always close enough to get there to flip the camp or defend it. Numbers help, but a mindless zerg would have been stomped off the map and in 3rd place by now.

It’s much more likely to be “decided” by the fact that TC can take all those keeps and get them upgraded before primetime hits, making them hard targets. High numbers of players favor the defending when it’s close in pop. You can bomb siege with sheer numbers, making capping nearly impossible. Bumrush a supply camp and run it back to a keep to set up more defensive siege which cannot be easily removed.

It’s interesting to see the opinions of others throughout this match-up. I’m glad to see people actually care what is going on this week and are willing to throw in their own strategies on who should do what and when. However, when it comes to Tarnished Coast there is a reason we are getting better and better. It’s not through organization or by brute force. It’s the mere fact that we can be considered predictable and surprise people by doing the exact opposite of what the opposing Commanders may think. As a main Commander on EB, I know that we have strong nomadic tendencies. We don’t stay anywhere longer than we should and keep moving despite the certain obstacles ahead. Tarnished Coast, or The Garnished Toast rather, has risen through the ranks due to out-of-the-box thinking. Of course people will claim that servers will make a truce with others, and some due. However, there is always an end-game to every motive we, as Commanders, have formed throughout the time online. Every fight is different, every scenario is circumstantial. Personally, this is probably the most fun in a match-up I have played and commanded in. Keep it up Toasters!

I’m liking this match up so much that I almost hope that no one moves up or down and that we get a rematch next week. (Thought it would be fun to rotate the positions some). I never like being the same color 2 weeks in a row.

@ PiNK, I would love to fight you guys when not in mega zerg formation, doubt it will ever happen though. You do seem to appear at the right time though, I’ll give you that.

edit: We got it at Greenwater in FA borderlands right after I posted this.

AngelShepard.7453:

It’s interesting to see the opinions of others throughout this match-up. I’m glad to see people actually care what is going on this week and are willing to throw in their own strategies on who should do what and when. However, when it comes to Tarnished Coast there is a reason we are getting better and better. It’s not through organization or by brute force. It’s the mere fact that we can be considered predictable and surprise people by doing the exact opposite of what the opposing Commanders may think. As a main Commander on EB, I know that we have strong nomadic tendencies. We don’t stay anywhere longer than we should and keep moving despite the certain obstacles ahead. Tarnished Coast, or The Garnished Toast rather, has risen through the ranks due to out-of-the-box thinking. Of course people will claim that servers will make a truce with others, and some due. However, there is always an end-game to every motive we, as Commanders, have formed throughout the time online. Every fight is different, every scenario is circumstantial. Personally, this is probably the most fun in a match-up I have played and commanded in. Keep it up Toasters!

No offence, but who are you? I’ve never ONCE seen you in EB as a commander icon and I’m there on a daily basis for 90% of my gaming time, so you’re either a fake commander or you just lead your own group and call yourself one. Also, looking at your name, if you’re Lil Chuck Norris, I think you’ll find there are a great deal of people who would NEVER follow you because the actions of that person are becoming incredibly dubious, not to mention that person doesn’t command a kitten thing, repeats what others have said as if it’s their own thinking and follows the main commander and group every time, not to mention watching everyone else fight while they stand back in relative safety without contribution. That’s right Lil Chuck, people observe your actions.

@Static hehe sounds more like one of our modern day real-life politicians of any party.