Guild Wars 2

Welcome back HoD, long time no see. Let’s hope this match is way more even than the SF match. Looking forward to see what GoM brings to the battle as well.

HoD is ready to bring the thunder! I can’t wait for more even battles and sieges, good luck to SF and GoM, should be fun!

Best of luck, folks! I think we’re all looking forward to some action after last week’s lop-sided match-ups.

We’re all looking forward to this week. ET is an old rival while GoM is new. Good luck to all involved.

looks like its GoM’s turn to rule this tier. I am sick of all this one sided WvWvW. I dont care if I am winning or losing, no competition = no fun. Anet needs to get on top of this before the WvWvW side of their game dies off…

ET and HoD, you guys are awesome to battle with.
Keep up the great fights.

There’s not a whole lot that’s more frustrating than losing a near fully upgraded keep to someone who simply out numbers you…

I can’t believe we just held Overlook for about an hour with 10 people

Hey guys, Ferrum Blacktide here, a commander from GoM. You guys losing is not a result of outnumbering, cheating, or hacking. The commanders of GoM have been planning our comeback for the past two weeks, so thank you all for being a part of it. It really means a lot to me that so many of you guys are still being good sports about it.

PS: GoM finally learned to defend.

Oh Here we go. Just like in every match up that is one sided. While I am sure your plans did help and all that jazz, to take and hold almost all the maps? I’m sorry that is not out playing that is flat out out numbering.

Also I have a hard time saying GOM out played anyone when from the start of the match when GOM took SM, HOD out played us in every way possible for the next hour to take it from us. Heck at one point as the invading force HOD had more sieges built in SM in 10 minutes then we had built in the whole hour we held it.

Now don’t get me wrong I’m not trying to insult anyone, like i said I’m sure your plans helped and it never hurts to have leaders and people moving in the same direction. But you don’t get the maps to where they are now all of them 100-80% blue without a large numbers advantage.

We have the same amount of people as you and HoD. The only time you guys quit is when we started owning everything, so don’t start playing the numbers game.

Also, we didn’t own SM until 3 hours after reset. Try going for everything else first, rather than lowering your defenses to rush SM.

Has GoM finally earned the opponent butthurt achievement? I think so. Good day.

Viking Jorun.5413:

We have the same amount of people as you and HoD.

I don’t have any hard data to support my opinion, but I believe this to be 100% false. I understand all three servers have been victim to population exoduses, but I don’t think GoM was hit as bad as the other two. HoD and ET have been the lowest scoring NA servers for 8 consecutive weeks, and that’s through all brackets except 8. You cannot seriously assume that happens for any reason other than population imbalance.

This MAY be the bracket where population and participation start to even out for them. But from the looks of things, I doubt it.

Having said that, I don’t think it matters either way. As long as you’re not cheating, who cares how you win if you do win … having more help is a GOOD thing.

Viking Jorun.5413:

Hey guys, Ferrum Blacktide here, a commander from GoM. You guys losing is not a result of outnumbering, cheating, or hacking. The commanders of GoM have been planning our comeback for the past two weeks, so thank you all for being a part of it. It really means a lot to me that so many of you guys are still being good sports about it.

PS: GoM finally learned to defend.

Look, I know that you’re happy your efforts are finally paying off. As a fellow GoM player, I’m grateful for your hard work and planning that lead up to this point. But your post comes across as arrogant whether you intended it that way or not.

As part of the team that hit all three borderlands, I definitely felt we had the numbers advantage. There were a few excellent skirmishes here and there against enemy zergs, but we were left mostly unchecked for the much of the night even when pushing multiple objectives. Perhaps this is the result of good strategy and execution, but it’s still no reason to chest-thump. We still have a long way to go.

At any rate, our primary focus while we have control of the scoreboard should be to convert our fair-weather server-mates. Let’s teach them how to properly set up and use siege, show them when to defend or push, tell them the importance of WHY we’re taking certain objectives, etc. If we’re going to be the zerg server this week, let’s do it gracefully and re-invest our efforts into strengthening our server for future matchups.

GoM here. Yesterday I jumped briefly into WvW. I was amazed by the turn-out! Anyone who says it’s not a numbers thing is kidding themselves. BP said the same thing a few weeks back when they started jumping ahead. AR said it last week when they jumped up. Both servers were made fun of because of thier niavety. Maybe we didn’t get transfers, but WvW participation is way up compared to the last three weeks. Maybe we have a lot of fair-weather players. And perhaps the weather if fair because of the efforts of the above commander organization early on in the matchup. But in any case it’s unfortunate that we have yet another mismatch. I’m starting to think that disabling free server transfers will not fix the problem. Once one server gets far enough ahead, it’s over. That takes at most 2 days. I’m starting to think 3-day matches are required, with faster point gain toward the end of the matchup.

Viking Jorun.5413:

Hey guys, Ferrum Blacktide here, a commander from GoM. You guys losing is not a result of outnumbering, cheating, or hacking. The commanders of GoM have been planning our comeback for the past two weeks, so thank you all for being a part of it. It really means a lot to me that so many of you guys are still being good sports about it.

PS: GoM finally learned to defend.

GoM took 1/2 the Server onto ET Borderlands and ran around like a mindless zergball…..

for example, 6(0) pool zergling all in rush = gg (SC2), 1/2 server all in rush = lost tower

Not really tactics imo, just a simple cheese, but w/e floats your boat.

Was fun fighting & killing 1/2 the zerg at the gate of Dreaming bay, Churning Earth is Op..probably the only skill useful to a D/D ele (No doubt people will complain about it….and ask for a nerf like all our other skills -.-)

anyway, here a Screenie of the GoM zerg wanting longview tower (Oh yeah, you can’t kill me when I am in this spot…)

(all that for an undefended tower? Really?……)

all in all was fun fighting you guys that it took 1 (And a 1/2?, i lost count) hours for you guys to get into dreaming bay…..

:)

Another “you guys are bad because you run in a zerg” post… Yes, we all know they are less effecient at map control. But look at the bar at the top of the screen. It doesn’t matter, does it? Let the fair-weather WvWers on GoM (my server) learn the ropes and get an idea how this game mode works. We can refine tactics later when it will actually make a difference. I’m just as upset about the poor matchup, but I’m not about to go around whining and being a poor loser/winner.

Viking Jorun.5413:

Hey guys, Ferrum Blacktide here, a commander from GoM. You guys losing is not a result of outnumbering, cheating, or hacking. The commanders of GoM have been planning our comeback for the past two weeks, so thank you all for being a part of it. It really means a lot to me that so many of you guys are still being good sports about it.

PS: GoM finally learned to defend.

Didn’t mean anything like that with my comment, you guys are doing an awesome job. HoD was slowly losing people till we barely had enough people to defend a tower, let alone that keep in EB. When evenly matched GoM and HoD have some great fights, it just seems like GoM has a better round the clock presence than HoD. We’ve got a bit to learn from you =)

Eviator.9746:

Another “you guys are bad because you run in a zerg” post… Yes, we all know they are less effecient at map control. But look at the bar at the top of the screen. It doesn’t matter, does it? Let the fair-weather WvWers on GoM (my server) learn the ropes and get an idea how this game mode works. We can refine tactics later when it will actually make a difference. I’m just as upset about the poor matchup, but I’m not about to go around whining and being a poor loser/winner.

Please point out where i said you guys are bad?

Eggsactly, I didn’t, before jumping to assumptions at least learn to troll first.

GoM player here.

I applaud my server’s attempt at organizing, but there is still a long way to go. We were actually less organized for quite a while (commanders ignoring assignments, arguing with each other, and quite a few stubborn noob commanders who thought that the blue icon made them smart). Meanwhile HoD had an awesome supply denial tactic going in EB which won them SM for a short time, and in all the confusion no one listened to our calls to defend supply lines.

GoM is a PvE server, so once we started winning, PvE players came out in droves. We had numbers, we did not have tactics. We have absolutely no right to brag. We should be ashamed that HoG was able to push us out of SM, not bragging.

This is not to say that GoM is not improving. I believe that GoM has a lot of potential, and that we are still a work-in-progress. Don’t give up on GoM, but also don’t get overconfident. We still need to learn coordination and train our players. We did not win this by skill.

Hats off to ET and HoG. We have been in your shoes frequently, and I respect you a lot for still fighting. HoG, your tactics were really great in your initial push for SM. And ET, you have this annoying habit of showing up at the worst possible time. You both have a lot to be proud of. I apologize for any GoM players who tell you otherwise.

You all over at GoM held on to SM stubbornly for some time. It took us at least three separate pushes into the outer courtyard to finally crack that nut.

It’s unfortunate that we just did not have the numbers to hold up the push late into the (North American timezones) night. I’m looking forward to how this matchup progresses over the week. If we can start fielding numbers more reliably I have hope for HoD yet.

Congrats to GoM for finally wiping the map. See ya guys tomorrow!

roostapro.9827:

Viking Jorun.5413:

Hey guys, Ferrum Blacktide here, a commander from GoM. You guys losing is not a result of outnumbering, cheating, or hacking. The commanders of GoM have been planning our comeback for the past two weeks, so thank you all for being a part of it. It really means a lot to me that so many of you guys are still being good sports about it.

PS: GoM finally learned to defend.

GoM took 1/2 the Server onto ET Borderlands and ran around like a mindless zergball…..

for example, 6(0) pool zergling all in rush = gg (SC2), 1/2 server all in rush = lost tower

Not really tactics imo, just a simple cheese, but w/e floats your boat.

Was fun fighting & killing 1/2 the zerg at the gate of Dreaming bay, Churning Earth is Op..probably the only skill useful to a D/D ele (No doubt people will complain about it….and ask for a nerf like all our other skills -.-)

anyway, here a Screenie of the GoM zerg wanting longview tower (Oh yeah, you can’t kill me when I am in this spot…)

(all that for an undefended tower? Really?……)

all in all was fun fighting you guys that it took 1 (And a 1/2?, i lost count) hours for you guys to get into dreaming bay…..

:)

Yes, because assigning every major guild to a single borderlands to capture and hold onto isn’t tactics. Mesmer portal insertions aren’t either, no. And surely being on Mumble and coordinating with many of the other commanders did not help, either. I must just be an ignorant fool. You’re right. GoM cheats, all the way.

Wryscher.1432:

Oh Here we go. Just like in every match up that is one sided. While I am sure your plans did help and all that jazz, to take and hold almost all the maps? I’m sorry that is not out playing that is flat out out numbering.

Also I have a hard time saying GOM out played anyone when from the start of the match when GOM took SM, HOD out played us in every way possible for the next hour to take it from us. Heck at one point as the invading force HOD had more sieges built in SM in 10 minutes then we had built in the whole hour we held it.

Now don’t get me wrong I’m not trying to insult anyone, like i said I’m sure your plans helped and it never hurts to have leaders and people moving in the same direction. But you don’t get the maps to where they are now all of them 100-80% blue without a large numbers advantage.

hey, buddy! i’m not going to have to tell you that GoM has experienced nothing but what’s been happening to you the last 24 hours for over a month, am i? why do you think we’re in this tier?

I, as a lifetime player on GoM, think this could be the start of our comeback. I recently joined a mainly PvE guild and many of their top members had absolutely no idea about what happened in WvW and the large barrier to entry was always not knowing how to get to WvW, not knowing it was a thing, cause we don’t really have anyone apart from NPCs advertising and asking for help in the mist wars. Until yesterday that is, where upon my girlfriend and I logged in half expecting to still be facing AR for another week to find we had to queue to get into the Eternal Battlegrounds. Our guild members had fun, even if they just sort of stumbled into battles and would definitely give it another try again.

So yea, all we have to do is encourage people into WvW this week, show them the ropes and slowly harden them up so if we do go up a tier against BP and AR again we’ll have the numbers to do our defensive game.

The few things I think we need to work on is leaving people to actually defend and learning where to place siege weaponry, cause when we do make an attack it’s slowed down by having to pay almost triple the supply cost to try and build then fix then rebuild further back.

Just on a personal note, it wasn’t until the day before yesterday, during the last fights with AR that I actually found out how to get rewarded for defending a place from an attack. I do think we have a distinct lack of understanding across our player base. I walked a siege golem to front lines only to get out and hand it over to someone who knew how to use it, cause I did feel kinda useless despite being a walking tank.

So yeah, we need to share and talk more, I think we can totally take AR and BP and any other server if we all knew what we were doing.

GoM here. I personally think that, though GoM does seem to have more leadership right now compared to prior weeks, our tactics and strategies in ALL aspects are extremely lacking. We’d be overrun in any even-numbered matchup within a couple days, and then everyone would go back to running fractals. There’s not much “learning” going on. So unlike Overworld I’m not too confident in our future, but I’ll conceed I’m wrong if/when it happens.

Overworld.9613:

The few things I think we need to work on is leaving people to actually defend and learning where to place siege weaponry, cause when we do make an attack it’s slowed down by having to pay almost triple the supply cost to try and build then fix then rebuild further back.

Absolutely! Anyone who thinks our success is mostly attributed to “improved leadership” is full of themselves. We are winning because we have the numbers, that’s it. We really aren’t organized, we don’t have a clue how to successfully fight a proper war. Everyone just wants to join in on the zerg-fest and fight in the “next big battle” but hardly anyone wants to stay behind in the outposts and upgrade them. That’s not to say we aren’t more organized than we were last week, just saying that we have a LONG way to go before we become efficient at taking objectives and holding them. Our current defense mechanism is to call the zerg off the hunt to sweep in behind the assault team then head back on our merry way.

I know what Gates of Madness has been through, I play on the server. If you see someone with the last name Vyndral it is usually myself or my GF We are usually either flagged Sane for our own 2 person guild or PiNK if they are out in force. I usually play 1-3 hours of www a night, more over the weekends. I know it is not as much as some of you. Although I doubt I’ll be out much this week no point.

And really I wasn’t trying to start anything or insult any commanders, you guys do a great job and spend a lot of time and effort and money herding pugs like me around. Ive got a short attention span and you better have me pointed at something shiny or I am going to wander off. I throw my money into an upgrade when i can but I don’t have a lot so i usually stop spending at anything over 50 silver. Hell I still got a lot to learn. Just yesterday day I asked in chat how the game decides who takes a keep when there is a mass of people. of course no one answered so I still don’t really know.

I guess really it just rubbed me the wrong way. It so irritated me last match up when AR started posting about how good they got, and how much better all of a sudden they were. No the team that out numbered them moved up, now AR out numbered us. It is the same thing this week. AR moved up. No one left matches our numbers. Or didnt last night. every day is a new day. every server has different times it plays. Perhaps they did and don’t and will and won’t.

Viking Jorun.5413:

roostapro.9827:

Viking Jorun.5413:

Hey guys, Ferrum Blacktide here, a commander from GoM. You guys losing is not a result of outnumbering, cheating, or hacking. The commanders of GoM have been planning our comeback for the past two weeks, so thank you all for being a part of it. It really means a lot to me that so many of you guys are still being good sports about it.

PS: GoM finally learned to defend.

GoM took 1/2 the Server onto ET Borderlands and ran around like a mindless zergball…..

for example, 6(0) pool zergling all in rush = gg (SC2), 1/2 server all in rush = lost tower

Not really tactics imo, just a simple cheese, but w/e floats your boat.

Was fun fighting & killing 1/2 the zerg at the gate of Dreaming bay, Churning Earth is Op..probably the only skill useful to a D/D ele (No doubt people will complain about it….and ask for a nerf like all our other skills -.-)

anyway, here a Screenie of the GoM zerg wanting longview tower (Oh yeah, you can’t kill me when I am in this spot…)

(all that for an undefended tower? Really?……)

all in all was fun fighting you guys that it took 1 (And a 1/2?, i lost count) hours for you guys to get into dreaming bay…..

:)

Yes, because assigning every major guild to a single borderlands to capture and hold onto isn’t tactics. Mesmer portal insertions aren’t either, no. And surely being on Mumble and coordinating with many of the other commanders did not help, either. I must just be an ignorant fool. You’re right. GoM cheats, all the way.

you know, I find your reply highly amusing.

First and foremost, I didn’t say GoM was “Cheating”, you said that.

Secondly, No, (assigning every major guild) that isn’t a tactic, not really anyway, Tactics include hitting most of the towers/keeps in that particular map at the same time, rather than focusing on 1 keep, you could have gotten several within 20-30 minutes as you sent “Strike” Forces to make your opponent Stress out and send defenses over to those “Striked” Keeps making other keeps/towers/SC vulnerable to capping.

Thirdly, this is just my opinion, but i guess a lot of people agree with me, that Mindless Zergballs aren’t Tactics, true numbers>No Numbers but at the same time that is just taking advantage of culling (Why they haven’t fully fixed that in their engine, i will never know) and killing solo people with 30+Zerg infestations.

Fourth, you are an Ignorant fool, you took my post out of context, twisted it, and made it look as though I was bashing GoM for tactics (I only stated that zergballs aren’t much of a Tactic, imo.) and nor did I say GoM was cheating, In actual fact, this has to be the first matchup that I have been in and not seen any flying of weird stuff happening.

Fifth, I said I enjoyed defending Dreaming Bay, I didn’t say you cheated nor did i say i didn’t enjoy it, Even though we were Outnumbered badly, I really enjoyed it (Btw, Necro Poision AoE OP if my water is on CD :\)

Lastly, I posted that screenshot as, honestly, it was amusing to me, seeing that much invaders taking an undefended tower was quite funny to me, never seen so much invaders at a tower before XD

:)

Well this week a clan mate took advantage of the mismatch to finally get all the badges he needed for the gift. While roostapro seems bound and determined to get this thread locked for trolling and insults, his posts are clearly positively charged and not at all bitter. He is trying to spread holiday cheer, expressing amusement at poor tactics used during a week when it doesn’t matter because his server has no chance. He puts a smiley at the end of his posts, after all.

:)

Eviator.9746:

Well this week a clan mate took advantage of the mismatch to finally get all the badges he needed for the gift. While roostapro seems bound and determined to get this thread locked for trolling and insults, his posts are clearly positively charged and not at all bitter. He is trying to spread holiday cheer, expressing amusement at poor tactics used during a week when it doesn’t matter because his server has no chance. He puts a smiley at the end of his posts, after all.

:)

trolling & Insulting? HAH! yeah right.

your the one trolling me & Insulting me.

Obviously, you have had training on being a Forum Warrior, and you obviously get kicks out of insulting others.

you know what? you just represented GoM in a Nutshell.

well done, claps for you.

Seriously, If all GoM members are like this guy and insults people & other servers saying “We have No chance” then you have just lost my respect.

as I said in previous post before this idiot showed up, I stated my opinion on the Zerg, even said I enjoyed it, even if outnumbered, and I didn’t mean to “Insult” GoM at all.

but with this guy just posting what he said, I have lost my respect towards GoM.

true, it may be 1 person in a whole server, but what he said about my server “Having No Chance” is beyond insulting.

Obviously, when helping out other servers, Applauding them for their effort or just simply stating my opinion and you get it throwing back in your face is highly disappointing and makes me not want to applaud servers and makes me lose respect to those servers.

Oh well, of to kill for badges.

looking forward to seeing you on the battlefield Evaithor, so I can burst dps you so you altf4 out.

:)

GOM here. I knew this matchup would be like this. GOM has apparently has alot of fair weather players, that dont help us when we actually need the numbers. I dont PVE all i do is PVP and this matchup is stupid. Im not even really playing this week because it is so boring. And the worst part is we should not have droped in tier if we have these numbers.

And too all the GOM players, Please quit your bragging of how good we are and that we a back. Gom still needs alot of work.

Sihkster.7948:

GOM here. I knew this matchup would be like this. GOM has apparently has alot of fair weather players, that dont help us when we actually need the numbers. I dont PVE all i do is PVP and this matchup is stupid. Im not even really playing this week because it is so boring. And the worst part is we should not have droped in tier if we have these numbers.

And too all the GOM players, Please quit your bragging of how good we are and that we a back. Gom still needs alot of work.

GOM needs nothing but dedication and common sense. and some numbers. anything beyond that is trying a bit hard.

I can’t speak for ET, but as a HoD player, well, beating us is not anything special.

I looked up scores from previous matches from http://mos.millenium.org/matchups and the furthest back they have match scores, the oct13 match, we lost 154k to 346k. Every other match since then, the wining team has had no less than six times our score, thirty six times in the worst case. That is over two months of pure utter crushing defeat, and an unbalanced broken WvW.

We’ve been bleeding players every single week in part due to the poor morale and terrible match balance. You can call them fair weather players, but I simply cannot blame anyone who leaves looking for a functional, playable WvW match. We feel it impacts the rest of the game, in poor PvE bonuses, and from a lower population, but the true impact is hard to gauge.

I was hoping our race to the bottom had ended, but alas. Maybe when we finally hit rock bottom, we’ll have a halfway decent match, maybe I’ll actually be able to see us take and hold something substantial off our borderlands.

Fatali.4819:

I can’t speak for ET, but as a HoD player, well, beating us is not anything special.

I looked up scores from previous matches from http://mos.millenium.org/matchups and the furthest back they have match scores, the oct13 match, we lost 154k to 346k. Every other match since then, the wining team has had no less than six times our score, thirty six times in the worst case. That is over two months of pure utter crushing defeat, and an unbalanced broken WvW.

We’ve been bleeding players every single week in part due to the poor morale and terrible match balance. You can call them fair weather players, but I simply cannot blame anyone who leaves looking for a functional, playable WvW match. We feel it impacts the rest of the game, in poor PvE bonuses, and from a lower population, but the true impact is hard to gauge.

I was hoping our race to the bottom had ended, but alas. Maybe when we finally hit rock bottom, we’ll have a halfway decent match, maybe I’ll actually be able to see us take and hold something substantial off our borderlands.

I’m pretty sure the masses who were going to leave, have left. It’s down to the brass tacks now man and those of us who are actively out there fighting have pretty high moral. We know the only thing counted against us in numbers and can aquit ourselves well in battle until we’re eventually overun by the waves and waves of folks sent against us. I doubt we drop into the final tier, if only because they are evenly matched and we’re still slightly better then them. One of the T6 servers will have their own exodus and end up sharing T7 with us and then we’ll have the more even matches. Until then… well we can just keep fighting as well as we can.

Aratoa.7398:

Fatali.4819:

I can’t speak for ET, but as a HoD player, well, beating us is not anything special.

I looked up scores from previous matches from http://mos.millenium.org/matchups and the furthest back they have match scores, the oct13 match, we lost 154k to 346k. Every other match since then, the wining team has had no less than six times our score, thirty six times in the worst case. That is over two months of pure utter crushing defeat, and an unbalanced broken WvW.

We’ve been bleeding players every single week in part due to the poor morale and terrible match balance. You can call them fair weather players, but I simply cannot blame anyone who leaves looking for a functional, playable WvW match. We feel it impacts the rest of the game, in poor PvE bonuses, and from a lower population, but the true impact is hard to gauge.

I was hoping our race to the bottom had ended, but alas. Maybe when we finally hit rock bottom, we’ll have a halfway decent match, maybe I’ll actually be able to see us take and hold something substantial off our borderlands.

I’m pretty sure the masses who were going to leave, have left. It’s down to the brass tacks now man and those of us who are actively out there fighting have pretty high moral. We know the only thing counted against us in numbers and can aquit ourselves well in battle until we’re eventually overun by the waves and waves of folks sent against us. I doubt we drop into the final tier, if only because they are evenly matched and we’re still slightly better then them. One of the T6 servers will have their own exodus and end up sharing T7 with us and then we’ll have the more even matches. Until then… well we can just keep fighting as well as we can.

if we had these numbers last week you wouldn’t be fighting us.

Lightsbane.9012:

Aratoa.7398:

Fatali.4819:

I can’t speak for ET, but as a HoD player, well, beating us is not anything special.

I looked up scores from previous matches from http://mos.millenium.org/matchups and the furthest back they have match scores, the oct13 match, we lost 154k to 346k. Every other match since then, the wining team has had no less than six times our score, thirty six times in the worst case. That is over two months of pure utter crushing defeat, and an unbalanced broken WvW.

We’ve been bleeding players every single week in part due to the poor morale and terrible match balance. You can call them fair weather players, but I simply cannot blame anyone who leaves looking for a functional, playable WvW match. We feel it impacts the rest of the game, in poor PvE bonuses, and from a lower population, but the true impact is hard to gauge.

I was hoping our race to the bottom had ended, but alas. Maybe when we finally hit rock bottom, we’ll have a halfway decent match, maybe I’ll actually be able to see us take and hold something substantial off our borderlands.

I’m pretty sure the masses who were going to leave, have left. It’s down to the brass tacks now man and those of us who are actively out there fighting have pretty high moral. We know the only thing counted against us in numbers and can aquit ourselves well in battle until we’re eventually overun by the waves and waves of folks sent against us. I doubt we drop into the final tier, if only because they are evenly matched and we’re still slightly better then them. One of the T6 servers will have their own exodus and end up sharing T7 with us and then we’ll have the more even matches. Until then… well we can just keep fighting as well as we can.

if we had these numbers last week you wouldn’t be fighting us.

Well send some of them over to us so we can even this sucker out. XD

Aratoa.7398:

I’m pretty sure the masses who were going to leave, have left. It’s down to the brass tacks now man and those of us who are actively out there fighting have pretty high moral.

This is exactly how I see it. Those of us who are out there in HoD every night know what the deal is. I imagine the folks over at ET are in pretty much the same boat. We’ve known what the deal is for the past two months while we’ve been falling down the ladder. I doubt we’re shedding more at this point, those of us who are still here want a fight.

Second: Anyone who tells me we’re not losing the numbers game just has no clue what we’re walking out against every night. Even on our BL, except for at peak hours, they manage to have 2 large groups the size of our main force running around, while we try and usually successfully, play whack-a-mole on the towers and keeps we hold. That’s not tactics, that’s not strategy, that’s numbers. Player-for-Player we hold our own and then some.

Well it was super fun defending ET Garrison all day with our folks today against wave after wave of invaders, but alas real life calls. Hope we keep up our effort level.

Well done on the defend of Longview and garrison .
I must say vondi really did a good job at garrison overseeing the upgrades and coordinating the defense .
I really wish I could spend more time fighting with these die hard warriors of ET but real life have many commitment to fulfill.
Nonetheless , good job defending Longview with the 4 arrowcart 10 hrs ago.
I really starting to love engineer and their flamethrowers. Good for burning enemies and rams behind the gate. Lol.

I’m surprised at the hate we’re getting against GoM. Those of you that think we just zerg around are inherintly wrong. Every time I see us losing ground I contact a major WvW guild and tell them to take the southern and northern supply camps of a keep and then strike. We’ve build fake siege to make you guys think we’re assaulting your garrison when in reality we’ve got 5 guys taking down a wall with 6 catapults. I’m not going to tell you it isn’t a numbers game, but I am here to tell you that we don’t mindlessly zerg around. You obviously haven’t seen me call in a mesmer portal insertion to diffuse one of your zergs and drive you all the way back to your Borderlands spawn.

Sincerely,
GoM

As for HoD, I’m pleasently surprised at the WvW spirit you guys have. I’ve learned a few tricks for defending supply camps from you guys thanks to the few of you with beating hearts for WvW. Keep it up. I enjoy every fight we have against you. I’ve learned a trick or two to getting past most of your defenses that aren’t on a wall or behind a gate, though. You might want to start bunkering your siege in open world situations.

ET – Please stop whining about us having way more than you. While this may be true there have been several fights against your people in which we’ve been outnumbered and still driven you back. That 30-person zerg on our north keep in EB yesterday? That was 3 people defending it with superior arrow carts.

Have a nice day everyone!

@viking, ET warriors whinning? No ideal where that came from.
I went to Eb with 10 -12 players 12 hrs ago, we tried and took some supply camps and towers while we were there. We got push back to spawn later but that was all fun , no 1 was whinning about anything except making plans to assault the towers and camp again.
( side note: I love that naked thief running around in Eb, that was really funny)
No whinning from us my friend , good or bad we fight. There’s nothing to whine about anyway. :)

Leogolas.6941:

@viking, ET warriors whinning? No ideal where that came from.
I went to Eb with 10 -12 players 12 hrs ago, we tried and took some supply camps and towers while we were there. We got push back to spawn later but that was all fun , no 1 was whinning about anything except making plans to assault the towers and camp again.
( side note: I love that naked thief running around in Eb, that was really funny)
No whinning from us my friend , good or bad we fight. There’s nothing to whine about anyway.

Haha that’s awesome! No, I’m referring to both HoD and ET and the few people who have come on the forums saying we’re cheaters and outnumbering everyone, etc. I’m glad to see you guys are still having fun. I really enjoy fighting you guys. Just back off for a minute or two so I can finally get a screenshot of when GoM has 100% of the map, then take as much as you’d like

ASH guild folk are hot stuff.

Viking Jorun.5413:

Leogolas.6941:

@viking, ET warriors whinning? No ideal where that came from.
I went to Eb with 10 -12 players 12 hrs ago, we tried and took some supply camps and towers while we were there. We got push back to spawn later but that was all fun , no 1 was whinning about anything except making plans to assault the towers and camp again.
( side note: I love that naked thief running around in Eb, that was really funny)
No whinning from us my friend , good or bad we fight. There’s nothing to whine about anyway.

Haha that’s awesome! No, I’m referring to both HoD and ET and the few people who have come on the forums saying we’re cheaters and outnumbering everyone, etc. I’m glad to see you guys are still having fun. I really enjoy fighting you guys. Just back off for a minute or two so I can finally get a screenshot of when GoM has 100% of the map, then take as much as you’d like

Lol viking .Request denied .
GOM wants a full blue map, you guys got to push really reallly hard for it.

Also, we were using transformation tonics. That is why we all looked the same. It was also why the so called “bots” didn’t attack you, no skills while tranformed.

So to sum up: tonics + /dance *

I want to know how HoD is placing trebs north of Cragtop where siege deployment is blocked :P

Viking Jorun.5413:

I want to know how HoD is placing trebs north of Cragtop where siege deployment is blocked :P

Its not blocked.

I’m not usually one for show-boating, but that was kitten hilarious.

TxJBxT.9370:

Viking Jorun.5413:

I want to know how HoD is placing trebs north of Cragtop where siege deployment is blocked :P

Its not blocked.

Then why is your siege invulnerable and under the effect of determined? It makes it impossible to hold onto Cragtop for more than a matter of minutes.

Viking Jorun.5413:

TxJBxT.9370:

Viking Jorun.5413:

I want to know how HoD is placing trebs north of Cragtop where siege deployment is blocked :P

Its not blocked.

Then why is your siege invulnerable and under the effect of determined? It makes it impossible to hold onto Cragtop for more than a matter of minutes.

Take a screen shot of where it was at on your BL.