Guild Wars 2

SFShinigami.2015:

Over on SF mumble we had quite a good laugh about a certain guild that shall remain nameless and their inability to adapt after this fix. It was hilarious to just kind of watch them get steamrolled because they couldn’t hide behind culling anymore.

Great 3 way in bay over on BGBL, I saw quite a few SF tags so I’m guessing you were there.

Someone on JQ or SOR contact me in EB. I want to test the new XP system.

You get a free kill.

GekoHayate.2451:

SFShinigami.2015:

Over on SF mumble we had quite a good laugh about a certain guild that shall remain nameless and their inability to adapt after this fix. It was hilarious to just kind of watch them get steamrolled because they couldn’t hide behind culling anymore.

Great 3 way in bay over on BGBL, I saw quite a few SF tags so I’m guessing you were there.

I missed whatever fight happened in Bay. I was at class earlier tonight and got on just a little before the SoR/JQ sammiching of BG in garrison and then had to log around the point we bailed out of it. I wasn’t in that battle a whole lot either because I was silly and chose to play my grenade engie on a night that I should have realized would be plagued by skill lag and using ground targeted, non seeking projectiles is about the worst build possible for that situation.

Great fights in bay in BGBL. We wanted to flip hills SOR, but after you kept hitting garrison, so double team for you, and you lost your waypoint.

Next time be sensitive to the 2v1 like JQ was. :P

globe.7238:

Diehard.1432:

And SoR said they only field 25 players max…rofl

Looks like 25 to me

Yep 25! Didn’t take one when BG showed up a few seconds later (from the left) with similar number. Amazing three way battle for awhile though. Think I died getting greedy or we pushed and got flanked… don’t really care simply cos it’s nice to actually be able to see people, or in most cases a sea of nameplates!

Murderin.8269:

Someone on JQ or SOR contact me in EB. I want to test the new XP system.

You get a free kill.

Didn’t think it would be so hard to find someone to kill me.

Score Update for those of you no at home :P

Did you know that it’s a weekday? And that it’s currently oceanic primetime? And that JQ is actually outmanned on not one but two borderlands? And that SoR and BG could totally field these kinds of numbers every day but for some reason they dont and that makes me really sad because the fights have been awesome so far? Because these are all trufax.

And the smooth new sounds listening to the calming, more mellow HB 102.3 FM

BG outmanned at all hours!

Miiaah.5416:

And the smooth new sounds listening to the calming, more mellow HB 102.3 FM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTvyM_vfCVM

I think this is the first video of Blackgate action that I participated in where I can actually find my character. A fitting coincidence for the first day without culling!

Score Update from BG and JQ Friends!

Be lovers not haters! <3

One for the Ladies.

GekoHayate.2451:

SFShinigami.2015:

Over on SF mumble we had quite a good laugh about a certain guild that shall remain nameless and their inability to adapt after this fix. It was hilarious to just kind of watch them get steamrolled because they couldn’t hide behind culling anymore.

Great 3 way in bay over on BGBL, I saw quite a few SF tags so I’m guessing you were there.

Definitely a great fight there. There were quite a few of us on BGBL.

Victor.7354:

GekoHayate.2451:

SFShinigami.2015:

Over on SF mumble we had quite a good laugh about a certain guild that shall remain nameless and their inability to adapt after this fix. It was hilarious to just kind of watch them get steamrolled because they couldn’t hide behind culling anymore.

Great 3 way in bay over on BGBL, I saw quite a few SF tags so I’m guessing you were there.

Definitely a great fight there. There were quite a few of us on BGBL.

Vic, I’m sure our main force only had 15 though right?! (love you TW, totally wrong).

FYI folks… when other servers are running in a single zerg-ball, havoc for PvP is rather boring, but you get plenty of wxp flipping stuff and have a much easier time avoiding folks now that you can actually see them. I was only online for 1-2hours last night on BGBL and counted 5-6 times where the Choo Train was spotted a mile away and caused us no difficulty.

In regards to wxp though… yay… pvp bonuses that dont increase my pvp abilities, lol.

Renny.6571:

Nuked.2360:

BG outmanned at all hours!

Ah, so you’re that one thief who decided he’d try to one man our force as we capped the camp.

Also, here’s JQ’s super-skilled 10 man party because I can take screenshots too.

I wasn’t trying to stop the force I wanted a picture of the “outmanned” BG zerg. Also I was in that fight as well you guys had equal numbers.

Time for another score update!

Stop the hating everyone!

Just <3 from the LOVE asura!

Renny.6571:

Nuked.2360:

Also I was in that fight as well you guys had equal numbers.

Until FoO arrived, that is. :x

70 people vs 70 people while you have spawn advantage is pretty even numbers if you ask me. Even if foo had 10 or so more you had spawn advantage you should have won.

even numbers

15char

celeron.3469:

even numbers

15char

Probably closer in numbers than you think after counting all those green dots. People just see a sea of red and instantly think they have a 9000 man zerg.

Burl.9567:

celeron.3469:

even numbers

15char

Probably closer in numbers than you think after counting all those green dots. People just see a sea of red and instantly think they have a 9000 man zerg.

Of coarse, you guys only had 40. That’s what I said.

I dont understand BG.

You’re putting your largest SEA guild on EB while left lesser number guild to fight FoO, Then you’re complaining in forum ?

Try to switch back to ND/Merc vs FoO like the 1st day Ex-SoS guild arrive on BG ?

celeron.3469:

Burl.9567:

celeron.3469:

even numbers

15char

Probably closer in numbers than you think after counting all those green dots. People just see a sea of red and instantly think they have a 9000 man zerg.

Of coarse, you guys only had 40. That’s what I said.

I’m not on JQ…

Hint MERC veil does not have the desired effect anymore you might want to stop using it when you push out portals. Just some advice.

Well this is fun and new! I call it the SoR has no Oceanic/Sea coverage error. Strangely I had zero issues fighting larger fights on other maps, must be SM Glob-o-name-tags error.

By the way for people that have troubles uploading videos to Youtube, try something called Handbrake, it’s a go between encoder that seems to take video and convert it for a better 1080P upload to youtube

Burl.9567:

celeron.3469:

Burl.9567:

celeron.3469:

even numbers

15char

Probably closer in numbers than you think after counting all those green dots. People just see a sea of red and instantly think they have a 9000 man zerg.

Of coarse, you guys only had 40. That’s what I said.

I’m not on JQ…

Then that explains why I had to reply, they had 2x our numbers. That’s normal for JQ, just we can finally take screenshots of it to prove it. They apparently “need SEA” still.

Renny.6571:

muekung.2518:

Try to switch back to ND/Merc vs FoO like the 1st day Ex-SoS guild arrive on BG ?

Yes, lets lose our assets because FoO aren’t satisfied with their fights. We stretch what forces we have to maintain a stable ppt.

Nuked.2360:

Hint MERC veil does not have the desired effect anymore you might want to stop using it when you push out portals. Just some advice.

Veil doesn’t make us invisible to you for 4 seconds anymore? :O

Its that 4 seconds but coming out a portal we can see you as soon as invis ends now not another 3-4 seconds later but if you don’t understand why this tactic worked you might be a lost cause.

celeron.3469:

Burl.9567:

celeron.3469:

Burl.9567:

celeron.3469:

even numbers

15char

Probably closer in numbers than you think after counting all those green dots. People just see a sea of red and instantly think they have a 9000 man zerg.

Of coarse, you guys only had 40. That’s what I said.

I’m not on JQ…

Then that explains why I had to reply, they had 2x our numbers. That’s normal for JQ, just we can finally take screenshots of it to prove it. They apparently “need SEA” still.

I count you having about 35 if you count all the dots and the folks around you. Sorry, you can’t excuse bad play for being outgunned.

Renny.6571:

Nuked.2360:

Its that 4 seconds but coming out a portal we can see you as soon as invis ends now not another 3-4 seconds later but if you don’t understand why this tactic worked you might be a lost cause.

We never intended our veil use to abuse culling. It’s primary purpose to our commanders is to hide our movement and delay the preemptive buttonmash aoe killzone you guys establish so well.

Intended or not, it was what won fights…. time to adapt or die for many guilds like yours and Choo.

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnd Just cause I can.

Update of the Map

Kirito.8796:

Burl.9567:

celeron.3469:

Burl.9567:

celeron.3469:

Burl.9567:

celeron.3469:

even numbers

15char

Probably closer in numbers than you think after counting all those green dots. People just see a sea of red and instantly think they have a 9000 man zerg.

Of coarse, you guys only had 40. That’s what I said.

I’m not on JQ…

Then that explains why I had to reply, they had 2x our numbers. That’s normal for JQ, just we can finally take screenshots of it to prove it. They apparently “need SEA” still.

I count you having about 35 if you count all the dots and the folks around you. Sorry, you can’t excuse bad play for being outgunned.

funny as the JQ zerg was about 60+

Now it is 60+?? He told me they only had 40. You BG need to get your stories straight before posting on the boards.

Renny.6571:

Talentless.5708:

Intended or not, it was what won fights…. time to adapt or die for many guilds like yours and Choo.

We are adapting. Just because culling has been removed doesn’t mean 4 seconds of your entire zerg being invisible instantly loses it’s strategic value, lol. I guess I can understand why you think it has though…

No one is saying the value is gone, it’s just been cut in half – your guild has been nerfed. Everyone has to consider the removal of culling now. I cant speak for the main SF zerg, but from what I saw during NA primetime they helped control BGBL quite well… and that was with Jedbacca screwing around in my havoc crew while our junior ROTC commanders were running the map.

Glad to see everyone on the other maps got some nice action. The SoR BL was just every group going against us doing an about face and running the other direction after being spotted.

What used to happen:

No enemies in sight due to culling. Then, just as they were about to come in range, they used Veil and had 8 seconds to roll up unseen. Then the lag of rendering hit. Success!

What happens now:

We see you at range well before you use veil. We see you lay down veil. We move out of the way. You ‘disappear’ for 4 seconds, but we know exactly where you were, are and are going. Failure.

Veil still works, but we can see you before you use veil now. I see you from very far away. Maybe you need to practice using 15 veils in a row so that we can’t see you before you veil again?

hex.3218:

What used to happen:

No enemies in sight due to culling. Then, just as they were about to come in range, they used Veil and had 8 seconds to roll up unseen. Then the lag of rendering hit. Success!

What happens now:

We see you at range well before you use veil. We see you lay down veil. We move out of the way. You ‘disappear’ for 4 seconds, but we know exactly where you were, are and are going. Failure.

Veil still works, but we can see you before you use veil now. I see you from very far away. Maybe you need to practice using 15 veils in a row so that we can’t see you before you veil again?

I’m fairly certain that all guilds need to adjust to these issues. This isn’t just one guild doing it.

So lets move on to another topic…. <3

Edit:

Score Update Attached for those interested! <3

wish.3102:

Synyster.5894:

What to do hmmm..

That first SS is epic, I love this new patch.

Your zerg ball is so big, it takes 2 commander tags to keep them from drowning in the sea of green dots.
I have yet to see the 40-70 man open field BG zerg ball ss though.

fragnstein.3486:

wish.3102:

Synyster.5894:

What to do hmmm..

That first SS is epic, I love this new patch.

Your zerg ball is so big, it takes 2 commander tags to keep them from drowning in the sea of green dots.
I have yet to see the 40-70 man open field BG zerg ball ss though.

No! Only happy times here!

Here look at this calming picture! Just for you!

The massive fights have been hella fun, I don’t give a kitten if everyone was zerging, it was a great way to see just what happens when slamming in to things I think at one point in time I rushed our team in to a choke filled with a ton of SoR inside of bay when I was leading for a few minutes. Everyone laughed, Jed strikes again with murdering innocent citizens of SF+JQ

I want to also let everyone know that running Havoc is definitely still viable. If you are out there trying to get wvw experience, cap the nodes, they are worth 75 points, roadmen are worth like 38 and dolyaks are worth 19. Camps are worth a pretty decent sized chunk as well. I don’t know if it changes when you are in a large group or not yet, but that’s what we were popping off in our 5 man.

I actually recommend all of your guilds on other servers to stay as one big zerg ball so I can back cap things with a smaller team while you stay occupied with our main team. It will make that teams job a lot easier when they are trying to level up their wvw skills. Thank you for your cooperation and watch the backsides of your holdings

Pretty sad to see this behaviour from some SoR people. The fact that it is a commander doing this kind of thing just makes me frown…

Nuked.2360:

Hint MERC veil does not have the desired effect anymore you might want to stop using it when you push out portals. Just some advice.

Oh man I hadn’t realised that, how stupid I thought that going through a veil cloaked you for 4 seconds and while you were doing that you could feign a push, misdirect which way you are actually going or feigning a retreat. I hadn’t realised that the patch that we had been anticipating for a while had actually come and the reason why we use veils is actually tactically sound.

Shock horror there is actually a use for veils outside of abusing culling, we will cry into our pillows at how silly we are. But seriously, think about what you type before you type it or you just sound ill-informed. You need those kinda tactics when you are facing a map-capped enemy when you aren’t pop capped.

Strangely there is tactics in this game other than running into towers and keeps at the first sign of red, who’d have thunk it.

btw, I am using sarcasm to emphasise that your post was stupid. Hope you caught that and if not, vishnu save us all.

Don’t mind Stei, your reply right now is raising his trollometer to a higher level. The fact that you just acknowledged him trolling your guild just gave him a +1.

Jedbacca.6297:

Don’t mind Stei, your reply right now is raising his trollometer to a higher level. The fact that you just acknowledged him trolling your guild just gave him a +1.

Yeah I know, but at least now I know what his character model looks like in-game so we can express openly what we think of forum warriors/trolls. Especailly when we’re being scouted by him lol. Anyway, it was fun fighting SF + DC at bay but honestly after the following fight at woodhaven I needed to log – just to kitten late. Nice use of arrowcarts though, probably could be more effective with leg specialist. See you next time.

Tarkus.4109:

Nuked.2360:

Hint MERC veil does not have the desired effect anymore you might want to stop using it when you push out portals. Just some advice.

Oh man I hadn’t realised that, how stupid I thought that going through a veil cloaked you for 4 seconds and while you were doing that you could feign a push, misdirect which way you are actually going or feigning a retreat. I hadn’t realised that the patch that we had been anticipating for a while had actually come and the reason why we use veils is actually tactically sound.

Shock horror there is actually a use for veils outside of abusing culling, we will cry into our pillows at how silly we are. But seriously, think about what you type before you type it or you just sound ill-informed. You need those kinda tactics when you are facing a map-capped enemy when you aren’t pop capped.

Strangely there is tactics in this game other than running into towers and keeps at the first sign of red, who’d have thunk it.

btw, I am using sarcasm to emphasise that your post was stupid. Hope you caught that and if not, vishnu save us all.

come on,MERC ,come to fight FoO, i beg you!! dont go to other BL after 3 wipe every day

^haha. Merc is FoO’s bff

WRod.3856:

^haha. Merc is FoO’s bff

To be honest I would’ve quit GW2 a long time ago if it wasn’t for FoO, they are at least fun to fight in open field and to be honest I’m only really in it for the fights. Admidedly when we’re down on numbers and have low support we do wipe a lot to FoO + DC +PuGs etc, but that is more an indication of numbers over skill. FoO is a very skilled opponent and when we have equal forces I would say that the fights are relatively even (relatively). <3 FoO, keep trucking we just get better and try to be better every night.

Tarkus.4109:

WRod.3856:

^haha. Merc is FoO’s bff

To be honest I would’ve quit GW2 a long time ago if it wasn’t for FoO, they are at least fun to fight in open field and to be honest I’m only really in it for the fights. Admidedly when we’re down on numbers and have low support we do wipe a lot to FoO + DC +PuGs etc, but that is more an indication of numbers over skill. FoO is a very skilled opponent and when we have equal forces I would say that the fights are relatively even (relatively). <3 FoO, keep trucking we just get better and try to be better every night.

Thats good to hear. Its good that you guys don’t talk crap to each other too. Friendly rivalry is always fun. Just like SF and Agg.

Tarkus.4109:

WRod.3856:

^haha. Merc is FoO’s bff

To be honest I would’ve quit GW2 a long time ago if it wasn’t for FoO, they are at least fun to fight in open field and to be honest I’m only really in it for the fights. Admidedly when we’re down on numbers and have low support we do wipe a lot to FoO + DC +PuGs etc, but that is more an indication of numbers over skill. FoO is a very skilled opponent and when we have equal forces I would say that the fights are relatively even (relatively). <3 FoO, keep trucking we just get better and try to be better every night.

you know MERC is BG’s main SEA force?why dont you face FoO?

veil wasn’t as powerful before they took out culling since it just adds a patch of FOW to a huge patch of FOW anyway. Now it’s one of the only temporary FOW in play.

you see people displace more since culling fix. Before those were places of unknown, under frog of war (no-render) and displacing into places without knowing what’s there was just too much a gamble.

frontline tactics on a medium-large scale is basically a new thing to WVW. nice change indeed.

After the pack, wvw becomes pointless zerg v zerg

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