Guild Wars 2

Gamadorn.2659:

I guess it sucks to know that when DB guilds NA and SEA put their game face on…you guys can’t compete in any timezone, including reset or N/A primetime..but seriously great job this weekend..

If by game-face you mean ultra super mega zergs, then…yes.

Is that a new generation of zergs, or just a new transformation? Does that mean if we believe in the power of friendship we can achieve that level too?

Puddin Cheeks.8539:

The Cross-Eyed Norn says, “No Sweat!”

Yeah mag chest thumping about taking their hills back is precious. We defended at least 10 failed repeated attempts from you guys. Including 4 attempts and glitch cat splashing the sw wall, then all the trebs you guys lost at stargrove. The golem rush must have happened as soon as I logged off, we expected it much sooner than that.

It would also be hard to farm bags off us when you are not even scratching our walls, but its your tall tale to make up whatever you like.

I dont even know where you see us chest thumping EA put up a great defence.

also dont complain about us cat splashing the sw wall cuze ur SEA does that to us too.
not only do they do that, they also use the camera glitch to AC stuff behind gate/dragontooth our siege behind gates.

do we ask how much gold your SEA crew spend everyday on trebs and golems and cata/rams? no…

so lets end this with gj on defending hills EA is very good at it and lets move on

Gamadorn.2659:

I guess it sucks to know that when DB guilds NA and SEA put their game face on…you guys can’t compete in any timezone, including reset or N/A primetime..but seriously great job this weekend..

Lolwut, reset was back and forth. YB had the lead 1 hour in and we had it again 5 hours in. There was no clear leader throughout.

DB NA gets the table set for them every morning, full upgrades and paper on opponents BL and still usually lose NA.

Mag we only have a little over twice your score…go go go.

And as far as a clear leader…

Vi Au.8341:

do we ask how much gold your SEA crew spend everyday on trebs and golems and cata/rams? no…

Cant speak for all SEA of course, but as someone who runs a lot at that time, only with MG and YB in T3 can we consistently get piles of seige every night without fail from the jp, and we tend to donate the thousands of seige drops across the hundreds of SEA players every night to our WvW-ers… I’m sure some spend money to buy seige, but we definitely get loads and loads of seige every night from EB jp courtesy of YB and MG… if nothing else for that reason alone I wish YB and MG will be our opponents for many more weeks – need to stock pile those thousands of Badges from the jp chest for the new Ascended gear that is supposed to be available with badges… whenever that may be /shrug

Pendragon.8735:

Gamadorn.2659:

I guess it sucks to know that when DB guilds NA and SEA put their game face on…you guys can’t compete in any timezone, including reset or N/A primetime..but seriously great job this weekend..

Lolwut, reset was back and forth. YB had the lead 1 hour in and we had it again 5 hours in. There was no clear leader throughout.

DB NA gets the table set for them every morning, full upgrades and paper on opponents BL and still usually lose NA.

A few big DB NA guilds don’t play on reset. Also, we took the lead about 2hours in on reset night and have been pulling ahead ever since.

Don’t really understand how people can say the DB NA is lackluster when we’ve held our towers and keeps better than both Yak’s and Mag on NA prime time.

I mean, if Mag and Yaks have a bigger, better, badder NA, then why are we constantly taking their stuff towers, beating their zergs and preventing them from taking our towers every evening when the Oceanic guilds aren’t on..hmm

Excuses.

Richard Nixon.6573:

Friendly reminder to everyone on DB- we know what it’s like to lose. Don’t be “that guy” that shoves the win in the loser’s face.

That being said, have had quite a bit of fun this week. Sad to see Mags and Yaks not as strong as previous weeks, whether it be because our increased morale or their decreased morale. Regardless, hope you guys can continue to put up a good fight for the rest of the week <3

Yeah, I know. Moving up to Tier 2 would be a complete game changer. I love our matchups with Mags and Yak. They are tough players, no gimmes.

Slomoshun.6317:

Pendragon.8735:

Gamadorn.2659:

I guess it sucks to know that when DB guilds NA and SEA put their game face on…you guys can’t compete in any timezone, including reset or N/A primetime..but seriously great job this weekend..

Lolwut, reset was back and forth. YB had the lead 1 hour in and we had it again 5 hours in. There was no clear leader throughout.

DB NA gets the table set for them every morning, full upgrades and paper on opponents BL and still usually lose NA.

A few big DB NA guilds don’t play on reset. Also, we took the lead about 2hours in on reset night and have been pulling ahead ever since.

Don’t really understand how people can say the DB NA is lackluster when we’ve held our towers and keeps better than both Yak’s and Mag on NA prime time.

I mean, if Mag and Yaks have a bigger, better, badder NA, then why are we constantly taking their stuff towers, beating their zergs and preventing them from taking our towers every evening when the Oceanic guilds aren’t on..hmm

Excuses.

Technically, Mag is the only server with extreme NA prime population on this matchup, since a considerable amount of WvW players at YB are South Americans and they go to sleep several hours before NA, even on reset. In fact, guilds like [CL] can only play reset for 3 hours or so before their oficial raids ends, after that, their numbers drops and they just become pugs.

The question is not if DB’s NA is lackluster or not, the question is why Mag can’t just paint the whole maps of their color since they have twice the numbers of YB and DB after 3 or 4 hours of the reset and during the same time frame the whole week.

uhm maybe it cuze yak is playing for second and DB is playing for first… so we get hit from both side…. nothing we can do about it

santi.7516:

Slomoshun.6317:

Pendragon.8735:

Gamadorn.2659:

I guess it sucks to know that when DB guilds NA and SEA put their game face on…you guys can’t compete in any timezone, including reset or N/A primetime..but seriously great job this weekend..

Lolwut, reset was back and forth. YB had the lead 1 hour in and we had it again 5 hours in. There was no clear leader throughout.

DB NA gets the table set for them every morning, full upgrades and paper on opponents BL and still usually lose NA.

A few big DB NA guilds don’t play on reset. Also, we took the lead about 2hours in on reset night and have been pulling ahead ever since.

Don’t really understand how people can say the DB NA is lackluster when we’ve held our towers and keeps better than both Yak’s and Mag on NA prime time.

I mean, if Mag and Yaks have a bigger, better, badder NA, then why are we constantly taking their stuff towers, beating their zergs and preventing them from taking our towers every evening when the Oceanic guilds aren’t on..hmm

Excuses.

Technically, Mag is the only server with extreme NA prime population on this matchup, since a considerable amount of WvW players at YB are South Americans and they go to sleep several hours before NA, even on reset. In fact, guilds like [CL] can only play reset for 3 hours or so before their oficial raids ends, after that, their numbers drops and they just become pugs.

The question is not if DB’s NA is lackluster or not, the question is why Mag can’t just paint the whole maps of their color since they have twice the numbers of YB and DB after 3 or 4 hours of the reset and during the whole week.

Why did it take DB several hours to take YBBL Hills last night when they outnumbered PYRO and company 3:1? Why is there only one word that rhymes with orange? Why does DB grandstand and ask stupid questions? If a clerk at a butcher’s shop stands at 5 ft. 11 in. and wears size 12 sneakers. What does he weigh!?!?!?

Who knows, who cares? I guess I’ll assume it’s because they’re terrible.

Drivel drivel drivel drivel drivel. Poppykitten. Lol DB’s crazy.

Oh, and on a more serious note. The 3 people that posted from DB that weren’t boasting and denying the coverage imbalance, cheers! You seem like scholars and gentlemen!

EDIT: ANET is also crazy, for poppykitten is not a bad word. Stupid auto censor.

^^ Chuck Norris approves of this post.

SmoothHussler.6387:

^^ Chuck Norris approves of this post.

Chuck Norris plays on DB

To the [SoL] Mags players who danced with me near Victor’s Lodge… thanks And sorry that my friends used you as training practice. My toon cried.

santi.7516:

Slomoshun.6317:

Pendragon.8735:

Gamadorn.2659:

I guess it sucks to know that when DB guilds NA and SEA put their game face on…you guys can’t compete in any timezone, including reset or N/A primetime..but seriously great job this weekend..

Lolwut, reset was back and forth. YB had the lead 1 hour in and we had it again 5 hours in. There was no clear leader throughout.

DB NA gets the table set for them every morning, full upgrades and paper on opponents BL and still usually lose NA.

A few big DB NA guilds don’t play on reset. Also, we took the lead about 2hours in on reset night and have been pulling ahead ever since.

Don’t really understand how people can say the DB NA is lackluster when we’ve held our towers and keeps better than both Yak’s and Mag on NA prime time.

I mean, if Mag and Yaks have a bigger, better, badder NA, then why are we constantly taking their stuff towers, beating their zergs and preventing them from taking our towers every evening when the Oceanic guilds aren’t on..hmm

Excuses.

Technically, Mag is the only server with extreme NA prime population on this matchup, since a considerable amount of WvW players at YB are South Americans and they go to sleep several hours before NA, even on reset. In fact, guilds like [CL] can only play reset for 3 hours or so before their oficial raids ends, after that, their numbers drops and they just become pugs.

The question is not if DB’s NA is lackluster or not, the question is why Mag can’t just paint the whole maps of their color since they have twice the numbers of YB and DB after 3 or 4 hours of the reset and during the same time frame the whole week.

Eh, to call our NA population “extreme” is a exaggerated if referring to size. And CL is mostly in Chile, are they not? Their time zones are not dissimilar to NA…their mainland is only one hour ahead of east. DB’s NA population is highly variable depending on guild raids. We definitely do not have the population to control four maps at any time during NA prime. I do feel like we were already in the “fight for second” mode during reset, which is partly why DB already has a substantial lead. So maybe now you understand why you won so easily in T4 when playing us and Ehmry Bay

Edit: Didn’t YB have some alliance get back together recently?

Stop overgeneralizing DB, There are more than 5 players on the server.

Good fights and junk hope we stay longer and junk, I love you and junk

~Bronade

Habis.2910:

Vi Au.8341:

do we ask how much gold your SEA crew spend everyday on trebs and golems and cata/rams? no…

Cant speak for all SEA of course, but as someone who runs a lot at that time, only with MG and YB in T3 can we consistently get piles of seige every night without fail from the jp, and we tend to donate the thousands of seige drops across the hundreds of SEA players every night to our WvW-ers… I’m sure some spend money to buy seige, but we definitely get loads and loads of seige every night from EB jp courtesy of YB and MG… if nothing else for that reason alone I wish YB and MG will be our opponents for many more weeks – need to stock pile those thousands of Badges from the jp chest for the new Ascended gear that is supposed to be available with badges… whenever that may be /shrug

Come get your treasure when we are actually in puzzle. Tell me your guild tag so I can look for it. Actually just tell me all the guild tags that go into JP for their million siege so I can finally have someone to kill. Ive been bored to tears in JP cause you all are like Kain, wont come in unless you control all 3 keeps.

To anyone from Mag, is [STRM] still in Mag?
Also, is [STRM] = Stormborn? I don’t remember the name of the guild exactly xD

Stromgarde is still on Maguuma

saiyr.3071:

Stromgarde is still on Maguuma

Ooo, okies.
Thankies for the fast reply, saiyr ^^

Slomoshun.6317:

Pendragon.8735:

Gamadorn.2659:

I guess it sucks to know that when DB guilds NA and SEA put their game face on…you guys can’t compete in any timezone, including reset or N/A primetime..but seriously great job this weekend..

Lolwut, reset was back and forth. YB had the lead 1 hour in and we had it again 5 hours in. There was no clear leader throughout.

DB NA gets the table set for them every morning, full upgrades and paper on opponents BL and still usually lose NA.

A few big DB NA guilds don’t play on reset. Also, we took the lead about 2hours in on reset night and have been pulling ahead ever since.

Don’t really understand how people can say the DB NA is lackluster when we’ve held our towers and keeps better than both Yak’s and Mag on NA prime time.

I mean, if Mag and Yaks have a bigger, better, badder NA, then why are we constantly taking their stuff towers, beating their zergs and preventing them from taking our towers every evening when the Oceanic guilds aren’t on..hmm

Excuses.

Exactly. It’s actually not that big a difference.

You just need to look at the PPT in NA to see they’re putting up a decent fight. As much as people are constantly putting down the NA crew on DB, even their own server, they do have solid numbers there (if sometimes inconsistent). Certain DB forum warriors like to play the victim card and say they’re outnumbered every map/ all the time during NAP but anyone who actually plays during this time can see they’re clearly alive and kicking hard with the numbers to put up at least a good defense, and often offense.

I’ve seen plenty of DB superzergs in NA prime that outnumber the current Mag presence in contested maps and it’s actually very rare-to-never (in my experience) to see an outmanned buff on DB in any map where they actually have a presence worth holding, during NAP time.

Meanwhile… in other news YB South American players (if that’s YB) 1h ahead of east coast are putting down their own NA crew. Wut?…

If you are in the EB JP trust no one and kill them all.

YB and DB will always end up betraying any kind of mercy shown towards them.

Bunzy.8674:

If you are in the EB JP trust no one and kill them all.

YB and DB will always end up betraying any kind of mercy shown towards them.

I found a few cool DB players, one BP thief in particular who just stopped and had a chat with me randomly last week. Though they are mostly ever only people who duel and Fightclub so Quantity is limited this tier.

ChapDev.7650:

Bunzy.8674:

If you are in the EB JP trust no one and kill them all.

YB and DB will always end up betraying any kind of mercy shown towards them.

I found a few cool DB players, one BP thief in particular who just stopped and had a chat with me randomly last week. Though they are mostly ever only people who duel and Fightclub so Quantity is limited this tier.

That thief might have been me I often chat up the enemies in JP’s.

crystalpink.2487:

To anyone from Mag, is [STRM] still in Mag?
Also, is [STRM] = Stormborn? I don’t remember the name of the guild exactly xD

Mind if I ask why you wanted us? >.>

eithinan.9841:

ChapDev.7650:

Bunzy.8674:

If you are in the EB JP trust no one and kill them all.

YB and DB will always end up betraying any kind of mercy shown towards them.

I found a few cool DB players, one BP thief in particular who just stopped and had a chat with me randomly last week. Though they are mostly ever only people who duel and Fightclub so Quantity is limited this tier.

That thief might have been me I often chat up the enemies in JP’s.

I hate Mag with a passion, yet the only civilized players around the southern end of maps are Mag, not YB. With YB are your 2-3 man ganking squads camping corners and doorways, sometimes near npcs waiting for the lone player to get in combat for ganking. I know this is WvW PvP so it’s all good and I’m not complaining, just giving respect where it’s due. Mags at least will pause and see if you want to fight. They have my grudging respect for that.

[BEAR] [BP]

Sad to see that T3 is so unbalanced and DB far superior for Mag and YB.
Anyways, you might get your shot at T2 next week if you keep up the pace.
Would be fun with a new opponent in T2 for a change even if you might lack the coverage up there. Good luck to yall.
Regards from TC,

This is just my personal opinion and despite it I will fight for Yaks every second of every day that I can.

First I should point out that I am a defensive commander and since the last patch and the new points system there has been little point in upgrding and or defending points, The zerg rules the map and whoever has the numbers wins.

When you get to SEA time well what can I say 5-10 against 50. So even if you had fully upgraded you have no chance of holding. This is not a complaint and I salute the SEA guilds on DB who have been there for ever.

The only period that matters is reset after that the match is over—12 hours in so people just give up as there is little or no point in playing anymore.

For the first time I have made money not alot but on the plus side and have more badges than I need.

Mags when they choose can put the numbers on the maps during NA I salute you also
It is always fun to play against you

Any tactics are now very limited in this tier and that makes me sad for the game as a whole I hope they change its direction somewhat as we move forward.

Good luck everyone and lets have some fun and forget the score

Kulam.6514:

I hate Mag with a passion, yet the only civilized players around the southern end of maps are Mag, not YB. With YB are your 2-3 man ganking squads camping corners and doorways, sometimes near npcs waiting for the lone player to get in combat for ganking. I know this is WvW PvP so it’s all good and I’m not complaining, just giving respect where it’s due. Mags at least will pause and see if you want to fight. They have my grudging respect for that.

[BEAR] [BP]

Every server will have their jerks and opportunistic gankers. My general rule when running into lone DB or Yaks is to just keep going on my way. If I’m running solo, it’s usually because I’m on my way to join up with a commander, going to a reinforce a defense, or just running supply. In other words I have better things to do than fight pointless duels. I’ve had plenty of DB and Yaks simply tip their hats and go about their own business. But I’ve also had players from both servers attack me from behind as I pass by. Unfortunately for them, my engi doesn’t use Supply Drop as his ult.

Rollinpapers.7312:

Sad to see that T3 is so unbalanced and DB far superior for Mag and YB.
Anyways, you might get your shot at T2 next week if you keep up the pace.
Would be fun with a new opponent in T2 for a change even if you might lack the coverage up there. Good luck to yall.
Regards from TC,

We’re holding PPT all day NA today, so I don’t know that it’s as unbalanced as the score suggests. I guess in a world of t2 where people sell their first borns for SEA guilds it is.

IcerXx.3670:

crystalpink.2487:

To anyone from Mag, is [STRM] still in Mag?
Also, is [STRM] = Stormborn? I don’t remember the name of the guild exactly xD

Mind if I ask why you wanted us? >.>

Oooh, someone from [STRM] was killing a flag Veteran NPC with me this afternoon.
I PM-ed him, asking if his guild is made by Icer, but he logged off too soon =(
That’s why I asked here xD

But apparently, that [STRM] guild is not your guild ^^;;;

Yak’s being bad are giving me a LOT of video material tonight

crystalpink.2487:

IcerXx.3670:

crystalpink.2487:

To anyone from Mag, is [STRM] still in Mag?
Also, is [STRM] = Stormborn? I don’t remember the name of the guild exactly xD

Mind if I ask why you wanted us? >.>

Oooh, someone from [STRM] was killing a flag Veteran NPC with me this afternoon.
I PM-ed him, asking if his guild is made by Icer, but he logged off too soon =(
That’s why I asked here xD

But apparently, that [STRM] guild is not your guild ^^;;;

Icer is guild leader (I think) of STRM.

ParaldaWind.4523:

crystalpink.2487:

IcerXx.3670:

crystalpink.2487:

To anyone from Mag, is [STRM] still in Mag?
Also, is [STRM] = Stormborn? I don’t remember the name of the guild exactly xD

Mind if I ask why you wanted us? >.>

Oooh, someone from [STRM] was killing a flag Veteran NPC with me this afternoon.
I PM-ed him, asking if his guild is made by Icer, but he logged off too soon =(
That’s why I asked here xD

But apparently, that [STRM] guild is not your guild ^^;;;

Icer is guild leader (I think) of STRM.

Yea, but the [STRM] I saw was not Icer’s guild ^^;;;

It was Stormborn/Stromborn, if I recall correctly, not Stromgarde like saiyr said. ^-^

Kulam.6514:

I hate Mag with a passion, yet the only civilized players around the southern end of maps are Mag, not YB. With YB are your 2-3 man ganking squads camping corners and doorways, sometimes near npcs waiting for the lone player to get in combat for ganking. I know this is WvW PvP so it’s all good and I’m not complaining, just giving respect where it’s due. Mags at least will pause and see if you want to fight. They have my grudging respect for that.

[BEAR] [BP]

I chuckled. I play Oceanic time on YB and the DB zerg has never once paused to see if little ol’ me wants to fight. By your standards, that must be an awful lot of uncivilised people.

Kulam.6514:

eithinan.9841:

ChapDev.7650:

Bunzy.8674:

If you are in the EB JP trust no one and kill them all.

YB and DB will always end up betraying any kind of mercy shown towards them.

I found a few cool DB players, one BP thief in particular who just stopped and had a chat with me randomly last week. Though they are mostly ever only people who duel and Fightclub so Quantity is limited this tier.

That thief might have been me I often chat up the enemies in JP’s.

I hate Mag with a passion, yet the only civilized players around the southern end of maps are Mag, not YB. With YB are your 2-3 man ganking squads camping corners and doorways, sometimes near npcs waiting for the lone player to get in combat for ganking. I know this is WvW PvP so it’s all good and I’m not complaining, just giving respect where it’s due. Mags at least will pause and see if you want to fight. They have my grudging respect for that.

[BEAR] [BP]

We’re all pretty nice people. Why do you hate us?

Pinko.2076:

Rollinpapers.7312:

Sad to see that T3 is so unbalanced and DB far superior for Mag and YB.
Anyways, you might get your shot at T2 next week if you keep up the pace.
Would be fun with a new opponent in T2 for a change even if you might lack the coverage up there. Good luck to yall.
Regards from TC,

We’re holding PPT all day NA today, so I don’t know that it’s as unbalanced as the score suggests. I guess in a world of t2 where people sell their first borns for SEA guilds it is.

As someone from Maguuma, I think it should be easy for you to understand why our guild decided to move from CD. We weren’t “bought”, we’ve had transfers subsidised for a number of guildies who weren’t completely comfortable with the move if it meant reaching into their own pockets. As a guild, we did in fact lose money from the transfer.

CD isn’t fun. As I mentioned earlier, a Mag member should know this. You guys chased off our NA players during the day, and then you all went to sleep at night. Made for a mixture of defending keeps with 5 people against a 40 man zerg, to taking keeps at night with no competition. Just not fun at all.

ChapDev.7650:

Bunzy.8674:

If you are in the EB JP trust no one and kill them all.

YB and DB will always end up betraying any kind of mercy shown towards them.

I found a few cool DB players, one BP thief in particular who just stopped and had a chat with me randomly last week. Though they are mostly ever only people who duel and Fightclub so Quantity is limited this tier.

Is it possible to chat with enemies in WvW? I thought everyone was anonymous in WvW. Which mechanic do you use?

Moleless.1462:

Pinko.2076:

Rollinpapers.7312:

Sad to see that T3 is so unbalanced and DB far superior for Mag and YB.
Anyways, you might get your shot at T2 next week if you keep up the pace.
Would be fun with a new opponent in T2 for a change even if you might lack the coverage up there. Good luck to yall.
Regards from TC,

We’re holding PPT all day NA today, so I don’t know that it’s as unbalanced as the score suggests. I guess in a world of t2 where people sell their first borns for SEA guilds it is.

As someone from Maguuma, I think it should be easy for you to understand why our guild decided to move from CD. We weren’t “bought”, we’ve had transfers subsidised for a number of guildies who weren’t completely comfortable with the move if it meant reaching into their own pockets. As a guild, we did in fact lose money from the transfer.

CD isn’t fun. As I mentioned earlier, a Mag member should know this. You guys chased off our NA players during the day, and then you all went to sleep at night. Made for a mixture of defending keeps with 5 people against a 40 man zerg, to taking keeps at night with no competition. Just not fun at all.

I didn’t mean that comment as a jab at awe or TC. Just that t2 in general is a bit of an arms race at the moment, more than t1 has been. Awe are good people and we hope you have fun.

The overall score really isn’t telling everything. DB hasn’t been top ppt the entire day so far, so to say that it’s a really unbalanced match is an outsider’s perspective. The Na times are fun and decently balanced.

Pinko.2076:

Moleless.1462:

Pinko.2076:

Rollinpapers.7312:

Sad to see that T3 is so unbalanced and DB far superior for Mag and YB.
Anyways, you might get your shot at T2 next week if you keep up the pace.
Would be fun with a new opponent in T2 for a change even if you might lack the coverage up there. Good luck to yall.
Regards from TC,

We’re holding PPT all day NA today, so I don’t know that it’s as unbalanced as the score suggests. I guess in a world of t2 where people sell their first borns for SEA guilds it is.

As someone from Maguuma, I think it should be easy for you to understand why our guild decided to move from CD. We weren’t “bought”, we’ve had transfers subsidised for a number of guildies who weren’t completely comfortable with the move if it meant reaching into their own pockets. As a guild, we did in fact lose money from the transfer.

CD isn’t fun. As I mentioned earlier, a Mag member should know this. You guys chased off our NA players during the day, and then you all went to sleep at night. Made for a mixture of defending keeps with 5 people against a 40 man zerg, to taking keeps at night with no competition. Just not fun at all.

I didn’t mean that comment as a jab at awe or TC. Just that t2 in general is a bit of an arms race at the moment, more than t1 has been. Awe are good people and we hope you have fun.

The overall score really isn’t telling everything. DB hasn’t been top ppt the entire day so far, so to say that it’s a really unbalanced match is an outsider’s perspective. The Na times are fun and decently balanced.

Ok, sorry for the misunderstanding. For what it’s worth, we’re having a great time in T2 so far. I honestly hope we meet you guys here at some point. Will be good to fight you guys in a more even match-up. If that tanky guard commander from [DFND] ends up reading this, kudos to you. Had a lot of fun trying to stop your rampage in CDBL every day (from the other tanky gaurd commander).

Pinko.2076:

The overall score really isn’t telling everything. DB hasn’t been top ppt the entire day so far….

I’d been laughing at some of these Mags posts for a while, and had been resisting a comment… but let me bust your bubble here: we gained PPT today. We were around +42K at 12 Noon EST AND ARE AT +45k right now. It was even better a few hours earlier, but we’ve lost points in the last few hours. This is so typical of these forums – you see one data point, and you generalize.

Let me provide a screenshot, because I really don’t wish to argue this point. I don’t care who’s got larger forces/who “nightcaps”/who travels in zerg/who has superior players. You win all these arguments. Just please, stop generalizing.

Calvin.5380:

Pinko.2076:

The overall score really isn’t telling everything. DB hasn’t been top ppt the entire day so far….

I’d been laughing at some of these Mags posts for a while, and had been resisting a comment… but let me bust your bubble here: we gained PPT today. We were around +42K at 12 Noon EST AND ARE AT +45k right now. It was even better a few hours earlier, but we’ve lost points in the last few hours. This is so typical of these forums – you see one data point, and you generalize.

Let me provide a screenshot, because I really don’t wish to argue this point. I don’t care who’s got larger forces/who “nightcaps”/who travels in zerg/who has superior players. You win all these arguments. Just please, stop generalizing.

You should calm down. I’ve been online for 7 hours and we’ve been top PPT. Apparently I should have been playing for 9 hours before I commented!

Pinko.2076:

Calvin.5380:

Pinko.2076:

The overall score really isn’t telling everything. DB hasn’t been top ppt the entire day so far….

I’d been laughing at some of these Mags posts for a while, and had been resisting a comment… but let me bust your bubble here: we gained PPT today. We were around +42K at 12 Noon EST AND ARE AT +45k right now. It was even better a few hours earlier, but we’ve lost points in the last few hours. This is so typical of these forums – you see one data point, and you generalize.

Let me provide a screenshot, because I really don’t wish to argue this point. I don’t care who’s got larger forces/who “nightcaps”/who travels in zerg/who has superior players. You win all these arguments. Just please, stop generalizing.

You should calm down. I’ve been online for 7 hours and we’ve been top PPT. Apparently I should have been playing for 9 hours before I commented!

You win. I was wrong. “Entire day” means 7 hours.

Respect.

Erinshaw.8035:

First I should point out that I am a defensive commander and since the last patch and the new points system there has been little point in upgrding and or defending points, The zerg rules the map and whoever has the numbers wins.

The new WXP has crushed the will of a lot of defenders even more than before, when it was already hard to get people to do to that, because of the lack of rewards and patience required. This plays in hugely to scores each following day after reset, which is why chest beating for ppt makes no sense when people can’t understand what a huge advantage it is for them to have fortified structures to hold to every day vs ones that can be taken in minutes and have to be rebuilt up by morning crews every single day preventing Mag and YB from actually launching offensives.

Essentially the scores during the weekdays are not level playing field scores and mean little, as most are just playing to find some good fights while they are on.

It’s why you get situations like the one mentioned on the other page about the 4 hour fight for Mag BL Bay, and losing home BL objectives as that battle went on. It’s hard to get everyone to care to rush back and defend something that is not upgraded, and won’t stay upgraded past early am hours, when you are having fun where you are at.

He’s been trying to pick fights with all of us, it’s pretty silly. Wee cherrypick a sentence from a post explaining that we’re actually having fun and using it to get super mad? :s

Pendragon.8735:

Erinshaw.8035:

First I should point out that I am a defensive commander and since the last patch and the new points system there has been little point in upgrding and or defending points, The zerg rules the map and whoever has the numbers wins.

The new WXP has crushed the will of a lot of defenders even more than before, when it was already hard to get people to do to that, because of the lack of rewards and patience required. This plays in hugely to scores each following day after reset, which is why chest beating for ppt makes no sense when people can’t understand what a huge advantage it is for them to have fortified structures to hold to every day vs ones that can be taken in minutes and have to be rebuilt up by morning crews every single day preventing Mag and YB from actually launching offensives.

Essentially the scores during the weekdays are not level playing field scores and mean little, as most are just playing to find some good fights while they are on.

It’s why you get situations like the one mentioned on the other page about the 4 hour fight for Mag BL Bay, and losing home BL objectives as that battle went on. It’s hard to get everyone to care to rush back and defend something that is not upgraded, and won’t stay upgraded past early am hours, when you are having fun where you are at.

You get lots of rewards from defending in the form of WXP from farming zergs. A few juicy ones and you’ve basically gotten the same WXP as from capturing a keep. Seems to me the situation you mentioned is something different, because if they fought for our west keep for four hours, that’s four hours of no offense WXP, meaning you may as well have defended instead.

I think one thing some people might notice about DB, is that as the scores get closer, the fighting gets fiercer….It’s an impressive sight to see such pride and drive within this server, no matter the timezone…. A proud community with a warriors spirit….A rare gift these days

saiyr.3071:

You get lots of rewards from defending in the form of WXP from farming zergs. A few juicy ones and you’ve basically gotten the same WXP as from capturing a keep. Seems to me the situation you mentioned is something different,

It is different that what you are saying, which is talking about active defense. But active defense on non-upgraded structures really only happens if you first have passive defense. People scouting out and calling for help at the first sign of trouble. As well as pre-built siege kept fresh. If you have a zerg emeshed in battle on a whole other BL, they will not make it back to save a non-upgraded structure on another BL when it is hit by a zerg.

The change to the orange swords made defending things a lot more duty requiring as well as manpower intensive. Even here in T3, at least on our server, I think its too tall a task to find that many people willing to do it, enough to avoid a lot of PvDoor structure trading, for many hours of the day.

Fair enough, we have similar issues along that line sometimes.

If they would give more points/karma/exp/gold for defenders and attackers killed during a siege, we would get far more of those 4 hour epic sieges, and less zerging around keep trading. It would also go a long way to solving imbalance via population periods.

Obviously you get that stuff from loot bags but to have it reflected in the metal rewards, and PPT, I think would be even better.