Guild Wars 2

Tarnished Coast is bored to tears. we have had 570 + ppt with nobody challanging us for weeks. WvW is the only reason I play and I’ve had a month without any real WvW happening.

Please fix. please

You could always transfer off of the population stacked servers instead of hopping on the bandwagon and zerging it up 24/7.

woofie.5603:

Tarnished Coast is bored to tears. we have had 570 + ppt with nobody challanging us for weeks. WvW is the only reason I play and I’ve had a month without any real WvW happening.

Please fix. please

TC kept recruiting well beyond the point of needing it for competitive reasons, grats for ‘winning’ the coverage wars, you are now experiencing your reward

best troll of the day goes towards Woofie

Grats on your Award

Take matters in your own hands.

Don’t upgrade towers.
Wear low level gear.
Wear no armor.
Don’t use defensive siege.
Fight with even numbers and don’t coordinate.

Should Anet fix it? Probably. Until then, get creative.

Caffynated.5713:

You could always transfer off of the population stacked servers instead of hopping on the bandwagon and zerging it up 24/7.

Wrong! The challenge was fine when we were facing DB and FA.

The boredom is Anet’s fault, not ours.

I just hope they declare victory in Operation Kill Your Own Game soon.

ET and FC could use the help and you not only won’t be bored from having too many point but you also will very rarely see a queue, overflow server, or skill lag.

Thrumdi.9216:

Caffynated.5713:

You could always transfer off of the population stacked servers instead of hopping on the bandwagon and zerging it up 24/7.

Wrong! The challenge was fine when we were facing DB and FA.

The boredom is Anet’s fault, not ours.

I just hope they declare victory in Operation Kill Your Own Game soon.

Hate to brust your bubble, but if you guys went against DB and FA at the same time, you would still win by 100k

You recruited since those days and you were winning by 50k back then

It would be a blow out, TC officially has no tier, and the only people left to blame is TC, not ArenaNet.

I love how people complain about fights not being fair but then they stacked servers, if you want fair fights. the top 5 servers need to shed guilds to the lower tiers (but that will never happen)

And i told myself i would not bite on this troll…………..

A-net make matchups 1 up 1 down already. The match ups should not be the same for 2 weeks in a row, it has made wvw stale and has allowed too many spies and 2v1 alliances to form. Just mix the kitten thing up already.

Kingzook.1620:

Thrumdi.9216:

Caffynated.5713:

You could always transfer off of the population stacked servers instead of hopping on the bandwagon and zerging it up 24/7.

Wrong! The challenge was fine when we were facing DB and FA.

The boredom is Anet’s fault, not ours.

I just hope they declare victory in Operation Kill Your Own Game soon.

Hate to brust your bubble, but if you guys went against DB and FA at the same time, you would still win by 100k

You recruited since those days and you were winning by 50k back then

It would be a blow out, TC officially has no tier, and the only people left to blame is TC, not ArenaNet.

I love how people complain about fights not being fair but then they stacked servers, if you want fair fights. the top 5 servers need to shed guilds to the lower tiers (but that will never happen)

And i told myself i would not bite on this troll…………..

What planet are you on buddy? The issue here is a certain level of challenge, which has nothing to do with ppt.

The way WvW is designed challenge = coverage and a certain number of WvW-dedicated guilds. That threshold was met with the DB/FA/TC T2 matchup. (And for the record it was also met with KA was in the tier). Which is why they attracted WvW guilds.

The level of skill on SoS and Mag is high, both individually, and in terms of their WvW guilds. There just aren’t enough to meet the challenge of the WvW-centric in the higher tiers.

Anet’s error was mixing up the tiers again after they’d had been settled for at least 5 months. Why they gave this process over to an automated algorithm, I’ll never know. It would have been far better to manually move some servers around based on their data.

woofie.5603:

Tarnished Coast is bored to tears. we have had 570 + ppt with nobody challanging us for weeks. WvW is the only reason I play and I’ve had a month without any real WvW happening.

Please fix. please

Well, there are 2 days before the reset, and now with your rating you have all the chances to get a “not boring game.” Be careful what you wish for <_<.

Caffynated.5713:

You could always transfer off of the population stacked servers instead of hopping on the bandwagon and zerging it up 24/7.

Yep..and pay for transferring thus rewarding anet for their fail? No thanks..

Multiple other games>>>That way.

Rednik.3809:

woofie.5603:

Tarnished Coast is bored to tears. we have had 570 + ppt with nobody challanging us for weeks. WvW is the only reason I play and I’ve had a month without any real WvW happening.

Please fix. please

Well, there are 2 days before the reset, and now with your rating you have all the chances to get a “not boring game.” Be careful what you wish for <_<.

We’re actually losing rating at the moment this week. Not a lot so ANet must be thrilled things are “stabilizing” – I mean SoS is gaining rating so they can have more “wonderful” matchups like this week, and Mags is losing a little though not enough to keep them out of more matches like the current one.

The system is broken because there isn’t any form of parity or even smooth distribution of population across the Tiers. 3-4-5 (JQ-TC-DB) would likely be at least a fun match and hopefully a good one. Not sure FA would appreciate the “SoR-BG sandwich” that would force them into though.

SoR-BG-TC would be a lot more fun for TC than the current match. No we wouldn’t win but could hopefully make a showing close to JQ’s performance. I know [Iron] can’t wait for a chance to Chest-Thump PvDoor TC again (as seen in your post) and I’m sure some TC posters will whine about it if the match happens but at least NA would be fun with things to do.

I’d really laugh though if the “RNG Gods” gave us BG-JQ-TC 3 weeks in a row and SoR could have so much fun against rank 5-12 Servers.

Sure the OP made a pretty trolly post – doesn’t change the fact that there is a lot broken right now in WvW with no signs of fixes in sight.

XII.9401:

Caffynated.5713:

You could always transfer off of the population stacked servers instead of hopping on the bandwagon and zerging it up 24/7.

Yep..and pay for transferring thus rewarding anet for their fail? No thanks..

Multiple other games>>>That way.

ANet didn’t stack the top 4-5 servers. You the players did.

Actually, current RNG matches feels better. Yes, it creates some unbalanced matches, but it also create more rating switches. I remember period of first short WvW matches, where you can overwhelm your opponent in one day and be completely crushed in the next. That was fun.
P.S. We not seeking PvD action, exactly opposite, desire to avoid this prompted us to choose transfer to SoR as weakest (in terms of coverage) server in the top three.

Try pulling a SOR and have half your wvw guilds take the week off or barely show up so the PPT is much closer than it should be. Also run guild groups of nothing but upleveled necros and mesmers.

Imagine a world where every server had the exact same population and coverage, you would be fighting new servers in competitive matches every week! Grats on your server stacking idiots, you ruined the game for both yourself and everyone else.

Waffler.1257:

Imagine a world where every server had the exact same population and coverage, you would be fighting new servers in competitive matches every week! Grats on your server stacking idiots, you ruined the game for both yourself and everyone else.

Dispersion of WvW guilds will be unequal anyway → some servers begin lead → WvW guild recruitment started (no one want to be stomped) → guild transfers → WvW-stacked servers → migration of casuals (no one want to be stomped) → top tiers stacked with PvE and WvW population.
This is natural and logical process, you cant stop it without stopping transfers.

Rednik.3809:

Waffler.1257:

Imagine a world where every server had the exact same population and coverage, you would be fighting new servers in competitive matches every week! Grats on your server stacking idiots, you ruined the game for both yourself and everyone else.

Dispersion of WvW guilds will be unequal anyway -> some servers begin lead -> WvW guild recruitment started (no one want to be stomped) -> guild transfers -> WvW-stacked servers -> migration of casuals (no one want to be stomped) -> top tiers stacked with PvE and WvW population.
This is natural and logical process, you cant stop it without stopping transfers.

I agree, people in general are morons.

woofie.5603:

Tarnished Coast is bored to tears. we have had 570 + ppt with nobody challanging us for weeks. WvW is the only reason I play and I’ve had a month without any real WvW happening.

Please fix. please

hmm that’s odd because a couple weeks ago during the sor/tc/sos matchup i was left wondering “where is tc?”. 2 days into the match and tc had the population of a t6 server.
Guess the fairweather players play a large role on the server. Be happy ur teammates are out in force atm.

Thrumdi.9216:

Caffynated.5713:

You could always transfer off of the population stacked servers instead of hopping on the bandwagon and zerging it up 24/7.

Wrong! The challenge was fine when we were facing DB and FA.

This is a troll, right? No way is this guy upset because servers that were in a higher tier and have more coverage across the clock are able to put up a “challenge” for the guys that suffer from and complain about queues.

Do people still not understand the new rating system, and why it was implemented? It was because people complained about fighting the same servers over and over. Now you complain that only the servers in your tier could give you a challenge. I just went full Psyduck.

Thrumdi.9216:

The level of skill on SoS and Mag is high, both individually, and in terms of their WvW guilds.

I actually did a little involuntary kind of laugh/choke thing.

GuardianOMS.8067:

Thrumdi.9216:

Caffynated.5713:

You could always transfer off of the population stacked servers instead of hopping on the bandwagon and zerging it up 24/7.

Wrong! The challenge was fine when we were facing DB and FA.

This is a troll, right? No way is this guy upset because servers that were in a higher tier and have more coverage across the clock are able to put up a “challenge” for the guys that suffer from and complain about queues.

Do people still not understand the new rating system, and why it was implemented? It was because people complained about fighting the same servers over and over. Now you complain that only the servers in your tier could give you a challenge. I just went full Psyduck.

Nope, he’s saying that the solution to bad match-making is to transfer to a lower tier where bad match-making is less of a problem.

Honestly, why would I transfer from the server I’ve been on since Beta because Anet has made a poor design choice?

The more rational choice is to point out why it was a poor design, and how things were pretty good in T2 before the change. Then maybe they’ll tighten things up.

Your response points out that perhaps the situation wasn’t widely known. So hopefully this corrects any misinformation.

the system is only broken for ranks 1-5 think about that for a second.

woofie.5603:

Tarnished Coast is bored to tears. we have had 570 + ppt with nobody challanging us for weeks. WvW is the only reason I play and I’ve had a month without any real WvW happening.

Please fix. please

Transfer servers. Problem solved.

Thrumdi.9216:

GuardianOMS.8067:

Thrumdi.9216:

Caffynated.5713:

You could always transfer off of the population stacked servers instead of hopping on the bandwagon and zerging it up 24/7.

Wrong! The challenge was fine when we were facing DB and FA.

This is a troll, right? No way is this guy upset because servers that were in a higher tier and have more coverage across the clock are able to put up a “challenge” for the guys that suffer from and complain about queues.

Do people still not understand the new rating system, and why it was implemented? It was because people complained about fighting the same servers over and over. Now you complain that only the servers in your tier could give you a challenge. I just went full Psyduck.

Nope, he’s saying that the solution to bad match-making is to transfer to a lower tier where bad match-making is less of a problem.

Honestly, why would I transfer from the server I’ve been on since Beta because Anet has made a poor design choice?

The more rational choice is to point out why it was a poor design, and how things were pretty good in T2 before the change. Then maybe they’ll tighten things up.

Your response points out that perhaps the situation wasn’t widely known. So hopefully this corrects any misinformation.

I was on JQueue in beta and played on the server until we snatched the crown from HoD. The next week, we were flooded by bandwagon scrubs who clogged up the queues and destroyed the community. That week, we beat SBI and HoD combined by 268k points. Rather than complain about how our insanely stacked server mowed down the competition 24 hours a day, I left and sought out more competitive and entertaining fights in the lower tiers.

You have the same options. Sit on your stacked server and wait in queues to zerg the crap out of outmanned servers, or transfer to a lower ranked server where you can get competitive fights.

woofie.5603:

Tarnished Coast is bored to tears. we have had 570 + ppt with nobody challanging us for weeks. WvW is the only reason I play and I’ve had a month without any real WvW happening.

Speak for yourself. It’s been a fun week. Maguuma and Sea of Sorrows haven’t given up, and they win their share of battles against us. We’ve had good action on EB, MBL and SoSBL this week, and though TCBL has generally been quiet there have been a few blistering pushes there by our enemies.

Yeah, the result of the week isn’t in doubt, but honestly, there were always a lot of matches where you knew by Sunday night who was going to win.

If you don’t like the matchup system, it’s okay to express that here. But please don’t claim to speak for all of us and please don’t belittle the efforts of our opponents.

Le Rooster.8715:

the system is only broken for ranks 1-5 think about that for a second.

And the bottom tier. T8 in North America, T9 in Europe. The bottom 2 servers in each cannot offer much competition even in prime time. It turns into a boring blowout week for which ever server gets matched up with them.

I play on RoF and we’re in the Eurotrash can tier for the 2nd time in 3 weeks. One major WvW guild left our server because of it, and most of us gave up WvW last Friday night. It doesn’t matter. We’re still walking all over Vabbi and Fow.

Those two servers need to be closed.

Sergo.2867:

If you don’t like the matchup system, it’s okay to express that here. But please don’t claim to speak for all of us and please don’t belittle the efforts of our opponents.

Cheers for some chivalry

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490:

Le Rooster.8715:

the system is only broken for ranks 1-5 think about that for a second.

And the bottom tier. T8 in North America, T9 in Europe. The bottom 2 servers in each cannot offer much competition even in prime time. It turns into a boring blowout week for which ever server gets matched up with them.

I play on RoF and we’re in the Eurotrash can tier for the 2nd time in 3 weeks. One major WvW guild left our server because of it, and most of us gave up WvW last Friday night. It doesn’t matter. We’re still walking all over Vabbi and Fow.

Those two servers need to be closed.

Vabbi and fow are just broken if only it wasnt just two servers be much easier to deal with the problem

Le Rooster.8715:

the system is only broken for ranks 1-5 think about that for a second.

It may be becoming broken for ranks 8-14 too because of the ratings gap developing.

Manual intervention is the only solution.

Rednik.3809:

woofie.5603:

Tarnished Coast is bored to tears. we have had 570 + ppt with nobody challanging us for weeks. WvW is the only reason I play and I’ve had a month without any real WvW happening.

Please fix. please

Well, there are 2 days before the reset, and now with your rating you have all the chances to get a “not boring game.” Be careful what you wish for <_<.

I think we’d all prefer to lose against a T1 server instead of stomping lower tier servers.

I think you’d say the same thing. Wouldn’t you rather lose in a 3-way T1 matchup as opposed to facing two “T2” servers?

Seriously, we’re just burned out on boredom this week. There have been so many times when we’ve just screwed around instead of worked for PPT. I have no doubt our rating could have increased this week…but these matchups just make us not care to play the PPT game except as a means to possibly getting a couple good fights.

Actinotus.6410:

woofie.5603:

Tarnished Coast is bored to tears. we have had 570 + ppt with nobody challanging us for weeks. WvW is the only reason I play and I’ve had a month without any real WvW happening.

Please fix. please

Transfer servers. Problem solved.

A lot of us TCers have been here since game-launch, and wouldn’t really consider transferring off. I actually thought about it for a day or two, but I’m still holding out hope that ANet fixes this atrocious system.

Le Rooster.8715:

the system is only broken for ranks 1-5 think about that for a second.

It’d be a lot different if ANet wasn’t charging 1800 gems for transfers. I think the playing field would be a LOT different if people could transfer at will, but no one wants to transfer to a server that doesn’t seem to have a high-ranking future when it’s going to cost them gold or money.

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490:

Le Rooster.8715:

the system is only broken for ranks 1-5 think about that for a second.

And the bottom tier. T8 in North America, T9 in Europe. The bottom 2 servers in each cannot offer much competition even in prime time. It turns into a boring blowout week for which ever server gets matched up with them.

I play on RoF and we’re in the Eurotrash can tier for the 2nd time in 3 weeks. One major WvW guild left our server because of it, and most of us gave up WvW last Friday night. It doesn’t matter. We’re still walking all over Vabbi and Fow.

Those two servers need to be closed.

And RoF too as servers always need to be closed in a 3fold.

Anyways i dont understand why I hear colleagues at work complain they have to wait in queue to play WvW where on FoW we had a queue only once since i played. You want a good fight and a challange then join a lowranked server. (not to many of you though)

And tbh vs Blacktide was a nice matchup for both Vabbi and FoW and in a few weeks matchup will stabilize to a more decent level and huge differences wont occur so much anymore.

Johje Holan.4607:

Le Rooster.8715:

the system is only broken for ranks 1-5 think about that for a second.

It may be becoming broken for ranks 8-14 too because of the ratings gap developing.

Manual intervention is the only solution.

As it was at the beginning of the year when A-net pumped up the ratings for ET and FC to allow the third server, which was Sorrow’s Furnace, to get out of the tier. SF was actually losing points because they couldn’t beat the two servers by 200k or whatever it was as their rating suggested they should.

Edit: tear and tier aren’t the same thing.

I have to agree with Kingzook, the top 5, well at least the top 3 anyway should shed a bunch of guilds. Why Anet allowed guilds to move to these already stacked servers in the past while is beyond me.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; Anet I’m sure has a good idea on the WvW population of each server. They either should just yank everybody out of WvW and evenly distribute them across all servers, then lock them down to prevent any further transfers. Then no guesting allowed in WvW.

Or abolish the concept of server vs server, and have players just que WvW into 3 separate factions where we can actually see the numbers differences on each map, then join accordingly.

Complete boredom? Clearly you missed the Dolyak Parade and Quaggan Blockade.

@DeadlySynz – I don’t think you understand why the top 3 are “stacked” servers. The reason for the top 3 to keep recruiting guilds is to have 24 hour coverage so at any point in the day the fights will be the same. The point is to have a real 24 hour battle where servers don’t have time slots where guilds can only PvD because there is no one to fight. Also so 1 guild doesn’t have to try and juggle all 4 maps by floating. PPT and winning is the goal but the fights are what everyone in T1 wants and they are only getting better.

I don’t think anyone should give TC a hard time for there recruitment strategy. It’s obvious they had 24 hour coverage in mind which makes them top contender to try and break into “tier 1” Unforchantly they are at a huge disadvantage (as far as rating gos) to knock out any of the top 3 (BG/SoR/JQ) With the random matches hopefully TC gets their chance at a T1 match but the down side to that is the current top 3 will have to be split up and will make “tier 2” very lopsided.

Honestly instead of complaining about coverage and saying they should transfer, maybe you should look into transferring to a “tier” that better fits your interests. Just to point out that “tier 1” has the closest and most even match up. This week SoR takes first with JQ last, while last week BG took first and SoR took last. Complain all you want about the top 3 eating guilds but we are more even then we have ever been and I would assume all 3 servers will still pick up a few more guilds to fill in particular time slots.

Zikory.6871:

@DeadlySynz – I don’t think you understand why the top 3 are “stacked” servers. The reason for the top 3 to keep recruiting guilds is to have 24 hour coverage so at any point in the day the fights will be the same. The point is to have a real 24 hour battle where servers don’t have time slots where guilds can only PvD because there is no one to fight. Also so 1 guild doesn’t have to try and juggle all 4 maps by floating. PPT and winning is the goal but the fights are what everyone in T1 wants and they are only getting better.

I don’t think anyone should give TC a hard time for there recruitment strategy. It’s obvious they had 24 hour coverage in mind which makes them top contender to try and break into “tier 1” Unforchantly they are at a huge disadvantage (as far as rating gos) to knock out any of the top 3 (BG/SoR/JQ) With the random matches hopefully TC gets their chance at a T1 match but the down side to that is the current top 3 will have to be split up and will make “tier 2” very lopsided.

Honestly instead of complaining about coverage and saying they should transfer, maybe you should look into transferring to a “tier” that better fits your interests. Just to point out that “tier 1” has the closest and most even match up. This week SoR takes first with JQ last, while last week BG took first and SoR took last. Complain all you want about the top 3 eating guilds but we are more even then we have ever been and I would assume all 3 servers will still pick up a few more guilds to fill in particular time slots.

The fights would be even across all servers if the population was split up, not stacked on 3-5 servers. That’s what some of these people (and guilds) don’t seem to understand. That’s aimed at the guilds who transferred over to either SoR, JQ, or BG in the past little while. They aren’t the only problem, but they are a large cause of it. It isn’t necessary to have all 4 maps stacked to the point it’s que’d at any given time of day/night.

If players and guilds can’t figure that out on their own, then perhaps it’s time Anet stepped in and evened everything out themselves. It is not necessary to have all 4 maps covered 24/7. It’s not going to affect the play.

The smartest thing Anet can do at the moment is lock the top 5 servers down from any transfers then evaluate exactly the population on each one. Next, target the guilds that transferred over to the top 3 servers in the past 2-3 months, refund there gems, and return them to their previous server. Like that group that moved from FA over to BG.. completely unnecessary. Then start pulling guilds out and distributing them across all servers evenly. Then once that’s done, lock all servers down from transfers completely.

What your going to find is the numbers will be even, coverage even, and you’ll find WvW population growing. Not bandwagoning to the top 5 servers.

This is coming from someone sitting on TC in these lopsided match ups.

I could write an essay, but let’s make this simpler for the folks who don’t seem to understand this:

TC: T1.5
DB: T2.0
FA: T2.5

I honestly feel bad for TC since there is truly no good matches for them. I know they have server pride (as do we all) but maybe some of their folks should “voluntarily deport” themselves to other T3-T2 servers in an effort to increase the quality of our matches.

It’s clear ANet is in this for the money to generate gem sales from transfers. I know if just one of your 30 man mobs in EB yesterday had been on our side of the table we would have had an awesomely balanced match (though a lot of those guys were pretty squishy…maybe not THOSE guys) LOL

I always hear about tier 1.5 for Tarnished Coast but I do wonder how they would do against Jade Quarry. I think Jade Quarry/Tarnished Coast/Dragonbrand or Blackgate/Jade Quarry/Tarnished Coast would be interesting to see.

DeadlySynz.3471:

Zikory.6871:

@DeadlySynz – I don’t think you understand why the top 3 are “stacked” servers. The reason for the top 3 to keep recruiting guilds is to have 24 hour coverage so at any point in the day the fights will be the same. The point is to have a real 24 hour battle where servers don’t have time slots where guilds can only PvD because there is no one to fight. Also so 1 guild doesn’t have to try and juggle all 4 maps by floating. PPT and winning is the goal but the fights are what everyone in T1 wants and they are only getting better.

I don’t think anyone should give TC a hard time for there recruitment strategy. It’s obvious they had 24 hour coverage in mind which makes them top contender to try and break into “tier 1” Unforchantly they are at a huge disadvantage (as far as rating gos) to knock out any of the top 3 (BG/SoR/JQ) With the random matches hopefully TC gets their chance at a T1 match but the down side to that is the current top 3 will have to be split up and will make “tier 2” very lopsided.

Honestly instead of complaining about coverage and saying they should transfer, maybe you should look into transferring to a “tier” that better fits your interests. Just to point out that “tier 1” has the closest and most even match up. This week SoR takes first with JQ last, while last week BG took first and SoR took last. Complain all you want about the top 3 eating guilds but we are more even then we have ever been and I would assume all 3 servers will still pick up a few more guilds to fill in particular time slots.

The fights would be even across all servers if the population was split up, not stacked on 3-5 servers. That’s what some of these people (and guilds) don’t seem to understand. That’s aimed at the guilds who transferred over to either SoR, JQ, or BG in the past little while. They aren’t the only problem, but they are a large cause of it. It isn’t necessary to have all 4 maps stacked to the point it’s que’d at any given time of day/night.

If players and guilds can’t figure that out on their own, then perhaps it’s time Anet stepped in and evened everything out themselves. It is not necessary to have all 4 maps covered 24/7. It’s not going to affect the play.

The smartest thing Anet can do at the moment is lock the top 5 servers down from any transfers then evaluate exactly the population on each one. Next, target the guilds that transferred over to the top 3 servers in the past 2-3 months, refund there gems, and return them to their previous server. Like that group that moved from FA over to BG.. completely unnecessary. Then start pulling guilds out and distributing them across all servers evenly. Then once that’s done, lock all servers down from transfers completely.

What your going to find is the numbers will be even, coverage even, and you’ll find WvW population growing. Not bandwagoning to the top 5 servers.

This is coming from someone sitting on TC in these lopsided match ups.

Sadly I don’t think Anet should or will intervene in anyway. People move servers for a lot of reasons and even though the match up thread doesn’t reflect the respect the top 3 have for each other, all 3 servers try to influence guilds to other servers. Currently the last few major transfers were suggested DB/FA/SoS BUT we can only influence the choice not make it.

The guild that moved from FA to BG made there choice to do so and was not recruited, we welcomed them with open arms and they have been a huge help to try and compete with SoR’s very strong NA prime groups. I can not speak for them as what the reasons are for moving, but there could be a number of reasons.

I Anet manually forced guilds and players to other servers against their will, you can guarantee a lot of unhappy players and that would not be good for the game. Lock the servers? What if a friend wants to come join me on my server so we can play together? Anet tells him to get kitten?

I’m sorry “tier 2” isn’t that great for you but “tier 1” is akittens best, the most even we have ever seen it. Call it a bandwagon or what ever but SoR/BG/JQ offer something much different then other servers. A lot of people on these servers worked there kitten off to make this match up what it is today.

Hickeroar.9734:

Le Rooster.8715:

the system is only broken for ranks 1-5 think about that for a second.

It’d be a lot different if ANet wasn’t charging 1800 gems for transfers. I think the playing field would be a LOT different if people could transfer at will, but no one wants to transfer to a server that doesn’t seem to have a high-ranking future when it’s going to cost them gold or money.

Free transfers would only aggravate the problem further. Server hopping would resume until the top servers are max capacity, and all the other servers would be left drained dry

DeadlySynz.3471:

Zikory.6871:

@DeadlySynz – I don’t think you understand why the top 3 are “stacked” servers. The reason for the top 3 to keep recruiting guilds is to have 24 hour coverage so at any point in the day the fights will be the same. The point is to have a real 24 hour battle where servers don’t have time slots where guilds can only PvD because there is no one to fight. Also so 1 guild doesn’t have to try and juggle all 4 maps by floating. PPT and winning is the goal but the fights are what everyone in T1 wants and they are only getting better.

I don’t think anyone should give TC a hard time for there recruitment strategy. It’s obvious they had 24 hour coverage in mind which makes them top contender to try and break into “tier 1” Unforchantly they are at a huge disadvantage (as far as rating gos) to knock out any of the top 3 (BG/SoR/JQ) With the random matches hopefully TC gets their chance at a T1 match but the down side to that is the current top 3 will have to be split up and will make “tier 2” very lopsided.

Honestly instead of complaining about coverage and saying they should transfer, maybe you should look into transferring to a “tier” that better fits your interests. Just to point out that “tier 1” has the closest and most even match up. This week SoR takes first with JQ last, while last week BG took first and SoR took last. Complain all you want about the top 3 eating guilds but we are more even then we have ever been and I would assume all 3 servers will still pick up a few more guilds to fill in particular time slots.

The fights would be even across all servers if the population was split up, not stacked on 3-5 servers. That’s what some of these people (and guilds) don’t seem to understand. That’s aimed at the guilds who transferred over to either SoR, JQ, or BG in the past little while. They aren’t the only problem, but they are a large cause of it. It isn’t necessary to have all 4 maps stacked to the point it’s que’d at any given time of day/night.

If players and guilds can’t figure that out on their own, then perhaps it’s time Anet stepped in and evened everything out themselves. It is not necessary to have all 4 maps covered 24/7. It’s not going to affect the play.

The smartest thing Anet can do at the moment is lock the top 5 servers down from any transfers then evaluate exactly the population on each one. Next, target the guilds that transferred over to the top 3 servers in the past 2-3 months, refund there gems, and return them to their previous server. Like that group that moved from FA over to BG.. completely unnecessary. Then start pulling guilds out and distributing them across all servers evenly. Then once that’s done, lock all servers down from transfers completely.

What your going to find is the numbers will be even, coverage even, and you’ll find WvW population growing. Not bandwagoning to the top 5 servers.

This is coming from someone sitting on TC in these lopsided match ups.

That’s completely untrue. In no way will fights be even across all tiers if the top tiers are split up.

Why? Because here are only so many off-hours guilds to go around (EU and SEA timeslots). As has been said these guilds have congregated so they don’t have to PvD.

If Anet forcibly redistributes these guilds I can guarantee you the game will hemorrhage even more dedicated WvW guilds. .

Lol… you couldnt pay me to play on one of those zer tastic long que time filled servers..

Fights are fun and constant down in the lower tiers, and DR/IOJ/ET has been a pretty fun match up this week, so please stop saying its all horribly broken…

Pro tip #1: You cant win the internets… stop trying things become more fun.

Guys is you feel bad on TC, come to EU to RoF. We invite US players because of our low coverage at nights (your prime time).

If ANet wanted to encourage an evening out of populations, they should not only make transfers of accounts from top to bottom free but also transfer of guild ratings and assets.

But I find play at the bottom pretty interesting, even if it gets annoying from time to time. I like the absence of queues, the absence if lag, the absence of overflow, and the fact that one person can make a big difference quite a bit, so while I’d like to see a few more transfers to make us more competitive with other low-ranked servers, I don’t think I’d want to see us swamped with forced transfers.

I’d rather be fighting an uphill battle as an underdog than being bored by the lack of challenge or mired in skill lag after enduring a queue to even start playing.

Berk.8561:

If ANet wanted to encourage an evening out of populations, they should not only make transfers of accounts from top to bottom free but also transfer of guild ratings and assets.

But I find play at the bottom pretty interesting, even if it gets annoying from time to time. I like the absence of queues, the absence if lag, the absence of overflow, and the fact that one person can make a big difference quite a bit, so while I’d like to see a few more transfers to make us more competitive with other low-ranked servers, I don’t think I’d want to see us swamped with forced transfers.

I’d rather be fighting an uphill battle as an underdog than being bored by the lack of challenge or mired in skill lag after enduring a queue to even start playing.

Im with this guy… I road the bandwagon train once before and the 6 month fall after wards… never want to do that again.

just a couple question but isnt it everyones goal to have a populated server ???

shouldnt that also be the companies goal ??