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Posted by: kuora.5402

kuora.5402

Farewell to BG next week, it has been fun!

TC, get ready for another week of madness!

Let’s keep this clean of pointing fingers, complaining, whining or blaming.

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Posted by: tkalamba.2541

tkalamba.2541

Lets see how interesting this week gets

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Posted by: Peetee.9406

Peetee.9406

Great naked battles in Skitterburg so far. You TC guys certainly know how to bring the roleplay. That 4 dolyak dance squad was awesome, too bad about those warping BG engineers with stealth.

They kind of ruined the fun but great start!

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Posted by: Mishi.7058

Mishi.7058

Can a TC commander on SOR BL pm me in game. Thank you <3

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Posted by: DemonCow.5328

DemonCow.5328

Sanctum of Rall should just be renamed “Sanctum of Portal Bombs” or something to that extent….

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Posted by: UnholySteve.8362

UnholySteve.8362

BG good fight at TC garrison

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Posted by: Peetee.9406

Peetee.9406

Any of you BG guys want to run AC exp with me? Preferrably commanders

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Posted by: spartanx.1364

spartanx.1364

iCoas now stacking like Choo this should be fun.

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Posted by: pot.6805

pot.6805

To be fair, BG were used stacks months ago, our EU guilds on BG were amazing at it. They don’t do them anymore though. You should have seen the outcry from JQQ and SBI when BG guilds were using the turtle against them. Turtles were nerfed a week later, go figure.

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Posted by: urzen.7096

urzen.7096

BG attacking SOR at Bay on one end, while TC attacks SOr at Bluebriar on the other side. Meanwhile they dont attack each other.

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Posted by: Mishi.7058

Mishi.7058

TC and BG have been attacking one another.

To TC and BG:
One Heck of an EPIC keep fight in SOR BL Garrison. I swear it was like, TC wave, BG wave, TC wave, BG, TC and BG, and a ton of lord Resurrection. I swear that was the most fun I’ve had yet ever defending 1 location.

Whooppss another golem incoming w/ BG…Round 20+ now. Post more with yall after

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Posted by: phaneo.4597

phaneo.4597

^ Didn’t you hear about our secret alliance? Good, that’s why its called “Secret” Alliance…Muhahahaha!

Who am I kidding!

Score updates anyone? Stuck in the office as usual

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Posted by: timgod.9456

timgod.9456

BG attacking SOR at Bay on one end, while TC attacks SOr at Bluebriar on the other side. Meanwhile they dont attack each other.

We’re just looking to have some good fights, was it not a good battle?

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Posted by: pot.6805

pot.6805

BG attacking SOR at Bay on one end, while TC attacks SOr at Bluebriar on the other side. Meanwhile they dont attack each other.

As if BG or TC hasn’t been in that position before.

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Posted by: Coldviper.6794

Coldviper.6794

Sanctum of Rall should just be renamed “Sanctum of Portal Bombs” or something to that extent….

It’s a good strategy when your outnumbered. Some people don’t just zombie zerg their way to victory with 40-50 man zergs.

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

Jayne.9251

BG attacking SOR at Bay on one end, while TC attacks SOr at Bluebriar on the other side. Meanwhile they dont attack each other.

As if BG or TC hasn’t been in that position before.

Hrm, perhaps it hasn’t been done on sorbl often enough if this is new to them …..

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Posted by: pot.6805

pot.6805

My question this week is; will TC “play for first” aka stay in third forever or actually try to make a move and move up into 2nd this week? No shame trying to move yourself from third into 2nd place.

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Posted by: phaneo.4597

phaneo.4597

My question this week is; will TC “play for first” aka stay in third forever or actually try to make a move and move up into 2nd this week? No shame trying to move yourself from third into 2nd place.

We’ll be playing for fun for sure, and bring our best on the field, even if its 1 vs 10 during our off-hours.

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

Jayne.9251

We keep trying but those mean BG players insist on attacking us.

In all seriousness, we are learning a boatload and I believe improving each week. I can see improvements anyhow, even in my own gameplay. We have a number of players and guilds returning from holiday so hopefully that will translate.

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Posted by: Veltoss.9135

Veltoss.9135

I really hope TC/SoR focus more on each other and fight for second this time around rather than putting so much focus on BG. You guys won’t win that way. :<

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Posted by: urzen.7096

urzen.7096

In BG BL, Bg hasnt attacked TC at hills once since reset. We dont mind. Weve been fighting 1v2 for 2 months now. Whats another week.

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Posted by: pot.6805

pot.6805

In BG BL, Bg hasnt attacked TC at hills once since reset.

So?

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

Jayne.9251

In BG BL, Bg hasnt attacked TC at hills once since reset.

So?

Lol it’s funny … This has been done on both TCBL and bgbl a hundred times ….. Sor will take one side, BG the other of TCBL …. Heck we even witnessed a sor helping BG escort a yak into the newly taken garrison one day … Lol

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Posted by: tkalamba.2541

tkalamba.2541

I really hope TC/SoR focus more on each other and fight for second this time around rather than putting so much focus on BG. You guys won’t win that way. :<

Technically wont win focusing on each other anyways. The idea of focusing on the leader is to deprive them of getting the potential points they need. If we ignored you and went after each other, it more or less means you can do what you want. It makes no sense to focus on each other.

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Posted by: urzen.7096

urzen.7096

In BG BL, Bg hasnt attacked TC at hills once since reset.

So?

Just stating the facts.

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Posted by: pot.6805

pot.6805

I really hope TC/SoR focus more on each other and fight for second this time around rather than putting so much focus on BG. You guys won’t win that way. :<

Technically wont win focusing on each other anyways. The idea of focusing on the leader is to deprive them of getting the potential points they need. If we ignored you and went after each other, it more or less means you can do what you want. It makes no sense to focus on each other.

Doesn’t make sense for SoR because you are already in 2nd and want to keep it that way. BUT it does make sense for TC if they actually want to progress and move into 2nd place. Afterall, you have to be 2nd before you can become 1st. TC ignoring SoR only helps SoR hold 2nd place while it guarantees that TC will stay in third.

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Posted by: Urrid.4593

Urrid.4593

Just stating the facts.

Maybe, there was a fight somewhere else.

Maybe. Just. Maybe.

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Posted by: pot.6805

pot.6805

In BG BL, Bg hasnt attacked TC at hills once since reset.

So?

Just stating the facts.

So you want BG to attack TC for you? Sorry TW/LUN, we aren’t going to fight your battles for you in BG BL. If you want someone to attack TC, do it yourself is all I can say.

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Posted by: Jeknar.6184

Jeknar.6184

I really hope TC/SoR focus more on each other and fight for second this time around rather than putting so much focus on BG. You guys won’t win that way. :<

Technically wont win focusing on each other anyways. The idea of focusing on the leader is to deprive them of getting the potential points they need. If we ignored you and went after each other, it more or less means you can do what you want. It makes no sense to focus on each other.

Doesn’t make sense for SoR because you are already in 2nd and want to keep it that way. BUT it does make sense for TC if they actually want to progress and move into 2nd place. Afterall, you have to be 2nd before you can become 1st. TC ignoring SoR only helps SoR hold 2nd place while it guarantees that TC will stay in third.

It actually doesn’t guarantee that TC will stay on third as someone might come up from T3… But i got your idea…

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Posted by: Blade.9317

Blade.9317

Feisty is busy fighting the Choo train, this score update is brought to you by her twin Spunky:

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Posted by: pot.6805

pot.6805

BG coming out in force again this weekend, keep it up fam!

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Posted by: phaneo.4597

phaneo.4597

Feisty is busy fighting the Choo train, this score update is brought to you by her twin Spunky:

Where’s Feisty her twin isn’t as cute as she is

And yeah, thanks for the score update btw…am bored like hell in the office right now! zzzz

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Posted by: tkalamba.2541

tkalamba.2541

I really hope TC/SoR focus more on each other and fight for second this time around rather than putting so much focus on BG. You guys won’t win that way. :<

Technically wont win focusing on each other anyways. The idea of focusing on the leader is to deprive them of getting the potential points they need. If we ignored you and went after each other, it more or less means you can do what you want. It makes no sense to focus on each other.

Doesn’t make sense for SoR because you are already in 2nd and want to keep it that way. BUT it does make sense for TC if they actually want to progress and move into 2nd place. Afterall, you have to be 2nd before you can become 1st. TC ignoring SoR only helps SoR hold 2nd place while it guarantees that TC will stay in third.

What ends up happening is 2nd and 3rd fight amongst themselves, allowing 1st to steamroll in potential points. Fighting for 2nd doesn’t work in anyones favour except for 1st place. If both 2nd and 3rd set their sights for 1st, they serve a dual purpose, they not only work on getting themselves potential points, but they deprive 1st from theirs preventing a massive point lead. The 2nd and 3rd place would be smarter to focus on 1st to actually have a chance in a match. It also keeps things much more interesting and competitive.

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Posted by: Ardon.4105

Ardon.4105

I really hope TC/SoR focus more on each other and fight for second this time around rather than putting so much focus on BG. You guys won’t win that way. :<

Technically wont win focusing on each other anyways. The idea of focusing on the leader is to deprive them of getting the potential points they need. If we ignored you and went after each other, it more or less means you can do what you want. It makes no sense to focus on each other.

Doesn’t make sense for SoR because you are already in 2nd and want to keep it that way. BUT it does make sense for TC if they actually want to progress and move into 2nd place. Afterall, you have to be 2nd before you can become 1st. TC ignoring SoR only helps SoR hold 2nd place while it guarantees that TC will stay in third.

What ends up happening is 2nd and 3rd fight amongst themselves, allowing 1st to steamroll in potential points. Fighting for 2nd doesn’t work in anyones favour except for 1st place. If both 2nd and 3rd set their sights for 1st, they serve a dual purpose, they not only work on getting themselves potential points, but they deprive 1st from theirs preventing a massive point lead. The 2nd and 3rd place would be smarter to focus on 1st to actually have a chance in a match. It also keeps things much more interesting and competitive.

Easy to say from a second place perspective, but if TC ever wants to progress, they have to focus SoR. What is much more likely is that the people on TC will do what they want because they’re not a hivemind.

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Posted by: UnholySteve.8362

UnholySteve.8362

Haha TC, enjoy fighting the stack of Choo in garrison?

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Posted by: Static.9841

Static.9841

Whoever the SoR thief was that dueled me NW of Mendon near the 2 griffons, you sir, are awesome! I was the [UNSN] Sylvari thief. It was a real shame that we kept getting interrupted forcing you to have to back away, I was glad every time you came back because that was some really fun dueling – and my god, how long were we at it? lol, it’s just a shame that we couldn’t really continue to a conclusion because of interruptions, but I salute you, I hope we can do it again.

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Posted by: Doomdesire.9365

Doomdesire.9365

Whoever the SoR thief was that dueled me NW of Mendon near the 2 griffons, you sir, are awesome! I was the [UNSN] Sylvari thief. It was a real shame that we kept getting interrupted forcing you to have to back away, I was glad every time you came back because that was some really fun dueling – and my god, how long were we at it? lol, it’s just a shame that we couldn’t really continue to a conclusion because of interruptions, but I salute you, I hope we can do it again.

Hahaha! That was me! I think we were at it for at least 20 minutes before we both gave up. It was way too tiring having to press all those buttons o.O

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Posted by: pot.6805

pot.6805

Score update, keep pummeling ’em.
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Posted by: Thundar.3910

Thundar.3910

I really hope TC/SoR focus more on each other and fight for second this time around rather than putting so much focus on BG. You guys won’t win that way. :<

Technically wont win focusing on each other anyways. The idea of focusing on the leader is to deprive them of getting the potential points they need. If we ignored you and went after each other, it more or less means you can do what you want. It makes no sense to focus on each other.

Doesn’t make sense for SoR because you are already in 2nd and want to keep it that way. BUT it does make sense for TC if they actually want to progress and move into 2nd place. Afterall, you have to be 2nd before you can become 1st. TC ignoring SoR only helps SoR hold 2nd place while it guarantees that TC will stay in third.

What ends up happening is 2nd and 3rd fight amongst themselves, allowing 1st to steamroll in potential points. Fighting for 2nd doesn’t work in anyones favour except for 1st place. If both 2nd and 3rd set their sights for 1st, they serve a dual purpose, they not only work on getting themselves potential points, but they deprive 1st from theirs preventing a massive point lead. The 2nd and 3rd place would be smarter to focus on 1st to actually have a chance in a match. It also keeps things much more interesting and competitive.

Easy to say from a second place perspective, but if TC ever wants to progress, they have to focus SoR. What is much more likely is that the people on TC will do what they want because they’re not a hivemind.

You’re saying they’ll do what they want at the same time telling them to focus SoR, so you can focus SOR. Which is clear from EB tonight, no movement on Green from Red and visa versa, all focus is on Blue.

Which is sad, because it will all be Green by morning anyway. While BG seems to try to play the pied piper for TC.

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

Jayne.9251

No I think there’s some valid points being made …. And some nuances …. TC has to be second before it can shoot for first.

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Posted by: tkalamba.2541

tkalamba.2541

No I think there’s some valid points being made …. And some nuances …. TC has to be second before it can shoot for first.

Yes, but you can still achieve that by hitting 1st place, their points are just as good as 2nds.

Lord Lefteris – Engineer [Sanctum of Rall]

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

Jayne.9251

Well we tried that way for two weeks now and it has gone nowhere. I don’t speak for my server btw, not even a commander, but I’m in there every day and this is just what I’ve noticed.

L’enfer, c’est les autres

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Posted by: Smokee.1754

Smokee.1754

TC and BG have been attacking one another.

To TC and BG:
One Heck of an EPIC keep fight in SOR BL Garrison. I swear it was like, TC wave, BG wave, TC wave, BG, TC and BG, and a ton of lord Resurrection. I swear that was the most fun I’ve had yet ever defending 1 location.

Whooppss another golem incoming w/ BG…Round 20+ now. Post more with yall after

That was soo much fun. Best fight we´ve had in weeks even though we lost in the end. 40 mins of non stop 3 way fighting.!

That said we did take your precious garrison once again

Thanks for good times in there to both TC and SoR!

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Posted by: Thundar.3910

Thundar.3910

No I think there’s some valid points being made …. And some nuances …. TC has to be second before it can shoot for first.

You may well take second this week, we (SoR) seem to have low participation this weekend for whatever reason. But as long as BG is in this tier you cannot and will not take 1st, their population and coverage has become far to large for the other T2 servers to overcome.

The only thing you would be doing is working FOR BG by focusing on SoR, I’m not suggesting focusing BG or SoR for that matter, only that you are helping to secure first and a big point spread for BG, allowing them to move to T1, which due to their current surge and recruitment is where they belong. Like I said you playing for the pied piper by doing what they want you to do, even if you do not think you are doing it.

What would be really nice is a balanced T2, instead of servers who wish to jump into T1, by stacking. I’m not saying that is a bad thing, or that people who wish for T1 should not do that, it would just be a lot more enjoyable for the 3 servers in T2 to be on equal footing for better fights.

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Posted by: Static.9841

Static.9841

Whoever the SoR thief was that dueled me NW of Mendon near the 2 griffons, you sir, are awesome! I was the [UNSN] Sylvari thief. It was a real shame that we kept getting interrupted forcing you to have to back away, I was glad every time you came back because that was some really fun dueling – and my god, how long were we at it? lol, it’s just a shame that we couldn’t really continue to a conclusion because of interruptions, but I salute you, I hope we can do it again.

Hahaha! That was me! I think we were at it for at least 20 minutes before we both gave up. It was way too tiring having to press all those buttons o.O

Hah! wasn’t it though! When the Engi and I think Mesmer? turned up and took a crack at you, I thought I’d show some sportsmanship and stand back instead of going for the cheap shot (as I see it, they interrupted us and were therefore asking for it!), after that I think we both mentally decided to call it a day. Thanks for the bow

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Posted by: Sunspots.9861

Sunspots.9861

TC and BG have been attacking one another.

To TC and BG:
One Heck of an EPIC keep fight in SOR BL Garrison. I swear it was like, TC wave, BG wave, TC wave, BG, TC and BG, and a ton of lord Resurrection. I swear that was the most fun I’ve had yet ever defending 1 location.

Whooppss another golem incoming w/ BG…Round 20+ now. Post more with yall after

That was soo much fun. Best fight we´ve had in weeks even though we lost in the end. 40 mins of non stop 3 way fighting.!

That said we did take your precious garrison once again

Thanks for good times in there to both TC and SoR!

You aren’t going to bed yet are you? :P

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

Jayne.9251

No I think there’s some valid points being made …. And some nuances …. TC has to be second before it can shoot for first.

You may well take second this week, we (SoR) seem to have low participation this weekend for whatever reason. But as long as BG is in this tier you cannot and will not take 1st, their population and coverage has become far to large for the other T2 servers to overcome.

The only thing you would be doing is working FOR BG by focusing on SoR, I’m not suggesting focusing BG or SoR for that matter, only that you are helping to secure first and a big point spread for BG, allowing them to move to T1, which due to their current surge and recruitment is where they belong. Like I said you playing for the pied piper by doing what they want you to do, even if you do not think you are doing it.

What would be really nice is a balanced T2, instead of servers who wish to jump into T1, by stacking. I’m not saying that is a bad thing, or that people who wish for T1 should not do that, it would just be a lot more enjoyable for the 3 servers in T2 to be on equal footing for better fights.

So you’re saying we can never beat BG because of their coverage …. Seems to me that’s a strong argument for TC to try for second… If only to gain rating.

And yes, would be nice if things were balanced …. Makes for enjoyable gameplay all round … But given the often unpredictable nature of gamers, it’d be hard to regulate that. Even with a fee to transfer, there would still be server jumpers…. Although I suspect that would become more marginalized.

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Posted by: tkalamba.2541

tkalamba.2541

No I think there’s some valid points being made …. And some nuances …. TC has to be second before it can shoot for first.

You may well take second this week, we (SoR) seem to have low participation this weekend for whatever reason. But as long as BG is in this tier you cannot and will not take 1st, their population and coverage has become far to large for the other T2 servers to overcome.

The only thing you would be doing is working FOR BG by focusing on SoR, I’m not suggesting focusing BG or SoR for that matter, only that you are helping to secure first and a big point spread for BG, allowing them to move to T1, which due to their current surge and recruitment is where they belong. Like I said you playing for the pied piper by doing what they want you to do, even if you do not think you are doing it.

What would be really nice is a balanced T2, instead of servers who wish to jump into T1, by stacking. I’m not saying that is a bad thing, or that people who wish for T1 should not do that, it would just be a lot more enjoyable for the 3 servers in T2 to be on equal footing for better fights.

So you’re saying we can never beat BG because of their coverage …. Seems to me that’s a strong argument for TC to try for second… If only to gain rating.

And yes, would be nice if things were balanced …. Makes for enjoyable gameplay all round … But given the often unpredictable nature of gamers, it’d be hard to regulate that. Even with a fee to transfer, there would still be server jumpers…. Although I suspect that would become more marginalized.

You could gain rating, and cause BG to lose rating technically if their lead wasnt so big at the end of the week.

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Posted by: Thundar.3910

Thundar.3910

No I think there’s some valid points being made …. And some nuances …. TC has to be second before it can shoot for first.

You may well take second this week, we (SoR) seem to have low participation this weekend for whatever reason. But as long as BG is in this tier you cannot and will not take 1st, their population and coverage has become far to large for the other T2 servers to overcome.

The only thing you would be doing is working FOR BG by focusing on SoR, I’m not suggesting focusing BG or SoR for that matter, only that you are helping to secure first and a big point spread for BG, allowing them to move to T1, which due to their current surge and recruitment is where they belong. Like I said you playing for the pied piper by doing what they want you to do, even if you do not think you are doing it.

What would be really nice is a balanced T2, instead of servers who wish to jump into T1, by stacking. I’m not saying that is a bad thing, or that people who wish for T1 should not do that, it would just be a lot more enjoyable for the 3 servers in T2 to be on equal footing for better fights.

So you’re saying we can never beat BG because of their coverage …. Seems to me that’s a strong argument for TC to try for second… If only to gain rating.

And yes, would be nice if things were balanced …. Makes for enjoyable gameplay all round … But given the often unpredictable nature of gamers, it’d be hard to regulate that. Even with a fee to transfer, there would still be server jumpers…. Although I suspect that would become more marginalized.

Oh I agree, TC should be fighting for second, I would if I were in their shoes. But focusing on one server in a 3 way battle is a poor way to go about it, SoR will fight both, snag points from both, and take 2nd in that fashion.

As far as a balanced tier, its wishful thinking on my part, there really is no way to enforce it, some people will want to win by however means, and human nature demand the path of least resistance, hence, stacking servers.

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Posted by: Static.9841

Static.9841

Yes, but you can still achieve that by hitting 1st place, their points are just as good as 2nds.

We’re aware of that, but we’re not going to keep smashing our faces into a wall before we realise we need to take a different approach and change tactics. We’ve worked our way up to T2 and seen what happens when our opponents decide to cut out 2nd place and solidly hit 1st place (us) and just fall back on points even more because of pure stubborness. We try to not only learn from our mistakes but those of others where we can.

We don’t like to back away from fights, nor do we like ignoring one side in favour of the other, but when the same plan isn’t working for 2 weeks, we need to modify our objectives in order to be contenders (at least for second place). If we focus on one side, we’re not about to turn a blind eye to the other.

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