Guild Wars 2

[fixing the thread]

Kincaidia.3192:

Do you actually get the chest associated with the level or JUST the level?

you get the chest

Daendur.2357:

I really don’t see any problem here.

I don’t mind the item but IMHO its contradictory to their stated design goals with WXP.

I wouldn’t dare waste laurels on wxp… if the idea is “oh my alt can have wxp” … your alt likely doesn’t have ascended trinks yet.

I mean how many of us with 5 characeters have alts with ascendedtrinks? I have 1 alt with a ring and accessory… 3 alts with 0

My brother has 1 alt with 2 rings, 3 alts with zilch.

Who really wants to waste time gated assets like laurels on wxp?

If they added 500 jewelcrafting and gave jewelers the ability to make ascended stuff, then okay? Until then… hold onto those laurels. it’s a good option to spend laurels on, if we didn’t need them for equipment.

~X

I’m really glad they made this liquid wxp obtainable with laurels. I was wrong to doubt you, Devon, you really know how to encourage alt playing and character progression in WvW. Why, I have about 50,000 extra laurels to spend, after already spending it all to get ascended.

In short, thanks Anet and especially Devon, for making my WvW dreams come true.

Atistheso.4657:

Very disappointed about that. A dev already mentioned on the forum that we would soon be able to buy liquid WXP with badges. Looks like he forgot to mention that this will require laurels…
So in the end WvW badges are still as useless as they have always been.

Well I had enough Laurels rotting to spend 3000 badges. ;/ Makes me kinda wish I didn’t spend 2-3k of them on armor for my alts.

Since I got both the minis, the tonic, 4 ascended rings and accessories, 2 ascended amulets and 6 WvW infusions, I have no more use for laurels. Therefore my 56 leftover laurels came to good use. (the drop rate on the droppable WXP consuables is low btw, except for 250 WXP ones)

Why is everyone focusing on ascendant trinkets? Buying all trinkets gives you 160ish extra stats over exotic. Same amount of laurels gives you 90 world ranks, for me enough to get applied fortitude and 250 extra stats max 5 min after i join wvw. Good addition that makes it easier to reach rank 115/230 if you prefer that over the ascendant items.

Why are people focusing on Trinkets? 160ish extra stats? Why you ask?

Don’t worry about ascended weapons, it’s only 6% bonus DPS
Don’t worry about ascended trinkets, it’s only +160 stats
Don’t worry about guard leech, it’s only +200 stats
Don’t worry about applied fortitude, it’s only +2500 hps
Don’t worry about Bloodlusts, it’s only a maximum of +900 stats to your opponent

Dear god, this is the very definition of stat creep. Being 80 with full exotics should be roughly on par stat wise to anyone else, but we’re no where near close to that. I’m on Ebay right now, and I have seen horrible behavior by some elitist Maguuma. I see legendaries, full guard stacks, full sigil stacks, and 3 stacks of borderland bloodlust on the maguuma and none of that on the poor ebay’ers. Even if skills matched up there would be no contest.

It’s just bullcrap. Do I personally have most of that? Yes, but I also moved from a Tier 1/2 server to get away from ridiculousness, and I play too much. For casual players, going into the borderlands is just glorified suicide. The difference between a full exotics player and a fully loaded players is 1500+ extra stats, 2500 extra hitpoints and 5+% DPS.

This applies both to new players as well as alts. Am I going to go on an alt with no guard leech/fortitude and no ascended weapons?

Hellsno. And neither will most of us.

If a player plans to play a moderate amount of WvW, laurels for WvW levels makes no sense.

With laurels

• Ascended: 130 laurels for a permanent +5% or so buff (about 3 months and 30 hours game play)
• ApFort: 230 laurels for a temporary WvW only +8% or so buff (about 6 months and 60 hours of game play)

Without Laurels

• Ascended: Cannot be done
• ApFort: About 140 hours of WvW game play (at the most)

Both

• 3 months of dailies/monthlies
• 140 hours of WvW game play (at the most)

Basically in three months of modest WvW play a player will have BOTH and noticeable improvement in stats in and out of WvW.

Kincaidia.3192:

Why are people focusing on Trinkets? 160ish extra stats? Why you ask?

If you bother to read my post you see that I compare the trinkets to the world rank stat buffs. People claim they can never use it because the dont have trinkets yet. Personally, I’m getting 2500 hp before i get all the trinkets (already have 2 from before wxp was introduced and i took a break).

Yaro.3251:

bradderzh.2378:

It was implemented to help alts.

No it’s not. It still has single, very limited source. Laurels income is not multiplied by number of alts. Neither is liquid WEXP. We still have single pool of resources to spend across all characters. Guess what – as long as there are useful masteries to have, all of this pool will be spent on main.

Did you even continue to read the rest of my post? Go back and check it and you will see I am not arguing against your point…

bradderzh.2378:

Yaro.3251:

bradderzh.2378:

It was implemented to help alts.

No it’s not. It still has single, very limited source. Laurels income is not multiplied by number of alts. Neither is liquid WEXP. We still have single pool of resources to spend across all characters. Guess what – as long as there are useful masteries to have, all of this pool will be spent on main.

Did you even continue to read the rest of my post? Go back and check it and you will see I am not arguing against your point…

I did. I’m not arguing with you either, not about the whole issue that is. Just pointing out an error in particular premise. It was NOT implemented to help alts.