7th VS 2nd & 3rd - Tiers should PLAY OWN TIER

7th VS 2nd & 3rd - Tiers should PLAY OWN TIER

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Posted by: atheria.2837

atheria.2837

How and why are two tier one servers pitted against a tier three server?

Easy.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/big-changes-coming-to-wvw-matchups/

Is this a trick question?

Apparently you didn’t read… Anet isn’t honoring their word on this statement at all.

“To counter this, we’re going to partially randomize server matchups, with the exception being we won’t match servers against other servers whose rating falls outside of an acceptable range. This range will be determined by using your world’s rating and deviation (already listed on the leaderboards).”

The care they said they’d exhibit NEVER HAPPENED

Huh? This is how match-making has been working since that post. The “acceptable range” is +/- 100 rating.

The ratings of the top seven servers last match were:
1- 2 086.395
2- 1 953.507
3- 1 933.747
4- 1 922.419
5- 1 882.185
6- 1 863.060
7- 1 852.305

Now you see that many of those ratings are within the +/- 100 “acceptable range”. There was only a 10 point difference between rank 6 and rank 7 and 81 point difference between rank 2 and rank 7. That means the rank 7 server was well within the “acceptable range” to roll positive and rank 6 to roll negative. Ten points is too small of a difference to have an impact in the way the randomized roll will occur.

As for rank 2 rolling down, you can see that the rank 4 and rank 5 servers are also within the “acceptable range”, having less than a 100 point difference with the rank 2 server.

This answers your question as to how and why the rank 7 server ended up in a match against rank 2 and rank 3. Perfectly expected and “acceptable”.

Edit: I should add, the “acceptable range” used to be much wider, like +/- 200, when Anet first introduced the randomized roll. They made it smaller a few months later.

For all your blustering, the score at the end of the week tells more than any of your nonsense.

It wasn’t a fair fight in anyone’s world except those spawncamping YB for a whole week while guilds bailed and players put the game down for insane frustration.

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

How and why are two tier one servers pitted against a tier three server?

Easy.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/big-changes-coming-to-wvw-matchups/

Is this a trick question?

Apparently you didn’t read… Anet isn’t honoring their word on this statement at all.

“To counter this, we’re going to partially randomize server matchups, with the exception being we won’t match servers against other servers whose rating falls outside of an acceptable range. This range will be determined by using your world’s rating and deviation (already listed on the leaderboards).”

The care they said they’d exhibit NEVER HAPPENED

Huh? This is how match-making has been working since that post. The “acceptable range” is +/- 100 rating.

The ratings of the top seven servers last match were:
1- 2 086.395
2- 1 953.507
3- 1 933.747
4- 1 922.419
5- 1 882.185
6- 1 863.060
7- 1 852.305

Now you see that many of those ratings are within the +/- 100 “acceptable range”. There was only a 10 point difference between rank 6 and rank 7 and 81 point difference between rank 2 and rank 7. That means the rank 7 server was well within the “acceptable range” to roll positive and rank 6 to roll negative. Ten points is too small of a difference to have an impact in the way the randomized roll will occur.

As for rank 2 rolling down, you can see that the rank 4 and rank 5 servers are also within the “acceptable range”, having less than a 100 point difference with the rank 2 server.

This answers your question as to how and why the rank 7 server ended up in a match against rank 2 and rank 3. Perfectly expected and “acceptable”.

Edit: I should add, the “acceptable range” used to be much wider, like +/- 200, when Anet first introduced the randomized roll. They made it smaller a few months later.

For all your blustering, the score at the end of the week tells more than any of your nonsense.

It wasn’t a fair fight in anyone’s world except those spawncamping YB for a whole week while guilds bailed and players put the game down for insane frustration.

OK.. so honest question. What did you expect was supposed to happen? Rank 6 server vs rank 2 and rank 3? With only a 10 point difference in glicko rating, do you think they would have fared any better?

The problem in my eyes seems more to be the unwillingness of the typical NA player to understand how the population and rating manipulation by Anet affects WvW. It would be better for the overall game mode if these players stopped thinking that there are vast differences between tiers because the compressing of the glicko ratings says otherwise. You should expect to roll higher tier matches and lose. You should also expect to roll lower tier matches and win by a lot. And you should also expect to get frustrated with NA players still living in the past and all trying to stack into BG. EU is already used to matches where rank 7 gets matched with rank 2 and rank 3 because their population has traditionally been better at this than NA players. NA is simply becoming more like EU through the gentle massaging of Anet.

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Posted by: Sarika.3756

Sarika.3756

Let me put a different perspective on it. There were times YB could have broken that spawn camp and didn’t.

But that takes a level of coordination often not found on YB.