Guild Wars 2

Genev.2450

Logged on to see if anything was happening.
Leading in points, nobody of our guild in WvW and apparently nobody of the enemy servers around either…. Guess i’ll have to do some coursework, kitten you -_-

Sounds about right. What is it now in GMT? 3pm? Usually people is still working at this time just so you know…
But BT is a couple hours ticking for 400+ probably due capping everything without any resistance in the morning.

Snort you are right m8. We need to go down a few tiers. We had no teams for PvD but we held our own quite well without it and beat many night capping servers without it. where we made our way to T2 without night cappers. What did you guys do?

Thats why T2 was hard for us. It was 24 hour scoring and they were also great in primetime. I just cant wait to see your next tier scores to be honest.

Forum pvp for when doors get you bored!

Actually, we transferred because our old server wasn’t very WvW focused, and we were. As our guild has history with Xaoc in another game, and Blacktide as a server has a rather hardcore pvp mentality, we came to try it out, found it suited us better and stayed.

We don’t claim to be PvP gods, just as you don’t come over as taking pride in your server. Instead, you come off as arrogant whiny <something>, refusing to recognise that anyone else than you might actually be half-decent. Except if you’re not up against them, then it’s all like “Hahaha you just wait until you’re up against that server which kicked our kitten #8221;.

I at least recognise that even when we’re losing, we put up a good fight and had fun doing so, all YOU do is complain about everything.
I’ve been ill this week so haven’t been able to play much, but even if I had been playing, I wouldn’t have admitted to any good fights against SFR because honestly, at this point I don’t feel you deserve my recognition for your efforts.

Good thing that I’m pretty sure you couldn’t care less about my opinion.

Genev.2450:

Actually, we transferred because our old server wasn’t very WvW focused, and we were. As our guild has history with Xaoc in another game, and Blacktide as a server has a rather hardcore pvp mentality, we came to try it out, found it suited us better and stayed.

We don’t claim to be PvP gods, just as you don’t come over as taking pride in your server. Instead, you come off as arrogant whiny <something>, refusing to recognise that anyone else than you might actually be half-decent. Except if you’re not up against them, then it’s all like “Hahaha you just wait until you’re up against that server which kicked our kitten #8221;.

I at least recognise that even when we’re losing, we put up a good fight and had fun doing so, all YOU do is complain about everything.
I’ve been ill this week so haven’t been able to play much, but even if I had been playing, I wouldn’t have admitted to any good fights against SFR because honestly, at this point I don’t feel you deserve my recognition for your efforts.

Good thing that I’m pretty sure you couldn’t care less about my opinion.

This pretty much sums it up.

my biggest question to the servers and even more so the pvdoor guilds is what will you do if anet actually get their act together and limits offhour capping points ? since obviously you cant hold prime time.

sfr while a decent server is not an uber primetime server of mega guilds it does good because our pugs are actually pretty dam decent and works with the guilds there is since we have 0 ppl to rely on for offhour play so if the importance of prime time gets its actual due (you know actually fighting other players not pve) i think sfr is in great shape.

I don’t think they will, European servers have Russians, and NA servers have SEA/Oceanics as “natural” presence. To limit “offhour” capping points would be like telling those players that their contributions don’t matter, even if they play in their primetime, simply because they don’t fit normal NA/Western European timezones.

Genev about sums it up for me. I do have mad respect for riverside and they have thus far given us some great battles. SFR only manages to whine and obviously think themselves gods of WVW.

And Gronk if you are asking if our server goes to bed at 11pm GMT then quite a few of us do. I know when I signed off around 10 GMT last night a lot of my guild had already gone to bed. So I guess now you are the night cappers by your definition.

Hi, I’m from ThUn, guild that transferred to BT for quality WvWvW. As a prime time participant and fought couple of days against SFR I concluded that you are indeed good.

It takes an extra second to turn SFR guys into loot bags in comparison to other servers, glad I helped your ego boost.

:) will be good to see Unnamed again tonight.

Personally I would like to thank the minority from SFR on these forums.

Not for any good fights Ive had as they obviously came from the part of your server that carried you into T2 in the first place and are busy fighting rather than crying.

Not for telling us how we will lose against a 24/7 server the way you already have.

Not for telling us how you cant even beat a server without a 24/7 presence and only a -3 Hour Eastern EU presence and a GMT presence that still needs more people as we cant fill every borderland some nights.

Id like to thank you guys because Im a share holder in Kleenex and my share price has rocketed this week> Gems on you guys
I dedicate this song to you guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yopNkcDzQQw

Epoch.5396:

Snort you are right m8. We need to go down a few tiers. We had no teams for PvD but we held our own quite well without it and beat many night capping servers without it. where we made our way to T2 without night cappers. What did you guys do?

Thats why T2 was hard for us. It was 24 hour scoring and they were also great in primetime. I just cant wait to see your next tier scores to be honest.

What we did was see things as they were. We looked at the system saw it was 24/7, ditched the whiners, manned up and started the process to create a server that can compete as the game exists. This involves a lot of sacrifice and coordination.

We don’t hold on desperately to arbitrary and relative terms such as ‘prime time’ . It serves only as a crutch to those who are not willing to work.

I would suggest some people look up two words relative and arbitrary.

You attitude is not that off someone who plays to win, your too fast to the excuses. Reminds me of my employees who come to me with the problems rather than the solutions.

http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win-part-1.html

As for how we will do in the next tier worst case scenario is we crash and burn just as you guys did. However if we do we will just look at fixing the reasons for failure rather than deny we failed. We will then attempt to rectify those faults.

Our attitude is that of Beckett.

“Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.”

However what if you guys keep falling and failing?

Whine better?

And even if we do crash and burn at least we will have done so with a fight and hopefully without all the crying of cheating and then off hour capping.

@genev Its not about making it not worth anything but frankly ranking pvedoors the same as prime time fighting is plain hillarious, if you can cap and hold easier due to limited ammount of players in off hours the points should be reduced as its obvious to anyone here that taking and holding things prime time is not only harder but things switch hands faster.

NA have their own server, europe have our own and we go by that, if people feel slighted about being a minority time zone user in a majority eviroment they can stop playing or ask anet to institue some moscov time zone but frankly asking us the majority to accept this ridicoules night caping compared to prime time fighting is gonna make this game lose more players than the free transferes is causing.

I actually do speak French, however i have to admit i’m pretty happy on Blacktide, I also ahve 0 interest on moving to Desolation no matter how much i love them /shrug
(Actually, the guild i was going to join in beta was on Desolation, ended up joining a small friend’s guild somewhere else instead though)

I’ll see if i can stay up a bit later tonight to see exactly when it is that you start stomping us…. making the PPT equal’ish isn’t considered stomping btw, and thats all i’ve seen so far except on screens from around 3 am i believe?

@Harkain
Honestly, with a pvp system like this, there shouldnt have been any separation to begin with.

I think the reason for so much smacktalk from the new guilds to Blacktide is they are afraid that Xaoc will transfer over to SR.

Looking at thier Project Blacktide recruitment post – they state the queue times for the server at various intervals of the day and the only queue time all areas are full is 8pm – 12am (for arguments sake lets call this ‘Prime Time’ seeing as there is alot of debate about this, its tentative, but based upon the crazy logic of when the queues are greatest there may be more people wanting to play).

Now this alledged ‘Prime Time’ – you know the time with queues – happens to coincide with the time they Blacktide lose all the points Xaoc has worked for throughout the day for.

Maybe Xaoc are starting to question if they are better off transferring to a server where there daytime activities are not wasted during ‘Prime Time’.

Anyway enough trolling, back to the battlefield, see you in game…..

@pedrst

You should also remember I faced you guild a number of times, you got your fair share of losses. I seem to recall a duel with Veles that lasted an hour or so it seemed.

I already speak french it would be easy to transfer.

I love you false dichotomy. Moving to another server to build a community there is the same as having people move to your to build one.

The game is 24/7 and it allows server transfers for free.

Facts are such inconvenient things arent they.

“when in even numbers at prime-time (even when you have all zones for yourselfs from Xaoc and fully upgraded) you still get stomped.”

You really miss the irony in that you are posting about doing what you whine about others doing , arent you.

You only win when blacktides population is low. Last night what time was it when you took the lead? 4pm, 5pm, 6pm, 7pm, 8pm,9pm….

On Searfaresr does prime time only start when you go +5 points and end when you go -5.

Last week primes time was from 8.34 to 9.15 on days beginning with a T or S, that also fall on an even number date?(Please reference the Seafarers almanac for the rules for leap years)

Perhaps you use a different metric, I prefer a simple one, winning and losing.

One last fact we go up you go down.

I will be home soon come and get me I shall be in a fully fortified keep sipping chilled vodka(I mix with tears for taht salty bite).

Na zdorovje

The reality of W3 is that ArenaNet failed on an epic level. Soon there will be maybe 3 servers in Europe filled with delusional people, who somehow manage to tell themselves how pro regarding organization they are (HOD from US anyone?).

Veles.5289:

The reality of W3 is that ArenaNet failed on an epic level. Soon there will be maybe 3 servers in Europe filled with delusional people, who somehow manage to tell themselves how pro regarding organization they are (HOD from US anyone?).

Indeed. Funny part is that delusional people will think they’re good.

Tell you what, “jumping bandwagons new guilds in Blacktide who love to talk big”, lets meet in tPvP where competition is at? How about that? Once they implement the new patch with closed arenas we will humbly invite you guys for some scrims, does that sound good? No night/morning capping, 5v5. How does that sound broseph.

/shrug
I’m good at PvE, I’m useful in an organised group in WvW, I ahve no idea how i am in sPvP, i seemed “okay” in the random puggy environment, but don’t really see the relevance to WvW, which is an entirely different game.

Only game i’ve been good at in arena-type playing was SWtOR because nobody else ran my build and they didnt know how to counter, but that doesn’t mean that I was a bad player in any of those games.

@ Snort

Check the Project Blacktide post in these forums, the ones with queue times posted, you can deduce your server prime time from that – I’ll say no more.

this is like WHA all over again.
i approve.

Why do people even bother about points? Pvp is about fighting, not some lame kitten score mechnic. As for SFR “stomping” BT in primetime, it is not something I have seen in the borderlands I have played in. In fact, desolation was a much tougher opponent in “primetime” last week than SFR. SFR have some really good guilds for sure but in general they are not better (or worse) than other servers we have faced.

Mortix.9725:

this is like WHA all over again.
i approve.

My job here is complete.

/signed Pink Witch Hunter

Mortix.9725:

this is like WHA all over again.
i approve.

It has my official seal of approval too.

Anyways, hope to see you free badges… I mean Blacktide guys on the field at prime time.

Xoas Eploiting… Using the Ress Pad even though it was contested and still lost it… kitten. SS coming soon.

Thanks for the Badges though http://i.imgur.com/wwqhR.jpg

Nekkma.8961:

Why do people even bother about points? Pvp is about fighting, not some lame kitten score mechnic. As for SFR “stomping” BT in primetime, it is not something I have seen in the borderlands I have played in. In fact, desolation was a much tougher opponent in “primetime” last week than SFR. SFR have some really good guilds for sure but in general they are not better (or worse) than other servers we have faced.

I played Sunday night on Blacktide – stayed with the ‘zerg’ (aka loose shambles that had little coordination and little leadership. Blacktide zerg lost 9 times out of 10.

Went back to Seafarers on Monday – followed commanders instructions. Seafarers won 9 fights out of 10.

SFR may be far lower pop but its a kitten sight better than BT.

Grok said it all tbh.
Your replies are just trolling.
toodles

pedrst.3127:

Veles.5289:

The reality of W3 is that ArenaNet failed on an epic level. Soon there will be maybe 3 servers in Europe filled with delusional people, who somehow manage to tell themselves how pro regarding organization they are (HOD from US anyone?).

losed arenas we will humbly invite you guys for some scrims, does that sound good? No night/morning capping, 5v5. How does that sound broseph.

You are aware that its mass pvp?

spvp is the forum above.

If you want us we are in WvW come get us. Guild versus guild in an open environment, you way as well have challenged us to a timed dungeon run.

I assume you didnt blag about getting us in WvW because you would get rofl stomped?

I do like that no one has any substantive replies though, you know I speak the truth.

Seafairers is failing not just because you cant organise but because you dont recognise its you that has the problem.

WvW is what it is, it may change, I hope it does. At the moment its 24/7, wake up to that.

The fact you want a mini tournament shows how little you understand the concept of mass pvp.

tagnut.8621:

I played Sunday night on Blacktide – stayed with the ‘zerg’ (aka loose shambles that had little coordination and little leadership. Blacktide zerg lost 9 times out of 10.

Went back to Seafarers on Monday – followed commanders instructions. Seafarers won 9 fights out of 10.

SFR may be far lower pop but its a kitten sight better than BT.

Then we have different experiences. I enter the borderlands my guild is in and so far the quality of SFR is not better, or worse, than other servers I have been up against. You have some really good guilds, some avarage and some quite bad; just as most other servers do. In my oppinion, none of the servers have “stomped” any of the other, in terms of fighting, during my playtime (19-22 CET). WvW would be much better if people focused on fights instead of score.

Genev.2450:

@Harkain
Honestly, with a pvp system like this, there shouldnt have been any separation to begin with.

if there was no separation from the start there would have been 0 problems because ALL servers would have had 24-7 crews in shifts, hence no problem. The problem only comes due to anets poor handling of the issue.

Harkain.5189:

Genev.2450:

@Harkain
Honestly, with a pvp system like this, there shouldnt have been any separation to begin with.

if there was no separation from the start there would have been 0 problems because ALL servers would have had 24-7 crews in shifts, hence no problem. The problem only comes due to anets poor handling of the issue.

We agree on something! \o/

Though there would still be unofficial <something> servers, the problem would be nowhere near as bad as it is now.

@Snort

We don`t play WvW anymore. It is broken, boring and with ArenaNet “not giving a kitten attitude” will become even more crap.

Indeed. All i asked was a fair ground and fair numbers, but its alright. I do understand if you don’t like those kind of fights and all

So you’re ranting about WvW… and you dont even play it?

Genev.2450:

So you’re ranting about WvW… and you dont even play it?

Actually bought the game because of it, played it a lot, not my fault that ArenaNet is giving nightcapping scrubs same points as to people that are actually PVP-ing to earn them.

So people that transfer server are no-good-easymoders but you quit wvw cause you cant counter nightcapping. Seems legit.

Nekkma.8961:

So people that transfer server are no-good-easymoders but you quit wvw cause you cant counter nightcapping. Seems legit.

More or less brozefine.

Good fight with riverside at Eternal Battleground in Molevekian Deive
10v50+ and only battle spirit gave us some victory!

Nekkma.8961:

So people that transfer server are no-good-easymoders but you quit wvw cause you cant counter nightcapping. Seems legit.

So by your logic is that we should transfer to another server (or even an US server) so that we can have everything capped for us by some other time-zone? Seems legit.

And do tell me how you counter nightcapping please. And don’t tell me that is by calling other time-zone guilds because then it means that they are countering nightcapping, not you.

pedrst.3127:

And do tell me how you counter nightcapping please. And don’t tell me that is by calling other time-zone guilds because then it means that they are countering nightcapping, not you.

Ask IRON on Desolation

To be on (or at this point, maybe its off?) topic:
Dat Red Guard (Riverside) o.O

Painful!

Epic fight /w riverside once again at Quentin Lake. Defended tower with 10 people against 40+ Riversiders with only ballista welcome

Two weeks ago we gave BT such a kick in the kitten giving it enough momentum to fly to T1.
Thats all the story

When does Prime time start its getting late and we are still in the lead at 9 pm.

I have to log off soon.

well lead is currently going from you to us and changing every camp take so yeah…lots of great fighting in your borderlands

22h25 CET, my illness is forcing me to stop for the night, while you ahve come up equal, and been pretty decently ahead for a short time, nothing what i would call “stomping” was done

We were in SFR, there was a pretty large SFR zerg there actually, and Riverside had both a zerg and the Red Guard (ouch ouch ouch) there. We were running like mad all over the place :p

Not any real WvW guild, Just randoms. Can even check Events on PeVePe.net page.

We told people who were waiting in Queues to go to SFR but no guild presence sadly was in there.