Guild Wars 2

At this rate the scoring is going to be the change. All we can do now is hope to the love of god that a-net does not change which time zone you play in effects the amount of points you earn for you server.

Just because one server has a good “night time” guild that does not mean you have to punish them.

This will not effect the NA day time pop that much so stop thinking about yourselves. This is about any EU players on NA servers or vise versa.

There would be no point for our amazing Auzy guilds to play if they are only getting 50% of the points that day crew gets.

This will break wvw, most likely distorty it. If your going to change the point system at least do it without making half of the world’s population feel useless.

people need to think outside the PPT box when thinking about how the scoring system might change.

Break wvw? Such drama. Seriously? You are going to quit wvw if nighttime ppt is reduced?

If anything breaks wvw its night-capping. Does it make sense that one server should “win” the ppt battle because they take the whole map after NA goes to sleep and “defend” it from a couple roamers until NA gets back on?

You are defending an unfair system purely because it benefits you, and not the majority of players. Who do you think deserves to get paid more, a fast food restaurant security guard, or a president’s bodyguard? Does it make sense to you that you should get the same points defending an empty map that those of us get with all maps queued? There’s a reason you get better rewards killing a raid boss than you get killing a dungeon boss. It’s more difficult.

All captures you make are still going to affect the end score. Pretending that just because there are less points scored that your value intrinsically declines is quite contrary to the truth.

The server with a stronger off-hours presence will still be better off overall, because accomplishing things like getting and maintaining T3 keeps/towers before and after primetime is what lets primetime do a better job at holding the ppt lead.

Yea, you get fewer points in a given tick, but in all honesty, what does it really matter if what you accomplish is upheld? Does the change actually affect you personally in any way? It won’t change your rewards or relative contribution to other servers at those times. All it does is change how significant of a lead you can get while your opponents are not playing, and it helps alleviate some stacking issues. I see little changing overall.

It’s ignorant to pretend like the efforts of OCX groups are going to be diminished. It just makes NA’s strengths/deficiencies more pronounced.

((Post aimed at the angry responders not the thinking posters))

This a thousand times over. The heavily played time zones are special. The commanders have to deal some of the “oddest” players I have ever seen. ( me for one)

While there are many many good players, purely on mathematical grounds you will also have more whingers, whiners,forum warriors and various idiots. This particular group must be pandered too.

( Note how by selecting the incorrect words you can imply something that may not actually be true?)

OR

We could all state our personal opinions without misleading wording or attacking each other, but after 3 years, I doubt many of us are capable of this.

@Anet Good Luck I hope you come up with a scoring system that works for a critical mass as I fear many posters are just intentionally creating drama regardless, as they already intend moving games.

Ugh…

Ok, I’ll be short in this thread.

A change that target specific hours, timezones or players?
Unacceptable.
Unviable.
Illogical.

Globally change the way WvW scoring works and reduce the impact of runaway scores due to unbalanced sides, with the same WvW scoring rules applied 24/7?
Perfect.
What we need.
Logical.

And yet people instantly go apekitten over the first thing, which Anet never would do unless they are kittens.

All the night cap players are panicking. Poor guys :’(

Dawdler.8521:

Ugh…

Ok, I’ll be short in this thread.

A change that target specific hours, timezones or players?
Unacceptable.
Unviable.
Illogical.

Globally change the way WvW scoring works and reduce the impact of runaway scores due to unbalanced sides, with the same WvW scoring rules applied 24/7?
Perfect.
What we need.
Logical.

And yet people instantly go apekitten over the first thing, which Anet never would do unless they are kittens.

Yes, but a-net has not clarified on what they are trying to say. So as long as people say some stupid kitten about half the world’s population play time needs to be worth less then there’s then I’m going to ask for a net not to.

Everyone pays for the game just the same, it would be a really kittened up thing to punish players due to what time they work/ play. Make the score based on PvP in a PvP game mode and you solve the problem and treat all players equally. Rather than base the score on just the objective itself, based the score on fighting over the objective. Remove/ reduce the passive scoring and base it on the fights taking place in/ around a contested objective instead giving the defending team slightly more PPK and chance of ascended / legendary LOOT than the attacking team so it is still important to defend and own the objectives, not just fight over them.

• Highest points and LOOT given to those fighting other players while defending an objective ( Tower, yak, camp, keep ect)

• Next highest points AND LOOT given to those fighting other players while attacking an objective.

• Remove rewarding PvE in a PvP zone ( no more loot from NPC’s instead it comes from players fighting players to encourage PvP action in a PvP zone rather than PvE farming since 99% of the game is PvE farming, it isn’t necessary here. Should be able to obtain everything you can from killing NPC’s by killing players instead.)

Basing the scoring on fighting over objectives rather than just the objective encourages the fight as being the most valuable rather than just the objective. The objective is valuable due to increase loot and PPK buff by owning it but it doesn’t just score points on it’s own by being there. This would not devalue the efforts of any players, but instead require every player to do more PvP to win/ gain loot.

The off hour scoring would still be less than prime time due to less players fighting, but would not take anything away from their individual efforts.

Can we turn off scoring for anytime I’m not logged in? It’s almost like night capping. Also, if anyone logged in that isn’t within my time zone, then it should be classified as night capping. Night capping is all of the following: European time zone if in American servers, OCX time zone, Asia time zone. Only USA prime time should count.

Maybe the NBA should give 10 pts for free throws. That’s what we have in WVW right now.

They have to be careful about how they change it but it needs to change. It’s broken.

If we are going to keep this outdated server architecture, time zones shouldn’t effect points but population should. Given the basketball analogy above… 10 players should not have the same scoring system when playing against 5 players no matter what time of day. This includes NA Prime as well as well as SEA/OCX.

Murphys Law.8561:

At this rate the scoring is going to be the change. All we can do now is hope to the love of god that a-net does not change which time zone you play in effects the amount of points you earn for you server.

Just because one server has a good “night time” guild that does not mean you have to punish them.

This will not effect the NA day time pop that much so stop thinking about yourselves. This is about any EU players on NA servers or vise versa.

There would be no point for our amazing Auzy guilds to play if they are only getting 50% of the points that day crew gets.

This will break wvw, most likely distorty it. If your going to change the point system at least do it without making half of the world’s population feel useless.

No it won’t don’t EU players have there own servers to play on btw? Why are EU players coming over to NA servers and demanding that their time on “NA” servers as it is now worth more then the actual NA players themselves, call me what every you want. But at the same time you are equal or even more in the wrong then me.

This change will mainly discourage EU players from stacking a server in a tier to generate a easy win that they more then likely for what ever reason or another can not get on their own servers.

Next as I said in my post is to give OCX/SEA players their own servers as well if only to give them 3 servers for themselves. This will disocurage OCX/SEA players also from stacking servers for easy wins on NA servers. I do think this is fair for a video game. At this point I don’t even know why I bother.

No one know yet IF this is going to win the poll. No one know yet HOW anet is going to change it. YET LOTS of people already cry before having pain……

Give it a break – See what it is like – If it doesn’t suit your need, you can all cry over about it.