Guild Wars 2

https://feedback.guildwars2.com/en

So if you like or don’t like, let them know.

They needed more polling options. For example " I like linking but needs improvement." would be better than a simple yes or no.

They should have chosen worlds by timezone coverage helping to balance them out instead they merged OCX heavy NA servers with with OCX NA servers and NA prime servers with NA prime heavy servers and that is just bad. It created queues and frustration rather than increased enjoyment at that point while others were still lacking coverage.

Some servers should be merged 3 ways to provide more balanced coverage and some should not be merged at all due to how much population they already have 24 hours a day.

The way they chose which servers to merge is a problem, as well as making the host servers show as full, when they were not prior, nor should they be considered such as when the server they are linked to gets split off they will have to transfer again and it is not right to make them pay more for something that should not have been marked as full in the first place. When servers get unhooked it is going to cause some chaos due to the full status issues and poorly chosen mergers.

If done properly, this could actually resolve the lack of off hours coverage issue to where they can still treat players equally.

Why isn’t this poll stickied?

lil devils x.6071:

Why isn’t this poll stickied?

Lol it’s a phishing hole?

I would avoid any link that asks for your account details unless it’s posted by an Anet employee. If you’ve already done so, maybe time to change your password.

Linking is good. They didn’t do a very good job of it though. Stacked servers don’t need to be linked and coverage should be considered.

No they should not have done server mergers.

What they should have done is allow free transfers from the lower servers to the higher servers.

Some WvW servers have been stuck with PvE servers, which has dragged that server down in rank.

And again WvW is the only reason why there is a gem cost to transfer server, and now anet merged servers. Yet transfer costs are still there!

Get rid of server transfer costs! You dont need it for PvE, sPvP, only WvW which is unfair!

Its hard to measure whether it failed or not until there is an incentive to play WvW. Reward tracks are nice but they give you stuff that most players already have. If you want a legendary weapon you go to EoTM and run a circle for a few days. Badges are gifted like candy from achievement points and serve no purpose outside guild halls and wvw. Map completion was removed because PvE players could fail to cap an objective when they tried.

The question should be to continue with server linking as wvw or revert it back a few years and push players to explore new areas of the game and overcome challenges. Raids were given because they needed challenging content, try capping a garrison with 3 map ques and AC’s everywhere.

Legendary Weapons should require full map completion in WvW and rank 200. 2000 badges of honor with both badges of honor and WvW exp being removed from EotM. We can unlink the servers to see if this will bring in population to support all servers or re enable server linking.

Second way is to create a legendary armor set for wvw. Set the requirements high such as 20k badges of honor and rank 2000 with both wvw exp and badges removed from eotm and any 10 WvW achievements maxed to unlock. I would be more favorable for a kill requirement but those usually turn into a massive farm coordinated between 3 servers to get achievement like ultimate dominator was in the OS.

Grim West.3194:

Linking is good. They didn’t do a very good job of it though. Stacked servers don’t need to be linked and coverage should be considered.

I agree the system needs tweaks, pairings should be more frequently recalculated.
Maybe as much as every match

SailorSpira.9371:

I would avoid any link that asks for your account details unless it’s posted by an Anet employee. If you’ve already done so, maybe time to change your password.

Looks like it uses the same https certificate as this forum so I’m guessing it’s legit, but yeah you are correct.

Internet paranoia is a fascinating beast.

Dawdler.8521:

SailorSpira.9371:

I would avoid any link that asks for your account details unless it’s posted by an Anet employee. If you’ve already done so, maybe time to change your password.

Looks like it uses the same https certificate as this forum so I’m guessing it’s legit, but yeah you are correct.

Don’t state the obvious for the whining person ;D

If you want to leave the issue open to further debate, you have to keep both options below 75%.

I’ve already talked to people that misunderstand this to mean megaservers. As most of us know (or should know) by now, people do NOT read. I’ve also talked to a couple people that misunderstood the wording.

The poll should have absolutely been placed within the WvW subforum and written more simplistic for the tl’dr folks, like this:

Should server linking remain in WvW?

- yes

- no

Skynet.7201:

I’ve already talked to people that misunderstand this to mean megaservers. As most of us know (or should know) by now, people do NOT read. I’ve also talked to a couple people that misunderstood the wording.

The poll should have absolutely been placed within the WvW subforum and written more simplistic for the tl’dr folks, like this:

Should server linking remain in WvW?

- yes

- no

Who has time anymore to read? Joking…

Curious to know how many people misunderstood this Poll.

Once again…ANet needs to do a better job Managing Polls & Forum Posts to garner the right information in guiding the WvW Game Mode.

They’re going through Learning Curves…imho.

Just need to Learn & Live together…that’s all we can do.

Might ADD the following option

- undecided = no

Diku.2546:

- undecided = no

Well undecided is not no. Undecided is undecided. You can argue it’s yes just as much as no with that logic.

Given the forced choice, I’d have to vote yes. Why? Because even now – at least in the EU middle tiers – I cant exactly say it’s crowded. There where simply too many tiers to support the GW2 population. Linking worlds work “in theory”, the problem now is that players of course start to exploit it by stacking the lower populated linked server in higher tiers due to cheap transfer costs. I would rather have seen a complete server merger or redesign of the entire server system sure, but I do think this was better than doing nothing.

Dawdler.8521:

Diku.2546:

- undecided = no

Well undecided is not no. Undecided is undecided. You can argue it’s yes just as much as no with that logic.

Given the forced choice, I’d have to vote yes. Why? Because even now – at least in the EU middle tiers – I cant exactly say it’s crowded. There where simply too many tiers to support the GW2 population. Linking worlds work “in theory”, the problem now is that players of course start to exploit it by stacking the lower populated linked server in higher tiers due to cheap transfer costs. I would rather have seen a complete server merger or redesign of the entire server system sure, but I do think this was better than doing nothing.

Agree… Un-decided is neither…

As you pointed out…exploit stacking will happen & is happening again…given the Core Base Map Mechanic hasn’t changed…imho.

We end up exactly where we started.

Vicious cycle we’re stuck in.

ANet really needs to Change the Core Base Map Mechanic…imho.

Yours truly,
Diku

Possible Full Solution – Google Search – Reboot Base Map Mechanic

The linking was kinda positive for my experience, the only issue i noticed was the size of the server, some small servers ended teamming with small servers as well while fighthing bigger servers, in that points something went wrong, and needs to be taken care.

I dont mind, so i voted yes, but still need some better refining.

very disappointed in these polls by ANET, both in visibility and wording choices. Are they so understaffed now that they have to resort to this kind of pandering? The need for world linking is a band-aid fix for more serious under laying problems. Will they just use this poll to wash their hands clean to say “everything is ok now, we did what the marjority of people wanted”? So sad, so much wasted potential in WvW.

It IS stickied, and it is a legit anet poll…. geez…

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/WvW-Poll-21-May-World-Linking/first#post6166932

I think that the 75% threshold is an issue.

It would be better to find out where the “no” votes are coming from and why.

How about a second question for the no voters to explain why?

Queues
Coverage still an issue
Prefer the low population playstyle
Difficulty merging server personalities

Probably because there’s already a feedback thread on it since linking went live?

All I can say…is please just remove it. My joy in this game is gone for WvW. It’s blob here….wander a map for 15 minutes looking for the map queue. Must play Hardcore 24/7…community destroyed and worse no good options.

Let’s say I get sick of T1 and go T4…okay…great. All the "HOST’ servers are full so my only options are the kitten servers who could be reswapped at any time. So I could spend $20 to switch to what I want as a player and then have that decision reverted and my money WASTED by a server switch I would have NO control over.

It IS NOT FAIR. DO NOT LINK. MERGE IT. At least then I can make a decision that won’t be screwed over later. A game is all about OPTIONS and freedom.

In FPS games you can choose 8v8, 16v16, 32v32, 64v64….there are always size options. In RTS you can do 1v1, 2v2, 4v4…there are size options. The merging removed the option to pick a scale you enjoyed and were comfortable with and left you no real way to relocate without spending gold/real money for something that could be taken away from you without you having any input.

It’s unfair and frankly is destroying the one thing that has kept me enjoying this game for 3 years.

I’ve decided to leave WvW and focus on PVE if the Linking stays the way it is. Even if my guild decides to stick with it. Small servers are going to kill off WvW for small servers.

We Just Don’t Like The Blob Mentality of it.

Roadbull.3457:

Let’s say I get sick of T1 and go T4…okay…great. All the "HOST’ servers are full so my only options are the kitten servers who could be reswapped at any time. So I could spend $20 to switch to what I want as a player and then have that decision reverted and my money WASTED by a server switch I would have NO control over.

It IS NOT FAIR. DO NOT LINK. MERGE IT. At least then I can make a decision that won’t be screwed over later. A game is all about OPTIONS and freedom.

The merging removed the option to pick a scale you enjoyed and were comfortable with and left you no real way to relocate without spending gold/real money for something that could be taken away from you without you having any input.

It’s unfair and frankly is destroying the one thing that has kept me enjoying this game for 3 years.

This is the simple fact that is being missed. But hey, throw people a poll and they feel powerful, and exercise their right to vote.

There are upper tier servers that are absolutely benefiting from this, and some that are not. There are people in lower tiers that are miserable being thrown into upper, and some that ended up loving it.

Either way, the BEST option for people would have been to shut down some low-pop servers, give people a free 1x transfer, and let THEM choose.

But you have a choice. Spinach or mustard greens. There is no green bean option.

Eat your veggies!

I mean…I don’t mean to harp here, but OF COURSE the majority of people are in favor of the linking. The majority of players are on the host servers who are NOT going to experience the pain I mentioned. The people stuck on the guest servers are eternally doomed to be switched and swapped at ANet’s whim with zero right or influence over when or how this happens even if they had chosen as a player to relocate at a COST prior.

Does NOBODY see a problem with this? Because I’m on ET I get to be a second class citizen who has no say in where I go and who I am paired with simply because I am on ET? NO…that is WRONG.

The obvious answer would be to transfer to a HOST server, but guess what…they are all full because that is where all the people already are, and thus they are oblivious to the problem. I am actually 100% UNABLE to correct this issue myself because it has been made literally impossible. No wait…I take that back. I can fix it as long as I’m willing to pay my transfer TAX every few months….

How would YOU feel if you spent 200 gold or $20 or more on a server transfer and then suddenly the next week your were linked with the server you just left? You would be LIVID. That is exactly what can and WILL happen to you if you vote yes to linking. It’s only a matter of time and I am pretty sure when it DOES happen ANet won’t be offering you any compensation in return.

There is such a thing as “the tyranny of the majority,” and this is one time where it is 100% appropriate.

Since ANet is fixated on quick & simple fixes that are Short-Term:

Reverse King of the Hill

Do an inverse pyramid approach.

Use current World Link Beta as a reference.

Weakest World paired with Strongest World.

Weaker Paired World Name is then used to display the Match-Ups.

Stronger Paired World Name then shows up when you mouse hover over the Weaker Paired World’s Name.

Not the best Long Term solution…in regards to WvW health & viability…imho.

Roadbull.3457:

I mean…I don’t mean to harp here, but OF COURSE the majority of people are in favor of the linking. The majority of players are on the host servers who are NOT going to experience the pain I mentioned. The people stuck on the guest servers are eternally doomed to be switched and swapped at ANet’s whim with zero right or influence over when or how this happens even if they had chosen as a player to relocate at a COST prior.

Does NOBODY see a problem with this? Because I’m on ET I get to be a second class citizen who has no say in where I go and who I am paired with simply because I am on ET? NO…that is WRONG.

The obvious answer would be to transfer to a HOST server, but guess what…they are all full because that is where all the people already are, and thus they are oblivious to the problem. I am actually 100% UNABLE to correct this issue myself because it has been made literally impossible. No wait…I take that back. I can fix it as long as I’m willing to pay my transfer TAX every few months….

How would YOU feel if you spent 200 gold or $20 or more on a server transfer and then suddenly the next week your were linked with the server you just left? You would be LIVID. That is exactly what can and WILL happen to you if you vote yes to linking. It’s only a matter of time and I am pretty sure when it DOES happen ANet won’t be offering you any compensation in return.

There is such a thing as “the tyranny of the majority,” and this is one time where it is 100% appropriate.

you make a great point. the majority are on host servers. they may not care whether linking continues or not as their experience may not have changed much. Yet the people that have faced the real culture shock on a guest server are already a minority…..

Bad timing on the poll. Let’s see those scoring changes first, since the objective of server merges was to reduce the amount of lopsided matchups.