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Posted by: Sunreva.8714

Sunreva.8714

OK OK, I realize a problem with my previous thread inquiring about a profession that can solo a keep in 3 minutes and that it’ll take 1.3 years to get the Ultimate Subjugator title. Clearly no one wants to play for 70 hours a week, so I’m shooting for a different title that simply requires casual playing.

The Ultimate Liberator title requires capturing Stone Mist Castle 25,000 times. Totally doable, but because there’s only one SMC, I need a partner on the opposing team who can recap it over and over again.

Here’s how this’ll work:

Sequence A: 5 minutes for me to cap it.
Sequence B: 5 minutes for the enemy to recap it.

Each sequence entails waiting approx. 4 minutes for RI to wear off, then 60 seconds to cap it. (((I figure 15 seconds to break down the outer wall/gate, 15 seconds to break down the inner wall/gate, and 30 seconds to Capture)))

OK, so we have that part down. If Sequence A and B occur without problem, this’ll work out to:

1 cap every 10 minutes for me which equates to 6 SMC caps per hour. Assuming I do this 40 hours per week, this is 240 caps weekly. 52 weeks in a year gives me 12,480 yearly. At this rate, I’ll have the title in 2 years, sometime in January 2017.

So given the constraints that RI will pose, whats the best profession to Solo SMC in 60 seconds? Assume 15 seconds per wall/gate, and then 30 seconds to capture the Lord.

Also, I’ll need a volunteer to recap SMC in the same amount of time. Keep in mind this a 40 hour per week effort, and it’ll take 2 years. But hey, that Ultimate Liberator title sure sounds sweet!

Who’s in?

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Posted by: joneirikb.7506

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I just want to say that I love you.

Semi related, if you arrange this properly with the other server, just take turns hiding on the upper floors while the other is capping, no need to bother with all the walls. Condi Thief p/d still your best bet for safely take down the champs without to much hazzle, especially as you’ll be doing this over and over for hours, so give yourself some leeway for errors

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Posted by: oscuro.9720

oscuro.9720

No offense but this is equally as improbable. People on your server, including your zerg, will try everything to defend it. I have solo’d SMC and it takes far longer than 60 seconds. Plus, you will die 2 out of 10 times.

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Posted by: Jim Hunter.6821

Jim Hunter.6821

Well this is just silly. obviously you and your opposing sever partner can just stay inside sm while you take turns capping, there is no need to break the walls down every time.

I just saved you 30 seconds per flip

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Posted by: Sunreva.8714

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Of course it has to be done like this, considering even this method will take 2 YEARS to complete (assuming 40 hr per week effort, and 60 second caps). Any lesser effort will only dramatically increase the time the title/achievement will take to obtain! I mean, unless the intention is for these achievements to take 6, 8, 10 years. Is that the case?

Unless..wait…could something be wrong with how the titles/wvw achievements are designed? Is that a possibility?

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Posted by: Seera.5916

Seera.5916

Of course it has to be done like this, considering even this method will take 2 YEARS to complete (assuming 40 hr per week effort, and 60 second caps). Any lesser effort will only dramatically increase the time the title/achievement will take to obtain! I mean, unless the intention is for these achievements to take 6, 8, 10 years. Is that the case?

Unless..wait…could something be wrong with how the titles/wvw achievements are designed? Is that a possibility?

The WvW achievements do have some unrealistic numbers.

However, they aren’t designed to be farmed like you’re wanting to do them either. They’re supposed to be something you work toward as you’re playing WvW. ANet did not design these types of achievments to be farmed.

And good luck getting Server 3 to not take SMC and then try to keep it. Or a zerg to come around and install a WP in SMC. Even if it is on Person 2’s server. If someone takes SMC at that point, that server loses the waypoint. I highly doubt ANYONE would just let someone take SMC, especially one with a waypoint.

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

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Unless..wait…could something be wrong with how the titles/wvw achievements are designed? Is that a possibility?

the community already thinks so, as do the devs, and repeatedly asking the question isnt going to change the answer.

and yet nothing gets done about it…

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Posted by: Jim Hunter.6821

Jim Hunter.6821

Of course it has to be done like this, considering even this method will take 2 YEARS to complete (assuming 40 hr per week effort, and 60 second caps). Any lesser effort will only dramatically increase the time the title/achievement will take to obtain! I mean, unless the intention is for these achievements to take 6, 8, 10 years. Is that the case?

Unless..wait…could something be wrong with how the titles/wvw achievements are designed? Is that a possibility?

The WvW achievements do have some unrealistic numbers.

However, they aren’t designed to be farmed like you’re wanting to do them either. They’re supposed to be something you work toward as you’re playing WvW. ANet did not design these types of achievments to be farmed.

And good luck getting Server 3 to not take SMC and then try to keep it. Or a zerg to come around and install a WP in SMC. Even if it is on Person 2’s server. If someone takes SMC at that point, that server loses the waypoint. I highly doubt ANYONE would just let someone take SMC, especially one with a waypoint.

Really? You highly doubt that people would take turns capping something for easy rewards? Have you ever seen eotm?

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Posted by: Hamster.4861

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Again, the class for soloing stonemist is Thief.

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Posted by: Seera.5916

Seera.5916

Of course it has to be done like this, considering even this method will take 2 YEARS to complete (assuming 40 hr per week effort, and 60 second caps). Any lesser effort will only dramatically increase the time the title/achievement will take to obtain! I mean, unless the intention is for these achievements to take 6, 8, 10 years. Is that the case?

Unless..wait…could something be wrong with how the titles/wvw achievements are designed? Is that a possibility?

The WvW achievements do have some unrealistic numbers.

However, they aren’t designed to be farmed like you’re wanting to do them either. They’re supposed to be something you work toward as you’re playing WvW. ANet did not design these types of achievments to be farmed.

And good luck getting Server 3 to not take SMC and then try to keep it. Or a zerg to come around and install a WP in SMC. Even if it is on Person 2’s server. If someone takes SMC at that point, that server loses the waypoint. I highly doubt ANYONE would just let someone take SMC, especially one with a waypoint.

Really? You highly doubt that people would take turns capping something for easy rewards? Have you ever seen eotm?

EOTM isn’t SMC. And I doubt even EOTM has something that goes back and forth that quickly for as long as the OP wants to do it each day.

You can’t reliably expect SMC to flip every 60 seconds for 8 hours a day for 5 days a week. Too many variables. Especially if during the off peak a server puts a waypoint in SMC.

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Posted by: Jim Hunter.6821

Jim Hunter.6821

You can’t reliably expect SMC to flip every 60 seconds for 8 hours a day for 5 days a week.

Of course not. You have to wait for RI to wear off.

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Posted by: Jeknar.6184

Jeknar.6184

Again, the class for soloing stonemist is Thief.

I haven’t seen a thief soloing SMC, I did however seen a engi do it.

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Posted by: Nanyetah Elohi.4852

Nanyetah Elohi.4852

thief can solo smc? haha. I have to level one.

Mine is only lvl 61 and has not figured out how to perma-stealth let alone stay alive long enough to kill the whole smc lord’s room before someone shows up to stop you.

Best I have ever done is a group of four random players. Don’t remember but at least one was heavy armor.

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Posted by: BlueBoy.1236

BlueBoy.1236

I’ve only soloed garri lord once, and that’s with full dire p/d thief. I imagine smc legendary lord will be a lot harder.

The biggest problem i found is not the lord itself. The vets that randomly spawn will screw your solo attempt a lot more than the lord. Their pulls, and blinds comboed with lord huge dmg usually will instadown you.

Oh btw, it’s impossible to solo the lord in under 60secs. With 3ppl, maybe. Solo? i don’t think so

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Posted by: Nanyetah Elohi.4852

Nanyetah Elohi.4852

noticed the spawns are what hurt when you solo because it takes so long. You can stay alive, but the stuff keeps spawning.

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Posted by: SpellOfIniquity.1780

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I’m diagnosing you with crazy.

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Posted by: Malediktus.9250

Malediktus.9250

I’m diagnosing you with crazy.

I believe he just want to show anet how absurdly grindy these achievements are. Noone will ever complete them. WvW and possibly GW2 will be dead before someone achieves these by legitimate means (eg no fly hacking, wall hacking, godmode hacking, trading flips with other factions)

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Posted by: Sunreva.8714

Sunreva.8714

Granted it wasn’t explicitly stated in the first post, but I assumed the logistical absurdity would speak it for itself. The problem is that many WvW achievements are frankly, unobtainable. Unless of course, you commit yourself to flipping SMC within 60 seconds (after RI) nonstop for 40 hours a week, for 2 years. The keep achievement “Ultimate Subjugator” is in a similar boat. You can get that one if you cap a keep every 3 minutes—10 hours per day—7 days per week—365 days per year—you’ll complete it in 1.3 years.

No one will ever complete these, as Malediktus has pointed out.

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Posted by: coglin.1867

coglin.1867

I’m diagnosing you with crazy.

I believe he just want to show anet how absurdly grindy these achievements are. Noone will ever complete them. WvW and possibly GW2 will be dead before someone achieves these by legitimate means (eg no fly hacking, wall hacking, godmode hacking, trading flips with other factions)

Yeah, cause heaven forbid they make it an actual “achievement” to earn the achievements.

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Posted by: SpellOfIniquity.1780

SpellOfIniquity.1780

Granted it wasn’t explicitly stated in the first post, but I assumed the logistical absurdity would speak it for itself. The problem is that many WvW achievements are frankly, unobtainable. Unless of course, you commit yourself to flipping SMC within 60 seconds (after RI) nonstop for 40 hours a week, for 2 years. The keep achievement “Ultimate Subjugator” is in a similar boat. You can get that one if you cap a keep every 3 minutes—10 hours per day—7 days per week—365 days per year—you’ll complete it in 1.3 years.

No one will ever complete these, as Malediktus has pointed out.

Well yes I agree but I took you seriously since I know there are people crazy enough to try it. Look at some of the WvW rank grinders for example. I remember 4 or 5 months ago thinking that no one in the game must be a Diamond Legend but since then I’ve learned of about 3 and have seen a few high ranked Mithril’s as well. I’ve been playing for over a year, every day and I do basically nothing but WvW and I’m only Platinum. So it just shocks me how hard some people must grind to get these ranks/titles, etc.

I apologize for being a smartas_ but I just wouldn’t put it by the community to have someone actually try to achieve those titles. But yeah, they are incredibly ridiculous. I’ve wanted Ultimate Dominator for quite some time myself but I’m only a little under 100k in and it seems like I’ll never get there. I don’t mind there being achievements/titles you actually have to work for, in fact, I like it. What I don’t like is achievements/titles that not only do you have to work for… You have to dedicate every waking hour of your life to attain.

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Posted by: Wanderer.3248

Wanderer.3248

I’d have no problem with them keeping the impossible achievements if there were some other titles available after a more reasonable number of flips. The “ultimate” part of the title always seems a bit vain anyway. How about just a Dominator title that you can let with a “mere” 20k kills.

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Posted by: Offair.2563

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A more realistic undertaking would be offering you a reality check with these outrageous ideas lol.

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Posted by: RKyrk.4761

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best troll, much love. keep up the good work

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Posted by: Malediktus.9250

Malediktus.9250

I’m diagnosing you with crazy.

I believe he just want to show anet how absurdly grindy these achievements are. Noone will ever complete them. WvW and possibly GW2 will be dead before someone achieves these by legitimate means (eg no fly hacking, wall hacking, godmode hacking, trading flips with other factions)

Yeah, cause heaven forbid they make it an actual “achievement” to earn the achievements.

There is a difference between impossible during the lifetime of WvW/GW2 or challenging.

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