Guild Wars 2

So at yesterdays night I had a talk with a guildmate, a pretty lengthy talk about everything and nothing, and at some point he came to express his dissapointment in how AN is not reusing at handfull of possibilities GW1 skins for GW2 – after all the models are there so adapting them to gw2 should be very little effort right? and there were alot of very nice looking armors back in GW1.

This have mixed in my head with forums ongoing talk on WvW legendary armors – with some claiming that considering amont of effort needed to get it, it should have got it’s own skin, and the following idea have come:

Why not give those armors this skins:
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Obsidian_armor

but updated slightly for GW2 standards?
I think most of thsoe who played GW1 would agree that it would be a worthy reintroduction of – what’s basically GW! equivalent of legendary armor. and it would require alot less effort from devs to introduce because what they need to do is to pick their choice from collection for standarised heavy, medium and light weights, and then do minor adaptations for it to fit – with most of effort being in adapting this to charrs….

what do you think guys? yay or nay?
[who knows maybe if the idea gets enought support over here maybe devs will implement it]

PS. I am deeply sorry if this is not the forum section right for this – I thought it should fit in here since it’s about WvW legendary armor after all

GW1 happened 250 years ago. It’d be like us wearing powdered wigs and hose to look like a fine dandy so I’m kind of meh on it.

I’m not a programmer, but I’ve got to think that it would take about as much work to update and implement those armours as it would starting from scratch. After all, we don’t just have human body types anymore.

Lord Trejgon.2809:

after all the models are there so adapting them to gw2 should be very little effort right?

Wrong! The old assets are useless as GW2 is a lot more detailed than GW1. They would have to rebuild everything. They probably couldn’t even use the old artworks as these might lack the necessary detail that GW2 demands.

Then there are different races and other character customizations in the game. The devs have to design multiple sets of armor and deal with clipping issues.

They already have their own skin. You can only make the legendary armor from certain pieces of loot which have their own skins. The high level piece even has an animation.

KrHome.1920:

Lord Trejgon.2809:

after all the models are there so adapting them to gw2 should be very little effort right?

Wrong! The old assets are useless as GW2 is a lot more detailed than GW1. They would have to rebuild everything. They probably couldn’t even use the old artworks as these might lack the necessary detail that GW2 demands.

Then there are different races and other character customizations in the game. The devs have to design multiple sets of armor and deal with clipping issues.

well it’s not like we do not already have few sets pulled straight out of gw1 in the gemstore already…. [first two to come to mind, primeval armor, krytan armor]

updating already made models is much easier than developping one from a scratch….

Zalavaaris.5329:

They already have their own skin. You can only make the legendary armor from certain pieces of loot which have their own skins. The high level piece even has an animation.

WvW legendaries as it stands for now does not have their “own” skin – they retain the skin from the precursor armor. And those gifts are really pricey stuff ^-^

Lord Trejgon.2809:

KrHome.1920:

Lord Trejgon.2809:

after all the models are there so adapting them to gw2 should be very little effort right?

Wrong! The old assets are useless as GW2 is a lot more detailed than GW1. They would have to rebuild everything. They probably couldn’t even use the old artworks as these might lack the necessary detail that GW2 demands.

Then there are different races and other character customizations in the game. The devs have to design multiple sets of armor and deal with clipping issues.

well it’s not like we do not already have few sets pulled straight out of gw1 in the gemstore already…. [first two to come to mind, primeval armor, krytan armor]

updating already made models is much easier than developping one from a scratch….

Zalavaaris.5329:

They already have their own skin. You can only make the legendary armor from certain pieces of loot which have their own skins. The high level piece even has an animation.

WvW legendaries as it stands for now does not have their “own” skin – they retain the skin from the precursor armor. And those gifts are really pricey stuff ^-^

The t3 armor has a very unique effect that rivals normal legendary armor. Now you don’t have to use it but that’s a perk to wvw players. You don’t need to get that armor to get legendary armor but it’s an option! But if you want the legendary look you need to get the t3 skins. That’s the unique skin.

Lord Trejgon.2809:

KrHome.1920:

Lord Trejgon.2809:

after all the models are there so adapting them to gw2 should be very little effort right?

Wrong! The old assets are useless as GW2 is a lot more detailed than GW1. They would have to rebuild everything. They probably couldn’t even use the old artworks as these might lack the necessary detail that GW2 demands.

Then there are different races and other character customizations in the game. The devs have to design multiple sets of armor and deal with clipping issues.

well it’s not like we do not already have few sets pulled straight out of gw1 in the gemstore already…. [first two to come to mind, primeval armor, krytan armor]

updating already made models is much easier than developping one from a scratch….

They weren’t pulled straight out of GW1. They made a suit of armor in GW2 that looked a lot like an armour in GW1 but the meshes are so completely different I doubt it was a matter of updating it.

Zalavaaris.5329:

The t3 armor has a very unique effect that rivals normal legendary armor. Now you don’t have to use it but that’s a perk to wvw players. You don’t need to get that armor to get legendary armor but it’s an option! But if you want the legendary look you need to get the t3 skins. That’s the unique skin.

point is [and was in those discusses I have seen earlier] that it is a T3 skin – and getting T3 is much easier than getting T3 and upgrading it to legendary ontop of that.

Pifil.5193:

Lord Trejgon.2809:

KrHome.1920:

Lord Trejgon.2809:

after all the models are there so adapting them to gw2 should be very little effort right?

Wrong! The old assets are useless as GW2 is a lot more detailed than GW1. They would have to rebuild everything. They probably couldn’t even use the old artworks as these might lack the necessary detail that GW2 demands.

Then there are different races and other character customizations in the game. The devs have to design multiple sets of armor and deal with clipping issues.

well it’s not like we do not already have few sets pulled straight out of gw1 in the gemstore already…. [first two to come to mind, primeval armor, krytan armor]

updating already made models is much easier than developping one from a scratch….

They weren’t pulled straight out of GW1. They made a suit of armor in GW2 that looked a lot like an armour in GW1 but the meshes are so completely different I doubt it was a matter of updating it.

well I didn’t study krytan one too much but primeval is pretty much copy paste with upping resolution of textures…. [for humanoids that is, charr required ofc more adjustments than that]

and then here I thought I had great idea, but seems forums surprisingly disagrees :/
[surprisingly because on release alot of people actually demanded those legendaries to have their own unique skins and now suddenly most are ok with their current lack of thereoff xD]

So what I’m getting is that you guys have way more options. The only way to get the pve legendary armor skins is to make the legendary. And we HAVE to use one set of precursor armor. You can choose which armor to make legendary or you can go for the skins without the legendary effect or you can do both! More options is a gift.

Zalavaaris.5329:

So what I’m getting is that you guys have way more options. The only way to get the pve legendary armor skins is to make the legendary. And we HAVE to use one set of precursor armor. You can choose which armor to make legendary or you can go for the skins without the legendary effect or you can do both! More options is a gift.

and you [raiders – do not mistake with whole of PvErs :P] can have it in much shorter time, and have very visible and blingy on the end of the process while WvW/sPvP ends with it’s “final” skin halfway throught

don’t get me wrong: personally I do not mind how it is right now – but I have seen alot of people on this forum requesting WvW legendary to have it’s own skill, and I understand their points [which seems fair]. my idea was just how to satisfy this demand with much lesser effort than spending another years on developping new sets…

but then suddenly all those people dissappeared :|

When the t3 came out a mass of wvw exclusive players said this armor skin is supposed to be the most prestigious skin available. Also, this was supposed to only be available to long time wvw vets. This sounds like exactly what raid legendary armor is. The t3 also has a unique and flashy effect signifying it’s prestige. This is the legendary effect for the wvw legendary armor. No other skin is needed. It’s super cool and worthy of a legendary title.

I had to specify wvw exclusive players because I am a wvwer myself (it’s a lot of fun turns out and the rewards are cool). I just don’t exclusive play wvw nor do I exclusively raid. I can for sure say I don’t do structured PvP though lol

Zalavaaris.5329:

It’s super cool and worthy of a legendary title.

well except it is not legendary skin but one of available ascended skins….

Lord Trejgon.2809:

Zalavaaris.5329:

It’s super cool and worthy of a legendary title.

well except it is not legendary skin but one of available ascended skins….

It’s on par with the raid legendaries. What you have with the wvw armor is choice. You know how many raiders would kill to get the look without putting in the time to get insights? Hardcore wvw players have the option to only get t2 armor, get t2 and turn it legendary, only get t3, and to get t3 and make it legendary. So many more options. Besides, this mode isn’t about rewards, it’s about the love of the game.

They just developed wvw only skins for us in the ascended gear, now we want to immediately trash that when we upgrade it legendary gear? Only reason I think it’s called legendary is the fact that it’s the only level of gear that can provide changeable stats.

Choppy.4183:

I’m not a programmer, but I’ve got to think that it would take about as much work to update and implement those armours as it would starting from scratch. After all, we don’t just have human body types anymore.

Correct.

Zalavaaris.5329:

Lord Trejgon.2809:

Zalavaaris.5329:

It’s super cool and worthy of a legendary title.

well except it is not legendary skin but one of available ascended skins….

It’s on par with the raid legendaries.

no they dont

they look realy generic and boring
they barely have any real cool effects on them
they don’t transform

WvW legendaries are a Poor mans Legendary….

Some of the Gemstore Outfits look better then the WvW legendary armors..