Guild Wars 2

Let the hunger games begin. I doubt there will be many from RS/AM here.

Really disappointed from reset so far. Only giant zerging for 3 hours now.

lets call it Lag-Wars
As a caster you are sooooo f….

Haha sucks for you Ag <3

Lloa!!! I’m gonna hunt you guys down and force u to swap us out next week!

I played for..an hour just after reset and it was terrible so to speak. Nothing but zergs and lag! I do hope it won’t be like this all weak. Good luck to all!

Been a crappy reset as been stuck defending ag. Which is fruitless as well outmanned.

But just being laughing my kitten off, Twice in 15minutes RS took garrison, and lost it 30s before tick. Hope you dont hate my portals to often. Not used portals so easily since my Gunnars days

And we’re in the promised land of Zap farming. FSP! Did I mention the last time we fought them 3 different guildies got a Zap drop within the matchup? xD

Anyways gl with yo Arrow Carts and the endless zombie march of the Wehrmacht

Btw should I or should I not be advertising TDS on our current tier?

Yawn.. blob blob.. run away when you see an outnumbered group.. blob some more, have some more skill lag..
Boring stuff so far.. Guess we should all go bunker and spam 1 hoping to outlast the opponent.. maybe we can get some reasonable balanced fights after the weekend.

judging from reset looks like Gandara won last week

pretty funny to see Abbadon’s out german playstyling Riverisde on their borderland though

a few nice fights to be had, but seems both servers are all about fictional points over fights so predictable and boring.

So I decided to pull an all nighter because I was bored. Around 6 a.m uk time 50 riverside turned up on abbadons map with golems -_- all that was left of us ag, was me on my arrow cart and even with buffs I still couldn’t stop them….. sad times I will miss you abbadons hills

I only played on Abaddons last night and i can tell u that nor AG nor Abaddons nor RS were outmanned the number of people on each side looked pretty even to me. But yes we all got outmanned – i mean it must be so right?

Never the less i think we all can agree on one thing, that it wasn´t atleast one bit of fun because of the awesome amount of skilllaggs we all had when our zergs clashed. Sadly when this happend no one could do a thing on the map and even killing a dolly felt a bit like lagging out on jormags claw. : /

FURY, this is pathetic. spawncamping in 5 to rEEEaly make sure you get a bag from 1 person coming out from spawn.

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

Yawn.. blob blob.. run away when you see an outnumbered group.. blob some more, have some more skill lag..
Boring stuff so far.. Guess we should all go bunker and spam 1 hoping to outlast the opponent.. maybe we can get some reasonable balanced fights after the weekend.

Thats what AM is all about,you will get one hell of a boring matchup buddy,trust me on that one.I hope you will either tier up or down quickly,Am was one of the most boring servers to play against imo.Balling up,standing still..or running away ( even when they have a full zerg. ) ,camping in towers,they wont do much else really, oh scratch that,they Do dare to come out of their towers at the middle of the night vs 10 people to make some golem rushes,have fun ! And yeah..they Are predictable as hell.

Last night was unplayable with the enormous zergs. Hoping we don’t have a whole week of this.

I was on RS border at reset, must say I’m pretty glad that RS didn’t not just blob up, AM on the other hand… I’ve never seen such big groups. And the most fun is all the /laugh they do on groups of 10-15 from their blobs of 70+
Remember fighting AM when we were in lower tiers, it was actually fun as their guilds at that time wasn’t 60+ people and just were one big group at 1 spot…
Most boring reset I’ve had in a loooong time…

Ah well times change a lot of stuff. Playing in smaller groups was okay till we encountered big groups and/or very organised guilds. Only solution was blobbing up. This is the evolution of WvW as a whole.Though i agree with you that /laugh-spam is poor.

Nauda.3678:

Ah well times change a lot of stuff. Playing in smaller groups was okay till we encountered big groups and/or very organised guilds. Only solution was blobbing up. This is the evolution of WvW as a whole.Though i agree with you that /laugh-spam is poor.

You know how those guilds got organised? They started organising theirselves, and they got better at it.

Blobbing up is not the only solution, it is the laziest one tough.

Not everyone can or wants to play that organised or has the time for it.

Nauda.3678:

Not everyone can or wants to play that organised or has the time for it.

Leading such a guild might be time consuming and requires huge effort, but playing as a part of one requires no more time than any other way of playing.
Nobody and nothing forces anyone to blob, it´s always a choice. But hey, to each his own aguess. If people want to easymode in a full zone blobs, so be it (doesn´t mean i won´t be kittening about it though).

Anybody from Riverside or Abaddon’s Mouth that is bored of the usual zerging is once again welcome to join dueling sessions, usually below the south camp.

One word of advice, if you try to run past me to your zerg and don’t even try to fight, I will kill you and may even taunt at your corpse for not putting up any resistance.

So fight and try to kill me if you can. If you can’t, trying and dying is not the end of the world, it’s a beginning to your becoming a skilled player sometime in the future, not just nameless and faceless zerg fodder.

such a covards you riverside are hiding in invulnerable corners in camps, still not fixes by devs .. until you dont have 60 zerg you barely get out spawn

Here is another Video for your entertainment! Great Reset, but a little skilllaggy :P

EDIT: [ECL] Warrior POV

greetz Effendyr

Tup, BOON, Furry, Fear where are you ? Do something please. The match AG – AR – PS sounnds tasty and should best gvg event in gw2 history

FURY left to GH it’s not fun fighting 80+ blobs on all borderlands, and 100+ on EB. Unfortunately, that’s what RS and AM mostly have done since friday :/ BOON I think have been disbanded, and FEAR only runs during weekdays.

BOON people are playing with ECL right now for what i know

[FEAR] vs RS late night crew last week:

Despite complaints of zerging I’ve been having some mighty epic fights during this match-up. ECL taking Abaddon’s garrison was quite a feat and had a nice little fight for Riverside Hills later in the night.

I’ve seen more open field fights than in a long time. I hope it stays that way throughout the match-up.

Video von yesterday evening event WvWExtern “Training” on Riverside borderlands:

I miss Gandara! cause they have good players, roamers, small groups. Here i see only brainless zergs and coward players with no skills (except very few rs)

I miss Gandara!

Same :/ Tried to find smallscale yesterday and today for hours, almost nothing.

Thanks for the fights on RS bl tonight

Nice to see all servers not excessively blobbing, sure there was some big 40-50+ zergs but not silly number causing lag. Good to see riverside come out more than usual and fight, although still prone to running away/waypointing out or to a different borderland instead of engage in the fight that’s there to be had. Focus more on fighting and less on trying to build siege in the open, you never know you might enjoy it

Some good scraps, a bit of a shame Abbadons gave up pretty early… more of the same please

/kind Regards TUP

Well done on RS taking AG’s garrison earlier, you totally deserved getting it. How you managed to go into it and cap it in under 30s seconds to prevent any contest signs appearing is very impressive. Truly you are an honourable server to fight against.

Seems like Abbadon will win this matchup cause of their incredible nightcrew. And even players + lots of Ac in wooden towers at every map -.-

Feeling your pains AG, FSP knows it only too well. We had people given up wvw because of it, and they still haven’t come back, ME are similar to AM so lets just hope you don’t end up in a tier with them both.

Can people from AG please just stop fighting back. If indeed FURY has moved to GH, let’s just drop in tier and find more enjoyable fights.

KrisHQ If its red… its dead.

Agreed Natzmc, its been many months since we fought abbadons mouth (when we were on piken square) and lol our old rival hasn’t seemed to of changed much… avoiding fights during primetime to come back later in the night en masse and pve door zones for points. I personally couldn’t play that way day in day out. If they wipe a few times they disappear.

Germans servers are really too point Obsessed/fixated… they use every trick in the book and I just don’t understand how they get any enjoyment from that style… (waypoint out of map to avoid a enemy half your numbers for example instead of fight)

Everyone else are fights/action orientated…

Before anyone starts its not a national server thing… because Baruch Bay don’t play that way, and Augury rock don’t either… I don’t remember Kodash doing it so much either (been awhile maybe they changed) Its just the german servers in this tier.

I guess it depends how many gvg orientated/guild zerg orientated guilds a server has. AM has only very few of them so we tend to play the pointgame.

So everybody keeps x-ferring all the time. Interesting.

And last time I checked the goal in WvW still was to capture keeps, towers and camps for scoring points. So I guess AM must do something right there. If you want to compete against an even number, the door to tPvP is over there.

And btw. I might not be the best player and I didn’t play much the last days due to real life, but I can’t say I witnessed any guild group in this match I thought showed impressive gameplay.

The last thing I saw was that guild wrecking ball from AG running around in circles and all was needed to take two steps aside to let them pass and avoid being run over. That continued for 2 minutes until all of them dropped. So I guess all servers have their fair share of casual average-skilled players, haven’t they?

I just am tired of this elitist behaviour, which – funny thing – usually comes from the European servers. See what I did here? Stereotypes for the win. I don’t see much whining from the French servers, neither from the German ones. Maybe I am biased, eh?

Dear AG,
maybe after writing more or less the same texts since 7 weeks or so you could give us a solution for the following problems:

1.) The Blobbing, which is even a problem for us because i think everyone allready noticed that we tend to get skill laggs when zergs collide.

1.1) A blobb without TeamSpeak-Coordination, it so happens to us very frequently that it is very hard to get people onto one TeamSpeak (TS) server, because basically our mindless zombieblobb is just a huge mass of PvE people who would like to get their PoI & Vistas.

1.2) The PvE-Zerg, has one big problem u die they leave…. So u have to blobb with the few people u can get to join TS and our fellow PvE friends will do the same. The problem is if we didn´t have them all of our maps would be pretty empty and this wouldn´t be fun for guilds like [ECL], [BOON] or [Kiss] beacause we could only do 5 vs 5 (Guildraids excluded) or a bunch of randoms who like to PvP and duel.

2.) The PvX-Guilds, which is nearly every guild on RS (i will exclude If and Dw because i don´t know if they´re WvW only – i tend to encounter em only in WvW), we have a huge amount of big guilds on RS but the most people i ever saw of em was around 15 guys which can´t even to be considered being an enemy because they´re your typical PvE punching bags which can´t last one hit (won´t blame em for leaving and saying WvW is no fun at all and just coming back to grab a Vista or PoI or if we´re doing good).

2.1) So [DTK] running with 15 people into 25 of [Ecl] i can´t really see the point in fighting, expect they would be in a better position – same goes for [IF] and [dw] (but to tell u the truth everytime i run with em they tend to fight specially [dw]). I think they´re very sorry but just dying pointless wouldn´t make their people happy.

2.2) The dislike of WvW in our guilds is a problem we should be able to fix, but everyone of us who likes to play it is sorry about that. We tried to fix it but it just won´t work for us.

3.) Random guys who tend to run with our WvW guilds – it´s not very friendly to send em away and most of them won´t leave u anyway….

([4.) Being objectiv oriented seems to be our nature and it´s kinda hard to fight that so i think u have to live with that one])

So after telling us somewhat like 7 weeks, what u dislike about our style and saying that it sucks so hard u should maybe try to give us some good advice how we could solve thes problems.
A server switch is out of question because we don´t really have WvW exclusive guilds and getting rid of PvE player isn´t that easy and can´t be the essance of the solution.

The style we play right know is the style which tends to work in our favour and in our condition…. Everyone of us who likes WvW gets your point but WvW isn´t for an exlcusive bunch of people who know how to play it and thats something RS can show very good.

Greetings SeeMuh

P.S. I know my speeling and grammar isn´t that good but i hope u can understand most of it. Although all numbers are fictive and could be reversed.
If one of my fellow RS-Guilds don´t want to ne named in this text just tell me and i will remove your names, same goes for the AG-Guilds.

@SeeMuh i understand what you say, i think the problem is on the design of wvw until BLOB is the most effective thing we will see it a lot. we need maps 3 times bigger to split people, now is just to small.

@ Crular 1) Yes AM plays for points and get points for that you just need coverage is the only thing that you need for winning, and because i can’t really change the coverage of AG, i’m not mad about that, i try to keep the server near in points because at least the other server came out and play instead of staying in towers all day long.
2) I don’t know which “guild wrecking ball” you’re talking, so are you really sure you had roughfly the same numbers as them? Because if not you can not talk about skill, if you had the same numbers good you’re better than them pls GVG

Tips for everybody:
When we fight in a borderland with my guys we have around 25-30, if we have more i split my group because i don’t want lag and i want fights that are skill based, if on the other side i see 50-60 Rs or Am it’s just boring because the fight is already done with the numbers, and the more that we fight blobs the more is becaming boring, we’re playing less and less wvw, i don’t excpet Anet to fix it because they don’t the manpower to do it fast.

My solution is trying to ask you(RS-AM)to run with multiple groups of around 25-30 so that we can have fun fight, if we keep seeing blob you will win but because we left because there is no fun anymore in WvW.

Plus now we the bullkitten AC range that can shoot from one map to an other one and do insane damage everytime they game just lost fun i can’t do a wvw event and stay 2 hours defending or attacking trebs is just boring.

Tips HOW TO NOT BLOB: Run multiple commander in different location, if you have to many one side send them to the other commander is easy.

If you have less numbers that us of course you should run, we are saying that much bigger numbers than us run away until they have a safe 3:1 this happens everyday is very frustrating.

I think is clear to anyone that outside Primetime and maybe latenight you have more numbers than us and you run with bigger groups than us.

My wish: even if you blob please come out of keeps is not fun attacking a keep because we’re not finding any group running around

If anyone is looking for a fair fight, contact me and i’ll try to organize some sort of gvg, we really want to fight an other group of skilled player but is so hard to find one with all this blobs.

Well that’s the problem: You run with “your guys”. Our Zergs consists mostly off PUGs or people that are not in the same guild and often a large part of them doesn’t even join Teamspeak. Splitting most of the non-TS-Players between Commanders is nearly impossible because it’s already a miracle if they listen to basic commands. And even if we could split them it would get these groups wiped because these groups won’t have a chance against a coordinated group/guild of the same size.

This is what happens when coordinated groups(most of the time guild groups) start to farm randoms or not coordinated players. These players are left with 3 choices:
1. Get killed
2. Stop playing
3. Blob up and kill the enemy with numbers otherwise run and bunker into keeps

i think we’ll both agree that 1&2 are no option so we choose 3. Best example for this is Vizu. They started their massiv Zergs after encountering a lot of strong guildgroups. They didn’t want to loose/get wiped so they started to stack up. It’s not nice but it works. It’s not the most efficient playstyle(more groups of 20~30 people do work better if they are skilled enough) but it’s the playstyle that works for casuals/semi-hardcore players/players without experience.

tldr: Coordinated groups force casuals to blob to maintain some fun.

Naude, do you really dont think it happens we run multiple commander on a map without everyone on Mumble/TS/RC or whatever?
We’re lucky to get 20-30 on our voicecom. That’s the main problem with EU servers to get them on voice because of languagebarriers. You guys have the same language and therefor have a lot easier way to communicate either by typing or speaking.
But you should still be able to run on map with multiple commanders with a group of 20-30 on each. Who cares if we meet DTK when I’m leading the Gladians of AG and our 20-30man group dies to DTK, they run 15-25? We had a fight, our Gladians hopefully learned something, including myself ofc. Still dont need to blob up to 80+ to be certain you win because of the skillag you create then….
Havn’t rly seen any AM guilds that run alone, except the one huge 70+ guild that I dont even count as a guildraid when u run that many people.

@SeeMuh, AG dont only got guilds of 25+ we also got some that have 10-20 people running, got NP, WvW, rddt (sometimes or mostly now?), DRIP, iSpy, NR, LD, BB and a lot more (sorry for missing some of you). It does take some time to make this guilds, and yes, not all of them originaly comes from AG. But just try to get a guild group of 10-20 people running together. Start your own guild for that sake if you dont have any other guilds on your server, it costs u 1 silver to create one? So this is for example one solution on one of your questions This is not something that will happen in 1, 2, 3, it takes a bit of time, ups and downs. But in the end, it’s worth it

Nope splitting doesn’t work. At least for the non-TS-Players. They always run to the commander who has more succsess. As soon as one commander wipes once most of them run to the other commander who just capped a tower or stop following anyone. So that never really worked out in the past. Sad but true. While international servers have communication problems they have the advantage that because of their communication problems they are more into running with their guild. AM has only very few of these guilds that run their own groups.
Btw. I’m talking about AM here. Don’t know how things run on RS.

After 7 weeks we´re talking to each other like normal human beings. I like the flow of the chat so far. :P

@kribre – i know that AG doesn´t only have big guilds it would be insulting to say so. Thats what i meant with numbers could be reversed. ;P
But the second part is a lot harder because i like my guild even if it is a PvE guild and we can only mobilize 5 guys to play WvW – I played the last 5 years of “Guild Wars 1” in this guild and GW2 since release (I really don´t want to leave em).
Thats altough the whole point we have alot of traditional GW1 guilds which have the slight rule that u have to represent them. Otherwise it would be pretty easy. :/
(sadly most of them seem to be PvE ones)

Maybe we can get some of them to at least play WvW as “Riversideguild Xyz”

Greetings SeeMuh

P.S. thx for the 1 vs 1´s with the Aurora Warrior near Abaddons bay

@Nauda You guys could try the control + t on the guy leading in TS. Which makes the pugs you have on TS not see were you guys are. This is also the way most of organized guilds run aswell. By doing this, you will hopefully lose a lot of the people that makes you a big blob. Not just that, but it also removes certain “rallybots” from your group aswell.

@SeeMuh I apoligize for not reading to well then, English is not my first language^^ Is there anyway that you could maybe make a guild for WvW-representation only? Which you only represent when you do WvW-events/raids. AG had/have some of this teams as they are called, we have FEAR that is still going strong, we also used to have FATE, which unfortunately the leader have changed server as there is way to much blobs in this tier. Note, this is guild-tags that are only to be used at their event’s, they are never used outside of the events- This might be something the guilds from GW1 could agree with doing?

Just trying to help you out with getting a better playing experience, which also helps all the servers and individuals^^

If anyone is up for any 1vs1’s just give me PM. Been roaming around on my mesmer and ele almost all day to try find some, but can’t find any almost, most people run or WP

But if we only have one visible commander the Randoms leave after a wipe(this is no theory this is proven numerous times). Also we got quite a lack of people who want to command so we’re lucky if we can maintain one commander at a time on homeland.

If you got multiple people who want’s to command, then it shouldn’t be hard to split up in smaller groups Rly dont see the problem then^^

Read again: we lack people who want to command;)

Wamgor.9347:

Germans servers are really too point Obsessed/fixated… they use every trick in the book and I just don’t understand how they get any enjoyment from that style… (waypoint out of map to avoid a enemy half your numbers for example instead of fight)

Everyone else are fights/action orientated…

Yer old warrior server!

Typical TUP: Showing up and joining the zerg when the other server has outmanned buff, after FURY, NP and others fought (together!) against a not outmanned opponent.

Things like this for sure happen on all servers, but just one or two deny it.