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Posted by: elikal.7356

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Acidic mood in chat since tournament and hax/cheat suspect
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I used to enjoy WvW as my main activity. But recently… I feel like is has be soured a lot. I play on Yak’s Bend, and usually that’s a very friendly server. But the grouping we faced in the last 2 weeks have been continually going down the drain. I know, when things go bad, that’s to be expected. But seriously! I can’t stand it no longer, so I quit the WvW until another server shuffle comes on Friday.

I really think the matches of the tournament are horrible. I dunno what mechanics ANEt has employed, but both Fort Aspen (FA) and even more so now Stormbluff Island (SBI) have been overwhelmingly powerful. Yaks was in both matches the 2nd, I can’t imagine how the 3rd ranked may feel. After a time I hear FA and SBI are actually belonging in the Gold League, not our Silver League, but they played bad on purpose. I would not even think anyone would do that, because it sounds so hilarious and idiotic. Either way, IMVHO the entire matchup system is a catastrophe. In the first week we steamrolled the enemy, now we are being steamrolled, both isn’t fun, because in both cases you don’t make any meaningful XP. So I dont understand the zeal of powerful servers to WANT to have weak competition, because I found such matches dull and they give much less XP than balanced matches.

Second, maybe ANet should seriously monitor the chat. I hear commanders have been harassed and harrass each other now. Other commanders entirely dropped form the radar. As I said so many times: the WvW system just doesn’t allow the 2nd and 3rd ranked to really catch up. Once the first ranked is on top, there is a bad dynamics against the 2nd and 3rd, because people start to leave. Since the offense is WAY much more powerful than the defense, it further supports the First Ranked and makes catching up virtually impossible.

Now, everyone suspects anyone as spy, the mood is on the floor! And that’s just proof that the matchup and the entire WvW system simply doesn’t work. And then there is of course the problem that some servers had entire WvW guilds, so when your pick-up-Zerg is confronted by a pure guild Zerg, well guess who wins. All this is the responsibility of ANet to balance somehow. The players can do just so much! But I am just tired of either steamrolling over the enemy or being steamrolled over. That’s just totally absurd.

And one more thing about hax: I have seen small duel of 3 vs 3 or so in the WvW maps, and sometimes the health drop of some chars just doesn’t seem right. When 8 people take almost a minute to kill an Ele, or a Warrior fighting against my Ranger doesn’t get ANY damage for over 30 seconds, I know that is simply not possible. So either there are some bugs, or some people have cheats. Both feels equally troubling.

So. I just had to write this. As it is, WvW is profoundly soured to me. All the acidic comments. And it is so POINTLESS. SBI just has 5-10 times as many people, and I am just tired of being cannon fodder. The matchups are just absurd, and the entire WvW mechanic has a waaaay to weak defensive system. Once the enemy is ahead a certain point, you simply CANT catch up. Oh and dont even begin about clever strategy. In the long run, only superior number and superior gear counts. It just doesn’t make sense to put a casual server against hardcore WvW pro servers, and that’s exactly what’s happening now. We have good commanders and good players, but they are casual players most of them. Now the mood is down the drain, and all the arguing makes me sad and sick, so I can’t log in anymore, because it just drags me down. Didn’t think a hobby supposed to distract me and lift me up would actually more drag me down.

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Posted by: SpehssMehreen.5897

SpehssMehreen.5897

I think the correct word is Toxic, theres little anet or people on the forums can do, its primarily a community problem

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Posted by: elikal.7356

elikal.7356

I think the correct word is Toxic, theres little anet or people on the forums can do, its primarily a community problem

Ah ok sorry, English is not my first langauage.

I know ANet can’t do anything about that directly. But change the system, because if it goes on like this I am away. This has just developed sad.

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Posted by: Peetee.9406

Peetee.9406

The problem is in snowballing. You said it yourself, once one server gets an advantage it’s nearly impossible for the other servers to catch back up. Dev team acknowledges this is an issue and it’s trying to work on a solution through the collaborative development thread.

But try to remember it’s just a game. If you’re not having fun, take a break. The sPvP in this game is quite an enjoyable change of pace from the WvW scene. I’m sure there are those players on your server and the other servers that will harass you, tell you that you’re bad, or call you a quitter for taking a break. You can either ignore them or report them, bullying isn’t tolerated around here.

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Posted by: Furiousbeard.7602

Furiousbeard.7602

Just an FYI, FA didn’t tank or lose to be in Silver on purpose. It came down to the rise of SBI (which I agree should be in Gold along with FA) and the RNG system and the last couple matches before leagues started. FA’s ranking was eroded by playing lower tiered servers while SOS and SBI were able to earn ranking. Eventually, Maguuma was able to hold on for Gold league and SBI and FA stayed in Silver.

On a side note, if you play a ranger in wvw, you’re going to have a bad time. Just my opinion.

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Posted by: selan.8354

selan.8354

Just an FYI, FA didn’t tank or lose to be in Silver on purpose. It came down to the rise of SBI (which I agree should be in Gold along with FA) and the RNG system and the last couple matches before leagues started. FA’s ranking was eroded by playing lower tiered servers while SOS and SBI were able to earn ranking. Eventually, Maguuma was able to hold on for Gold league and SBI and FA stayed in Silver.

On a side note, if you play a ranger in wvw, you’re going to have a bad time. Just my opinion.

pretty much this. stop attacking other servers with stuff u assume befor u know the real story. also a lot of players didnt log in after being crushed by t1 servers for 6 weeks straight. we did not tank. most of the people wanted to stay in gold!

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Posted by: Ikaros.7812

Ikaros.7812

I think the correct word is Toxic, theres little anet or people on the forums can do, its primarily a community problem

People need to start doing these toxic offshoot events in WvW, I think failing them is the leading cause for all this toxicity.

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Posted by: Reverence.6915

Reverence.6915

Low morale is a big issue in WvW. It’s extremely difficult to come back from a bad reset night, and even harder when you’re outnumbered in 2-3 out of the 4 maps.

I wonder if SBI and FA belong in gold though. Looking at TC, SoS and Mag scores (and tactics), I doubt they would’ve done any better…

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Posted by: Banzie.5248

Banzie.5248

IoJ is bottom of silver, we’re having a blast I can tell you. Stop taking the game so seriously and play for fun this league season, If any server other then SBI and FA has the delusions of coming in first… well I got some bad news for you.

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Posted by: Adahilia.3678

Adahilia.3678

Low morale is a big issue in WvW. It’s extremely difficult to come back from a bad reset night, and even harder when you’re outnumbered in 2-3 out of the 4 maps.

I wonder if SBI and FA belong in gold though. Looking at TC, SoS and Mag scores (and tactics), I doubt they would’ve done any better…

We definitely did try hard against SoR, which was our deciding match to get into gold. After the weekend we had lost a good portion of our fair weathers, so we were in the same position you guys are in now. Morale was very low. We are only now starting to get those people back on top of getting more transfers. We can’t control either of those things. I do feel bad for you guys, but I also know if the roles were reversed you guys would be doing the same to us.

I don’t necessarily think that the league idea was a bad one, but should have been done differently. 4 tiers of 6 instead of 6/9/9 would definitely have been better, but lower pop servers would still be in a bad place. It also did not help the situation with Anet offering 1/2 off transfers the week before the league started. A few servers that would have done well in silver lost several guilds to either gold or the top silver servers which has really skewed the outcome of the matches.

For those people still sticking it out and making the best of the matches, keep on keeping on.

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Posted by: Novability.4718

Novability.4718

no, we did not “play bad” on purpose. Before season 1, we got stomped by SOR. check the history my friend.

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Posted by: Sam Gem.1246

Sam Gem.1246

SoR gave up on Blackgate, and I honestly thought SoR would defeat them. But once a server is too behind to catch up, it’s easier to give up than to try to motivate hundreds of strangers. I was really hoping SoR would defeat Blackgate….

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Posted by: Furiousbeard.7602

Furiousbeard.7602

Just an FYI, FA didn’t tank or lose to be in Silver on purpose. It came down to the rise of SBI (which I agree should be in Gold along with FA) and the RNG system and the last couple matches before leagues started. FA’s ranking was eroded by playing lower tiered servers while SOS and SBI were able to earn ranking. Eventually, Maguuma was able to hold on for Gold league and SBI and FA stayed in Silver.

On a side note, if you play a ranger in wvw, you’re going to have a bad time. Just my opinion.

stop attacking other servers with stuff u assume befor u know the real story. also a lot of players didnt log in after being crushed by t1 servers for 6 weeks straight. we did not tank. most of the people wanted to stay in gold!

Why are you quoting me?

I’m from FA and I know very well what I’m talking about.

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Posted by: Burpengary.5160

Burpengary.5160

I also play on Yaks Bend . Contrary to the OP I have really enjoyed our last 2 weeks. Sure we have been out numbered.

I play at different times. Got most of the achievements completed. 20plus guildies ran around laughing and joking running over SBI and in turn getting run over.

FA are far more skilled and without running stacking and buffing you would be insta killed. This week what the hell just run in .

Some garrison defences have been epic and have gone on wave after wave. wxp and bags galore. Who cares about ppt this last two weeks are just for fun. That was very clever SBI waiting on top of ybbl garrison and only sending part of your defense down took us awhile to sort you out.. You then came straight back but whilst you got our garri we jumped and took your upgraded SM.

So ok we are vastly outnumbered but it has been a lot of fun for all sides. I play because Benders are a great community we have our moments as all do but we fight with what we have and are good at it

Respect to everyone on IOJ and SBI for this week and no SBI and FA didn’t tank that was the stupid glicko system that dropped us 4 spots 1 week and put us up 3 the next and I regret it affected you both as well

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Posted by: Chris.3290

Chris.3290

SoS and Maguuma were 7th and 8th when #6 Dragonbrand completely imploded. At the same time, FA lost a few key guilds due to internal politics.

FA nearly lost to SoS after key guilds left in the middle of their match with JQ while SBI beat Maguuma and they both destroyed DB.

The following week, Maguuma was really strong against FA until Wednesday when IoJ imploded at the last second and FA got a fresh infusion of numbers.
That same week, SBI wilted in the face of SoR’s number (they were not, and maybe still not ready for primetime) and they failed to gain enough rating to get gold despite the efforts of SoR to get SBI into Gold.
Hence, this is why it’s SBI and FA doing curbstomp battles, instead of SoS and Maguuma.

It probably would have been fairer to the Silver League to get Maguuma and SoS, especially since Maguuma would have sent people to Gold League, giving YB Silver and while SoS would win; the fights in NA prime would be fun (of course, we might have gotten IoJ’s transfers in that case.)

All is water under the bridge though because both SoS and Maguuma are having a blast in T1. We don’t feel any stress because we don’t have to worry about where we will place. Additionally it’s fun to get to be the spoiler in a match up with two T1 servers. The rage is palpable when a good 2v1 gets going.

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Posted by: elikal.7356

elikal.7356

Just an FYI, FA didn’t tank or lose to be in Silver on purpose. It came down to the rise of SBI (which I agree should be in Gold along with FA) and the RNG system and the last couple matches before leagues started. FA’s ranking was eroded by playing lower tiered servers while SOS and SBI were able to earn ranking. Eventually, Maguuma was able to hold on for Gold league and SBI and FA stayed in Silver.

On a side note, if you play a ranger in wvw, you’re going to have a bad time. Just my opinion.

I guessed some servers thought like, hey let’s rather be top in Silver than bottom in Gold. But maybe I am overthinking it. I met tons of FA people in dungeons and ALL were very friendly, so my image of FB server is very positive. ^^

Strangely I haven’t met a single SBI guy in a dungeon ever. I always wondered how the servers are. Alas, we have no server forums. That would be interesting.

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Posted by: elikal.7356

elikal.7356

Just an FYI, FA didn’t tank or lose to be in Silver on purpose. It came down to the rise of SBI (which I agree should be in Gold along with FA) and the RNG system and the last couple matches before leagues started. FA’s ranking was eroded by playing lower tiered servers while SOS and SBI were able to earn ranking. Eventually, Maguuma was able to hold on for Gold league and SBI and FA stayed in Silver.

On a side note, if you play a ranger in wvw, you’re going to have a bad time. Just my opinion.

stop attacking other servers with stuff u assume befor u know the real story. also a lot of players didnt log in after being crushed by t1 servers for 6 weeks straight. we did not tank. most of the people wanted to stay in gold!

Wow. Are you from SBI?

That’s sad, sorry to hear it. Well crushing us Yaks this week must be a relief then, hehe. Interesting to hear the other side of the story. God, I can only imagine how it must be to be crushed 6 weeks straigh! whimper

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Posted by: Gamadorn.2670

Gamadorn.2670

Also as for the defensive note…I would rather have the ability to plow down a gate quickly then having a keep or gate much easier to defend and harder to flip. Especially outnumbered. If your outnumbered the way it is…at least you can hit and flip things before a large zerg responds…..if defense was improved significantly the outmanned server would NEVER be able to flip ANYTHING before the more populated server gets defense to it….so ninja’ing becomes harder which ends up truthfully making it harder for the smaller server. I know its frustrating (especially when we were outmanned by FA and SBI) to try and defend structures especially if they are paper, but it can still be done. I just think improving defense would end up hurting the less populated server more and it would definitely benefit servers like mine (Dragonbrand) that has a SEA population or a night crew that flips many things over night. You would come back to try and reclaim you BL and it would be that much harder to do…

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Posted by: jessiejay.3625

jessiejay.3625

“LISTEN….I think we have more spies” hah I did too watch commanders fight last night over something stupid. Most tactical suggestions they only did on TS+verfied. No one wants to type anymore. Calling people out of TS use PUGs who will mess up their private zerg mobs.

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Posted by: Gamadorn.2670

Gamadorn.2670

“LISTEN….I think we have more spies” hah I did too watch commanders fight last night over something stupid. Most tactical suggestions they only did on TS+verfied. No one wants to type anymore. Calling people out of TS use PUGs who will mess up their private zerg mobs.

I type when I can..but frankly…when your in a fight and the commander needs to call out things in a fight as well as actually fight…you don’t have time to type that kitten out in chat lol.

I do agree that outside of fights, when you’re heading somewhere or planning on going to defend…I try to type that into the chat…but in fights there is simply no way thats going to happen and frankly the guys or “pugs” that are not in TS or some VOIP become a liability when things are happening rapidly on the battlefield…

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Posted by: Xsorus.2507

Xsorus.2507

The servers are ranked by population, Anet might not believe it, but its true.

So naturally the Leagues will be determined by Population.

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Posted by: Chris.3290

Chris.3290

Just an FYI, FA didn’t tank or lose to be in Silver on purpose. It came down to the rise of SBI (which I agree should be in Gold along with FA) and the RNG system and the last couple matches before leagues started. FA’s ranking was eroded by playing lower tiered servers while SOS and SBI were able to earn ranking. Eventually, Maguuma was able to hold on for Gold league and SBI and FA stayed in Silver.

On a side note, if you play a ranger in wvw, you’re going to have a bad time. Just my opinion.

stop attacking other servers with stuff u assume befor u know the real story. also a lot of players didnt log in after being crushed by t1 servers for 6 weeks straight. we did not tank. most of the people wanted to stay in gold!

Wow. Are you from SBI?

That’s sad, sorry to hear it. Well crushing us Yaks this week must be a relief then, hehe. Interesting to hear the other side of the story. God, I can only imagine how it must be to be crushed 6 weeks straigh! whimper

He/She is from FA.

To be a little snarky, FA complaining about 6 weeks is proof that they weren’t up for Gold League. There was no concious decision to tank, but they chose to not be in Gold via low turn out and poor showing against a servers they enjoyed significant coverage advantages against.

To FA’s credit, I’m sure the utter boredom after week 1 has them wondering if they really got the best of the deal.

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Posted by: Gahzirra.8639

Gahzirra.8639

Just an FYI, FA didn’t tank or lose to be in Silver on purpose. It came down to the rise of SBI (which I agree should be in Gold along with FA) and the RNG system and the last couple matches before leagues started. FA’s ranking was eroded by playing lower tiered servers while SOS and SBI were able to earn ranking. Eventually, Maguuma was able to hold on for Gold league and SBI and FA stayed in Silver.

On a side note, if you play a ranger in wvw, you’re going to have a bad time. Just my opinion.

stop attacking other servers with stuff u assume befor u know the real story. also a lot of players didnt log in after being crushed by t1 servers for 6 weeks straight. we did not tank. most of the people wanted to stay in gold!

Wow. Are you from SBI?

That’s sad, sorry to hear it. Well crushing us Yaks this week must be a relief then, hehe. Interesting to hear the other side of the story. God, I can only imagine how it must be to be crushed 6 weeks straigh! whimper

He/She is from FA.

To be a little snarky, FA complaining about 6 weeks is proof that they weren’t up for Gold League. There was no concious decision to tank, but they chose to not be in Gold via low turn out and poor showing against a servers they enjoyed significant coverage advantages against.

To FA’s credit, I’m sure the utter boredom after week 1 has them wondering if they really got the best of the deal.

The FA showing up now is not the one that was demoralized against T1, the transfers of IoJ core WvW guilds did bolster them. Had the IoJ xferred to YB this would be a much better match up…but the top servers got stacked more.

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Posted by: Pyroatheist.9031

Pyroatheist.9031

What actually happened to FA is that we got a bunch of transfers the day before leagues started. We ticked +500 against mag for about 3 hours.

At that point, all the transfers realized that if they kept that up, FA would pop up into gold, so they stopped playing fora few days. Now, FA is ridiculously overpopulated for silver league, and stomping everyone else because of it.

That being said, I’m glad we’re in silver league. As much as I have sympathy towards the servers that we are stomping, I’d rather be the stomper than the stomped, and that’s the only choice that was presented to us, because going into gold league would mean 7 weeks of hell courtesy of JQ/SoR/BG.

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Posted by: Nanyetah Elohi.4852

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It’s fun to beat JQ/SoR/BG even if only in a few places for a little while.

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Posted by: deracs.1762

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I also play on Yak’s Bend, and have seen some of the sour talk that has been going on recently in map chat. I think some of those players need to step back, take a breath, and look at realistic options. If you are worrying about PPT when playing a FA or SBI then you are in for a world of disappointment. For the sake of argument if the league had included FA and SBI into gold league, then the rest of the servers would be complaining about Yaks, and DB.
You have to take the bad with good. Look for enjoyable things to do during a week when we are getting trounced. Roam, try an alt, try new builds, practice the 5 man ninja Hills take, etc. if you need a break, take the week off. It is a game, and I know the pvp population have a tendency to take it a bit to serious, but its just not that important. Think how bored SBI has been this week at times when they own all 4 maps at the same time.

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Posted by: Chris.3290

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Every server from SoR down has matches that are stacked against them. Just take your victories when you can and play for fun over ppt.

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Posted by: Gulagman.9045

Gulagman.9045

Listen to the commanders. The influx of PVE players had died down, but it still doesn’t excuse the amount of really stupid mistakes a lot of commanders see all the time. The YB militia quality has gone down a bit, but I expect it to improve once and for all after ALL of the PVE/Achievement hunters leave. It’s gotten a lot better since FA last week. SBI this week is unbalanced, but morale has been high. Two weeks of curbstomping will do that to a server. We’ll recover next week against DB. Should be much more balanced in terms of numbers and coverage.

Keep in mind a lot of our guys didn’t care about PPT until the leagues thing. Forcing a lot of the WvW guilds to play PPT is different instead of seeking our good fights.

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Posted by: Mada.5319

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To be a little snarky, FA complaining about 6 weeks is proof that they weren’t up for Gold League. There was no concious decision to tank, but they chose to not be in Gold via low turn out and poor showing against a servers they enjoyed significant coverage advantages against.

It’s just selan…
I don’t think having your guilds bought by T1 servers constitutes as tanking. Also, Maguuma’s NA did massive overtime to make sure they got gold.

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

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The best thing about Piken is when we are getting our butts handed to us, it just makes our Russians angrier and the results from that can be pretty epic, lol.

That said, you can turn your map chat around by talking about something/anything else. Don’t like what’s being said? Change the conversation.

Best of luck, nothing worse than a toxic map chat, it winds up becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Posted by: selan.8354

selan.8354

Just an FYI, FA didn’t tank or lose to be in Silver on purpose. It came down to the rise of SBI (which I agree should be in Gold along with FA) and the RNG system and the last couple matches before leagues started. FA’s ranking was eroded by playing lower tiered servers while SOS and SBI were able to earn ranking. Eventually, Maguuma was able to hold on for Gold league and SBI and FA stayed in Silver.

On a side note, if you play a ranger in wvw, you’re going to have a bad time. Just my opinion.

stop attacking other servers with stuff u assume befor u know the real story. also a lot of players didnt log in after being crushed by t1 servers for 6 weeks straight. we did not tank. most of the people wanted to stay in gold!

Why are you quoting me?

I’m from FA and I know very well what I’m talking about.

weird it dint print the pretty much this even though i wrote it . i wanted to agree with u ….weird.

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Posted by: selan.8354

selan.8354

To be a little snarky, FA complaining about 6 weeks is proof that they weren’t up for Gold League. There was no concious decision to tank, but they chose to not be in Gold via low turn out and poor showing against a servers they enjoyed significant coverage advantages against.

It’s just selan…
I don’t think having your guilds bought by T1 servers constitutes as tanking. Also, Maguuma’s NA did massive overtime to make sure they got gold.

im not complaining. its sorta what happened when facing jq after jq got stacked like crazy. then jq bought one of our core na guilds and fa’s fairweathers went in hiding which demoralized many of us. mag was really pushing hard to get into gold league and hit us when we were pretty much demoralized and then we got some new guilds and with the influx of pve players fa regained its morale and everyone came out to play again.
a lot of us would have loved the gold league but personally i didnt feel we were ready for it at all. we still have our weakest time slot when other t1/t2 servers have a good -excellent coverage, so yeah we would have been trashed in gold league, but we still would have put up a fight.
we arent afraid of t1, its just very intense and tiring as we put in overtime to cover our weak timeslot.

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Posted by: Aiyumi.4760

Aiyumi.4760

SBI, as a server, surely didn’t decide to tank, but in the week (maybe two… but I don’t recall) before league play, I can say that one of the largest WvW guilds on SBI was almost completely absent, and this was intentional according to a friend of mine in this guild. When league play started they turned out in force. IMNSHO, this guild’s absence made the difference between SBI being in Silver instead of Gold.

I hope Anet addresses this problem by making the reward for the last place in Gold significantly better than first place in Silver, and similarly for Silver and Bronze. Then next time maybe we won’t have to deal with such nonsense.

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Posted by: Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046

I think the correct word is Toxic, theres little anet or people on the forums can do, its primarily a community problem

False , not a community problem..

Anet knew everything was lobsided from the very beginning, they just never bothered to create a fair matchmaking system, server population balance system or even thought about creating an equal playing field. It just shows a very lazy, incredibly lazy , non customer directed way of dealing with a Gamemode they used to pull 50% of it’s playerbase in. It’s also the reason why the game is now missing 50% of it’s pvp playerbase that started gw2 with high hopes..

Iow, the players were cheated, the developers now having to pick up the slack that the people who cut short funds and developing have created are also cheated and the brand guildwars has been cheated even more.

kitten happens when money is involved especially if it involves people who couldn’t give a rats kitten about the product and only focus on sales. Right? NC-Soft?

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Posted by: aspirine.6852

aspirine.6852

I can get very frustrated in map chat. People are just happily doing there ap thing and do not help or even want to help. This in combination of constantly being overrun by enormous guildgroups that seem to think they need to have 3-1 in numbers to kill random groups does not help either. The league is made for the gold and silver league, in the bronze it can be a terrible time.

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Posted by: Rigel.3092

Rigel.3092

Defeatist attitudes, got to love them and then hate them.

As for you Merlin, Anet should never regulate server population no more than it is now. To go any further, so as to make it “fair” for those of you whining and crying about server population balance, would be problematic and have more negative than positive consequences.

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Posted by: Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046

Defeatist attitudes, got to love them and then hate them.

As for you Merlin, Anet should never regulate server population no more than it is now. To go any further, so as to make it “fair” for those of you whining and crying about server population balance, would be problematic and have more negative than positive consequences.

Yet all other games out there in the world have equal team balance and population limits.
I’m in a low pop server, but honestly i couldn’t care about balance, since that ship has sailed a year ago. All i look forward to is the overflow map of WvW.

I don’t think many people will disagree when it’s stated that server bound WvW is a bad idea. There are so many ways to create a fair~ish playfield trough design that argueing against it would be irrelevant.
Yet we have to accept that reality is far from logic in this case.

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Posted by: Dream In A Dream.7213

Dream In A Dream.7213

As far as toxic /m chat in wvw is concerned what you see on YB isn’t bad. We had maybe a few ragequiting karma train commanders and a few backseat commanders arguing in chat. Thats not bad and has nothing to do with leagues(which I hate with passion) or even FA or SBI. A week before we were destroying BP the same way and I am sure they had same issues. Which are that people like to assign blame if they are outnumbered. It is an issue that anet has to change, but it is not bad on YB.
The fights vs FA and SBI have been great so far. Lots of fights, great showing by yaks everywhere even if a bit disorganized. All in all I think we aren’t in a position to whine about other server numbers/coverage as we are probably the 3rd pop server in silver when our fairweathers show up.

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Posted by: juno.1840

juno.1840

imho Yak’s was getting toxic before the season started. I’m in one of the multiple guilds that left. We found TC to be a much friendlier and cooperative environment. However even on TC it’s been a little more edgy since the season started — although nothing like what we experienced in our final days on YB.

Part of me thinks that someone in ANet was thinking “hey, wanna see something funny? Watch this…”

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Posted by: Serenity.8246

Serenity.8246

imho Yak’s was getting toxic before the season started. I’m in one of the multiple guilds that left. We found TC to be a much friendlier and cooperative environment. However even on TC it’s been a little more edgy since the season started — although nothing like what we experienced in our final days on YB.

Well, Yaks was getting bad last spring but I have to say YB is fantastic now. I think some of our more casual WvW’ers thought we’d do better against FA and SBI and tensions ran high. What the OP has seen is few and far between and is generally seen when a server is outnumbered and tactics are changed to deal with it. Usually this type of behavior is done by people not in comms and/or who don’t read the forums. Communication of the changes was just needed and seems to have cut out the silly comments.

I’m sad the OP’s morale was affected by jerky people. I get it though, because people like that annoy me too.

Our morale has been soo much better since shortly after the new forums went up. We have some great peeps that have stepped up in YB. The leagues have brought up our game, I feel. I mean, it doesn’t change matches with FA and SBI but it has improved our game and made us look at new ways to play for ppt…which we have not really done as a server. It’s been great!

I’m am very glad [WAR] is happy on TC. I still miss the people and guilds that left, but it seems the changes have worked out the best for everyone.

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