Guild Wars 2

I’d like to duel my friends and server buddies in the arena to test out my builds and skill against them. When the duel is accepted, only those two people can hurt each other.

It’s not in a PvE zone so PvErs have no argument against it.

Also, do not suggest to use a PvP server for dueling. The builds are not remotely the same and the servers get trolled by anti-dueling PvErs who hop on and interrupt duels. They’ll follow you into various designating dueling servers as well. It’s sad.

Thoughts?

Dueling only adds more toxicity to an already toxic game, no need for it. If you want dueling go play your CoD games kiddie.

Waffler.1257:

Dueling only adds more toxicity to an already toxic game, no need for it. If you want dueling go play your CoD games kiddie.

Just what the hell are you talking about? I’ve duelled with tons of people in OS and it’s has always been friendly.

The problem is that dueling is only a replica of actual pvp. For example, in magic kingdom…the replica buildings and characters are DESIGNED to be as they are, whereas a dueling option would circumvent the point of that. Spvp is better because the amulets are all you need to equalize players, it’s actually unfair that WvW allows players to mix and match stat combinations and stuff. In all honesty, players would abuse the dueling system much as the LFG tool is abused. Watchler made a good point, if you want dueling and fairness, then go play mario kart or CoD

Great idea, always wanted to duel with other people on my server with builds that would only work in wvw.

Sunreva.8714:

The problem is that dueling is only a replica of actual pvp. For example, in magic kingdom…the replica buildings and characters are DESIGNED to be as they are, whereas a dueling option would circumvent the point of that. Spvp is better because the amulets are all you need to equalize players, it’s actually unfair that WvW allows players to mix and match stat combinations and stuff. In all honesty, players would abuse the dueling system much as the LFG tool is abused. Watchler made a good point, if you want dueling and fairness, then go play mario kart or CoD

Your argument is invalid due to the fact that magic kingdom started like that, just as Guild Wars 2 started without dueling. Magic Kingdom then went on to add new PvP oriented rides such as Buzz Lightyear’s Space Ranger Spin and Tomorrowland Speedway, both those rides added a new competitive PvP aspect for the whole family. Therefore it is still entirely possible for Anet to add dueling to the OS.

Waffler.1257:

Dueling only adds more toxicity to an already toxic game, no need for it. If you want dueling go play your CoD games kiddie.

Is this a joke? It’s hard to read sarcasm in text.

The only bad experiences I’ve had while dueling are the idiot trolls that try to interfere or stomp people. I’m not talking about roamers that were unaware we were dueling, I mean people that were fully aware because either my opponent or I told them exactly what we were doing and asked them not to interfere and they made some nasty comment and carried on being an kitten.

And what the op is asking for is the option to duel friends and server mates, which would be fantastic because I love theory crafting and testing builds and it would be nice to see how well they worked against a player I know is good.

If you don’t like dueling all you have to do is stay out of OS, which is really only used for GvG and dueling anyway.

Jim Hunter.6821:

If you don’t like dueling all you have to do is stay out of OS, which is really only used for GvG and dueling anyway.

Exactly! This is why I’m asking for the dueling feature to be added to the Obsidian Sanctum arena. It was made for GvGs but it’s completely empty most of the time.

We should be able to right click on our friend, and select “duel” and they get a prompt that asks them if they’d like to. When both are in the duel they can now hurt each other if they belong to the same server.

This way all the duelers will hang out in the OS arena and not take up spots in the BLs. All the PvE players will keep to themselves and won’t feel “threatened” that there’s a dueling option in the game.

Everyone is happy.

Why not making the OS arena an istance we can buy in the gem store much like private PvP servers ?

- We can rent the server, same price as PvP.
- Everyone can jump on the server from the WvW control panel in all EU or NA.
- You can set password and rules.
- Everyone can choose side (blue/green/red), so we can also do GvG.
- 0 rewards/exp inside this arena.

Anet makes some profit and we players enjoy the duels/GvGs. Win-Win

sminkiottone.6972:

Why not making the OS arena an istance we can buy in the gem store much like private PvP servers ?

- We can rent the server, same price as PvP.
- Everyone can jump on the server from the WvW control panel in all EU or NA.
- You can set password and rules.
- Everyone can choose side (blue/green/red), so we can also do GvG.
- 0 rewards/exp inside this arena.

Anet makes some profit and we players enjoy the duels/GvGs. Win-Win

No thanks. That’s a terrible idea. How is that win-win? People would have to pay real money since the gold to gem conversion is atrocious.

EvilSardine.9635:

No thanks. That’s a terrible idea. How is that win-win? People would have to pay real money since the gold to gem conversion is atrocious.

I believe the arena now costs “only” gold (something like 300g to start one or whatever)

Yeah they would need to start making WvW profitable if they are going to charge for it.

longhaul.7462:

Sunreva.8714:

The problem is that dueling is only a replica of actual pvp. For example, in magic kingdom…the replica buildings and characters are DESIGNED to be as they are, whereas a dueling option would circumvent the point of that. Spvp is better because the amulets are all you need to equalize players, it’s actually unfair that WvW allows players to mix and match stat combinations and stuff. In all honesty, players would abuse the dueling system much as the LFG tool is abused. Watchler made a good point, if you want dueling and fairness, then go play mario kart or CoD

Your argument is invalid due to the fact that magic kingdom started like that, just as Guild Wars 2 started without dueling. Magic Kingdom then went on to add new PvP oriented rides such as Buzz Lightyear’s Space Ranger Spin and Tomorrowland Speedway, both those rides added a new competitive PvP aspect for the whole family. Therefore it is still entirely possible for Anet to add dueling to the OS.

Not possible, look what happened to Neverwinter Nights dueling servers where all the players used hack editors to bad strref weapon damage so they hit 100K+ damage per hit. What’s the maximum heal you can do in GW2? Yeah, it’s only 50K, tell me how that’s possible? Please just uninstall your operating system and go back to your casual angry bird ipad game, you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.

I think it would be very plausible to implement some sort of dueling system in the OS arena that mimics the queens gauntlet boss duel system that was above the boss blitz. By adding an upper ring to the arena that can be accessed by a portal and queens gauntlet entry system adds tons of options.
1. Everyone who goes there can be made friendly. This would allow for all players to see /s chat, allowing better communication and keeps idiots from ruining duels.
2. The NPC entry system can have multiple options, such as 1v1 (you can invite specific people too), 1vX, party vs party (only allows party members to join), and guild vs guild (only allows guild members to join, has a player limit)
3. Finally, this is completely out of the way of people who don’t like duels, want them, even intentionally kill people doing them. This appeases both the person who dislikes duels, as well as the ones who love them.

FINAL NOTE! When a duel is started, people have 1 minute to join 1v1/party v party, andguild vs guild is a ready system in which the commander decides when the guild is ready. Once the player limit is met, the time limit goes to a five second warning. Once the five seconds expire, you are teleported into an arena, similar to the queens gauntlet. Once someone has been killed they are teleported back to the platform, to avoid hard reading in party v party. Once all of one side are killed, both people teleport to the platform. I personally think victors should get some sort of small reward. I would say badges for each victory, but badges are fairly worthless.
If anyone has any ideas, please feel free to add
-Oscuro

sminkiottone.6972:

Why not making the OS arena an istance we can buy in the gem store much like private PvP servers ?

- We can rent the server, same price as PvP.
- Everyone can jump on the server from the WvW control panel in all EU or NA.
- You can set password and rules.
- Everyone can choose side (blue/green/red), so we can also do GvG.
- 0 rewards/exp inside this arena.

Anet makes some profit and we players enjoy the duels/GvGs. Win-Win

If such an item were to be added, it should not be sold on the gem store. If anything, it should be a REWARD for pve players, not a handout to pvpers who already spend all their time in spvp and wvw. I would rather it be an account bound drop item that has limited charges, think of this:

A dueling tray (similar to a food tray) that duel participants can click on and receive a duel buff. This duel buff then allows the player to fight other players who also have the buff. To lengthen the amount of use players can get out of the buff..while it is on they have damage/condition output reduced to only 50% and their health increased to 150%. The dueling tray would have 30 charges, and is only dropped rarely by certain legendary mobs. This would promote both PVE (to obtain the tray) and dueling pvp once it is placed.

Waffler.1257:

longhaul.7462:

Sunreva.8714:

The problem is that dueling is only a replica of actual pvp. For example, in magic kingdom…the replica buildings and characters are DESIGNED to be as they are, whereas a dueling option would circumvent the point of that. Spvp is better because the amulets are all you need to equalize players, it’s actually unfair that WvW allows players to mix and match stat combinations and stuff. In all honesty, players would abuse the dueling system much as the LFG tool is abused. Watchler made a good point, if you want dueling and fairness, then go play mario kart or CoD

Your argument is invalid due to the fact that magic kingdom started like that, just as Guild Wars 2 started without dueling. Magic Kingdom then went on to add new PvP oriented rides such as Buzz Lightyear’s Space Ranger Spin and Tomorrowland Speedway, both those rides added a new competitive PvP aspect for the whole family. Therefore it is still entirely possible for Anet to add dueling to the OS.

Not possible, look what happened to Neverwinter Nights dueling servers where all the players used hack editors to bad strref weapon damage so they hit 100K+ damage per hit. What’s the maximum heal you can do in GW2? Yeah, it’s only 50K, tell me how that’s possible? Please just uninstall your operating system and go back to your casual angry bird ipad game, you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.

….Again, is this sarcasm? You can already duel people in this game. The op is just asking for an area that is already used almost exclusively for dueling, to also have the option of dueling your friends.

This changes absolutely nothing in the gameplay, this would just be a spot to test builds and have some fun casual PvP without being restricted to sPvP trinkets. People are a lot less likely to hack in this scenario because you can call them out on it or just choose not to duel them.

EvilSardine.9635:

sminkiottone.6972:

Why not making the OS arena an istance we can buy in the gem store much like private PvP servers ?

- We can rent the server, same price as PvP.
- Everyone can jump on the server from the WvW control panel in all EU or NA.
- You can set password and rules.
- Everyone can choose side (blue/green/red), so we can also do GvG.
- 0 rewards/exp inside this arena.

Anet makes some profit and we players enjoy the duels/GvGs. Win-Win

No thanks. That’s a terrible idea. How is that win-win? People would have to pay real money since the gold to gem conversion is atrocious.

Why is that a bad idea ?

1) You can split the investment with guild mates/friends
2) You don’t need to own an arena to duel, there would be few always open
3) Sell you stuff and make some money (selling globs and everything you drop)

Would be nice to have an option to duel in this game yeah. Guildies dueling eachother etc. I fail to see how that would create toxicity in this game. Trolls/flamers will do whatever they want to do anyway.

An option to duel my friends and guild mates would be a nice addition to this game as we are looking forward to such a system. Right now, we are dueling (or 2v2,3v3 etc) on a private pvp arena, but it just don’t seem right.

OS seems to be the right place for this, since it is WvW area anyway and there is no reason for PvE players to be there. So, all players there are looking for some fights – which is working well right now in my opinion.

Sunreva.8714:

sminkiottone.6972:

Why not making the OS arena an istance we can buy in the gem store much like private PvP servers ?

- We can rent the server, same price as PvP.
- Everyone can jump on the server from the WvW control panel in all EU or NA.
- You can set password and rules.
- Everyone can choose side (blue/green/red), so we can also do GvG.
- 0 rewards/exp inside this arena.

Anet makes some profit and we players enjoy the duels/GvGs. Win-Win

If such an item were to be added, it should not be sold on the gem store. If anything, it should be a REWARD for pve players, not a handout to pvpers who already spend all their time in spvp and wvw. I would rather it be an account bound drop item that has limited charges, think of this:

A dueling tray (similar to a food tray) that duel participants can click on and receive a duel buff. This duel buff then allows the player to fight other players who also have the buff. To lengthen the amount of use players can get out of the buff..while it is on they have damage/condition output reduced to only 50% and their health increased to 150%. The dueling tray would have 30 charges, and is only dropped rarely by certain legendary mobs. This would promote both PVE (to obtain the tray) and dueling pvp once it is placed.

Yeah because PvE needs more rewards. And how is anything on the gem shop a hand out? Then you go on to suggest altered stats, missing the point of why people go to Os/WvWvW instead of sPvP to fight. Farm NPCs for a small chance for an item that let’s you duel? That’s….not a good idea.

If I’m not mistaken an Anet employee said they would be including a dueling option in the future. This was around release time and we’ve never heard anything else about it.

This game is called GUILD WARS and right now there’s no way for two guilds to fight each other without interruptions. Right now people can troll GvGs by just jumping in when two guilds are fighting in the OS area.

If they work out a dueling system they can expand it into a GvG system as well.

EvilSardine.9635:

If I’m not mistaken an Anet employee said they would be including a dueling option in the future. This was around release time and we’ve never heard anything else about it.

This game is called GUILD WARS and right now there’s no way for two guilds to fight each other without interruptions. Right now people can troll GvGs by just jumping in when two guilds are fighting in the OS area.

If they work out a dueling system they can expand it into a GvG system as well.

Common Mistake.
The game’s name does not come from a (not) advertised gameplay mechanic within it, it comes from this games’ lore.

Anyways,
+1 for getting a dueling option in the OS arena.
+1 for getting a structured GvG mode, regardless of server-origin.
+1 for getting a hobosack fix
oh wait…

Arantheal.7396:

Common Mistake.
The game’s name does not come from a (not) advertised gameplay mechanic within it, it comes from this games’ lore.

Thanks for the heads up. They should have named the game something else. It would be like Grand Theft Auto not actually including the ability to steal cars but instead includes the crime somewhere in the story.

Ive been reading some of the comments and I don’t think alot of people’s concerns actually concern them. there are lots of people who play many different game modes, and to each thier own. If there was a Duel mode why would that be a bad thing for someone who doesn’t want to play duels?

I think the idea is good. the problem with it now and why it is always empty is because it is hard to coordinate duels with people on other servers on the fly. If you could duel people on the same server that would be nice. either that or… make OS all servers, the way edge of the mists is. that might bring enough people into the stadium to get some regular dueling going. also would make the jp more of an event.

Joel.8215:

make OS all servers, the way edge of the mists is. that might bring enough people into the stadium to get some regular dueling going. also would make the jp more of an event.

I don’t think that would be a good idea. The arena would have a bit too many people in it and it would be a bit difficult to use for duels that require some decent amount of space.

Arantheal.7396:

EvilSardine.9635:

If I’m not mistaken an Anet employee said they would be including a dueling option in the future. This was around release time and we’ve never heard anything else about it.

This game is called GUILD WARS and right now there’s no way for two guilds to fight each other without interruptions. Right now people can troll GvGs by just jumping in when two guilds are fighting in the OS area.

If they work out a dueling system they can expand it into a GvG system as well.

Common Mistake.
The game’s name does not come from a (not) advertised gameplay mechanic within it, it comes from this games’ lore.

Anyways,
+1 for getting a dueling option in the OS arena.
+1 for getting a structured GvG mode, regardless of server-origin.
+1 for getting a hobosack fix
oh wait…

Either way, duels should be implemented in a manner that doesn’t limit what our builds/armor stat combinations are.

Sunreva.8714:

Either way, duels should be implemented in a manner that doesn’t limit what our builds/armor stat combinations are.

Yep! This is why PvP arenas isn’t the answer to “dueling.” The builds in PvP are dumbed down and aren’t the same.

Zeng.2413:

OS seems to be the right place for this, since it is WvW area anyway and there is no reason for PvE players to be there. So, all players there are looking for some fights – which is working well right now in my opinion.

Exactly. The main advocates against dueling (for silly reasons) are the PvE players. They say “dueling” is toxic but ignore the fact that PvE is such a horrible place most of the time. People screaming and new players because they killed a champ without the train or insulting someone for finishing a farming even that you’re supposed to fail. How about super elitest PvE players not allowing players into dungeons if they don’t have ascended gear or enough achievement points.

Dueling has 99% of the time been with good sports who are helpful and it’s always been fun.

and again +1 for dueling in OS.
this thread should be a sticky xD

I’m for dueling everywhere except LA.

Arantheal.7396:

and again +1 for dueling in OS.
this thread should be a sticky xD

Indeed it should!

I would to be able to duel my friends on my server so we can test out our WvW builds!

In my opinion, this is a sensible feature that really should be added. I would think players want to duel their friends on realistic footing (with their pve/wvw armor), instead of trying to substitute in spvp which uses amulets for stats and lacks the ability to mix and match combinations. Should be a simple and easy function, click on player—>right click on their avatar—>Request Duel—>other player gets a prompt to either ACCEPT or DECLINE.

Sunreva.8714:

Should be a simple and easy function, click on player—>right click on their avatar—>Request Duel—>other player gets a prompt to either ACCEPT or DECLINE.

Hell if that’s too hard then make it a permanent free tonic (that only works in WvW) that uses the costume brawl’s code. Run tonic and it shows a duel buff on you. People with the duel buff on the same server can now hurt each other.

They even said they would love to add dueling into the game, and they know about how the dueling in spvp is garbage. But 1 year later and still know word on it.