Guild Wars 2

Can we just find a way to get all stat sets in wvw? I hate having to do dungeons and other pve content to get most of the stats. Maybe an update for the armour/weapon npcs on all the bl’s.

With that in mind…are laurel merchants ever going to be updated for those that have bought HoT?

I have been asking for this for years.

Two things I heard the other night on Team Speak were:

“Tomorrow night we aren’t raiding, we need to do PvE so we can get the runes for our builds”.

The next raid was stopped early because “we need to a guild mission so I can get my earring”.

It is sooooo wrong that guilds that want to raid are being forced to stop so they can gear up.

We have been saying for a long time that we shouldn’t need to leave WvW to gear our characters.

We should have ascended armour and weapons, not just trinkets available.

We should have runes and sigils available.

I’m NOT saying it should be cheap/easy, the price in BoH, PoH, gold, laurels or some combination should obviously reflect the effort involved in PvE acquisition.

When any new sigil or rune is created in PvE it should also be added to the WvW merchant.

I am level ~1800 (Gold Solider) and I think I should have a more than one ascended armour set to show for that time. However, I’d rather play the game than go craft junk and do PvE.

Yep, the scrubs that wear viper’s gear to roam and think they are good LOL

This is the biggest thing I think and should be addressed. Gearing is very very crucial in wvw along with traiting skills okittennowing how to play is crucial but gearing is beyond important a lot of “blob” or even roaming fights tend to go down hill very fast because you might half have a blob in full dps sets.

While I’m all for trying different areas of content and making sure ppl are exposed to those areas it should at least be possible to obtain said gears in wvw.

No, the stats aquisation is just fine. WvW is not sPvP, so do that tiny bit of work if you want the optimal gear.

Malediktus.9250:

No, the stats aquisation is just fine. WvW is not sPvP, so do that tiny bit of work if you want the optimal gear.

It was generally fine before HoT. It’s not a tiny bit of work, and if that’s the case, put new gear as obtainable through WvW involvement first and let raiders and others have to do the tiny bit of work in WvW so they can go back to their preferred game mode.

Malediktus.9250:

No, the stats aquisation is just fine. WvW is not sPvP, so do that tiny bit of work if you want the optimal gear.

Indeed it’s not. You can also say it is not “PvE” either. Regardless, games shouldn’t feel like “work” in the slightest bit. What if people want to experiment with Celestial in WvW? Do they have to wait the time gated acquisition (1 month ish) each time they just want to test it, and only to realize it’s not for them?

There are people who have more time than money who can grind whatever they feel fit. There are people who have more money than time, and can spend cash to enjoy things. There are people are who have little of both. There are people that have much of both.

I don’t think people want this game to feel like “work” or “grind” regardless of their situation. I believe it’s bad for any game (and player) for that to be true.

If you think it takes a lot of work to get the desired stats in GW2, you probably havent played other MMOs. I never played a MMO before, where getting the best stuff was this easy. (and no GW1 was not a MMO, it was a CORPG)

Malediktus.9250:

If you think it takes a lot of work to get the desired stats in GW2, you probably havent played other MMOs. I never played a MMO before, where getting the best stuff was this easy. (and no GW1 was not a MMO, it was a CORPG)

Other mmos are mostly about one optimal build and all previous content becomes a filter to the latest raid for best in slot, there’s not really a best build in this game, only appropriate stats for a build. GW is basically a deck building game and we’re supposed to change builds regularly but all of the sudden that signature aspect of this game became gated and turned into a half done power creep. One persons optimal build might be easy to get and might not require spending their time away from their game mode to aquire, while someone else will have to set their clocks to events for a month or two depending on their play time to get theirs.

Malediktus.9250:

If you think it takes a lot of work to get the desired stats in GW2, you probably havent played other MMOs. I never played a MMO before, where getting the best stuff was this easy. (and no GW1 was not a MMO, it was a CORPG)

What the kitten does that have to do with anything?
People aren’t asking to get the stuff for free, they just want to work for their gear in wvw.
Only a total kitten would argue against this.

Gellrock.4073:

Can we just find a way to get all stat sets in wvw? I hate having to do dungeons and other pve content to get most of the stats. Maybe an update for the armour/weapon npcs on all the bl’s.

Some stat sets and items should never be available in WVW. For example the raid gear stats, the PVP mode legendary backpack etc. Those are things which add to the uniqueness of entire game modes.

Those are signature and unique.

However, WVW should also have its own signature and unique stat set for ascended or a legendary. WVW should also have at least some of the HOT open map stats or recipes available.

Since the implimentation of reward tracks, I have gotten 1 ascended recipe from doing one of the HOT reward tracks, I think they need to be available via some WVW means to be obtainable more often, likewise with items such as trinkets, amulets and rings, runes and sigils.

So an improvement needs to be made in this area (more stat combos available) + some sort of WVWs own stat set or legendary. But the pinnacle items from each game mode need to be left for that game mode.

Malediktus.9250:

If you think it takes a lot of work to get the desired stats in GW2, you probably havent played other MMOs. I never played a MMO before, where getting the best stuff was this easy. (and no GW1 was not a MMO, it was a CORPG)

Wrong. In WoW it was ridiculously easy to get BiS gear for PvP by PvPing. Put in your time in PvP; get the correct gear to PvP with. In GW2 you must grind jungle events to get the BiS gear to WvW with. Conflicting game mode gear acquisition is not the best way to go in this case.

I was actually gearing an alt the other day and noticed the same thing. Seems like the merchants didn’t have relevant stat combos, and on top of it, the only exotic jewelery you can get atm is PVT in WvW. Thought each page would have them at the bottom.

Just means more work to get each piece but … was surprised something so minimal to add was not attainable. (adding items on a merchants is not ground breaking coding)

Anyways, no big deal, just means have to go get the things I feel my character needs in another gamemode. No biggie

This is a terrible idea. One of the appeals of WvW is the exact chaotic and unbalanced nature of it. You already have a game mode that hands you all the stats without any effort its called SPvP, go play that.

Also watching a Phat Seals video and presenting his argument as your own is, well, just sad.

Trajan.4953:

This is a terrible idea. One of the appeals of WvW is the exact chaotic and unbalanced nature of it. You already have a game mode that hands you all the stats without any effort its called SPvP, go play that.

Also watching a Phat Seals video and presenting his argument as your own is, well, just sad.

No one said they want to get stats without any effort.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

In the next release, a 6th pip is being added to the provision master ability line that allows you to buy HoT recipes, sigils, and runes from the heroics notary vendor.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I honestly never saw this coming. Wow thanks.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

In the next release, a 6th pip is being added to the provision master ability line that allows you to buy HoT recipes, sigils, and runes from the heroics notary vendor.

Sweet!

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

In the next release, a 6th pip is being added to the provision master ability line that allows you to buy HoT recipes, sigils, and runes from the heroics notary vendor.

Nice addition – thanks for the info. I really didn’t mind doing things in HOT pve, but AB over and over and over for the runes for multiple sets did get old…..

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

In the next release, a 6th pip is being added to the provision master ability line that allows you to buy HoT recipes, sigils, and runes from the heroics notary vendor.

This is literally the best thing I’ve ever read ever. Unfortunate for me that I just spend 3 days farming Durability runes and Mussel Gnashblade food haha. Oh well though, I am just happy I won’t have to farm them in the new maps on my alt account.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

In the next release, a 6th pip is being added to the provision master ability line that allows you to buy HoT recipes, sigils, and runes from the heroics notary vendor.

Wow. Thank you. Honestly.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

In the next release, a 6th pip is being added to the provision master ability line that allows you to buy HoT recipes, sigils, and runes from the heroics notary vendor.

Amazing, thank you so much! You’ve made my day!

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

In the next release, a 6th pip is being added to the provision master ability line that allows you to buy HoT recipes, sigils, and runes from the heroics notary vendor.

I’ll be Debbie Downer: Are the prices in gold/badges/proofs going to be anything near realistic, or is it still going to be more economical to farm a meta map for two hours? Because Anet seems to have a pretty skewed idea of how many of these currency many WvW players have laying around that don’t get spent on siege, traps, and upgrades.

Put more directly: I can farm Auric Basin for 2-3 hours these days and get enough Aurillium for 6 Runes of Durability. Can I expect to run WvW for 2-3 hours and also get enough of the requisite currency (whatever it turns out to be) to buy 6 runes?

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

In the next release, a 6th pip is being added to the provision master ability line that allows you to buy HoT recipes, sigils, and runes from the heroics notary vendor.

WOOOOHOHOOOO ITS HAPPENING!

Skins don’t impact performance so please don’t compare them to unique PvE gated stats and making them available via WvWvW does not equal doling them out. It’s good that it’s being corrected and I hope this isn’t repeated with another expansion because personally, the game lost some of its luster due to wanting to try new builds but being completely turned off by the required PvE. I log in for WvWvW. That’s it.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

In the next release, a 6th pip is being added to the provision master ability line that allows you to buy HoT recipes, sigils, and runes from the heroics notary vendor.

Amazing.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

In the next release, a 6th pip is being added to the provision master ability line that allows you to buy HoT recipes, sigils, and runes from the heroics notary vendor.

Holy crap thank you for that..

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

In the next release, a 6th pip is being added to the provision master ability line that allows you to buy HoT recipes, sigils, and runes from the heroics notary vendor.

Whoa lol well there goes many hours of grinding pve I’ll never get back. This is amazing though! Wasn’t looking forward to another 10 to 20 hours just for runes.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

In the next release, a 6th pip is being added to the provision master ability line that allows you to buy HoT recipes, sigils, and runes from the heroics notary vendor.

Seriously, this is a fantastic move. It will allow hardcore WvW players to continue going about their business, and will hopefully bring more people into the borderlands between meta events if they are in a rush to get those items .

Fantastic change!
Anyone know if the new recipes require mats you have to pve for? Can they all be bought off the tp or aquired through reward tracks?

What about the ascended trinkets are they inclueded?

Yay! It’s good they are finally listening and making the changes that are needed. Keep up the good work devs, thanks!

Jim Hunter.6821:

Fantastic change!
Anyone know if the new recipes require mats you have to pve for? Can they all be bought off the tp or aquired through reward tracks?

You can buy em all off the TP or get them through the tracks sometimes. Though for the armor recipes it’s still gonna be pretty expensive.

Decent changes hype

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

In the next release, a 6th pip is being added to the provision master ability line that allows you to buy HoT recipes, sigils, and runes from the heroics notary vendor.

All it took as a new WvW currency. And 6+ months to realize that it would be great to be able to spend it on something besides siege (once Elite maxed). Who knew.

However, considering how long it took for WvW gear to be salvageable the timeline is shorter than I’d have guessed.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

In the next release, a 6th pip is being added to the provision master ability line that allows you to buy HoT recipes, sigils, and runes from the heroics notary vendor.

Good news to hear!

Just a quick question, are there any plans for HoT asc trinkets (and other stats only available through raids) to be introduced either in a WvW capacity or simply a laurel/guild commendation addition?

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

In the next release, a 6th pip is being added to the provision master ability line that allows you to buy HoT recipes, sigils, and runes from the heroics notary vendor.

While I do appreciate the ability to get rune and sigil combinations from the vendor I don’t really need the recipes for most of the new HoT gear.

I already can craft exotic versions of what I need (or the recipes are so cheap on the TP it doesn’t matter) the problem I have is I would like 1 full set of ascended trinkets of viper, marauder and possibly commander stats however there is no way to get these as ascended outside of raids and story achievements.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

In the next release, a 6th pip is being added to the provision master ability line that allows you to buy HoT recipes, sigils, and runes from the heroics notary vendor.

I appreciate this greatly but I feel that this is incomplete.

The greatest issue is the lack of ascended trinkets of the HOT stats which are currently locked behind raiding. Trinkets are the highest stat weight of all the gear and not having those available is a huge setback for WvW.

Similarly even if we do get the recipes most of them require HoT exclusive items to craft which are completely unavailable in WvW solving only a tiny fraction of the grind for those items in the first place.

A step in the right direction though

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

In the next release, a 6th pip is being added to the provision master ability line that allows you to buy HoT recipes, sigils, and runes from the heroics notary vendor.

I love you! <3

All other benefits and issues aside, am I the only one feeling it’s awkward to put access to a vendor’s items on an ability line?

Just starting with the concept of ability lines. All the other ones revolve around actions the player does whether being in combat, gathering supply, etc. But this one is about purchasing items for your build. Yes, one’s build then impacts combat. But it’s a step removed and doesn’t feel like it should be an “ability”.

And then there’s how this’ll work out for anyone who hasn’t maxed out their ability lines and doesn’t have points to spare…

Say a player wants to buy some things to fit out a build, so they invest the points and do it. But it’s not like they’ll be buy more stuff often. In fact it might be a one-time need. So now the 25 or whatever points are sunk and effectively useless (until a reset happens). That’s annoying.

And so if a player has bought all they need by the time a reset happens, then there’s presumably no reason to invest in it again afterwards. In theory a player could not bother with it ever again, even though they gained the benefit from it. That’s weird.

Are those recipes and items going to be soulbound or accountbound? If accountbound, then a player only ever needs one of their characters to invest in this pip. And of course they could just do that with a character they never intend on playing WvW with, so as to not detract from the ability point usage on their real characters. That’s silly.

And if ability point resets are ever revised into a more player-friendly on-demand scheme (instead of once in a blue-moon whenever A.Net thinks it’s a good idea), then players would be able to invest, buy, reset, and spend the points elsewhere which renders the whole ability line aspect mostly useless (other than preventing people who have less than 60 or whatever WvW points from using it).

Mastery points for proofs of heroics, same as was done with Hero points, would be a nice alternative.

To get more people to raids and HoT maps.

This is great thanks. Does this also include food recipes? And are there currently any plans to introduce HoT stat ascended trinkets to the laurel vendor or any other way to acquire them?

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

In the next release, a 6th pip is being added to the provision master ability line that allows you to buy HoT recipes, sigils, and runes from the heroics notary vendor.

Add a 7th pip allowing the purchase of Viper jewellery, will love you long time.

Access to runes and sigils is nice. But without having an avenue for raid-locked trinkets it feels like a half measure. I will gladly take this as it is a significant improvement.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

In the next release, a 6th pip is being added to the provision master ability line that allows you to buy HoT recipes, sigils, and runes from the heroics notary vendor.

Wowsa I love this.

Sir Black.7423:

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And then there’s how this’ll work out for anyone who hasn’t maxed out their ability lines and doesn’t have points to spare…

If you have alt characters, remember they start with an unspent pool of exactly as many points as your well used characters happen to have earned. So even a fresh level 2 baby character may have hundreds of unspent points just like a main, they could presumably grab nothing but Provisioner ranks, do shopping, and if it tickled your fancy they could even be deleted after tucking the goods in the Bank.

I’ve got a level 49 bag opener who I’d not WvW with at all, tons of unspent points except to go get max supply (+25 at a Presence of the Keep location) before reset, worst case he’s a repair man from time to time when things are desperate. He could be my designated “pip 6 HoT shopper”, but I guess it’s wait and see if the prices are within reason or if I should just join the odd HoT meta map depending what recipes or runes were sought (feels like I already bought enough of the key recipes and runes at this stage but hey, whatever keeps people in WvW and not cursing PvE grinding).

Rasudido.6734:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

In the next release, a 6th pip is being added to the provision master ability line that allows you to buy HoT recipes, sigils, and runes from the heroics notary vendor.

I appreciate this greatly but I feel that this is incomplete.

The greatest issue is the lack of ascended trinkets of the HOT stats which are currently locked behind raiding. Trinkets are the highest stat weight of all the gear and not having those available is a huge setback for WvW.

Similarly even if we do get the recipes most of them require HoT exclusive items to craft which are completely unavailable in WvW solving only a tiny fraction of the grind for those items in the first place.

A step in the right direction though

Exotic trinkets to ascended trinkets on a 4 stat spread isn’t the large and obviously you can convert ascended weapons and armor with the forge. The exclusion hot materials to make hot stat gear is all available on TP. Most of it is not that expensive any more.

I have ascended commanders weapon/armor, exotic wanderer trinkets, ascended celestial back piece, 2 sigils of draining, runes of durability and plate of mussel gnashblade. I don’t really care for pve but they have made getting all that stuff MUCH easier as map currency is easy to come by now. With all the map currency purchases put on provisioner, it almost makes me wanna sadface.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

In the next release, a 6th pip is being added to the provision master ability line that allows you to buy HoT recipes, sigils, and runes from the heroics notary vendor.

Wow the wvw team has really been rocking lately!

Malediktus.9250:

If you think it takes a lot of work to get the desired stats in GW2, you probably havent played other MMOs. I never played a MMO before, where getting the best stuff was this easy. (and no GW1 was not a MMO, it was a CORPG)

I have, getting best in slot stats in GW2 is harder than in games like SWTOR.