Guild Wars 2

I have a Thief and well, it just bores me to tears, and I am ridiculously glassy, as most Thieves are.

So I want something new, something that performs well in of a Zerg, can do well as a Roamer or small strike forces to take out a camp or ninja a tower, ect.

Not looking for something super glassy like a Thief, but something that shares the mobility, speed, and has good odds in 1vX fights.

I have been told by friends that Mesmer/Ele/Engi are what I am looking for, just asking you all just incase you have a suggestion and a build in mind.

Thanks!!!

Make an ele. They are relatively fun and able to be good at all aspects of WvW whether defending, attacking, mega zerging, gvg, random skirmishing, solo roaming, group roaming, camp flipping, so on. Eles are solid at all of it.

Avoid ranger and engi unless you plan to roam exclusively. They are fun professions, but not so great the broad WvW sense.

I’ve played Thief, Ele , Guardian and Mesmer in that order.

Funny thing is, I enjoyed each more than the last – I think I’m just getting better, which makes it more fun.

Might go back to the thief sometime and see if I can’t play it properly.

Warrior can do everything and has high armor

Warrior or elementalist

Warrior.

It can zerg (Hammer shouts). It can run away from anything (GS + S/Warhorn). It can 1v1, (M/S + GS lololol), it can 1vX (Condi bunker).

Warrior. Best class in game now and keeps getting better with every patch.

Agreeing on Warrior. Overall the best “do it all” profession. High mass CC (hammer), high armor, high HP, high DPS, high mobility, high burst, and high regen if traited correctly. Warriors have many versatile builds you can opt into.

Play what you like; so you have no one to blame by making the choice. But I’m willing to get blamed for choosing a guardian or warrior.

Make a warrior, the most OP class evah

Mesmer is a great dueling class that can handle multiple enemies pretty well, and is quite useful in zergs as well, including stealthy missions like portals and veils. Compared to thieves or warriors, to roam with a mesmer and outplay opponents it does take a lot of practice. I couldn’t dare tackle more than 1 enemy with my mesmer until I was at around 100 tPvP matches with her.

warrior. nothing else but warrior. all warriors everywhere if u are not a kitten warrior u have a bad time. wvw is for warriors/guardians. mesmer ranger is not vible in that current meta. mightstack push spam a few buttons stunlock everyone to death and no skill involved. so pick warrior u got it all endless health massive toughness massive cc.

You sir are looking for a warrior or an elementalist.

kuora.5402:

Mesmer is a great dueling class that can handle multiple enemies pretty well, and is quite useful in zergs as well, including stealthy missions like portals and veils. Compared to thieves or warriors, to roam with a mesmer and outplay opponents it does take a lot of practice. I couldn’t dare tackle more than 1 enemy with my mesmer until I was at around 100 tPvP matches with her.

tpvp is not wvw at all. try to face a group of warriors/guardians with a group of mesmers. its not gonna end good for mesmers. u will be stunlocked to death and can deal enough dmg to get past the ridiculous regen a warrior has. in a 1v1 its different. i have a different build for roaming and there it is the warrior that has a hard time, but in a zerg id say u can only stand at the backline and be a veil/portal bot for the godlike warriors

selan.8354:

warrior. nothing else but warrior. all warriors everywhere if u are not a kitten warrior u have a bad time. wvw is for warriors/guardians. mesmer ranger is not vible in that current meta. mightstack push spam a few buttons stunlock everyone to death and no skill involved. so pick warrior u got it all endless health massive toughness massive cc.

Don’t know if trolling or serious…but I know how to beat them—consistently too.

Back in the good old days I woulda said Mesmer, but Anet nerfed mes and confusion so hard that it only really shines in 1v1 and small skirmishes now. Mes is also super squishy. You melt in open zerg combat. I rolled a guardian and I love it for WvW. It’s great for survivability. Amazing in a Zerg fight. Tons of heals. I can withstand an incredible amount of damage and keep going. Plus, as a guardian, you are a major help to your teammates, with the right spec. I’m constantly dishing out a ton of boons to everyone around me, while cleansing conditions, while simultaneously healing players for large amounts and protecting everyone from projectiles. Guardian works best in a group as it makes the entire group stronger and you stronger as well. Guardian gets weaker 1v1, mostly because players can escape from us easily. With my Mesmer I used to be able to solo camps. Expect to do that less as a guard. Your damage output is so / so. Still, guardian feels very at home in WvW as most of it’s skills are designed to help groups. Engineers are not a good pick for WvW unless you like running a lot or standing on the outskirts of a battle, mindlessly tossing grenades. Engi can be super fun, but you feel weak and useless in WvW, especially if you use turrets for anything. Turrets melt in less than a second in Zerg combat. Bombs are fun, but good luck surviving long enough to plant enough.

Guardian or Warrior. They’re the only classes that can wade in a heavy zerg, dish out serious damage, retal and CC, and roll out alive.

Warrior has everything you want and more.

In wvw all is about War / Guards / Eles / Necros.
I have been asked by my guild to re-roll to War / Guard or Ele and let my mesmer out. (no joke).
We have 1 mesmer that will just veil bot and that will be all.
As a result I am levelling a Guardian. But to be honest I feel Warrior much superior for the moment and Number 1 in all parts in WvW:
1) Roaming : awesome speed and duel capability => close to N1 duelist and good counter to thief.
2) Group even stronger in group with its CC capability.
3) Zerg: King of CC / Sustain damage / Tanking =>King of the zerg. Big hit profession so not blasted by awfull retaliation like other professions that make numerous little hits (engi / mesmers / …)

You can add that Arenanet considers worth buffing their support abilities with shouts in next patch.
Meanwhile they think about enhnacing a little bit mantras to mesmers.(OMG what is wrong in their heads.)

In top of all of that Warriors are god tier in PVE.

So take warrior (already highest played profession by far). Arena can not nerf them anymore as they will loose 20% of their players.

Finaly as they want more players in tpvp, I am seriously thinking that they are intentionally making them gods to drive PVE and WvW boys (highest majority are warriors) there.

I gotta give a vote to warrior too. No one build does everythin but they got a build to excel in any situation.

Definitely warrior they excel not only in all parts of wvw but in every aspect of the game.

Lots of warrior hate in here. It’s like being on the warrior forums hahaha.

Warrior most op class in all game modes. Make one you won’t regret.

Meh, warrior is only OP because the healing signet isn’t working correctly.

I’d say the most interesting do it all classes in wvw are ele/guard/warrior/mes the most fun I have playing though are engi/necro.

Chopps.5047:

selan.8354:

warrior. nothing else but warrior. all warriors everywhere if u are not a kitten warrior u have a bad time. wvw is for warriors/guardians. mesmer ranger is not vible in that current meta. mightstack push spam a few buttons stunlock everyone to death and no skill involved. so pick warrior u got it all endless health massive toughness massive cc.

Don’t know if trolling or serious…but I know how to beat them—consistently too.

well yeah a roaming warrior i can beat, but a whole zerg with warrior/guardians…..that is different. the zerg with more warriors wins atm as the warrior has been buffed to godmode. yeah mesmers on a 1v1, pretty tough to beat in a group….yeah since anet destroyed our core zerg build its pretty tough…..backline only and veil/portal bots

Ele’s are a back line support class in WvW, not all around.

Warriors are the heart of the meta. They hit hard, they can take a beating, they can be built to nearly ignore conditions, and just about everything they do can support allies.

There’s a good reason 16% of the population is Warriors, a full 2% over it’s closest competitor. Based on a 3 million units sold figure 2% is 60,000 more Warriors.

So come on, roll a Warrior. Everyone else is doing it. Don’t you want to be popular?

Certainly not the best but I have good fun on my LB/GS Bunker Ranger.

Details:

I run a Hybrid DD Bunker build, static Wolf Pet with Master Bond
Build is here: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMUQJARTjAVV2JWCWs2Bi2jJZpzzKoo3D0v+2nyPqwbPA-jUDBYMYoNBigAj+IQJQFRjtCqIasqZAqGY6SJV/KyWzB2gGylQZVKAmUGB-w

Benefits ( I am Rank 235 so I have +100 Power/Condi and +2500 hits, also bloodlust stacks not factored in link)

- 20K hits with stacks
- Barkskin Dam Reduc, kicks in at 5K hits
- 60% static condition reduction (Hoelbrak+Poultry lemongrass)
- Passive SoTW and Pet Regeneration
- Frequent dodges with Energy Sigils/Wilderness endo regen
- 2000 tough/3K armor without a signet
- Passive movement speed 25%
- Stun break (LR)
- 3500 attack with both 2H Weapons
- +550 to all pet stacks with 30BM/Masters Bond (Pet traited with +30 Movement rate)

Works real well in small man guild groups as well as solo play. LB is good fun at keep fights. Handling 1v2 quite well even vs tougher classes.

Sarlack.4096:

Certainly not the best but I have good fun on my LB/GS Bunker Ranger.

Details:

I run a Hybrid DD Bunker build, static Wolf Pet with Master Bond
Build is here: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMUQJARTjAVV2JWCWs2Bi2jJZpzzKoo3D0v+2nyPqwbPA-jUDBYMYoNBigAj+IQJQFRjtCqIasqZAqGY6SJV/KyWzB2gGylQZVKAmUGB-w

Benefits ( I am Rank 235 so I have +100 Power/Condi and +2500 hits, also bloodlust stacks not factored in link)

- 20K hits with stacks
- Barkskin Dam Reduc, kicks in at 5K hits
- 60% static condition reduction (Hoelbrak+Poultry lemongrass)
- Passive SoTW and Pet Regeneration
- Frequent dodges with Energy Sigils/Wilderness endo regen
- 2000 tough/3K armor without a signet
- Passive movement speed 25%
- Stun break (LR)
- 3500 attack with both 2H Weapons
- +550 to all pet stacks with 30BM/Masters Bond (Pet traited with +30 Movement rate)

Works real well in small man guild groups as well as solo play. LB is good fun at keep fights. Handling 1v2 quite well even vs tougher classes.

good to see a few rangers out there, but when we are talking about the meta its not about roaming and 1v1. mesmers do excellent in 1v1. i hate facing mesmers in a 1v1 and i main a mesmer…..the issue though is large group viability. i can take down a single warrior(on my roamin=spvp build) but the warrior trains are over the top atm. they are the new noob class and godmode in wvw.all u hear in ts is get on your warrior we are losing, cc on the right, cc there, veil, reroll warrior or get out, u are a rallly bot go warrior or guardian…..

selan.8354:

Sarlack.4096:

Certainly not the best but I have good fun on my LB/GS Bunker Ranger.

Details:

I run a Hybrid DD Bunker build, static Wolf Pet with Master Bond
Build is here: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMUQJARTjAVV2JWCWs2Bi2jJZpzzKoo3D0v+2nyPqwbPA-jUDBYMYoNBigAj+IQJQFRjtCqIasqZAqGY6SJV/KyWzB2gGylQZVKAmUGB-w

Benefits ( I am Rank 235 so I have +100 Power/Condi and +2500 hits, also bloodlust stacks not factored in link)

- 20K hits with stacks
- Barkskin Dam Reduc, kicks in at 5K hits
- 60% static condition reduction (Hoelbrak+Poultry lemongrass)
- Passive SoTW and Pet Regeneration
- Frequent dodges with Energy Sigils/Wilderness endo regen
- 2000 tough/3K armor without a signet
- Passive movement speed 25%
- Stun break (LR)
- 3500 attack with both 2H Weapons
- +550 to all pet stacks with 30BM/Masters Bond (Pet traited with +30 Movement rate)

Works real well in small man guild groups as well as solo play. LB is good fun at keep fights. Handling 1v2 quite well even vs tougher classes.

good to see a few rangers out there, but when we are talking about the meta its not about roaming and 1v1. mesmers do excellent in 1v1. i hate facing mesmers in a 1v1 and i main a mesmer…..the issue though is large group viability. i can take down a single warrior(on my roamin=spvp build) but the warrior trains are over the top atm. they are the new noob class and godmode in wvw.all u hear in ts is get on your warrior we are losing, cc on the right, cc there, veil, reroll warrior or get out, u are a rallly bot go warrior or guardian…..

I beat Mesmers all the time. The trick is to use W, S, A, D and ensure you’re moving in the direction opposite of the Mesmer, preferably under Swiftness, all whilst using your leap skills. Survive the predictable Phantasmal Berkerer by reserving condition removal for the cripple it inflicts and continue on with your day.

Ghoulina.2976:

Meh, warrior is only OP because the healing signet isn’t working correctly.

I’d say the most interesting do it all classes in wvw are ele/guard/warrior/mes the most fun I have playing though are engi/necro.

Healing signet isn’t really that good for wvw. Too much spike damage.

Valik Shin.9027:

Ghoulina.2976:

Meh, warrior is only OP because the healing signet isn’t working correctly.

I’d say the most interesting do it all classes in wvw are ele/guard/warrior/mes the most fun I have playing though are engi/necro.

Healing signet isn’t really that good for wvw. Too much spike damage.

With the highest hit points and armour, spike damage is not the same worry to warriors it is to everyone else.

Ok reading back over post I’m just gonna make a couple comments.

Ele is backline support because that how people use them. Boon giving ele is another good build and can run right in with the main force. Thief doesn’t have to be super glass. Run a condition build and go short bow and you can be effective in zerg or mid

styx.7294:

Valik Shin.9027:

Ghoulina.2976:

Meh, warrior is only OP because the healing signet isn’t working correctly.

I’d say the most interesting do it all classes in wvw are ele/guard/warrior/mes the most fun I have playing though are engi/necro.

Healing signet isn’t really that good for wvw. Too much spike damage.

True but I stil find spike healing a much better option especially when u run a healing build. Hard to beat a 12k heal

With the highest hit points and armour, spike damage is not the same worry to warriors it is to everyone else.

Guardian is the safest bet. Guardian is perfect for in a lot of situations and hardly ever gets nerfed.

Warrior might be better right now but if the people in this thread keep complaining about how OP it is then it might not be next month.

Odokuro.5049:

I have been told by friends that Mesmer/Ele/Engi are what I am looking for, just asking you all just incase you have a suggestion and a build in mind.

Thanks!!!

Mes if you don’t mind being a portal monkey, else Engie is by far more fun for both large and small ops.

Caliban.3176:

Guardian is the safest bet. Guardian is perfect for in a lot of situations and hardly ever gets nerfed.

Warrior might be better right now but if the people in this thread keep complaining about how OP it is then it might not be next month.

Lol warriors woulda been nerfed already if it were gonna happen anytime in the near future.

Caliban.3176:

Guardian is the safest bet. Guardian is perfect for in a lot of situations and hardly ever gets nerfed.

Warrior might be better right now but if the people in this thread keep complaining about how OP it is then it might not be next month.

I can’t remember the thread, but I’m pretty sure Anet has said that Warrior is one of the few classes that they are actually happy with at the moment.

Most likely, they will be balancing other classes around where the warrior is currently at….. i.e. the warrior can fulfill many different roles in a meaningful way, which is what they hope to accomplish for all classes. But that is simply just speculation on my part.

Warrior is the best overall class. But boring as **** tbh.

hands down warrior… similar thief play style for better or worse. Mesmer or elementalist maybe. If you want a challenge, ranger.

I play ele almost all the time (also have lvl 80 ranger and guardian). I might be wrong, but I get the feeling most people would not like the ele class. The skills are complicated combinations, the weapons are rigid no swap, and the armor is squishy. Ele is there to help out, not grab any glory.

Engi or Ele.

Just dusted off my Mesmer for WvW and MAN is that a fun class. I forgot how awesome Mesmer can be. The skill cap is high, you really gotta practice and get down a rythem. The wrong button can mean death. But when you get it going it’s an incredable roamer. Zerg fights not so much, but really fun solo or in small roving groups.

Warrior, there is so many builds you can use with warrior, the only limit is the bag slots and/or gold to keep equipment for all/anybuilds you want.

Mesmers are awesome too, though they are more “static” in what people want with them – Veil, Portal, Mass Invis, Time Warp. the are probably king of support, not to say they aren’t a beast in the right hands.

Gonna have to say ele. Staff eles, guardians, and warriors rule the zerging meta. Without any one of those classes you won’t be able to perform, but eles are exceptional at roaming. D/D is a very powerful build that is difficult to counter. Warrior is great too, but will get destroyed by condi heavy classes with access to immo/chill/cripple, notably thieves and necros.

Engis are also great, but really you can’t go wrong with either of the 3.

The four kings

1. guardian
2. ele
3. necro
4. and warrior

if your gameplay is wvw. and those 4 are also viable and good in pve.

How about for solo roaming?

K U T M.4539:

Warrior.

It can zerg (Hammer shouts). It can run away from anything (GS + S/Warhorn). It can 1v1, (M/S + GS lololol), it can 1vX (Condi bunker).

Absolutely this. And as a roamer, kitten how I hate lb/s-s warriors.

Upham.6137:

K U T M.4539:

Warrior.

It can zerg (Hammer shouts). It can run away from anything (GS + S/Warhorn). It can 1v1, (M/S + GS lololol), it can 1vX (Condi bunker).

Absolutely this. And as a roamer, kitten how I hate lb/s-s warriors.

Just curious, why do you hate lb/s-s warriors?