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Posted by: timidobserver.7925

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Curently WvW is an Alt-Unfriendly environment. This thread is for people to put down their ideas to help solve the issue. Account bound wxp has already been ruled out, so I am looking for ideas OTHER than that.

~I will start it off with my three ideas~

Idea 1:
Implement something that I am calling the Trickle Down effect. When one character reaches X milestone WxP rank, the player gets a bonus they can apply to any character other than their highest ranked character.

So for example
-Once you reach rank 100, you get the option to increase the Wxp rank of one of your alts by 30 levels.
-At 150, you can increase the rank of the alt by 50 levels.
-At 200, you can increase the rank of an alt by 75 levels.

Idea 2:
The other option is to increase Wxp gain on the account based on the highest Wxp level the player has obtained. So, for example:

-Once you have any character that is of rank 100 or greater, the WXP gain of all characters on your account, other than the highest ranked character, is increased by %50.
-Once you have any character that is of rank 150 or greater, the WXP gain of all characters on your account, other than the highest ranked character, is increased by %100.
-Once you have any character that is of rank 200 or greater, the WXP gain of all characters on your account, other than the highest ranked character, is increased by %150.

Idea 3: This idea can be called WxP Bank or gaining WxP Interest. It is kind of like the Offline XP system that most MMOs have. It kind of accomplishes account bound WxP without making it fully Account Bound.

So for example:
You gain 30% interest on all of the WXP your earn from playing WvW. So, if you gain 5000 WxP, you earn 1500 WXP in your WxP Bank that you can use on any character other than your highest ranked character.

Note: The numbers I’ve plugged in aren’t as important as the concepts. The numbers can be adjusted/balanced.

(edited by timidobserver.7925)

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Posted by: Straegen.2938

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Curently WvW is an Alt-Unfriendly environment. This thread is for people to put down their ideas to help solve the issue. Account bound wxp has already been ruled out, so I am looking for ideas OTHER than that.

They have stated as much but I will not be surprised if they eventually give in on this. The design as it stands is pretty stupid. It is supposed to extend the amount of game play a player will put in. However now players feel locked into one character which will likely cause them to burn out faster. This feature is having the opposite effect and has become one of the most alt-unfriendly MMOs I have played.

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Posted by: Xcom.1926

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I personally love idea 2. Not only will it motivate you to level your main character, but an account wide bonus will motivate you to level other WvW characters. I personally prefer account bound wxp, but I understand their point of view on this.

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Posted by: Nekkma.8961

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Just increase the droprate of the wxp consumables (tbh it should be guaranted from a solokill). A bit alt un-friendly is good imo. Otherwise people just switch from one fotm class to the next. With a reasonable powergap people tend to stick to the character they have invested most in even in times of nerfs.

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Posted by: Nadha.6097

Nadha.6097

hi there!
the only real alt-friendly solution is maybe 3.
If you were really playing alts, your WXP-level structure would look something like:
Charlvl80 1 : wxp rank 40
Charlvl80 2 : wxp rank 40
Charlvl80 3 : wxp rank 20
Charlvl80 4 : wxp rank 20….
so Ideas 1 and 2 do not help at all, only if you do NOT play your alts but one Main.
You really want to reward that again?

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Posted by: Lord Kuru.3685

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What about: for each rank you gain, your alts gain a rank as well.

Seriously, how stupid can Anet be? Do they really want us to burn out faster playing just one character?

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Posted by: AcFiBu.9624

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In the end wxp/rank is no different than leveling a new character. Just because you hit lvl 80 on one character doesn’t mean you are punished or forced to just play your 80 because your new character starts at lvl 1. Same thing applies to rank and that makes sense. I mean your lvl 1 doesn’t have all the cool abilities and such that your lvl 80 does. Just like your low rank alt doesn’t have all the cool wvw stuff you high rank character does.

I don’t find this to be unfriendly to alts. I find this as the fact it is an alt and not the same character. With all the account bound stuff in this game people have come to just want everything to be account bound, basically wanting stuff for free.

I think going account bound would be a bad idea. I do think they need to do a little something to help with alts though. I would find this change more of a bonus. I like the idea 3 OP gave. I would change it a little though and make it so 10% of the wxp earned is giving to all alts instead of putting it in a bank. that way for every 10 ranks you earn, all your alts would get 1 free rank. On top of this I’d make it so the wxp pots that drop give that wxp to all character and not just the one you consume it on.

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

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Curently WvW is an Alt-Unfriendly environment. This thread is for people to put down their ideas to help solve the issue. Account bound wxp has already been ruled out, so I am looking for ideas OTHER than that.

They have stated as much but I will not be surprised if they eventually give in on this. The design as it stands is pretty stupid. It is supposed to extend the amount of game play a player will put in. However now players feel locked into one character which will likely cause them to burn out faster. This feature is having the opposite effect and has become one of the most alt-unfriendly MMOs I have played.

yeah have to agree
pretty sure its been put back on the table because of the massive amounts of dissatisfaction expressed like everywhere

i dont expect it any time soon tho, if ever

if only the devs had a way of listening to us about this stuff…

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Posted by: EvaPilot.3816

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I am only level 58 on WVW however I feel that I have put a lot of effort into just ranking up this one character. I would like to feel that I had the option of using a different character. To be entirely honest, what I spend my points on would be exactly the same no matter what class I use, and since they take so long to earn I feel it is entirely pointless to have separate wvw ranks per character instead of account. I know you ruled it out, but any implementation less that that is still going to be hostile.