Alternative idea to the Upgrade system

Alternative idea to the Upgrade system

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Posted by: joneirikb.7506

joneirikb.7506

After discussing with a friend, he came up with an interesting alternative to the current and last Objective Upgrade system, that I thought might be interesting to get feedback on. This is sort of a mix between the new and the old upgrade system. In short terms:

Idea 1:

  • Revert back the different upgrade tiers with multiple choices
  • Keep the gold/supply cost at 0
  • Instead of the timer, use X number of Dolyaks received
  • Vote system for upgrades, each player can put in a vote, highest get prioritized
  • If no-votes/tie, upgrade the cheapest option (give old upgrades an arbitrary cost/priority order)

Option 1:

Keep votes for a time, so they retain for next vote/upgrade (remove half for next upgrade). Gives some weight to further upgrades, and lets your choices affect wvw over time even if you leave map.


Option 2:

In addition to normal Dolyaks, have a system that gives a slow but constant amount of “Resources” so that upgrading never locks entirely down, but still much slower than we currently got through AutoUpgrade.

Using a simple X/Time and Y/Resource model, the amount of resources and time would have to be tweaked. Some examples visual effects:

  • Simple timer until we get a free “Resources”, like we have now.
  • Charr Helicopter once per “Time” drops “Resources” at each objective
  • NPC Worker scavenging parts around objective for “Resources”
  • Personal Favorite: Steal the Cattlepult from the Charr 15-25 area, plant it with the NPC (Siegerazer’s brother) in the spawn area, and have him catapult “Resources” at all objectives held once per “Time”. While throwing out witty charr quotes.

PS: Not going to go into the arguments of brining back WP or not, this is completely irrelevant for this idea. So for all practical purposes, even if rolling back to old upgrades system WP would be locked down or replaced with something else. Discuss the WP problem somewhere else please.

Elrik Noj (Norn Guardian, Kaineng [SIN][Owls])
“Understanding is a three edged sword: your side, their side, and the truth.”
“The objective is to win. The goal is to have fun.”

Alternative idea to the Upgrade system

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Posted by: joneirikb.7506

joneirikb.7506

This is an alternative mode, changing the idea from local upgrades to a more Global/Map wide system.

This would change the tactical to a more strategical choice, where to upgrade, and the whole map can help with it. Example N and NE dolyaks are still important if you want to upgrade Fire-Bay-West Keep.

Idea 2:

* Note: this uses the current tiered upgrades!
* Keep the gold/supply cost at 0
* Instead of the timer, use X number of Dolyaks received
* Make the Dolyaks a Global/Map wide resource
* You can only work on a single upgrade at a time.
* Vote for which objective to upgrade (map vote)
* If no-votes/tie, upgrade the cheapest option
* Example: Tier1, Tier2, Tier3. And Camps, Tower, Keep etc.

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Option 1:

Same as above

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Option 2:

Same as above

Elrik Noj (Norn Guardian, Kaineng [SIN][Owls])
“Understanding is a three edged sword: your side, their side, and the truth.”
“The objective is to win. The goal is to have fun.”