Guild Wars 2

Phara Miu.2816:

Hmm we had a 10000 point lead from saturday morning untill Sunday night…. explain pls ?

we lead all others (except 1×24H) since the release ( =22 days)
explain plz ?

elvy.9085:

Anyway friday night, when I went to bed at 4, we were ahead in point, not far but ahead, and wake up to find the canadian/russian players tagged the forts during night and went 10K ahead.

Then we slowly reduced it to 7K through sunday, despite fighting all afternoon on desolation map, vs Desolation and FS at once, trying to get bay fort.

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Ah and btw gg to the non-whiners of FS who gave us a nice fight this week-end, was pretty epic and fun.

This exactly.

Proving night capping may be a problem, to fix, maybe with population taken into account for score calculation. And proving there is no need of speaking down to us, when you do the same.

You take a lead when other servers are sleeping……ah well why even bother talking here….

This week you guys take 50k points in the night making it imposible for Desolation or Far Shiverpeaks to gain decent points.

Many people are already fed up with WvW, the queue times + your Epic Player versus Gate guilds are making sure of that.

What can we do now ? upgrading out keeps again untill midnight only to wake up and see a FULLY green map again ?
And getting spawn camped for 4 hours untill we manage to get some even numbers inside Borderlands….

We can discuss this all day long about who is better and who has more weight, but untill your Player versus Gate players stop we will never know do we ?

Phara Miu.2816:

We can discuss this all day long about who is better and who has more weight, but untill your Player versus Gate players stop we will never know do we ?

Or maybe A.Net will do something about it, so it’s fair for everybody. FS didn’t stop Friday night when they got more in numbers did they ?

Phara :

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/64705-vizunah-squrefr-far-shiverpeaks-desolation/#entry1933948

someone please explain how when you take someone’s keep while they’re sleeping, it’s fair. but when they take yours when you’re sleeping, it’s not? i’m still confused about that part.

Never said it’s unfair.

RvR is always open, that’s the rules, i don’t want to go back with WoW, aion, warhammer PvP. Brrrr.

So we can all agree there is no point in arguing anymore , the game allows to pve vs doors to win and we all must accept it .
Maybe in future arenanet will try to balance it , let’s wait and see .

Makes me sad seeing insults and accusations here… why can’t we just kill each other in peace?

All this bickering aside, I’m from Desolation and played some nighttime on the weekend on our own BG. It was a blast, but I saw one big theme that basicly puts as miles behind FS and VS so far:

No response from pug. None whatsovever. Many times we have few smart players calling in /map about what’s happening, and taking the time to travel all across the map to see that there’d still be time to defend the objective, but there’s like 30vs5 offense happening.

I’m hoping once casual get bored of WvW the organized teams will have an easier time to queue. I also believe that there are some sort of queue helpers in place for more experienced WvW players as my friends queued nearly 10 minutes after me (a newbie) and got in about 20 minutes sooner. They should make it even stricter, that way mainly WvW playing players would be there contributing instead of randoms running around.

This is sooooo sad. You would like so hard to be #1 EU server and can’t achieve it, so you have to accuse others of cheating, having Canadians or Africans,…
Did you ever look at African time zones difference with EU? Not even mentioning the quality of most African countries internet lines quality?

Now you try to prove somehow that you are the best because you took the points during the last week-end. Did you mention you managed to get allied / mutual non-aggression pact with Desolation (http://www.farshiverpeaks.com/forum/index.php?topic=938.0)?

We were trying to defend Stonemist Castle against 2 servers on Friday late evening (one on each corridor only focused against ourselves and not fighting each other). Did we cried like babies because we were 1 Vs 2? This is being #1 in the spirit, we fought until our last breath and even if we lose we raise back and fight, we have players dedicated to play during the night, we have players ready to suffer during the day, we are just here to fight and give the best of us. Not to whine when we lose. It is the price to pay when you are number one. The day we won’t be number one, I am pretty sure all the Canadians and Africans will migrate to the #1 server, and #2 or #3 will find new arguments to accuse #1 of cheating, being unfair etc…

You just made me even more laughing…

However, taunts and lies apart, there were good fights and I thank all VS, FS and Desolation WvW players for that!

I would love to hear the thoughts of the third server caught between these two cry baby servers. How does it feel to be sliced apart like a pizza?

travosaga.6089:

I would love to hear the thoughts of the third server caught between these two cry baby servers. How does it feel to be sliced apart like a pizza?

Desolation? We hold our own, I think that’s enough. We aren’t organised enough to beat them, but we can put up a fight if they bring it.

FS and VS are obviously the better servers, but it is disheartening to see 100% of the world belong to one server. We know we are all about even strength, so when I log-off a level playing field and come back to an obviously night-capped world, I do have to sigh.

I agree with both sides. On the one hand yes, it is part of the game, but on the other there should be counter-measures to at least balance the night populations and make sure this doesn’t happen. I can’t imagine its fun for anyone, not even the server that capped everything.

Naurthoron.3291:

This is sooooo sad. You would like so hard to be #1 EU server and can’t achieve it, so you have to accuse others of cheating, having Canadians or Africans,…
Did you ever look at African time zones difference with EU? Not even mentioning the quality of most African countries internet lines quality?

Now you try to prove somehow that you are the best because you took the points during the last week-end. Did you mention you managed to get allied / mutual non-aggression pact with Desolation (http://www.farshiverpeaks.com/forum/index.php?topic=938.0)?

We were trying to defend Stonemist Castle against 2 servers on Friday late evening (one on each corridor only focused against ourselves and not fighting each other). Did we cried like babies because we were 1 Vs 2? This is being #1 in the spirit, we fought until our last breath and even if we lose we raise back and fight, we have players dedicated to play during the night, we have players ready to suffer during the day, we are just here to fight and give the best of us. Not to whine when we lose. It is the price to pay when you are number one. The day we won’t be number one, I am pretty sure all the Canadians and Africans will migrate to the #1 server, and #2 or #3 will find new arguments to accuse #1 of cheating, being unfair etc…

You just made me even more laughing…

However, taunts and lies apart, there were good fights and I thank all VS, FS and Desolation WvW players for that!

pff im a south african playing on FS with our 150man guild, 70ms, internet is fine. our timezones with europe is normally an hour off or hour on so thats no problem either, FS does not have a 24/7 wvw community running that is what this whole wa wa wa threads about XD

Desolation is a good server to fight, honest warriors on the battlefield, offcourse yo can sandwitched sometimes, it happens to FS and VS and Desolation at times.

Still this issue aint about crying to be #1 or #2 or #3 in the list of fame in EU, its about losing a whole map full off upgrades over a few hours sleep….

But its been mentioned more then enough, We shall see what Anet can do about this.
1 thing is for sure, You french already had a bad name, and your not making it better.

I know the feeling. I was on Borlis Pass until I simply couldn’t take it anymore. Now
I’m on Crystal Desert and I’m much happier. I wish guilds would start transferring down instead of up. This would spread the competition out and reduce queue times.

Phara Miu.2816:

1 thing is for sure, You french already had a bad name, and your not making it better.

http://www.farshiverpeaks.com/forum/index.php?topic=911.msg5118#msg5118

How do you call this?

Phara Miu.2816:

You french already had a bad name, and your not making it better.

Point is #1 always has a bad name from sore losers, whatever his origin is…

Battousai.7586:

pff im a south african playing on FS with our 150man guild, 70ms, internet is fine. our timezones with europe is normally an hour off or hour on so thats no problem either, FS does not have a 24/7 wvw community running that is what this whole wa wa wa threads about XD

I know it gets better and better, but some countries in Africa are not as lucky as South Africa in terms of latency towards Europe. You confirmed there is no big time zone difference with CET, so let’s focus on the Canadian false rants for night capping, Africans can be dismissed once and for all ;p

15min VP checkpoints is clearly a step in the right direction. If Anet were to take the next step, which would be to have hourly, “Off peak” VP checkpoints between the hours of 2.00am and 6.00am GMT, this would make the overnight capping strategy less attractive than it is at the moment.

I am on FS and I am embarrassed by all this whining about Franch Canadian 24/7 guilds etc. All is fair in love and war, and if having the no.1 server accolade is so important to FS, then fight fire with fire and invite English speaking Canadian guilds to join the server.

I for one will be happy when all the whiners leave so I don’t have to queue for 5+ hours and can take the fight to VS and whoever else makes it into the top 3. There are 15 other servers that would kill (digitally not literally) to be where Far Shiverpeaks is now.

Hello!

French Canadian playing in VS speaking.

I’m from France living in Qc, Canada since 1.5 year, I like to play with French friends that’s why I migrated to VS.

Just to clarify some points:

- I am the ONLY Canadian of my guild (Insert Coinz).

- I know a lot of Quebec players, they have NO INTEREST playing in a french server. It only means more lag for them, and they prefer playing with their fellow English speaking Canadian players and with the USA players.

- Culturally speaking, Quebec is far different from France, Quebecois are more comfortable playing with US or other CA players than with French players because of the cultural barrier. It’s not because we speak the same language that we are the same people.

About the hours:

- When you speak about timezone, you speak about something you do not know.

It’s not because I’m living in Canada that I can stop eating, stop working or stop having any other activity than playing.

The point is, the big raids and WvW battles are won when I’m not playing (usually it’s between 6-10pm Canadian hour, ie: when I come back to work, when I eat, when I watch a tv show).

IF I have the possibility to play between 6-10pm usually I’m STUCK in the queue for this period.
At last, when I play after 10pm and when I finally achieve to get inside the battlefields, the map is already all green (yesterday I started playing around 11pm, we already had 570 points), so for my point of view, the WvW is absolutely not interesting, I’m just playing in VS to be with my friends.

EXCEPTION for the Friday night, when I got in game at 10pm we had a lot of great battles with FS and finally they took the advantage.

Most of the alliance people went to bed and I ended up playing with a small group of guildmates until 2am (QC) / 8am (FR), during this period we still encountered a LOT of FS players who did the exact same thing that we did yesterday night: caping all the map while VS players were asleep. You cannot say otherwise, we had the outnumbered buff for at least 3 hours during the night.

We spent two hours doing small attacks to take supply and doing damage control but yet, FS took a big points advantage just because of that night, and it was a great strategy, leading to this really exciting WvW weekend.

I’m at last going to repeat this: when QC play on the server, the big battles are already won (or lost).

Arborstone, also a French server, does the exact same thing. You won’t see them very often since they’re in the mid-low tier but against RoS and smaller DE servers like Miller’s Sound the same thing happens. French people just cap everything at night.

Again some pathetic thread about VS and FS

Can’t you guys just play the game and have fun ? Who cares who is the best, this is already the top tier matchup. Just fight and enjoy the battle.
I wish they remove this scoring system from player view.

This is some good drama! Reminds me of QQ’s about alarm clock relic raids.

(playing myself on farshiverpeaks.. but don’t mind the current state.. makes for interesting fights in-game and on forum :P )

“@Again some pathetic thread about VS and FS

Can’t you guys just play the game and have fun ? Who cares who is the best, this is already the top tier matchup. Just fight and enjoy the battle.
I wish they remove this scoring system from player view."

Casual. Majority of players are competative

Aaaand were back to spawningcamping during night

This can’t be good for Vizunah either, eventually servers that face them might simply boycott so they go down a bracket next round. Each match they will just 100% cap in an hour then wait for reset in a week.

All accusations and drama aside.. I just think it’s a shame that these night “sessions” of dominance exist in this particular match-up. I would love to see how close it would be if the numbers were as they were waking hours for the whole 24 hours.
However, the inevitable wall of VS happens at around the same time each weekday night.
Excited to see us lot on Desolation seeming to get more organised each day.
Just a shame people have to sleep some time.. you know?

6 hours queues and stuff.. that must suck. On Desolation there’s always a Borderland with instant joinage. Which translates to both Far Shiverpeaks and Vizunah Square having simply more players 24/7.

Wether Canadians play at night for FS or wether you guys are simply more all around than us, its both unfair. But what can we do to spark interest in more people and make them good players as fast as possible? Little.

You can always come to Desolation if you like a challenge. Otherwise look for the Norn shooting the fire arrows and remember to stand close together when they rain down on you.

Who cares who’s first, second, third and what not. What counts are good fights.

So, ladies and gentlemen, it’s time to conclude this topic. Let us please put together the indisputable verified facts and clever educated deductions we all figured :

- Far Shiverpeaks is a russian server.

- Vizunah Square is an international server, it shelters 50% French, 25% Canadians and 25% other people around the globe known as being timezones mercenaries like australians, for example.

- Far Shiverpeaks is a server populated by hard-earning, 14 hours-shifts 6 days-week workers, they only do WvW during 8-12pm therefore any activies not included in this particular time frame are infamous exploits, blatant abuses and must be punished by making several threads on official forums.

- Vizunah Square is a server which shelters unemployed people who can play WvW around the clock while having a decent life, thanks to french welfare system. This server is also secretly populated by canadian guilds whose, as le Batman, only act within the shadows. There are a lot of them, but their numbers and guild names are classified. They don’t exist. They’re not even on this server. They’re Roswell, or Elvis’ death ; they’re myths, urban legends forged by lunatics.

- Far Shiverpeaks does very well during daytime, getting most of the time ahead, score wise. But they’re upset for a very particular reason : while they sleep, there is a very weird circus going on in WvW : french ninja lemmings are gathering around, organizing themselves in groups to kill doors and take over the whole map and therefore discarding Shiverpeaks hard work during daytime. This behaviour is known as “nightcapping”, it’s infamous, it’s lame, it’s Brojley (which isn’t even a word) but it’s legit, hence Shiverpeaks vivid annoyance.

- Vizunah Square do nightcapping like champions. They didn’t invent it, they’ve taken it from others and mastered it through the ages, slowly becoming specialists of that fine craft. They’re figured daytime fights are useless since the game favors night time playing. Like most vampires, they sleep during the day and bleed their victimes during the night. Vizunah Square people also like making jokes, like inventing 500+ canadian hebrew speaking age +35 guilds to upset other people. Some might refer it as “trolling”, “for the lulz” or simply “le lol”. They’re also very amused when Far Shiverpeaks don’t get these kind of jokes, because it instanly forges myths about who’s really playing on Vizunah (canadians, australians, or even French people let’s be crazy here).

- Far Shiverpeaks frown upon Vizunah Square because, while they only beat them one time out of 20, they think they deserve more credit because they don’t use dirty tactics like nightcapping or employ people from canada or australia to do the dirty job during the night. They’re heavily upset and they want the world to know it.

- Vizunah Square has 2 kind of people : the ones being quite amused with all the fuss, taking dramas with a pinch of salt, also a smile. Next to them, you have a few french people (you would mind their awful English skills) endlessly stating on forums Vizunah doesn’t have canadians or australians, Shiverpeaks being sore losers, etc. And they both speak together at the same time. It’s quite confusing for Shiverpeaks, it’s like they’re having voices in their heads telling both truth and lies at the same time.

TL;DR : Vizunah is schizophrenic, Shiverpeaks is paranoid, and that’s why everyone is going mental (that pun was intented). Good luck and good night.

Vizunah Square

Far Shiverpeaks

Desolation

Interesting stuff. Got to love how little time VS has without queues.