Anet: Requesting a review of the WvW 3-way

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Posted by: SpitfireIXA.1807

SpitfireIXA.1807

This is not a full complaint, since I am having fun being challenged in WvW right now, but, putting my game designer hat on, don’t you think that the three-team WvW is flawed? While I give respect to Jade Quarry and Blackgate for their history of T1, once they decided to permanently 2v1 anyone else, they can easily stay there, not through any particular effort or skill of their own at this point.

I would suggest that, if one duplicated the TC or YB server into 2v1 twins and set them at the top of T1, they would stay there, simply because of game mechanics.

Since the new map system may restrict coverage times in some way, it sounds like this will only get worse, as the only way to stay competitive against any 2v1 is to out-coverage them. And if the math is simply not there to compete, that sounds bad for WvW as a whole.

Anet’s thoughts?

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Posted by: SpitfireIXA.1807

SpitfireIXA.1807

I want to reiterate that my concern is not really the current situation or any particular server, but I see a big risk to WvW participation coming up. I think guilds will go to the true GvG, any other players will PvE, and WvW will become a wasteland. I’d hate to see that happen, because WvW is a lot of fun.

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Posted by: Swamurabi.7890

Swamurabi.7890

How do you stop the bandwagoning if it’s a 1v1. WvW has already had enough bandwagoning for three years.

Do you think it should be a 1v1v1v1?
How about a 2v2?
How would you stop a JQ/BG alliance in those?

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Posted by: kefro.9312

kefro.9312

I only see a 1vs1 between JQ, BG and a small little tryhard tier 2 server in the midle of them begging for attention but no one cares about them

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Posted by: duhoh.3726

duhoh.3726

look, JQ has gotten 2v1’d for over a year. the server almost died until TW decided to wake up the NA militia and transferred there. they don’t complain about it. they just deal with it.

that’s something you rookie yaks need to learn how to adapt to. BG and TC don’t whine about 2v1 either when it happens to them for a waypointed keep.

it’s all map politics.

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Posted by: LetoII.3782

LetoII.3782

Don’t look back now YB ppl, this is your dream <3

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Posted by: dancingmonkey.4902

dancingmonkey.4902

This is not a full complaint, since I am having fun being challenged in WvW right now, but, putting my game designer hat on, don’t you think that the three-team WvW is flawed? While I give respect to Jade Quarry and Blackgate for their history of T1, once they decided to permanently 2v1 anyone else, they can easily stay there, not through any particular effort or skill of their own at this point.

I would suggest that, if one duplicated the TC or YB server into 2v1 twins and set them at the top of T1, they would stay there, simply because of game mechanics.

Since the new map system may restrict coverage times in some way, it sounds like this will only get worse, as the only way to stay competitive against any 2v1 is to out-coverage them. And if the math is simply not there to compete, that sounds bad for WvW as a whole.

Anet’s thoughts?

Your making inaccurate assumptions as to who is focusing who.

When you ask for a redesign based on inaccurate assumption, it cannot be a posotive change for anyone e, as far as rethinking game design goes.

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Posted by: Dawdler.8521

Dawdler.8521

Review of what? The 3-way system? Its better than 2-way and not as complicated as 4-way. Hence, its the most sound way to do things.

The way servers get points and the way glicko ranks them… that’s a whole other matter.

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Posted by: Radian.2478

Radian.2478

This forum post was remarkably inaccurate. Jade Quarry, Blackgate, and Tarnished Coast have all been 2v1’d multiple times. If JQ and BG always 2v1’d their opponents as OP suggested, TC would have dropped out of T1 much faster and would have gotten last place in every single T1 matchup by a longshot (which wasn’t the case).