When you fight a server with higher pop and they have all 3 orbs. When they have enough people to recap all 3 orbs and push our keeps/towers/camps at the same time. When their zergs are made up of 60 with 3 orbs and we have 25-30. What should we do?
Also how do we get people to transfer to a server and balance the pop and do your job for you? How do we tell people to transfer to mid tier servers with 75% PvE population for 1800 gems instead of going to a stacked server with more WvW players for same cost? How do we do this?
Also How do you gather data right now? How can your data not show that servers with higher pop take orbs and are stronger against weaker pop servers? How do you not have weeks of matches results and not know which servers need to be perma-matched because of pop imbalance? How much more data do you need?
Also why should a average wvw player post on this forum if you consider them a vocal minority? Even if they are vocal minority do their opinions not matter enough to warrant a change? Looking at the posts since bloodlust release how many are in favor of the buff? Do you have the data on this or are you still crunching?
Please anet help me help myself to enjoy the game. You guys must have experience playing against higher pop servers with 3 bloodlust buffs and constantly outnumbered. Please tell us how you defeated them. I bet you have hundreds of hours in WvW please tell us how bloodlust has helped you enjoy the game more?
Well, I’m just guessing here, but if you are up against a server who can hold 3 orbs while simultaneously taking and holding their own keeps. bloodlust is the least of your worries. As for population imbalance, there’s plenty of ideas thrown out there, but ultimately it’s up to the player to chose. you might be fine with Anet one day giving you a message saying that due to server imbalance issue you have been sent to server X and have no choice in the matter, but I think it’ll kitten plenty of players off.
As for wether the vocal minority opinion should matter or not. I should, but if the cost is losing the interest of the satisfied majorty and end up losing more customers, then guess what they won’t implement?
Well, I’m just guessing here, but if you are up against a server who can hold 3 orbs while simultaneously taking and holding their own keeps. bloodlust is the least of your worries. As for population imbalance, there’s plenty of ideas thrown out there, but ultimately it’s up to the player to chose. you might be fine with Anet one day giving you a message saying that due to server imbalance issue you have been sent to server X and have no choice in the matter, but I think it’ll kitten plenty of players off.
As for wether the vocal minority opinion should matter or not. I should, but if the cost is losing the interest of the satisfied majorty and end up losing more customers, then guess what they won’t implement?
Before bloodlust we consolidated to two borders and did the best. With even numbers or outmanned it was atleast fun to try hold the zerg or attempt open field. But now with orbs the fights are even more lopsided. Pop imbalance is hard but anet has to attempt something… they haven’t taken a single step towards balancing pop in wvw.
Anet does seem to be psychic it seems. They gather data from satisfied majority without them voicing their concerns or feedback. According to anet the satisfied majority is anyone playing the game after their changes. So even the vocal minority dissatisfied will count as satisfied majority as long as they keep playing. Weird way to get feedback.
Well, I’m just guessing here, but if you are up against a server who can hold 3 orbs while simultaneously taking and holding their own keeps. bloodlust is the least of your worries.
The thing is i don’t know anyone who think the buff is a good idea. There are 2 attitudes : 1) it’s terrible, WvW will die etc… 2) it’s bad but not THAT bad because there are things that make the game even more unbalanced. And it’s Anet decision so even if it’s bad there is no need to complain it won’t be changed.
I’m in the 2nd case but that doesn’t make me a happy customer.
pretty sure they have ruined their own game to such an extent that it’s beyond the point of repair.
a lot of players were dissatisfied with the game (WvW), guilds dying etc., and THEN they added bloodlust lol. nowhere to go but further downhill.
the good news for Anet is, this is going to be a very quiet Q4 as far as gaming releases are concerned, so they shouldn’t have any trouble holding on to existing players. oh wait lol!
well they could start by making the outmanned thing ACTUALLY useful. If they are going to add more stats for the ppl with more numbers why the hell not give the outmanned guys more stats. Its not fair in any kitten sense to give the winning side more reason to keep on winning. MAKE OUT MANNED USEFUL. No one wants stupid MF in effin wvw. No one comes to wvw to use mf.
well they could start by making the outmanned thing ACTUALLY useful. If they are going to add more stats for the ppl with more numbers why the hell not give the outmanned guys more stats. Its not fair in any kitten sense to give the winning side more reason to keep on winning. MAKE OUT MANNED USEFUL. No one wants stupid MF in effin wvw. No one comes to wvw to use mf.
the reason why they don’t want it useful is because they don’t want users to start relying on it, which i can see but in its current case its completely useless (only “useful” thing is no armor repairs). come on Anet please make it slightly useful. unless you don’t care about the side getting steamrolled.
Well, I’m just guessing here, but if you are up against a server who can hold 3 orbs while simultaneously taking and holding their own keeps. bloodlust is the least of your worries. As for population imbalance, there’s plenty of ideas thrown out there, but ultimately it’s up to the player to chose. you might be fine with Anet one day giving you a message saying that due to server imbalance issue you have been sent to server X and have no choice in the matter, but I think it’ll kitten plenty of players off.
As for wether the vocal minority opinion should matter or not. I should, but if the cost is losing the interest of the satisfied majorty and end up losing more customers, then guess what they won’t implement?
My problem is that anet says the forums are a vocal minority and for the most part I understand that.
However, when was the last time Anet polled you in-game when you entered wvw to see what you want? Or what you would like? Or ask for feedback on their changes? You know…the thing most companies do to get ACTUAL …REAL… feedback.
If they did that, then at the end of the day came here and told us that the majority of people loved the bloodlust buff….fine…I accept..but since they DON’T have that….the next best thing to use IMO…would be these forums…combined with whatever metrics they have.
well they could start by making the outmanned thing ACTUALLY useful. If they are going to add more stats for the ppl with more numbers why the hell not give the outmanned guys more stats. Its not fair in any kitten sense to give the winning side more reason to keep on winning. MAKE OUT MANNED USEFUL. No one wants stupid MF in effin wvw. No one comes to wvw to use mf.
the reason why they don’t want it useful is because they don’t want users to start relying on it, which i can see but in its current case its completely useless (only “useful” thing is no armor repairs). come on Anet please make it slightly useful. unless you don’t care about the side getting steamrolled.
well the winning side relies on getting the orbs to get near unstoppable so why shouldnt the outmanned losing side get a buff of hope rather then mf uselessness in wvw.
Sorry couldn’t resist… How it is designed WvW will have always weaker servers and stronger ones… with all downsides such as not even getting the ruines covered for your weak server
The only thing what makes lower servers attractive to guilds is smallscale fights and maybe…
…hey what about such a solution: we are annoyed of big zergs/blobs… we wan’t GvG without bloodlust? We want also to make low WvW populated servers more attractive?
there you go: implement a separate GvG map without those bloodlust buffs (like the JP) accessible only via WvW… but unlock this GvG map only for the 5 weakest servers in respect of their WvW server ranking.
So the weakest Servers might become attractive to GvG-only oriented guilds and they should stack with that servers… whilst they got no match they would probably roam as guild in the BLs maybe.
For those guilds zerging opponents is no more an issue – bloodlust buff would not interfear in that separate map and last but not least it would be a win situation for those weakest 5 servers… In case they become stronger too fast the GvG map would be locked up.
Even Anet would love such an implementation as it provides some more gems consumption for them (sorry for that sarcasm)
absolute crazy idea or a push into a new direction??
