Guild Wars 2

Drakkar Lake DE v Whiteside Ridge v Vabbi

So this is the 2nd week in a row were facing DE servers, by Sunday it was aim for 2nd place yet again, because we simply cannot compete against the numbers on the other server, it’s not been a question of tactics or motivation they have pure and utter numbers, every single night of the week has been nightcapping from Drakkar’s with barely any of our server getting on till 4 or so, I haven’t seen Vabbi since Sunday, even on the weekend we had 2 towers in EB and Drakkar and Vabbi weren’t attacking eachother and we were being pushed on both sides, currently losing our Garrison in our own Borderlands, they have enough people to send a 30 man zerg to Garrison and build 4 trebs on Cliffside and also send a zerg upto the orb, we barely have 5 people defending Garrison and it’s beyond a joke. Even at peak time we have just enough people to fill 2 areas, the rest are overrun with Drakkar and theres absolutely nothing we can do about it.

The real problem I see here is the “aim for 2nd place part”. The ranking system should be changed so that there’s no benefit to placing 2nd best. This just makes it so much easier for the winning server, if the other two servers start fighting each other.

Well Anvil Rock have been in that spot since release, so I feel you man! :P

The ranking has an issue that I don’t know how they can resolve. My tier ( and it seems yours too) have a huge population disparity with the tier ahead of us. We got a perma outmanned buff except maybe during 1-2 hour primetime with them. Sadly each week, one of them is going down, stomping our kitten

And since Anvil Rock always finish 2nd, we stay in that tier. The score with the third place is close, but to this day we always finished second, and prolly this week too. Sadly, it means that next week we will fight another outnumbering server.

Until we finish third, we will always be stuck getting stomped by one server.

Anvil Rock, Ferguson and Borliss Pass would be the perfect match up I think, but sadly it won’t happen because of the ranking.

I don’t know how we can resolve that!

Few servers balance properly because 2 servers typically end up bickering over 2nd spot.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/How-to-combat-folding-in-WvWvW-Constructive/first#post337466

Ive re-posted this thread a lot, just because it makes so much sense and I hope that it gets read.

Thing is we haven’t been fighting eachother, I’ve been in WvW a good majority of the days since reset and I haven’t seen a Vabbi player since EB on Sunday night, given the score it looks like Vabbi has given up, were always fighting in our own Borderland and eternal, theres just not enough of us to put up a decent fight. By Saturday morning Drakkar had capped almost everything and were so far ahead in the points that we targeted Vabbi just because there were so many more Drakkar, trying to take their towers or keeps ended up with 30 defenders on the walls or focusing one of their keeps or towers left a zerg running around capping everything, we simply don’t have the numbers to fight back.

Well , we at the last tier have been fighting the Germans all the time and the FoW are also non-existant.
We’re fighting back as hard as we can, but we just don’t have enough people to fight them off. Yet we still put up a fight as hard as we can.
Although we DO look forward to next week where as the standings stand, you (WR) will drop to the last tier. We’re rejoicing because we will finally not have a german zerg to fight.

Mattress.3629:

Thing is we haven’t been fighting eachother, I’ve been in WvW a good majority of the days since reset and I haven’t seen a Vabbi player since EB on Sunday night, given the score it looks like Vabbi has given up, were always fighting in our own Borderland and eternal, theres just not enough of us to put up a decent fight. By Saturday morning Drakkar had capped almost everything and were so far ahead in the points that we targeted Vabbi just because there were so many more Drakkar, trying to take their towers or keeps ended up with 30 defenders on the walls or focusing one of their keeps or towers left a zerg running around capping everything, we simply don’t have the numbers to fight back.

It becomes systemic in its nature.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/The-Self-Balancing-System/first#post327649

Honestly this is nothing.

You should see Vizunah Square, it’s a french server and they literally cap all 4 maps during the night, every morning I wake up and log in to check stats it’s the same.

It’s because over night the Franco-Candians play on that server and while the European pop of the servers Riverside and Far Shiverpeaks is asleep they will own the entire map, usually we manage to get some stuff back during the day only to lose it all again in the next night.

I feel during local night times from let’s say 12am to 8am there should only be 1/3 of points awarded and Orbs shouldn’t be move able.

Otherwise servers that have a lot of players from other continents playing will always have a big advantage over normal servers.

Yphex.2136:

I feel during local night times from let’s say 12am to 8am there should only be 1/3 of points awarded and Orbs shouldn’t be move able.

Otherwise servers that have a lot of players from other continents playing will always have a big advantage over normal servers.

Better would be to have the point reduction based on the population imbalance than time of day.

The main issue is that we are only a medium server and we are constantly placed against at least 1 high server, making it literally impossible to compete.

If match ups were based on population rather than the awful points system our matches would be much more balanced and enjoyable.