Guild Wars 2

It’s the only thing I truly dislike in the map.

The rest, I feel, is just a learning curve, but the laser show honestly feels like I’m being forced to pve.

Any chance of returning the bloodlust ruins (yes, keep the shrines, too)?

Pretty please? It seems to lag out the whole map, too.

Yea, I am not sure why this would be considered a good idea, considering how badly Skyhammer got poo-poo’d out.

My two cents:

Was alone on our BL the other day and chatting to a friend, the laser event was up, so I killed some PvE mobs and told my friend I had no time to chat anymore as there was only 45mins left on the clock and I had 5 rectors or whatever turned in and was at 10%.
I didn’t make it – 10 enemies came in and did it in “no time”.
At least I occupied 4 of them.. slight consolation

Anyway, I like the events on EB, don’t ask me why, maybe because I can do them alone in a reasonable time, maybe because it helps/helped my camp, maybe because EB has always been my favourite map and I got used to it. But the laser event is a bit too much.

Would you find it better if it scaled similar to EB mosquitos?

Zoel.9154:

Would you find it better if it scaled similar to EB mosquitos?

Yeah I could probably live with that … It just seems to lag out the map tho.

And Mosquitos don’t bash down the keep door if it’s ignored.

Eh dunno. Not really a fan I guess.

I think the laser event is really interesting in concept.

The idea seems to be to pull all of the servers to the map with the event on it, and to some extent it works. The problems occur when sides give up, and this happens a LOT.

Let’s propose a scenario: We don’t bother turning up to the event because we know the enemy have more players/more people at the event/our few there got wiped and told us.

Result:
The enemy who did the event say that the event is boring and PvE because there was no fight. They take the map with little-to-no resistance because the other side has given up.

Conclusion:
How is this different than the Alpine maps which were often karma-trained by a dominant side?

There’s an interesting event in the middle which would be received with far more positivity if the old problems of uneven matchups and/or one world/server having greater numerical advantages/disadvantages at specific times of day.

Zoel.9154:

Would you find it better if it scaled similar to EB mosquitos?

Alright, I was talking about the moles, ogres and frogs.
But the mosquitos have their own right – as a warning system – hit a few and if an enemy zerg rushes through and your “event succeded” pops up you know that Klov/golanta/jerri are in danger

Edit: Or of course QL and dane.

@Svarty. I Would be fine if running the event generated some Uber temporary bloodlust. I think you’re right that it has potential to bring everyone in … The problem now is if the home team doesn’t control it, it nukes your keep. So it’s already become like a chore on my server than some extra added bonus.

Please remove Skyhammer. Anet devs promised to give us a possibility to sleep and to work without easy caps at meanwhile. Skyhammer can be done easily and it opens all gates. Impossible to defend when our players are away.

Four or so enemies did the event and opened gates to “hills”. I had time to close only 2 outer gates. I died on the third gate. Closing means just closing, not repairing properly. It was easy cap. I was alone in the map and could not stop them doing the event. I could do nothing.

Anet devs promised. They did opposite.

So far not liked the event (not done it much though, need to test it more etc). But I *suspect* that they might have made this with some of the changes they plan forward in mind.

Thus I suspect it will keep being bad until all their planned new changes is revealed. In which case, I’d rather they just disabled it, and stuff an arena in the middle, where people can fight for points in some controlled manner (like cap points that only allow 1 person from each side inside at a time).

This event is to be removed…. It’s one of the condition for me to stay in the game….
I hate this event, he has nothing to do here… Keep the event, remove the canon, give some bonus chest to player who succeed…. At least remove this canon….
This event is just here for more KT. My team lost our map because this event, and our team take ennemy map with this event. There is no glory or honor to take ennemy map just with killing some pve mobs…. Do the event, damage all the gates and just finish the job with your KT.

The main problem is the event isn’t fun. It is already becoming a chore, it takes like 10 minutes to complete and there is ZERO reward. Give us a bouncing chest or something.

The laser pve event, is imo a not so much pve event. It’s trying to get big scale fights.
But now only 1 server is using it.

what the point to do the event ?
2 solution :
– You are the stronger team on the map, you will always win the event and this will just help you to take ennemy stuff.
– You are the weaker, you will always loose and this will just help your ennemy to take the stuff you have already difficulty to hold.

And I see now multiple time during the day that just no one do the event ! No team at all…. Because it’s boring like hell…

Setup a gentlemens agreement, no1 is using it.

AnniMira.2506:

Please remove Skyhammer. Anet devs promised to give us a possibility to sleep and to work without easy caps at meanwhile. Skyhammer can be done easily and it opens all gates. Impossible to defend when our players are away.

Four or so enemies did the event and opened gates to “hills”. I had time to close only 2 outer gates. I died on the third gate. Closing means just closing, not repairing properly. It was easy cap. I was alone in the map and could not stop them doing the event. I could do nothing.

Anet devs promised. They did opposite.

I do not recall reading that, do you have a link to what “promises” they specifically made?

The new center-map event reminds me of the old quaggan event in the middle of the vanilla borderland maps which would randomly send down a bolt of lightning to daze random enemy players anywhere on the map. Except this new quaggan is on meth. Okay, the quaggan is a laser.

The mechanic is still very much a larger-group-wins event. And obviously the implications of it overflow beyond just the event but continue against a smaller home/defending team because the laser is merely a primer to a new team color covering the map (that of the larger invading force). Or even reverse the roles and have a larger home force that primes a roll against a smaller invading force that wants to hunker down at a tower/keep to defend and deter a recap.

I can see the upper tiers maybe being able to respond sometimes to this threat on their home BL (if the WvW populations don’t remain overly stagnant), but defenders on lower tiers don’t stand a chance. All aboard the k-train every few hours.

Also, is it feasible for a small defending team to run around the ENTIRE MAP to repair all of the damage that was just dealt over a minute’s time? Waiting for upgrades to finish/repair will rarely be a timely option. If the NPCs began auto-repairing the damaged structures as they do in EotM then at least that softens the blow but only if they used their own supply (not from the depot in case players do intend to siege up the tower/keep for the imminent enemy force).

Wish Anet would design into the map a Bloodlust-type deal in the center for the roaming focused players again. Currently rather than attackers/defenders PvP’ing over multiple nodes for a benefit of sorts to your team across all maps (or just for the fight), we are instead given a PvE event that rewards the largest group that shows up to the party with their own map-wide I-win button of sorts.

/shrug

akeldama.6709:

I can see the upper tiers maybe being able to respond sometimes to this threat on their home BL (if the WvW populations don’t remain overly stagnant), but defenders on lower tiers don’t stand a chance. All aboard the k-train every few hours.

T1 here, just saying because people keep the myth that lower tiers are low pop alive.
I think the biggest problem with this event is that you have to turn in whatever you carved out of the mobs – so the more people the faster it goes – if I just had to kill the mobs I’d stand a chance.

Edit: Or better “lower servers are far lower populated” -not really true in my experience.
Edit²: Although this topic is far more complex. there’s a difference between EU and NA – on EU servers are usually dead for a few hours each day, the servers that aren’t during the time others are get their PPT by karma train – those are in “every tier”. So it might seem as if a server is better than they actually are. There is no real 24/7 coverage in EU, so at some point a server will outnumber the other/s, no matter what.

True, this should have been a full takeable objectif, like a mini shadowmist, instead of this dinohunt PvE event …

Please Arena dev, shut down that laser and change it as you did with orbs.

Angelyne.2936:

True, this should have been a full takeable objectif, like a mini shadowmist, instead of this dinohunt PvE event …

So this event would be much better received if the following changes were made?

1. Remove mobs and power cores
2. Add ring and guards

Svarty.8019:

Angelyne.2936:

True, this should have been a full takeable objectif, like a mini shadowmist, instead of this dinohunt PvE event …

So this event would be much better received if the following changes were made?

1. Remove mobs and power cores
2. Add ring and guards

Or multiple control points (5?) decently spread. And the laser does less damage.

This event can easily be fixed by changing the following:
1) change announcement time from 10 minutes to 1 minute, this way only people that reacted fast enough get it
2) change the event time from 50 minutes to 10 minutes, this way organized groups get it first
3) make the laser attack only the gates and not touch the oil and the wall because right now the outpost tower gets all 3 damaged
4) reduce the damage by 70%

Catalin.5341:

This event can easily be fixed by changing the following:
1) change announcement time from 10 minutes to 1 minute, this way only people that reacted fast enough get it
2) change the event time from 50 minutes to 10 minutes, this way organized groups get it first
3) make the laser attack only the gates and not touch the oil and the wall because right now the outpost tower gets all 3 damaged
4) reduce the damage by 70%

Or just make it optional, so it doesn’t feel like a chore.