T3 is pretty stale, same 3 servers seem to be in it every single week.
Last week JQ was in T3, Mag was in T2. This weeK Mag is in T3 JQ is in T2. So T2 and T3 are actually having the most server movement currently.
In the month before relinking it was mag/SoS/sbi. In the two months before relinking, occasionally FA would drop and mag or SBI would move up.
It’s really stale.
The only way you will really mix up the servers consistently and prevent stale matchups is to change the system.
Keeping the current servers as PvE servers, for example, and make new WvW servers you choose in addtion to your PvE " home base server" you would be able to shake it up and keep resetting WvW servers periodically mixing it up every time they do a WvW server reset. Making everyone select new WvW servers every now and then to match the WvW population count would keep it fresh and not let it get this stale, and would prevent overstacking.
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So maybe tier 1 then. I really don’t care so much about stale or score. I just want fights…preferably not yoloing into a 1v30+ because that’s all I can get. Currently in T4 hell where the new blob server virtuoso has already won long ago but would rather ktrain doors and run down roamers with a blob then do anything fun.
It really is ok to take the map. I get it. There’s nothing else to do. Back capping everything every 5 minutes or running a 60+ blob to a camp off ri. Catch is people on the other server will just log eventually and you’re left beating down doors. And I’m left yoloing into blobs with stragglers because everyone else was smart enough to find something better to do. Wow mini rant
Guess I’ll check out tier 1 and 2 and see what’s up.
I’m just surprised JQ is still “very high” status. I watched three massive guilds from JQ pour into our bay today against all 25 of us FA guys. How are they not full status?
This population + server merge thing isn’t working out. Beta is gonna last forever lol
I’m just surprised JQ is still “very high” status. I watched three massive guilds from JQ pour into our bay today against all 25 of us FA guys. How are they not full status?
This population + server merge thing isn’t working out. Beta is gonna last forever lol
I think you should blame your server’s fair weather players. JQ has like one of the worst NA coverage among higher tier servers but somehow they’re able to keep up the PPT during NA. Some level of steamrolling during SEA is kinda expected though because that’s JQ’s prime time.
I’m just surprised JQ is still “very high” status. I watched three massive guilds from JQ pour into our bay today against all 25 of us FA guys. How are they not full status?
This population + server merge thing isn’t working out. Beta is gonna last forever lol
I think you should blame your server’s fair weather players. JQ has like one of the worst NA coverage among higher tier servers but somehow they’re able to keep up the PPT during NA. Some level of steamrolling during SEA is kinda expected though because that’s JQ’s prime time.
FA is getting focused this week. FABL was getting bombed by multiple opposing zergs from both YB and JQ last night as well.
As for OP’s question of even coverage/population, Tier 2 is definitely not that. In fact all the tiers appear unbalanced except the current tier 1 (BG/TC/DB)…some dramatically so (quadserver).
This population + server merge thing isn’t working out. Beta is gonna last forever lol
Server linkings are past Beta I believe. Enough people voted in support of the idea that it’s now permanent or so I thought I read. I’ll have to see if I can find it where it was brought up. Sad to see how many people are now realizing that it’s not really solving anything.
I thought server linking was only part of the population fixes. So there may yet be more in the works there. Plus the scoring fixes will definitely change the picture, by weakening the effect of coverage gaps, controversial or not.
The decision to make it permanent doesn’t make it not in beta. A game or other software is committed to be developed long before it enters the beta phase!
X being in beta doesn’t mean “we’re not sure whether we’re going to go through with x”, it means “we’re still ironing out the wrinkles of x’s final form”.
“Beta” =/= “unofficial”. That’s my entire point. Whether it is in alpha or beta or final release has absolutely nothing to do with whether something is official.
Yea, the linkings were voted on and are now permanent. They change every 2 months.
But yea, am not sure if they’re considered past beta yet, or not. I am sure that Tris is correct in that they’re still ironing out and tweaking things with the linkings.
Just going from being linked with tier 1 TC last time, and now Kaineng is in a wild 4 server linking is proof of that, imo.
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“Beta” =/= “unofficial”. That’s my entire point. Whether it is in alpha or beta or final release has absolutely nothing to do with whether something is official.
In this case, the thought was beta/test would try links. Links would stay or be removed from gw2 wvw dependent on a vote. Vote has taken place, so no longer beta. Can the way links work evolve? Of course things can change with how links work, but it is not beta in the way it was implied.
This population + server merge thing isn’t working out. Beta is gonna last forever lol
seems pretty clearly to be talking about how far we have to go before server linkages can reach a good state, not about whether the decision to keep linkages had been made or not. But perhaps I misread it, and it is actually sarcastic griping with overtones of conspiracy theory, sure.
Nothing will change until ANET does away with this terrible ppt/glicko system that awards night capping coverage wars. Win you go up lose you go down would be pretty sweet and the match ups would always be fresh. locked tiers are terrible.
Tier 1 is good and very fun. However, the match up will probably not remain the same.
I get the feeling BG is hibernating this week to feed glicko to DB, and TC isn’t pushing that hard either. I’m sure JQ will be back in t1 soon too once they leeched enough off of YB.
DB, JQ will be flipping t1/2
YB, Mag will be flipping t2/3 maybe.
As for the links, I don’t expect it to be the long term solution. Servers will continue to lose population especially the linked ones as players continue to move to hosts or leave the game. Once they all get down to a low enough population, permanent merges can be looked at, and at that point players should be more receptive of it too.
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May as well do the server merges now for the lower tiers because trying to get 3 or more servers coordinated and then get shuffled again every two months is probably going to frustrate and wear out a lot of commanders and players.
May as well do the server merges now for the lower tiers because trying to get 3 or more servers coordinated and then get shuffled again every two months is probably going to frustrate and wear out a lot of commanders and players.
Can you imagine if that 4 link was a permanent merge? lol. Then again they would just rise in ratings anyways, but holy hell the complaints the other servers would have.
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Tier 1 is good and very fun. However, the match up will probably not remain the same.
I get the feeling BG is hibernating this week to feed glicko to DB, and TC isn’t pushing that hard either. I’m sure JQ will be back in t1 soon too once they leeched enough off of YB.
DB, JQ will be flipping t1/2
YB, Mag will be flipping t2/3 maybe.
As for the links, I don’t expect it to be the long term solution. Servers will continue to lose population especially the linked ones as players continue to move to hosts or leave the game. Once they all get down to a low enough population, permanent merges can be looked at, and at that point players should be more receptive of it too.
Correct. I suspect Tier 1 and Tier 2 to consistently rotate some servers with the 2 month resets and re links. However, I think Yaks Bend is becoming a server thats losing it’s population base to rise to Tier 1.
Depending on what the OP is looking for and what time zone you play, I would for sure recommend DB, or any of the Tier 2 servers for that matter. Even MAG.
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To be honest, tier 2 is pretty boring. I’m happy with my choice to transfer back to FA, but JQ and YB are two of the 3 worst servers I’ve ever had the displeasure of fighting against. The other is DB. They’re all 3 boring to fight, they run and hide behind walls and use siege every chance they get unless their group is 2x your size or more. Then they may still build open field siege lol….
With FA beefing up our coverage, I suspect we’re going to be stuck with JQ and YB for awhile unless they implode. I do miss the fights in T3… :\
A lot of that depends on time zone. I’ve found a ton of great fights and enjoyment in T1 this week when I’ve been on. I play right in the heart of NA Primetime usually and that massively skews my perspective.
Regardless of the “why” it is still nice that the scores are closer in T1 this week and not a 100K blowout.
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To be honest, tier 2 is pretty boring. I’m happy with my choice to transfer back to FA, but JQ and YB are two of the 3 worst servers I’ve ever had the displeasure of fighting against. The other is DB. They’re all 3 boring to fight, they run and hide behind walls and use siege every chance they get unless their group is 2x your size or more. Then they may still build open field siege lol….
With FA beefing up our coverage, I suspect we’re going to be stuck with JQ and YB for awhile unless they implode. I do miss the fights in T3… :\
Lets be more honest here, this happens on every server, even your own. The more organized the group that’s on the less you may see of it, but pugs always look for the advantage, whether that’s open field siege or running to a tower to wait for more numbers.
My two least favorites is YB and Mag, YB cause of siege up the yinyang, their keeps are usually loaded with ac, trebs, omegas to defend with. Mag cause every corner there’s a thief, every other step there’s a dh, or a tempest, or a scrapper looking to drop you with a friend, and condi everywhere, I think warriors are an extinct species on that server.
Another derailing post. ^^ North Keep: One of the village residents will now flee if their home is destroyed.
“Game over man, Game Over!” – RIP Bill
To be honest, tier 2 is pretty boring. I’m happy with my choice to transfer back to FA, but JQ and YB are two of the 3 worst servers I’ve ever had the displeasure of fighting against. The other is DB. They’re all 3 boring to fight, they run and hide behind walls and use siege every chance they get unless their group is 2x your size or more. Then they may still build open field siege lol….
With FA beefing up our coverage, I suspect we’re going to be stuck with JQ and YB for awhile unless they implode. I do miss the fights in T3… :\
Lets be more honest here, this happens on every server, even your own. The more organized the group that’s on the less you may see of it, but pugs always look for the advantage, whether that’s open field siege or running to a tower to wait for more numbers.
My two least favorites is YB and Mag, YB cause of siege up the yinyang, their keeps are usually loaded with ac, trebs, omegas to defend with. Mag cause every corner there’s a thief, every other step there’s a dh, or a tempest, or a scrapper looking to drop you with a friend, and condi everywhere, I think warriors are an extinct species on that server.
I’ve literally never seen any FA group drop AC’s in open field and I rarely EVER see an FA group run from a fight to retreat to siege unless they’re massively outnumbered. The thing I enjoy about FA as a server the most is that it is the most organized server of any server I’ve been on, which is almost all of them lol… I’ve been back on FA 4 times now too.
The issue with DB, YB and JQ is that they’re massive pug group servers with little real organization. FA is mostly guild groups that are organized and work together to accomplish taking objectives or taking out the enemy pug blobs. They don’t need arrow carts in open field to do that.
To be honest, tier 2 is pretty boring. I’m happy with my choice to transfer back to FA, but JQ and YB are two of the 3 worst servers I’ve ever had the displeasure of fighting against. The other is DB. They’re all 3 boring to fight, they run and hide behind walls and use siege every chance they get unless their group is 2x your size or more. Then they may still build open field siege lol….
With FA beefing up our coverage, I suspect we’re going to be stuck with JQ and YB for awhile unless they implode. I do miss the fights in T3… :\
Lets be more honest here, this happens on every server, even your own. The more organized the group that’s on the less you may see of it, but pugs always look for the advantage, whether that’s open field siege or running to a tower to wait for more numbers.
My two least favorites is YB and Mag, YB cause of siege up the yinyang, their keeps are usually loaded with ac, trebs, omegas to defend with. Mag cause every corner there’s a thief, every other step there’s a dh, or a tempest, or a scrapper looking to drop you with a friend, and condi everywhere, I think warriors are an extinct species on that server.
In tier 4, when we actually get a fight, I’ve just gotten used to being knocked down every few seconds by siege and cleansing 10 to 30 stacks of mortar burn. It’s annoying but you take what you can get. Perma treb poison helps keep the mind clear at least.
Mag was always annoying when they blobbed everything but lots of roamers and great fights around camps and such. Lots of condi thieves and mesmers but I’m seeing more of that in tier 4 lately too. Guessing cd and co has some guilds bandwagoning in. Feels like they’ve added a bit more skill or better builds recently.
They make me pay more for yoloing into outnumbered fights now. The other day though a 50+ let me drop them with a cannon against our keep gate and about 10 pushing them. Wish I’d gotten that on video.
