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Posted by: Xeeron.9254

Xeeron.9254

You see all these nice posts about “close community”, “great place to be”, “join us in our efforts”. Tons of sugarcoating for a simple message:

“We win in WvW by outnumbering the opponent. Join us so our advantage gets even bigger.”

SoS is recruiting. Really? The No1 server that has won all matchups in the last 2 months bar one (and usually without much trouble). What are you trying to achieve? Build HoD 2.0? We already had a completely broken T1 competition before, it was fun for neither side.

Kaineng recruiting while they 600+ curbstomp their opponents? Really? Are those doors too vicious for you to handle? Need more help with them?

Now, it would be bearable if people were actually honest and straight out admitted that they are in for the win, and will do whatever it takes (fun side note: The servers that get bandwagooned to by people who value the win most, also have the highest numbers of hackers on their sides. Remember BG when they first went up to T1 …).

However, all the sugary “community” sales pitch sounds exactly like that: The attempt by some win-hungry players to dress their selfishness into words that will attract others to ensure their own easy victory without having to fight.

I hope you all get what you deserve: Months and months of unbalanced and boring WvW.

Xeeron – Strike Force

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Posted by: ykyk.2740

ykyk.2740

Everyone wants to win =/

Some servers are just trying to plug outright gaping coverage gaps, others want to stomp more because they realized stomping is more fun than being stomped. Can’t really blame any of them.

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Posted by: RockonHarder.7235

RockonHarder.7235

To be honest Yak’s Bend has 4 recruitment posts going that i have seen in the last 3 days.

it can be a bit outrageous to be honest.

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Posted by: Mance.5640

Mance.5640

Strike Force come to JQ, kill SoS, be happy. =)

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Posted by: Sumwun.3846

Sumwun.3846

Doesn’t bother me at all. Nobody logs in and set’s their sights on losing. Winning will always be an underlying factor to recruitment. I see people looking for more as dedication than simply about more numbers.

The above poster makes great sense too. Their are tiers for a reason, I hope the transfers help spread more of the population more evenly across the servers.

Yorgy/Rumblestrip
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Posted by: Neeho.3859

Neeho.3859

A well matched tier is more important than moving up to a higher tier, imo. What I think people are failing to realize is that they a win on T7 is as much of a win as a win on T3; the only difference is que times. I’d rather be in T7 with 2 evenly matched servers on the other side (and low que times) than in T3 with one server stomping the other 2 (I’ve been on both sides of this, and neither is fun), not to mention having to wait 35 minutes just to get on the same map as my guild.

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Posted by: Jedahs.2713

Jedahs.2713

SF, come to SOS, fight your old enemy, the JQQ!!!!

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Posted by: Raf.1078

Raf.1078

Everyones recruiting more than usual right now due to the ending of free transfers on the 28th.

The recruiting doesn’t bother since I have map chat disabled 95% of the time.

PF/ GOAT on Tarnished Coast (Semi-Retired)
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Posted by: Sumwun.3846

Sumwun.3846

A well matched tier is more important than moving up to a higher tier, imo. What I think people are failing to realize is that they a win on T7 is as much of a win as a win on T3; the only difference is que times. I’d rather be in T7 with 2 evenly matched servers on the other side (and low que times) than in T3 with one server stomping the other 2 (I’ve been on both sides of this, and neither is fun), not to mention having to wait 35 minutes just to get on the same map as my guild.

A little bird told me that your guild moves to a new map every time you say you are loading into their current one.

Yorgy/Rumblestrip
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Posted by: Waffler.1257

Waffler.1257

I would be curios to know how effective recruitment posts are in the first place. How many people do you think log in to the WvW forum who are looking for a new server, and who among them would actually believe that Server X’s community is more fun than any other server’s because they see a post saying it is.

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Posted by: Roo Stercogburn.9671

Roo Stercogburn.9671

Yeh its dreadful. You’ll never see Gunnar’s Hold selling out like that. One moment, getting a drink.

Ah, WvW with Gunnars Hold sponsored by Coca Cola.

Enjoy Coca Cola. WvW more. On Gunnars Hold. In Nikes.

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Posted by: Waffler.1257

Waffler.1257

Yeh its dreadful. You’ll never see Gunnar’s Hold selling out like that. One moment, getting a drink.

Ah, WvW with Gunnars Hold sponsored by Coca Cola.

Enjoy Coca Cola. WvW more. On Gunnars Hold. In Nikes.

Must.. resist… catchy recruitment phrase…

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Posted by: Sumwun.3846

Sumwun.3846

Enjoy Coca Cola. WvW more. On Gunnars Hold. In Nikes.

Nikes, in a war zone? Gunnars Hold obviously knows nothing about foot ware. I bet you all have Velcro ties on those Nikes.

Fight for Devona’s Rest, home of the extra medium buffalo Yak wrap. Transfer now and save a fee, win a free T-Shirt, and get a two way radio to communicate to your new friends without having to worry about a provider. .. And we don’t wear basketball shoes when killing people.

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Posted by: Haldunius.7864

Haldunius.7864

Yeh its dreadful. You’ll never see Gunnar’s Hold selling out like that. One moment, getting a drink.

Ah, WvW with Gunnars Hold sponsored by Coca Cola.

Enjoy Coca Cola. WvW more. On Gunnars Hold. In Nikes.

Haha – you have my lols.

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and pull all those guys down cuz they’ll die.”

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Posted by: Jedahs.2713

Jedahs.2713

Yes I am absolutely appalled by any recruitment thread which does not belong to my own server!

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Posted by: SteepledHat.1345

SteepledHat.1345

All of GW2’s PvP modes involve zerging and outright outnumbering your way to victory. Why does this surprise anyone? Skillful fights can only be found in those small scale battles 1v1/2v2. Anymore than that and you have the ability to quickly kill one of the opposing side to make your numbers advantage.

“Failure to remain calm is the sign of a weak mind.”

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Posted by: Israel.7056

Israel.7056

I have found these sorts of people in every game I’ve ever played. It’s unfortunate but it just seems to be part of human nature manifesting itself in a virtual world.

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Posted by: Wotah.2975

Wotah.2975

Strike Force come to JQ, kill SoS, be happy. =)

I agree with this! I would love to have SF here.

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Posted by: Magiofdeath.2745

Magiofdeath.2745

Yeh its dreadful. You’ll never see Gunnar’s Hold selling out like that. One moment, getting a drink.

Ah, WvW with Gunnars Hold sponsored by Coca Cola.

Enjoy Coca Cola. WvW more. On Gunnars Hold. In Nikes.

Best recruitment post thus far.

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Posted by: Sweetiepie.9270

Sweetiepie.9270

You see all these nice posts about “close community”, “great place to be”, “join us in our efforts”. Tons of sugarcoating for a simple message:

“We win in WvW by outnumbering the opponent. Join us so our advantage gets even bigger.”

SoS is recruiting. Really? The No1 server that has won all matchups in the last 2 months bar one (and usually without much trouble). What are you trying to achieve? Build HoD 2.0? We already had a completely broken T1 competition before, it was fun for neither side.

Kaineng recruiting while they 600+ curbstomp their opponents? Really? Are those doors too vicious for you to handle? Need more help with them?

Now, it would be bearable if people were actually honest and straight out admitted that they are in for the win, and will do whatever it takes (fun side note: The servers that get bandwagooned to by people who value the win most, also have the highest numbers of hackers on their sides. Remember BG when they first went up to T1 …).

However, all the sugary “community” sales pitch sounds exactly like that: The attempt by some win-hungry players to dress their selfishness into words that will attract others to ensure their own easy victory without having to fight.

I hope you all get what you deserve: Months and months of unbalanced and boring WvW.

You say “…all the recruitment threads” but then focus on SoS? So you are just appalled by SoS recruiting, or am I reading this wrong?

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Posted by: Magiofdeath.2745

Magiofdeath.2745

In his defense Sweetiepie, he also mentioned Kaineng, right after the SoS paragraph…

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Posted by: Sweetiepie.9270

Sweetiepie.9270

In his defense Sweetiepie, he also mentioned Kaineng, right after the SoS paragraph…

And yet again I am put in my place by a member of JQ. I kid. I just realize in WvW my experience usually is, “Oh look a JQ player…” “return to waypoint?”

/sigh

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Posted by: styx.7294

styx.7294

Ah, excellent, now we have a thread where people have come to advertise their servers. Now we don’t need every server making their own thread.

Gates of Madness: I mean, the name is cool. You want a cool server name, right?

Gate of Madness

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Posted by: Sweetiepie.9270

Sweetiepie.9270

Ah, excellent, now we have a thread where people have come to advertise their servers. Now we don’t need every server making their own thread.

Gates of Madness: I mean, the name is cool. You want a cool server name, right?

Sea of Sorrows is better.

Gates of Madness makes me think of maniacal clowns throwing acid pies. Sea of Sorrows just makes me think of sad puppies. Look at the sad puppy dog eyes…go ahead, I dare you.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a_RKnA-5nsI/TLfS8BzbEmI/AAAAAAAAAsI/RQBWDCr-iM8/s1600/sad-puppy.jpg

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Posted by: Magiofdeath.2745

Magiofdeath.2745

Jade Quarry has Kanaxi and Urgoz.

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Posted by: Ubi.4136

Ubi.4136

Until they open a server named “Secret Lair of the Snowmen”, I will be forever TC.
We still have openings…right?

lolololol

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Posted by: EnRohbi.2187

EnRohbi.2187

I was thinking about making my own thread this morning, actually, that was pretty much exactly this.
The server recruiting is getting stupid, I hope it slows down with paid transfers.

Some of the threads I’ve read recruiting for servers (I’m not gonna name anyone specifically, or any servers) were so full of arrogance and dripping with self gratification that they were far more offputting than attractive.

People don’t realize it just takes one kitten on the forums to make your whole server look like jerks.

Conversely, some server recruiting threads have been pretty respectful and well written. But I think we’re past the time, with paid transfers announced, where you can recruit for your server without looking like you’re just grabbing at bandwagoners for easy wins.

I, for one, only try to advocate for transferring to Dragonbrand when people PM me privately to ask questions because they’re already thinking about it.

Dragonbrand

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Posted by: TeamBattleAxe.3901

TeamBattleAxe.3901

Sea of Sorrows is better.

Gates of Madness makes me think of maniacal clowns throwing acid pies. Sea of Sorrows just makes me think of sad puppies. Look at the sad puppy dog eyes…go ahead, I dare you.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a_RKnA-5nsI/TLfS8BzbEmI/AAAAAAAAAsI/RQBWDCr-iM8/s1600/sad-puppy.jpg

“Join Sea of Sorrows, the only server that’s so emo that the grass cuts itself”

:D

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Posted by: Ubi.4136

Ubi.4136

Sea of Sorrows is better.

Gates of Madness makes me think of maniacal clowns throwing acid pies. Sea of Sorrows just makes me think of sad puppies. Look at the sad puppy dog eyes…go ahead, I dare you.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a_RKnA-5nsI/TLfS8BzbEmI/AAAAAAAAAsI/RQBWDCr-iM8/s1600/sad-puppy.jpg

“Join Sea of Sorrows, the only server that’s so emo that the grass cuts itself”

:D

Ok, I laughed.

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Te Nosce [TC]

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Posted by: Magiofdeath.2745

Magiofdeath.2745

Sea of Sorrows is better.

Gates of Madness makes me think of maniacal clowns throwing acid pies. Sea of Sorrows just makes me think of sad puppies. Look at the sad puppy dog eyes…go ahead, I dare you.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a_RKnA-5nsI/TLfS8BzbEmI/AAAAAAAAAsI/RQBWDCr-iM8/s1600/sad-puppy.jpg

“Join Sea of Sorrows, the only server that’s so emo that the grass cuts itself”

:D

Lol, I’ve thought the same thing in a way – “what a emo server name”. SoS theme song? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVTXPUF4Oz4

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Posted by: Ubi.4136

Ubi.4136

This is where I will plug my new server name if/when server merges happen.

Come on A-net, who wouldn’t move to a server named Secret Lair of the Snowmen?

Lost in the Maguuma [TC]
Te Nosce [TC]

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Posted by: Sweetiepie.9270

Sweetiepie.9270

This is where I will plug my new server name if/when server merges happen.

Come on A-net, who wouldn’t move to a server named Secret Lair of the Snowmen?

I would only go if they promise there is no yellow associated with this server.

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Posted by: Krakah.3582

Krakah.3582

I hope you all get what you deserve: Months and months of unbalanced and boring WvW.

You may have overlooked the root problem of total PvP population, with attrition. There’s only enough for maybe 4-6 servers for this type of play format.

So with that in mind it’s perfectly proper for every server even if they are #1 to continue to recruit.

On another note since the participation is low relative to the PvE population and attrition level is high, the current format is not sustainable in the long run.

-KNT- BG

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Posted by: crystalpink.2487

crystalpink.2487

Yeh its dreadful. You’ll never see Gunnar’s Hold selling out like that. One moment, getting a drink.

Ah, WvW with Gunnars Hold sponsored by Coca Cola.

Enjoy Coca Cola. WvW more. On Gunnars Hold. In Nikes.

^ This advertisement is priceless xDDD

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Posted by: Slamz.5376

Slamz.5376

Kaineng recruiting while they 600+ curbstomp their opponents? Really? Are those doors too vicious for you to handle? Need more help with them?

I lol’d.

I agree that recruitment posts are universally silly.

Each matchup is a 3-way. Odds are your server is going to lose 2 matches out of every 3. Running to the forums every time your sever placed 2nd or 3rd is silly and mostly just means you’ll destabilize your server and roflstomp a week or two before getting your next inevitable beatdown, at which time all the grass-is-greener types who joined you will now go somewhere else.

And is upper tier combat BETTER? How so? Even bigger zergs? Even more queues? Even more culling issues?

Maguuma has the right idea. Anti-recruiting. Stop the population flux. Settle in and enjoy the fight.

Have I mentioned what a terrible server Ehmry Bay is? It’s full of cannibals and awful people who are very mean all the time for no reason. We call it “Bully Bay”, but we only bully ourselves and we always /spit on newcomers. Not in game. In real life. We only build rams for siege and we never put them on doors and we play nothing except staff guardians and “fist/fist” thieves. It’s just awful.

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Posted by: Adaneshade.2409

Adaneshade.2409

Everyone wants to win =/

Some servers are just trying to plug outright gaping coverage gaps, others want to stomp more because they realized stomping is more fun than being stomped. Can’t really blame any of them.

Wrong, some of us actually prefer low tier matchups. Less zergy more individual player skill.

~Shadowkat

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Posted by: styx.7294

styx.7294

Ah, excellent, now we have a thread where people have come to advertise their servers. Now we don’t need every server making their own thread.

Gates of Madness: I mean, the name is cool. You want a cool server name, right?

Sea of Sorrows is better.

Gates of Madness makes me think of maniacal clowns throwing acid pies. Sea of Sorrows just makes me think of sad puppies. Look at the sad puppy dog eyes…go ahead, I dare you.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a_RKnA-5nsI/TLfS8BzbEmI/AAAAAAAAAsI/RQBWDCr-iM8/s1600/sad-puppy.jpg

Yeah, but when people ask us “u mad?” we get to make this face.

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001759305/3534714767_seriously_xlarge.png

Gate of Madness

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Posted by: Magiofdeath.2745

Magiofdeath.2745

I’m surprised noone has done a old spice parody for server recruitment. Someone should do one.

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

Jayne.9251

This is where I will plug my new server name if/when server merges happen.

Come on A-net, who wouldn’t move to a server named Secret Lair of the Snowmen?

I prefer Fluffy Bunnies of Doom server, but that’s just me.

L’enfer, c’est les autres

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Posted by: Magiofdeath.2745

Magiofdeath.2745

There needs to be a server named “Rurik”. The zergs there would blindly run into their own deaths.

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Posted by: crystalpink.2487

crystalpink.2487

This is where I will plug my new server name if/when server merges happen.

Come on A-net, who wouldn’t move to a server named Secret Lair of the Snowmen?

I prefer Fluffy Bunnies of Doom server, but that’s just me.

I’d definitely join that Fluffy Bunnies of Doom server if there’s one.
Any server with bunny or kitty in its name, I’d join without hesitation. \o/

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Posted by: Czar Peter.7961

Czar Peter.7961

I sympathize. Recruiting from other servers is a zero sum game that comes at their expense. I’d place the fault on ANet rather than the recruiters though for designing WvW to be a numbers game. We’re not going to play sub-optimally just because some people don’t like it.

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

Jayne.9251

There needs to be a server named “Rurik”. The zergs there would blindly run into their own deaths.

Isn’t that what normally happens on most servers anyhow?

L’enfer, c’est les autres

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Posted by: Hubris.7039

Hubris.7039

You see all these nice posts about “close community”, “great place to be”, “join us in our efforts”. Tons of sugarcoating for a simple message:

“We win in WvW by outnumbering the opponent. Join us so our advantage gets even bigger.”
……

Now, it would be bearable if people were actually honest and straight out admitted that they are in for the win, and will do whatever it takes

Not everybody is in it strictly for the win. We’re looking to have fun. While winning is fun, so is camaraderie and finding a group of people that you like to share your hobby.


However, all the sugary “community” sales pitch sounds exactly like that: The attempt by some win-hungry players to dress their selfishness into words that will attract others to ensure their own easy victory without having to fight.

It is a combination. Everybody wants to win. Otherwise, why would they play? But if you can’t win every time , at least you can have fun doing it.

Also, I think most of us know that numbers do not always mean victory. However, attracting as wide a player base as possible makes for more diversity. That diversity means that our commanders don’t have to be up all night fighting off Oceanic servers. Being able to grab a full night of sleep during flu season is not being “win-hungry”, it’s just smart leadership, and a good long-term strategy.

[shameless plug]
That said, visit http://www.yaksbend.com if you’re considering looking for a great community to join before the paid transfers kick in.
[/shameless plug]

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Posted by: Dee Jay.2460

Dee Jay.2460

Everyone wants overseas players because battles may be fought at day, but the game is won at night.

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Vi Au.8341

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Posted by: Merendel.7128

Merendel.7128

Considering the doors to widespread recruiting will be closeing in a week and a half its not unexpected. Yes some servers may not NEED more right now but haveing a buffer for the future cant hurt and it will be much harder to recruit later on when your looking at 20 bucks or 30 gold a head for transfers to high pop servers. Its a situation of “If we dont recruit then someone else will” and recruits going anywhere else is only more power in the hands of potential enemies. Who wouldn’t recruit in that situation? Show me that man and I’ll show you someone on the loosing team.

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Posted by: Nuzt.7894

Nuzt.7894

Its to be expected.

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Posted by: Waffler.1257

Waffler.1257

Until they open a server named “Secret Lair of the Snowmen”, I will be forever TC.
We still have openings…right?

lolololol

I wish there was a “Dunes of Despair” server, Crystal Desert was always my favorite place in GW1, and that mission name just sounds so kitten.

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Posted by: Roo Stercogburn.9671

Roo Stercogburn.9671

Just call a new server, “The Winning Server” and fairweather guilds from all tiers will go there, leaving the rest of us to get on with good fights

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