Guild Wars 2

ColinJohanson.2394:

Ascended items and infusions both will cost a less than normal amount of laurels, and a badge cost as well. (Ascended accessories will remain laurels + ecto, but with new WvW rank reward chests you’re going to be getting a lot more Ecto!)

So we’re two weeks in since the patch that added rank reward chests, and I was curious about people’s experiences thus far.

Personally, I’ve opened 25 chests since the patch, and have gotten 24 greens and 1 yellow, which salvaged into 2 Ecto. Not counting the coin from chests and vendoring the greens, at a cost of 50 Ecto and at my personal Ecto rate thus far, I’ll have enough Ecto to purchase 1 Ascended Ring in 12.5 months.

Now, I’m a moderate player, logging around 15-20 hours in WvW per week in mostly large group play (zerg if you want to call it that), so I realize this plays a part, but even if I doubled my playtime I’d be looking at 6 months. Tripled? 3 months. Maybe I’ve just had a bad streak on the RNG?

For the record, I’m not bringing this up to whine or look a gift horse in the mouth. I think it was great on Anet’s part to add them. I also realize that there are many other ways to acquire Ecto, ways that I will most definitely use. But I can’t help but refer to the above post from Colin and wonder what the heck he was talking about, because so far, my experience has been a far off shot from “a lot more Ecto”.

No, I am not really. I do like the reward chests at least, it was a good start.

Around 30 chests so far and one rare, all the rest masterworks. Got a few golem blueprints though, that’s pretty nice.

Heard a couple people get ascended rings (random stats) and a few exotics, but mostly just masterwork stuffs.

Liquid.9672:

ColinJohanson.2394:

Ascended items and infusions both will cost a less than normal amount of laurels, and a badge cost as well. (Ascended accessories will remain laurels + ecto, but with new WvW rank reward chests you’re going to be getting a lot more Ecto!)

So we’re two weeks in since the patch that added rank reward chests, and I was curious about people’s experiences thus far.

Personally, I’ve opened 25 chests since the patch, and have gotten 24 greens and 1 yellow, which salvaged into 2 Ecto. Not counting the coin from chests and vendoring the greens, at a cost of 50 Ecto and at my personal Ecto rate thus far, I’ll have enough Ecto to purchase 1 Ascended Ring in 12.5 months.

Now, I’m a moderate player, logging around 15-20 hours in WvW per week in mostly large group play (zerg if you want to call it that), so I realize this plays a part, but even if I doubled my playtime I’d be looking at 6 months. Tripled? 3 months. Maybe I’ve just had a bad streak on the RNG?

For the record, I’m not bringing this up to whine or look a gift horse in the mouth. I think it was great on Anet’s part to add them. I also realize that there are many other ways to acquire Ecto, ways that I will most definitely use. But I can’t help but refer to the above post from Colin and wonder what the heck he was talking about, because so far, my experience has been a far off shot from “a lot more Ecto”.

I think “a lot more Ecto” is suppose to be in the chest and not a salvage byproduct. Only the first would qualify for new content while latter it’s just old news. Haven’t got or heard about anyone getting Ecto from chests so far. I think there is something wrong, either the ratio is too low to be perceived as a lot more or it didn’t add whatsoever to the new content.

If Ectos were to be a drop per chest, I’ve yet to hear anyone on the server getting them or see any drops from the chests.

I’ve opened about 30 chests since patch and gotten 2 yellows. First one netted 2 ectos, second got none. Everything else has been green.

I’ve opened around 85 chests. I have had around 8 yellows. The drop rate seems to be around 10% for a rare. For the time it takes to get a level in WvW, this is nothing great. The siege sure is handy though, don’t have to do the JP anymore.

I’ve opened one hundred chests:

2 Ascended Rings (I could actually use on my alt army; lucky me)
5 Yellows
3 Golems
10~ Trebs
The rest mixed greens/blues and low end siege gear alongside the slowly growing 12-16 silver rewards.

It is a start, but it will hardly put us anywhere near 1/10th the “value” pve’ers get in their loot drops.

Urrid.4593:

I’ve opened one hundred chests:

2 Ascended Rings (I could actually use on my alt army; lucky me)
5 Yellows
3 Golems
10~ Trebs
The rest mixed greens/blues and low end siege gear alongside the slowly growing 12-16 silver rewards.

It is a start, but it will hardly put us anywhere near 1/10th the “value” pve’ers get in their loot drops.

Was there any trend with the ascended? Like was it when you made rank 100 or just random? I have an ascended ring with the wrong stats I need to replace and some infusions and trinkets would be awesome.

This is WvW….
What’s ecto?
What’s “rare” mean?

Our reward is still completely crap. if you only did WvW you wouldn’t even be able to afford upgrading towers with the poor excuse of loot you earn. I’m kill players, not AI. Actual living people are trying to kill me back and yet when I’m victorious I’m rewarded with kittentastic loot I could get from killing a lvl 5 foe in Queensdale on my lvl 80?
Thanks. Thanks a lot.

What I don’t understand is why PVE gets benefits from WvW (gathering bonus, etc), gets tons of skins and makes constant surplus money as they play. WvW players tend to lose money or stay even (aka 1.5g to build fortified walls on a keep or 1g for a golem) and most say we should be happy that we got something additional with these chests.

Dragon coffer drop rates are also tons better in PvE.

Ecto? My drop rates are about the same. 40ish chests, 2 rares, 2 sup plans...

I’ve opened around 25 chests as well and got 2 yellows and the rest greens. Didn’t salvage them, just sold them. I find with my luck, it’s better for me to sell and just buy the ectos later.

0 ascended, 0 exotic, 3 rare, 0 superior siege.

So, no.

If you totaled up the value of everything in each chest you do indeed get alot more ectos. You get 15+ silver, siege, badges, and greens or better. Each chest is literally worth at least 1 ecto, in some lucky cases multiple ectos.

Considering our ecto buying ability from WvW before was pretty close to zero, this does indeed = alot more ectos.
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I’ll let you go back to ignoring the value of half the contents of each chest now.

92 chests, 1 rare, 1 sup bali … :x

Idc to ‘translate’ contents/value into ecto’s. Yes, loot has improved, but PvE’rs can farm easily a dozen rares in under 2 hours by doing dungeons and dragons. I don’t even get half that number in a week of active wvw.

Ralathar.7236:

If you totaled up the value of everything in each chest you do indeed get alot more ectos. You get 15+ silver, siege, badges, and greens or better. Each chest is literally worth at least 1 ecto, in some lucky cases multiple ectos.

For the average player or for those on lower tiers, one rank per day is not unusual, which may take them 3-4 hours to get. On average they will then receive 15 silver, a green worth 2 silver, 5 badges worth nothing and a piece of siege (most won’t use it, or will throw it down when your attacking a gate on op of the ram that you actually need to build- certainly won’t donate to the commander). So maybe half an ecto per chest, once a day, from which you need to subtract the repair bills (lower tiers get less loot too, as there are less large battles).

After taking into account cost of foods, etc you lose money in wvw- especially as Anet seem to want to keep the price of superior sharpening stones etc artifically high, unless you are on a server that wins a lot of group battles so that you get piles of loot.

Yeah, not even remotely – out of 35 chests opened since they were introduced, I’ve had a grand total of 2 rares and 1 named exotic (which I passed along to an alt so no ectos there); all the rest of the gear has been greens. All sorts of siege blueprints and badges of course, and I’m certainly not complaining, but the notion that we’d see a lot more ecto because world rank chests were added? Laughable in the extreme.

I got sieges blueptrints and greens. I can’t use ascended stuff because there’s no attribute combination that benefits me, but some ectos would’ve been nice to cover the upgrade costs…

I actually got 1 exotic, and 1 Zap precursor from the chests….everything else has been greens though. I did stare at Zap in my inventory for quite awhile wondering if it actually happened lmao.

I’ll let Miley handle this one.

Personal experience in 48 chests —> 3 rares, one superior ram, 4 alpha golems, and an average silver gain of 13 or so. The other siege has been a nice supplement.

All in all the money covers decent food buffs, repairs and maybe a ram or arrow cart.

think i’m somewhere around 40 now, got about (don’t keep close tabs on this):

1 superior ram
2-3 alpha golems
0 ascended / precursors
4-5 rares
lots of regular siege & blue/greens

Well it seems others are having similar experiences to mine, which I expected to be the case, but it’s still a bit disappointing. My goal in bringing this up was not to discount the other rewards in the chests, but to highlight the reality that Colin’s comment about Ectos, used specifically to discount the fact that Rings would not be available via a discount+Badges, was either stated poorly or flat out incorrect or misinformed.

I guess it’s a reminder that as a general rule, it’s better to under promise and over deliver rather than the other way around.

The rewards in the chest such as silver, badges and siege are very welcome…

But to keep the promise of ‘lots of ecto’s’, they should change it to a minium of a rare or just give +1 ecto each and every chest or reduce the cost of the ascended items that cost ecto’s…

Otherwise, they kinda got our hopes up and let us down…

Hey they didn’t spit in our eyes! Its improvement! Yay!!!!!!

Love the seige in those chests, but “A lot more ectos” is not even close to being true.

I like the rewards, but definitely not seeing the Ecto’s. Every 7-8 chests I might see a rare. I did get a supply trap instead of a weapon/armor piece today. It’s not like I have a million karma and 100+ jugs.

I’ve opened about 40 chests since those rewards went out and I’m still at a 50% rate for rares. I’m still chewing through my backlogged reward chests, but for every level I gain, one chest contains a rare and the other contains a masterwork.

Then again, I also got my Zap after 30g of rares into the Mystic Toilet, so the eternal speculation over a hidden Luck stat may yet continue.

Know 3 people who got ascended and atleast 10 who got exotics out of them.
Rares seem to be fairly commen. I am happy.

Mega Myth.5307:

WvW players tend to lose money or stay even (aka 1.5g to build fortified walls on a keep or 1g for a golem)

You still buy siege? You must not WvW much cuz you don’t have badges…

Player Character.9467:

Mega Myth.5307:

WvW players tend to lose money or stay even (aka 1.5g to build fortified walls on a keep or 1g for a golem)

You still buy siege? You must not WvW much cuz you don’t have badges…

Money gain in the raid tonight in my guild, all cost already substracted.

1st place: 32g
2nd: 27g
3rd: 22g
4th: 20g

I was late to the party, so I clocked only 10.5g. But yea, you DO earn money in WvW.

70 chests – 4 or 5 rares rest greens

I count myself lucky. After about 10 chests i have gotten a 2 rares and 1 exotic. They were all awefull, the exotic was a lv79 Spear (why? im level 80 kitten …) But overall, pretty lucky.

But its abundantly clear that this is not the norm, not even close. And the guy that said “you get the value of an ecto from the box!”. No, not really. I didnt really pay much attention to how much silver i got from the chest, but yesterdays two boxes netted me 9silver and 13silver. Along with the trash-green thats not even a single ecto.

MiLkZz.4789:

Money gain in the raid tonight in my guild, all cost already substracted.

1st place: 32g
2nd: 27g
3rd: 22g
4th: 20g

I was late to the party, so I clocked only 10.5g. But yea, you DO earn money in WvW.

You’re telling us that you’re guild had 4 people make more then 20g in 1 night of WvW? Either you are mistaking gold for silver, or you are taking us for fools.

He must have been TP flipping whilst playing in Wvw :p

40 chests → 2 rares → 0 ecto

You can pull 1-2g/hour when it’s really busy, but you would have to play all night during the peak of reset to make 20g in one evening.

I actually got an exotic in my rank chest yesterday. It was worth 22s on the TP and gave me 2 orichalcum when salvaged. Woo…

That was some kitten exotic!

Terrahero.9358:

I count myself lucky. After about 10 chests i have gotten a 2 rares and 1 exotic. They were all awefull, the exotic was a lv79 Spear (why? im level 80 kitten …) But overall, pretty lucky.

But its abundantly clear that this is not the norm, not even close. And the guy that said “you get the value of an ecto from the box!”. No, not really. I didnt really pay much attention to how much silver i got from the chest, but yesterdays two boxes netted me 9silver and 13silver. Along with the trash-green thats not even a single ecto.

MiLkZz.4789:

Money gain in the raid tonight in my guild, all cost already substracted.

1st place: 32g
2nd: 27g
3rd: 22g
4th: 20g

I was late to the party, so I clocked only 10.5g. But yea, you DO earn money in WvW.

You’re telling us that you’re guild had 4 people make more then 20g in 1 night of WvW? Either you are mistaking gold for silver, or you are taking us for fools.

No, the first 2 kittens got the wings drop ^^ (16g I think). But we killed +-1000 people that night and those new chest sell for 3.5silver add some rares and yea, you earn A LOT.

Those chests are just an anomaly, gone before you know it. If we factor that into making gold, then the gold earnings in PvE spearhead even further out of range. But yah, you’re right, those boxes do make me money aswell.
And its refreshing to finally see some gold in my TP tab after a night of WvW. Instead of just silver.

But again, this wont last.

Picking up the bonus chest for levelling WXP ranks is just about keeping me afloat. I haven’t had to go farming in Orr for a couple of weeks.

Sadly, I’ve only got a few more ‘double chest’ ranks left. Then I’ll have to go back to farming (or begging on the streets like Wellington’s soldiers did after the wars).
Pretty realistic this game isn’t it?

I’ve gotten 1 rare out of 30 chests. Ectos are still at SB gais.

About 100 chests… 1 exotic. around 10 rares, rest masterwork

You could take all those greens and put them in the mystic toilet to get ectos.

Ynot.8397:

You could take all those greens and put them in the mystic toilet to get ectos.

I know you’re being sarcastic, but for others:

4 ranks
4 greens
20% chance at a rare from the toilet
~80% chance at an ecto with master salvage kit

25 ranks per ecto

It will be a tiny bit better if you throw your 4 out of 5 greens back into the toilet.

Realistically, you’re not going to carry around greens taking up inventory space for hours while waiting to mystic toilet them.

So far I got 3 chars close to rank 40 and some around rank 10 – 15, along with some rank 3 toons I deleted. The silver I get from rank chest seems to be far too random, sometimes I got 19 silver vs sometimes I got like 8, on the rares side I got like 6 rares out of over 100 chests.

However, I been getting far more rares from random drops, specially from none WvW oriented mobs in the WvW maps. Example the mosquitos you sometime kill while passing by in Eb have drop me about 2 chest with a rare inside. Same goes to kraits while trying to get the frogs to your side and a a few more from Tower’s guardians.