Getting back into WvW to grind out some badges and discovered the Proof of Heroics. So if I understand this right we now have another WvW exclusive currency on top of Badges, Memories of Battle (more like a crafting component – I know), and Claim Tickets (last seen 2014 btw). This is on top of gold and karma which can both be spent at WvW vendors too. That’s 6 currencies for a pretty small selection of stuff you can buy. I understand the place of Badges as the main WvW currency and Claim Tickets for Tournaments (last seen 2014 btw). I can kind of see the role of Memories of Battle for crafting.
However it seems to me that Proof of Heroics is really not that necessary and their role could easily be covered by lots of Badges. PoH drop often, I already have multiple stacks. I see their usefulness for blueprints and mastery points, but again, why not just spend badges for them instead, do we really need this separate currency?
Can somebody explain to me why we need this as an additional currency? Why not buy the mastery points and/or superior blueprints with badges or even craft them with Memories of Battle? If PoH are needed would it make more sense to add more stuff you could buy with them?
Did I mention there hasn’t been a tournament since 2014? (C’mon Anet! Hint-Hint-Nudge-Nudge-Wink-Wink)I have a weapon collection I’d like to keep working on!
Proof of heroics were added so that WvW players who wanted to complete their ELITE SPECS didn’t have to do to filthy PVE to do so.
Basically this, and they didn’t want to use badges or honor for the currency because veteran WvW players likely already had a bunch saved up, and that might have given them an edge over players that didn’t WvW much by allowing them to unlock Elite Specs as soon as HoT launched.
Edit: Also, apparently HoT recipes, sigils, and runes are going to be added to the heroics notary vendor in the next patch. Source here.
PoH drop often, I already have multiple stacks. I see their usefulness for blueprints and mastery points, but again, why not just spend badges for them instead, do we really need this separate currency?
So just add them to your wallet?
As for why they exist, they were added for unlocking elite specs but not merely that. They made a new currency partially so people sitting on 10k badges didn’t just insta max every elite spec.
Proof of heroics were added so that WvW players who wanted to complete their ELITE SPECS didn’t have to do to filthy PVE to do so.
Basically this, and they didn’t want to use badges or honor for the currency because veteran WvW players likely already had a bunch saved up, and that might have given them an edge over players that didn’t WvW much by allowing them to unlock Elite Specs as soon as HoT launched.
Edit: Also, apparently HoT recipes, sigils, and runes are going to be added to the heroics notary vendor in the next patch. Source here.
Well this makes much more sense now, thanks to both for clarifying. The mastery completion thing was obvious, but I didn’t think about the pacing part of it. Also, I know that they can be stored in the wallet (forgot about this part earlier), so that wasn’t my chief complaint. My point was the addition of another currency and if it was really necessary. Now I understand it’s place and see it’s necessity. However, assuming they follow the same model with the next xpac, would then that just add another currency for whatever mastery points they put there too? Is there a point of saturation, where there are too many different currencies?
Ascalonian Catacombs
Citadel of Flame
Twilight Arbor
Caudecus’ Manor
Sorrow’s Embrace
Honor of the Waves
Crucible of Eternity
City of Arah
Guild Commendations
Fractal Relic
Pristine Fractals
Geodes
Bandit Crest
Airship Parts
Aurillium
Ley-Line Crystals
Crystalline Ore
Proof of Heroics
Badges of Honor
WvW Tourney Tickets
…am i missing anything else? LOL
Maybe, but the list is also limited to the permanent currencies, and mostly account wallet ones. You’re missing all of the trophy items that behave as temporary (specific use) currencies, and the item drops that behave as commodities in lieu of currency (worst offenders: blue and green rarity trash items).
At it’s foundation it’s just an RPG problem. Itemization is an area in which ArenaNet has failed to innovate and has exemplified the problem.
Proof of Heroics is a redundant currency. So is Memory of Battle. They overlap unnecessarily with Badge of Honor. Their differences are forced in the design, not by necessity.
They needed a “new Currency” or everything HoT would have been trivialized. Imagine if we could spend the 10’s and 100’s of thousands of BoH’s veteran WvW players have? It would be Day one and done. That’s why they created a new currency.
Ascalonian Catacombs
Citadel of Flame
Twilight Arbor
Caudecus’ Manor
Sorrow’s Embrace
Honor of the Waves
Crucible of Eternity
City of Arah
Guild Commendations
Fractal Relic
Pristine Fractals
Geodes
Bandit Crest
Airship Parts
Aurillium
Ley-Line Crystals
Crystalline Ore
Proof of Heroics
Badges of Honor
WvW Tourney Tickets
…am i missing anything else? LOL
Maybe, but the list is also limited to the permanent currencies, and mostly account wallet ones. You’re missing all of the trophy items that behave as temporary (specific use) currencies, and the item drops that behave as commodities in lieu of currency (worst offenders: blue and green rarity trash items).
At it’s foundation it’s just an RPG problem. Itemization is an area in which ArenaNet has failed to innovate and has exemplified the problem.
Proof of Heroics is a redundant currency. So is Memory of Battle. They overlap unnecessarily with Badge of Honor. Their differences are forced in the design, not by necessity.
Globs of Ectoplasm for Tarrktun
There’s probably a ton more of these (I guess this is technically a “gobbler” type item just like Bloodstone Dust, Empyreal Star, and Dragonite Ore.)
And technically, there is a ton of Holiday/Special Event/Festival only currencies… like Candy Corn, Ugly Wool Junk, etc.
And don’t forget the money maker, Black Lion Claim Ticket and their 1/10th lesser version, scraps (an item of no value/account bound and bank slot waster until you get at least 10).
Just off the top of my head
Fun exercise, while we are complaining about another currency type, let’s look at types of bags/chests/boxes that you can attain while in WvW including all the new ones from the reward track lines. Go.
Ascalonian Catacombs
Citadel of Flame
Twilight Arbor
Caudecus’ Manor
Sorrow’s Embrace
Honor of the Waves
Crucible of Eternity
City of Arah
Guild Commendations
Fractal Relic
Pristine Fractals
Geodes
Bandit Crest
Airship Parts
Aurillium
Ley-Line Crystals
Crystalline Ore
Proof of Heroics
Badges of Honor
WvW Tourney Tickets
…am i missing anything else? LOL
PvP League Tickets
Black Lion Claim Tickets
Globs of Ectoplasm
Candy Corn/Candy Corn Cobs/Plastic Fangs/Nougat Centers/Chattering Skulls
Piece of Zhaitaffy
Fortune Scrap/Golden Fortune Scrap
Experience Points/Tomes of Knowledge/Writs of Experience (to get spirit shards)?
Fractal Research Pages?
Custom Arena Time Tokens?
but who’s counting?
ETA:
Forgot these
Favor
Aetherium
Magnetite Shards
Provisioner tokens
