After the roll out of the Bloodlust buff, I decided to voice my opposition to this idea by refusing to play WvW until it is removed. We all know World vs World isn’t meant to be balance and we’re not trying to seek perfect balance. But fairness is something we can all appreciate. When the strong has gotten stronger and the weak is weaker. The game isn’t no longer about competition but abuse. The buff might not affect the Tier 1 and Tier 2 servers which have almost equal amount of players competing. But the rest of the servers will just get thrashed, forcing WvW players to further consolidate on the top servers. World vs World is my favorite part of Guild Wars II and I hate to see the direction it’s moving toward. The joy of 1vX, 1v1, or GvG is now ruined. The type of gameplay which is as much a part of World vs World. Therefore, to try and reverse the course of this recent update, I refuse to play and hope others join me so our message will be heard loud and clear.
Are you going to still play WvW?
AYE ! no more WvW for me
Alternate suggestion: Hold your own BL’s buff and refuse to take enemy BL’s buff
A bit harder to organize but at least I can enjoy my wvw.
Apathy Inc [Ai]
its hard for me, cause im 99% WvW player but i will try Teq and increase my fractal lvl from 1
Alternate suggestion: Hold your own BL’s buff and refuse to take enemy BL’s buff
A bit harder to organize but at least I can enjoy my wvw.
So everyone has the buff, thats a novel idea but troll players will not comply.
+1
Stop playing WvW until this kitten stops.
I want them to remove the stats you get from WvW levels too, the ones at the very end of the trees.
True but with less players trying to take the buff the home server should be able to hold it, especially if organized groups/guilds do not attempt to take it on other maps.
Apathy Inc [Ai]
yeah stopping playing also untill removed
True but with less players trying to take the buff the home server should be able to hold it, especially if organized groups/guilds do not attempt to take it on other maps.
Well that is also true. The problem I see is that the smart guilds are going to entirely ignore this. If you are already outnumbered, well then why would you go and try and take the buff, making yourself free ppt in the process.
I reeallly want too. But this is BS, I’m a roamer except for in guild formups, usually fight way larger groups, and I don’t feel like fighting 3 on 8 with the 8 having +150 stats apiece.
Garbage at every profession 2015
I’m probably going to put my WvW play on hold for a while; not out of any kind of protest, but because I’m not finding it fun. Might come back in a week to see how the meta’s adjusted, but not getting my hopes up.
Yeah, I think I’ll hold off from WvW, esp with the new lag too from buffs being added/removed? Funny thing is, the PVE folks are complaining about the new Teq and other bosses so I think I’ll stick with dungeons for a while until Anet does a rollback on the new content.
Yep this is utterly stupid. Anet said that this stuff will “courage smaller dedicated groups to cap and hold these points” which sure as **** ain’t true. How would smaller group fight against 20-40 man zergs that sit on these points. This stuff doesn’t balance game or make it more tactical in any possible way.. Stronger server will be even stronger and annihilate the weaker server without a sweat, just run through and flip everything.
– Like we’re up against servers that can keep 10-15 players on each ruin guarding these points and still have 3xtimes bigger zerg than ours, + now they have 150 points buff. There is nothing we can do anymore. And that’s not all.. this new stuff makes everyone lag big time.
- I hate PvE in this game so much that ain’t even gonna go for it. I guess that I’ll go buy GTA5 and kill my time with it
I wonder if they count going to your borderland to use the crafting stations and respec as WvW activity in their metrics, lol.
Alternate suggestion: Hold your own BL’s buff and refuse to take enemy BL’s buff
A bit harder to organize but at least I can enjoy my wvw.
So everyone has the buff, thats a novel idea but troll players will not comply.
I really think this could work. Also, a much sweeter form of protest. Sort of an in your face dumb devs kind of thing.
Gaile Gray wrote:
Oh wait, read Martin Firestorm, he says it better…
Alternate suggestion: Hold your own BL’s buff and refuse to take enemy BL’s buff
A bit harder to organize but at least I can enjoy my wvw.
So everyone has the buff, thats a novel idea but troll players will not comply.
I really think this could work. Also, a much sweeter form of protest. Sort of an in your face dumb devs kind of thing.
Will not work.
Second Law [Scnd]
Alternate suggestion: Hold your own BL’s buff and refuse to take enemy BL’s buff
A bit harder to organize but at least I can enjoy my wvw.
So everyone has the buff, thats a novel idea but troll players will not comply.
I really think this could work. Also, a much sweeter form of protest. Sort of an in your face dumb devs kind of thing.
Will not work.
Yup. Impossible to control everyone.
Yup. Impossible to control everyone.
Don’t need to control everyone; just need to control enough people to ensure the objectives are met. So long as more people agree to the rule than not, it should be doable.
Alternate suggestion: Hold your own BL’s buff and refuse to take enemy BL’s buff
A bit harder to organize but at least I can enjoy my wvw.
So everyone has the buff, thats a novel idea but troll players will not comply.
I really think this could work. Also, a much sweeter form of protest. Sort of an in your face dumb devs kind of thing.
Will not work.
Yup. Impossible to control everyone.
Just need most to agree. As soon as an orb flips on your BL get it back. Or just swallow this disaster without even trying. That’s your choice.
Gaile Gray wrote:
Oh wait, read Martin Firestorm, he says it better…
Aw guys, you know you’ll have some bratty kid that will go to one of the bl’s and troll just because everyone else is saying “don’t do it” …
I’m all for the idea, believe me, but there’s so many, um, “personalities” in an MMO … you know what I’m saying….
That said, I read a post somewhere (it’s since been removed) by a certain Dev that said if the wvw population goes down drastically, they’ll revisit the bloodlust idea. Seems to me the short term answer is just to take a couple weeks/month off to give them the proper metrics/approval/disapproval rating.
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I’ve quit GW2 altogether months ago…
Alternate suggestion: Hold your own BL’s buff and refuse to take enemy BL’s buff
A bit harder to organize but at least I can enjoy my wvw.
So everyone has the buff, thats a novel idea but troll players will not comply.
I really think this could work. Also, a much sweeter form of protest. Sort of an in your face dumb devs kind of thing.
No it’s not “in your face” as they will view that as “success” – “See everybody it is balanced just fine as all Servers are holding their own”
Boycotting WvW and having the Devs see their participation numbers plummet is the ONLY way we will get this changed/removed.
Yes…no more WvW until it is fair! Please remove:
Bloodlust
Siege
Rallying off mobs
Food
Ascended gear
Wxp abilities (looking at you, applied fortitude)
Fights against greater numbers
Night capping
I will not play until all of these terribly unfair things are removed from wvw!
Make the bloodlust an outmanned buff instead but keep the changes to the center of the map. I will be happy. ;]
Maguuma’s Mutant Dragon Ninja Warriors super power omega force of doom.
Yes please boycott WvW and not play.
I’ll be the one in your bl taking your points, have a nice vacation.
By all means, go right ahead. I’ll be enjoying the fantastic new terrain we have to fight in.
Northern Shiverpeaks ~ [dO] Drop Otter
Alternate suggestion: Hold your own BL’s buff and refuse to take enemy BL’s buff
A bit harder to organize but at least I can enjoy my wvw.
That is a..silly..suggestions.
Quick, Anet! Hire the next Devon Carver!
Yes please boycott WvW and not play.
I’ll be the one in your bl taking your points, have a nice vacation.
ROFL.
Yes, keep chasing them points, then by next friday tell us how much you accomplished!
That’s great, shorter queue times!
Going to boycott now also.
Already people who sit and run with zergs all day have Guard leech and Applied Fortitude buffs which gives in total + 250 vitality and + 100 damage.
And now with these buffs the big zergs get another 150 to stats on top.
Really? +400 to vitality ????… (let alone the rest)
Small scale fights for people who enjoy that content are out. The whole reason I am in GW is for the immense fun our group has with that. Those stats are for lack of any cordial terms……kittened!
In fact…it is so absurd I keep checking and rechecking as I’m SURE I must have made a mistake.
Unbelievable.
I too will be on a WvW/GW2 Hiatus after this patch. As a player who has both WvW Buffs, Applied Fortitude & Guard Leech, and coming from a server who is currently decimating the opposition the buffs I have are too powerful.
Currently I Have:
+250 Power from Bloodlust stacks
+150 All stats from Bloodlust Buffs
+100 Power from Guard Leech
+100 Power and 10% Crit damage from food
+112 Power from Nourishment (toughness)
+ 55 Power from Nourishment (vitality)
+ 2500 Health from Applied Fortitude
Leaving me with +767 Power & +4000 Health.
Anet, While I admire your determination to sway me into playing sPvP I will never want sit on capture points. It’s not going to happen. I will NOT go to sPvP for balance either, which I feel is another ploy to increase sPvP numbers.
Maybe one day you will realize that in GW2, WvW is the end game and it always has been.
- Charr Warrior
- Charr Necromancer
They need to remove stacking sigils, food, and oil/crystals/stones too!
My moves are fresh, like my groceries.
#TeamEvonforever
I tried the new map setup earlier today and found it to be devoid of the fun factor…. probably will be taking a break for a while from most wvw…which is a shame since it is what has made me love the game….. the bloodlust side of the equation is also something of concern since it will drive the two lower scoring servers out of the BLs since the bloodlust buff will make their bad situation even worse…which means most of the smart ones will decide it is not worth their time to venture out there since not only will they be outnumbered but for most of their time they will likely be facing the negative end of the buff.
Done with WvW. Thinking about quiting now.
Guild Leader of [FTF] -Walnut-
The Bigger They Are, The Harder They Fall
Done with WvW. Thinking about quiting now.
^…Getting less interested in wvw aswell.Giving a stats increase bonus is a terrible idea.Even organized guilds like FIRE are just stopping and disbanding because of these changes.Anet…do you have any clue what you’re doing ? No ? YOURE KILLING WVW !
Goodbye to those that stop playing. Hopefully you are the pugs, uplevels, and undergeared.
Goodbye to those that stop playing. Hopefully you are the pugs, uplevels, and undergeared.
Full time wvwer and commander since the start of Guild wars.Try again
Btw,can’t you read ? An Organized guild like FIRE is disbanding because of these changes..let me tell you,these guys are not undergeared upleveld and they are certainly no pugs.
While I get the idea and feel the pain, I WvW in my spare time. I will continue to do so until something better comes along.
T.V. absolutely sucks. SO outside of spending time with my wife and daughter, WvW it is.
While I get the idea and feel the pain, I WvW in my spare time. I will continue to do so until something better comes along.
T.V. absolutely sucks. SO outside of spending time with my wife and daughter, WvW it is.
I’ve been playing the XCOM remake; it’s really fun.
Goodbye to those that stop playing. Hopefully you are the pugs, uplevels, and undergeared.
Full time wvwer and commander since the start of Guild wars.Try again
Btw,can’t you read ? An Organized guild like FIRE is disbanding because of these changes..let me tell you,these guys are not undergeared upleveld and they are certainly no pugs.
Sounds like a poor guild leader if he is going to rage disband a guild that so many people have put effort into building.
What am I supposed to feel bad because some people are quitting. I say get out. The queues will be smaller.
Goodbye to those that stop playing. Hopefully you are the pugs, uplevels, and undergeared.
Full time wvwer and commander since the start of Guild wars.Try again
Btw,can’t you read ? An Organized guild like FIRE is disbanding because of these changes..let me tell you,these guys are not undergeared upleveld and they are certainly no pugs.
Sounds like a poor guild leader if he is going to rage disband a guild that so many people have put effort into building.
Why keep playing something that in your opinion is going down the drain ? People dont like the changes anet is making,and they are not the only ones thinking so..for that see the other dozens of threads about these changes where people are voicing their opinions.
Also did i ask you to feel bad for anyone ?
Goodbye to those that stop playing. Hopefully you are the pugs, uplevels, and undergeared.
Fool, those are precisely the people who are ok with this.
Gaile Gray wrote:
Oh wait, read Martin Firestorm, he says it better…
Most ridiculous thread ever.
What should Anet do? Reward losers and people who fail instead?
It’s pretty well balanced as I see it, even a single person can cap an area.
Anets incompetence strikes again.
I remember the good old days of Wintergrasp, where Horde heavily outmanned Alliance on our dead server & ActiBlizz gave the outmanned players the buff, giving them a standing chance whereas they`d of just been white washed before the buffs.
But oh noes, anet decides let the heavily over populated servers have yet another helping hand via a huge buff to kitten over the other servers even more.
Wow, just wow.
Can`t say I`m remotely surprised though.
We all said/warned before release this`d happen, but they happily ignored the obvious, as per usual….
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Top-right-GO-away/first#post2096524
Rocking Wizard Wars until this mess of a game is fixed…
Most ridiculous thread ever.
What should Anet do? Reward losers and people who fail instead?
It’s pretty well balanced as I see it, even a single person can cap an area.
How about do nothing? You were already playing, everyone else here was too. This change is not needed for wvw, and tanks gvg.
Gaile Gray wrote:
Oh wait, read Martin Firestorm, he says it better…
They need to remove stacking sigils, food, and oil/crystals/stones too!
actually that’s not a problem because everyone has access to them and is a great way to create more builds.
the problem here is a buff that only 1 server can get at a time making it more powerfull
They need to remove stacking sigils, food, and oil/crystals/stones too!
actually that’s not a problem because everyone has access to them and is a great way to create more builds.
the problem here is a buff that only 1 server can get at a time making it more powerfull
Everyone has access to the buff, go cap the nodes.
My moves are fresh, like my groceries.
#TeamEvonforever
Goodbye to those that stop playing. Hopefully you are the pugs, uplevels, and undergeared.
Full time wvwer and commander since the start of Guild wars.Try again
Btw,can’t you read ? An Organized guild like FIRE is disbanding because of these changes..let me tell you,these guys are not undergeared upleveld and they are certainly no pugs.
Sounds like a poor guild leader if he is going to rage disband a guild that so many people have put effort into building.
Why keep playing something that in your opinion is going down the drain ? People dont like the changes anet is making,and they are not the only ones thinking so..for that see the other dozens of threads about these changes where people are voicing their opinions.
Also did i ask you to feel bad for anyone ?
I would ask if anyone wanted to take over the guild. I wouldn’t rage disband it. Doing that shows a total lack of respect for the people that have helped build it.
As far as playing it goes, the change came out like 6 hours ago. No one has had enough time to play it enough to decide they don’t like it. Surely not even 30% of the massive membership of FIRE has logged in yet and played WvW. So basically, he is disbanding a guild because he is mad.
Guilds like FIRE are people who are good at pvp. I know its hard for you pve types to understand, but players like us don’t want power creep and un fair fights. I liked roaming and small fights a lot because it was (mostly) a test of skill and builds. Ascended and buffs crap all over it.
Enjoy your crutch to win on
Goodbye to those that stop playing. Hopefully you are the pugs, uplevels, and undergeared.
Full time wvwer and commander since the start of Guild wars.Try again
Btw,can’t you read ? An Organized guild like FIRE is disbanding because of these changes..let me tell you,these guys are not undergeared upleveld and they are certainly no pugs.
Sounds like a poor guild leader if he is going to rage disband a guild that so many people have put effort into building.
Why keep playing something that in your opinion is going down the drain ? People dont like the changes anet is making,and they are not the only ones thinking so..for that see the other dozens of threads about these changes where people are voicing their opinions.
Also did i ask you to feel bad for anyone ?
I would ask if anyone wanted to take over the guild. I wouldn’t rage disband it. Doing that shows a total lack of respect for the people that have helped build it.
As far as playing it goes, the change came out like 6 hours ago. No one has had enough time to play it enough to decide they don’t like it. Surely not even 30% of the massive membership of FIRE has logged in yet and played WvW. So basically, he is disbanding a guild because he is mad.
Guilds like FIRE are people who are good at pvp. I know its hard for you pve types to understand, but players like us don’t want power creep and un fair fights. I liked roaming and small fights a lot because it was (mostly) a test of skill and builds. Ascended and buffs crap all over it.
Enjoy your crutch to win on
Well, I won’t bother saying that I am not a PVE type and spend most of my time in WvW. I’ll just say disband your guild and get out. See ya.
The Whole WvWvW community across all servers should settle on an unwritten rule of not capping the orb ever and not playing the bloodlust area.