Guild Wars 2

Arrow carts set up on the level above the Stone Mists Lord makes it impossible to take this keep.

We tried taking Stone Mists with so many people that you couldn’t even render all of the players at once. By that I mean 2 large servers worth of people all in trying to take Stone Mists and the 1 faction with the ring of arrow carts above the lord held everyone off. This is not to mention the glitch where arrow carts shoot through the Lords floor and hit everyone on bottom. Arrow carts already scale so well in normal keeps (too well imo).

Be creative. Take them by suprise. Make use of utility skills like the Mesmer’s portal or AOE stealth by Thief or Combo.
It is a good thing that a zerg can be stopped.

Information is starting to trickle in on this, and some things are becoming clear.

If arrow carts from above the Keep Lord can rain down to the level below, AND if AoE from below can reach the Keep Lord above – this actually seems kind of fair. The Lord is standing on an open grate and it was designed that way on purpose.

However if you can only AoE from the bottom up, and arrow carts do not rain down through the gate, then that is probably an exploit, and in that case I agree it’s a pretty huge advantage to get to the Lord first.

In the last match between Henge of Denravi, Eredon Terrace, and Stormbluff Isle though, the Keep Lord managed to change hands a few times, so it’s not impossible.

You just need some organization. A squad of thieves can get through the spam and take out the arrow carts or distract them long enough for your team to run up to the third floor and slaughter everything.

You can also jump from the stairs to the side of the main entrance to eliminate the choke point.

We’ve had this issue before, and we would have chipped away the carts had the 3rd server not attacked us from behind and given them the opportunity to counter push.

It is possible, my guild (RMA) did it. And btw, we had the same problem with the rendering people thing…
also, it’s not a bug that the arrows go through the floor, if you take a good look you’ll note that the floor is a grate (im not sure the correct term, the floor is like those prison bar)

We had a mesmer sneak up to the top and set up a portal. We then zerged through the portal and decimated over a dozen arrowcarts.

Its not impossible.. use a mesmer or thief, area stealth rush up and kill them.

Or retaliation, arrow carts die way too easy to retaliation.

There are ways around the arrow cart fire as has already been mentioned. The fact that they require organization to get around is hardly a bad thing.

its plain stupid to be able to build seige weapons inside a room. they should not allow it it should be an outdoor only thing.

have 15 of them up there with 15 people and i guarantee you not 100 wont make it, even if all 100 ignore everything and try to rush up they will be slowed and die half way.

HoD rushes stonemist’s lord rooms regularly. No issues here.

If by unbreakable you mean can easily be rushed and killed by small groups constantly running up there, then yeah, I guess it is.

We do “arrow carts over the Lord room” all the time. Ballista too.

There are several options for defeating this:

• Go away and come back 2 hours later. The siege operators get bored and run off and the zerg is really slow to run back up there and re-man them, assuming they didn’t time out and go poof while unmanned.

• Group up on the ramp and apply mass swiftness. Everyone charge the ramp. As long as most people are charging the ramp (and not stopping to fight the Lord), you’ll easily overwhelm them.

• Group up on the ramp and apply mass retaliation. Swagger into the lord room and stand there. Pop pop pop goes the arrow carts because mass retaliation kills them literally in about 2 shots.

• Small stealth groups. It’s hard to stop dedicated thieves who want to run up the ramp.

• Stand in the wings. On the sides of the lord room there are covered areas. Arrow carts can fire into there but ballista can’t and the arrow cart operators who can fire in there have to do so blindly. Kill the lord with ranged attacks then run in and do hot-foot dances until it caps.

RustyEyeballs.8927:

Arrow carts set up on the level above the Stone Mists Lord makes it impossible to take this keep.

We tried taking Stone Mists with so many people that you couldn’t even render all of the players at once. By that I mean 2 large servers worth of people all in trying to take Stone Mists and the 1 faction with the ring of arrow carts above the lord held everyone off. This is not to mention the glitch where arrow carts shoot through the Lords floor and hit everyone on bottom. Arrow carts already scale so well in normal keeps (too well imo).

By chance, its not two french servers you are talking about?

Nah, it’s more than breakable if you know what you’re doing

This is a very important issue; Arrow Carts are so overpowered :/

Guy, This is 7 MONTHS OLD when the SM lord was on the 2nd floor; as you notice now he’s on bottom as the fix.

Set a catapult on the wall game over.