Guild Wars 2

I keep reading ankittenep getting back and forth answers on this particular question. Will we be able to get ascended gear by doing strictly WvW? I can’t really stand the end game PvE in GW2 and I would rather not have to touch it if I didn’t have to.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/linsey-murdock-unveils-new-high-end-ascended-gear/

The Future of Items Progression

This is just the beginning. In November, we’re only adding the first level of Infusions and Ascended Rings and Back slots, so that leaves us a lot of room to build upon these levels of Item progression in future content.
As we release more new end game content in the future, you’ll see more Infusions and Ascended item types being added to the game. Eventually, you’ll be able to kit yourself out with a full set of Ascended gear and high end Infusions to help give you the edge in end game content.
You’ll also see more Legendary items in the future and an update to our existing Legendary weapons. Legendary items were always intended to be on par with other “best-in-slot” items. So fear not, all existing Legendary weapons, which are currently on par with Exotics, will be upgraded to be on par with Ascended weapons at the same time that we add Ascended weapons to the game. Thus Legendaries will remain “best-in-slot” items. All Legendary items going forward will be of Ascended power. We also have plans to add more fun ways to acquire Legendary precursor items with a more “scavenger hunt” feel than they are acquired currently.
The new additions in November are just the start of our item progression initiative. We’re going to add tons of new high-level content to Guild Wars 2 in the future. As we introduce the new high-level content, we’ll also roll out complimentary Ascended and Legendary items (to say nothing of the other rewards you can earn by playing the content).
I hope you are all as excited about these new items as I am!

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/A-message-from-our-Studio-Design-Director-Chris-Whiteside

Our Studio Design Director Chris Whiteside just posted this:
“I’d like to respond to concerns players have raised about ascended items. Please keep in mind that we’re releasing this as one portion of a massive November update that introduces and improves many aspects of challenge, progression, and rewards. With this and upcoming updates, we view ourselves as introducing large amounts of content with supporting systems and features, akin to an expansion pack, building on Guild Wars 2 through a series of live releases. So it’s important for us to be able to add an expansion pack’s worth of progression and rewards to support that content.
Our goal is not to create a gear treadmill. Our goal is to ensure we have a proper progression for players from exotic up to legendary without a massive jump in reward between the two. We will slowly add the remaining ascended gear items and legendary items in future updates to allow people time to acquire them as we add exciting new content that deserves exciting rewards. We will not be adding a new tier of gear every 3 months that we expect everyone to chase after and then get the next set and so on.
Ascended and infusion rewards will be available in both PvE and WvW over time, and be made available through all sorts of content around the world including existing content. PvP will remain unaffected to ensure our intended PvP balance going forward. We are also working on other reward and progression systems for the game that tie into current and new content and features. As you know we care very much about your support and opinion and are listening intently to what you say.
Finally we look forward to hearing your thoughts on the upcoming content, and we will ensure we share our thoughts with you on the experiences we share in the Lost Shores."
Chris Whiteside – Studio Design Director

I thought you couldn’t wear ascended gear in WvW

I’m thinking you can’t wear it in sPvP but WvW is free game.

i can confirm that the new legendary buffs work ust fine in WvW so i assume all ascended gear can be worn there…

Welcome to WoW Jr.

SmokeyNYY.7841:

I thought you couldn’t wear ascended gear in WvW

I wish.

I see people complain they don’t want gear for progression in WvW. It makes it like WoW blah blah. But I know that if they don’t do anything that we can progress towards this game will be deader than dead in a few months. Hell it is already headed in that direction as we speak according to 90% of the people on theses forums. They have to give us progression that makes our toons better. No “Titles” will not cut it. Granz “The Super Awesome” above my head won’t work. I personally think Mythic nailed the PvP progression system in DAoC. Abilities and stat buffs was awesome. But never the less we need something. We need a reason to play this game. Right now there isn’t one.

As long as it’s available by karma/badges I’m ok with gear progression in WvW. Just don’t make it available in dungeons only. And always keep it out of PvP.

What exactly does "over time " mean,and why can’t these be obtained in WvWvW and pve NOW?

Columba.9730:

What exactly does "over time " mean,and why can’t these be obtained in WvWvW and pve NOW?

WvW players are the red headed stepchildren of this game.

Edit: currently in game it is easier to get a full set of 80 exotics doing pve then it is to get 1-2 pieces of WvW exotics. I can’t see ascended gear costing anything less then 1k WvW tokens. It is disgraceful how they have done almost nothing for WvW this patch.

1k badges would be much better than having to do an accursed dungeon.

Granz.4068:

I see people complain they don’t want gear for progression in WvW. It makes it like WoW blah blah. But I know that if they don’t do anything that we can progress towards this game will be deader than dead in a few months. Hell it is already headed in that direction as we speak according to 90% of the people on theses forums. They have to give us progression that makes our toons better. No “Titles” will not cut it. Granz “The Super Awesome” above my head won’t work. I personally think Mythic nailed the PvP progression system in DAoC. Abilities and stat buffs was awesome. But never the less we need something. We need a reason to play this game. Right now there isn’t one.

According to 90% of the people who troll these forums maybe, then like 90% of the people who actually play the game and WvWvW blew up the thread in opposition to this. Most people are still having fun with actual character progression, I haven’t heard one person in game yet complain that they need stat progression. What exactly are you working towards? Every single other player will end up with exactly what you’re wearing but there will be a broad spectrum of players subpar or surpassing your skill and build or your guilds, or your server. There’s already a perfect setting for actual character progression and everyone I know were already happy with it.

Progression should = new unique armor, “ranks” that maybe give you a few neat perks like summon a banner that buffs your allies or something non-game breaking but kind of cool.

This new idea of another tier of gear better than exotics is I hope a joke. Especially in a game where PvP was suppose to be a big deal. Anytime pvp is suppose to be a big deal you cannot have a gear gap and be taken seriously.

The whole idea behind Guild Wars was that rewards were going to be purely cosmetic. So much for that……

Can you please tell us When this gear will be available via wvwvw? I just cannot do another dungeon. I hate them with a passion.

Dont feed trolls …
I want my ascended without doin dungeons -_- by craft : D

Even when it gets added to WvWvW, you can bet it will take ALOT longer to get the gear than from Dungeons.

Just started that new lost shore event got bored after 5 minutes.
Have done to many PvE in WoW and i just cannot enjoy it anymore.

WvW aint fun anymore either 7 days matches are to long.
WvW culling is gamebreaking
WvW and no specific updates released

My guild making the transfer to PS2 within a few days and have fun in a sandbox pure pvp game, altough a shooter, it stays true to its roots.

Had alot of fun since beta in GW2 tough, but it seems Anet just detached itself from their own promise.

Maybe comming back in a few months when they have some updates in WvW.

One simple thing they could do to please tens of thousands of players(if not hundreds of thousands) about to quit over the ascended gear, like myself. They just make wvwvw seperate from PVE. Have it have the same gear system as sPVP except you can transmute PVE skins onto them, this will make everyone happy, and by everyone I mean the real wvwvw players who care about beating someone with skill and not stat increases, the real players, the one that played this game because progression was supposed to be cosmetic only.

John Lucier.5486:

One simple thing they could do to please tens of thousands of players(if not hundreds of thousands) about to quit over the ascended gear, like myself. They just make wvwvw seperate from PVE. Have it have the same gear system as sPVP except you can transmute PVE skins onto them, this will make everyone happy, and by everyone I mean the real wvwvw players who care about beating someone with skill and not stat increases, the real players, the one that played this game because progression was supposed to be cosmetic only.

Problem:

Dat $$$$$$$$$

John Lucier.5486:

One simple thing they could do to please tens of thousands of players(if not hundreds of thousands) about to quit over the ascended gear, like myself. They just make wvwvw seperate from PVE. Have it have the same gear system as sPVP except you can transmute PVE skins onto them, this will make everyone happy, and by everyone I mean the real wvwvw players who care about beating someone with skill and not stat increases, the real players, the one that played this game because progression was supposed to be cosmetic only.

As far as I know, the “real” wvwvw players don’t care about stat increases cause in the end 5v3 is always better than a 1v1. No need to outmatch your opponent in stats when you can outsmart them.
Strategy is everything. Stop whining about gear. Keep playing and you will catch up in gear to the PvE guys eventually. Anet is not stupid. PvE guys will get a headstart, as they get with everything but that’s gonna be it. They will allow you to catch up (in gear) to them PvE grinders soon enough.

naphack.9346:

John Lucier.5486:

One simple thing they could do to please tens of thousands of players(if not hundreds of thousands) about to quit over the ascended gear, like myself. They just make wvwvw seperate from PVE. Have it have the same gear system as sPVP except you can transmute PVE skins onto them, this will make everyone happy, and by everyone I mean the real wvwvw players who care about beating someone with skill and not stat increases, the real players, the one that played this game because progression was supposed to be cosmetic only.

As far as I know, the “real” wvwvw players don’t care about stat increases cause in the end 5v3 is always better than a 1v1. No need to outmatch your opponent in stats when you can outsmart them.
Strategy is everything. Stop whining about gear. Keep playing and you will catch up in gear to the PvE guys eventually. Anet is not stupid. PvE guys will get a headstart, as they get with everything but that’s gonna be it. They will allow you to catch up (in gear) to them PvE grinders soon enough.

That sounds like a wow locust zerg mindset, hands down. Yes, We real wvwvw players, do not care about stat increases to beat our opponents. But it does get out of hand when you face people with 20-50% more damage and/or 20-50% more tank, think about if your server has a dedicated wvwvw crowd, and the other has a PvX guild that gets all the new gear for themselves, the stats aren’t minor. A-net has made it clear, new gear, not fixing bugs, AOE limits, that skill cap in this game is set to low, and there is only so much a server can do when undergeared and facing a server full of new shiny ascended gear.

Real wvwvw players would take the spvp gear system, and welcome it, as long as PVE skins can be transmuted, even if it still takes durability hits on death, that way they can keep to what they PAID for, and not be forced to login to a 2nd job.

As it stands right now, the tens of thousands of posts against the ascended gear on these forums alone, then you have the same on reddit, A-net is taking this game down a path that would make NGE or SWTOR look like heaven.

Haldunius.7864:

As long as it’s available by karma/badges I’m ok with gear progression in WvW. Just don’t make it available in dungeons only. And always keep it out of PvP.

it would be sad if Anet makes the WvW ascended gears to be steps behind PvE ascended gears. Just because they are all “Ascended” dont mean they will have same type of stats.

John Lucier.5486:

naphack.9346:

John Lucier.5486:

One simple thing they could do to please tens of thousands of players(if not hundreds of thousands) about to quit over the ascended gear, like myself. They just make wvwvw seperate from PVE. Have it have the same gear system as sPVP except you can transmute PVE skins onto them, this will make everyone happy, and by everyone I mean the real wvwvw players who care about beating someone with skill and not stat increases, the real players, the one that played this game because progression was supposed to be cosmetic only.

As far as I know, the “real” wvwvw players don’t care about stat increases cause in the end 5v3 is always better than a 1v1. No need to outmatch your opponent in stats when you can outsmart them.
Strategy is everything. Stop whining about gear. Keep playing and you will catch up in gear to the PvE guys eventually. Anet is not stupid. PvE guys will get a headstart, as they get with everything but that’s gonna be it. They will allow you to catch up (in gear) to them PvE grinders soon enough.

That sounds like a wow locust zerg mindset, hands down. Yes, We real wvwvw players, do not care about stat increases to beat our opponents. But it does get out of hand when you face people with 20-50% more damage and/or 20-50% more tank, think about if your server has a dedicated wvwvw crowd, and the other has a PvX guild that gets all the new gear for themselves, the stats aren’t minor. A-net has made it clear, new gear, not fixing bugs, AOE limits, that skill cap in this game is set to low, and there is only so much a server can do when undergeared and facing a server full of new shiny ascended gear.

Real wvwvw players would take the spvp gear system, and welcome it, as long as PVE skins can be transmuted, even if it still takes durability hits on death, that way they can keep to what they PAID for, and not be forced to login to a 2nd job.

As it stands right now, the tens of thousands of posts against the ascended gear on these forums alone, then you have the same on reddit, A-net is taking this game down a path that would make NGE or SWTOR look like heaven.

Last time, I checked, it was like an overall increase of 2-3% in stats… Far from game breaking.

I too feel l like Anet lied to us to get us to buy the game, they now have our money, and don’t really care what we (those sick and tired of pve gear grinding) think or feel. But, what I find most aggravating is the lack of information given to those of us that only like wvw. I like the battles enough still that just letting us know some idea of HOW wvw will be able to earn the new gear would probably pacify me quite a bit. I mean, just a simple hey folks, we’re working on wvw badges to no longer be looted and creating a new badge (or something) to buy ascended gear/mats with for wvw players. Just knowing it’s being worked on would not make me give up when PS2 goes live.

naphack.9346:

Last time, I checked, it was like an overall increase of 2-3% in stats… Far from game breaking.

Might want to check again.

naphack.9346:

John Lucier.5486:

naphack.9346:

John Lucier.5486:

One simple thing they could do to please tens of thousands of players(if not hundreds of thousands) about to quit over the ascended gear, like myself. They just make wvwvw seperate from PVE. Have it have the same gear system as sPVP except you can transmute PVE skins onto them, this will make everyone happy, and by everyone I mean the real wvwvw players who care about beating someone with skill and not stat increases, the real players, the one that played this game because progression was supposed to be cosmetic only.

As far as I know, the “real” wvwvw players don’t care about stat increases cause in the end 5v3 is always better than a 1v1. No need to outmatch your opponent in stats when you can outsmart them.
Strategy is everything. Stop whining about gear. Keep playing and you will catch up in gear to the PvE guys eventually. Anet is not stupid. PvE guys will get a headstart, as they get with everything but that’s gonna be it. They will allow you to catch up (in gear) to them PvE grinders soon enough.

That sounds like a wow locust zerg mindset, hands down. Yes, We real wvwvw players, do not care about stat increases to beat our opponents. But it does get out of hand when you face people with 20-50% more damage and/or 20-50% more tank, think about if your server has a dedicated wvwvw crowd, and the other has a PvX guild that gets all the new gear for themselves, the stats aren’t minor. A-net has made it clear, new gear, not fixing bugs, AOE limits, that skill cap in this game is set to low, and there is only so much a server can do when undergeared and facing a server full of new shiny ascended gear.

Real wvwvw players would take the spvp gear system, and welcome it, as long as PVE skins can be transmuted, even if it still takes durability hits on death, that way they can keep to what they PAID for, and not be forced to login to a 2nd job.

As it stands right now, the tens of thousands of posts against the ascended gear on these forums alone, then you have the same on reddit, A-net is taking this game down a path that would make NGE or SWTOR look like heaven.

Last time, I checked, it was like an overall increase of 2-3% in stats… Far from game breaking.

even 1% critical power in each armor / accesory /weapon piece makes it to be an 15% advantage

naphack.9346:

John Lucier.5486:

One simple thing they could do to please tens of thousands of players(if not hundreds of thousands) about to quit over the ascended gear, like myself. They just make wvwvw seperate from PVE. Have it have the same gear system as sPVP except you can transmute PVE skins onto them, this will make everyone happy, and by everyone I mean the real wvwvw players who care about beating someone with skill and not stat increases, the real players, the one that played this game because progression was supposed to be cosmetic only.

As far as I know, the “real” wvwvw players don’t care about stat increases cause in the end 5v3 is always better than a 1v1. No need to outmatch your opponent in stats when you can outsmart them.
Strategy is everything. Stop whining about gear. Keep playing and you will catch up in gear to the PvE guys eventually. Anet is not stupid. PvE guys will get a headstart, as they get with everything but that’s gonna be it. They will allow you to catch up (in gear) to them PvE grinders soon enough.

Have you bothered to research the gaps vs exotic?

naphack.9346:

John Lucier.5486:

naphack.9346:

John Lucier.5486:

One simple thing they could do to please tens of thousands of players(if not hundreds of thousands) about to quit over the ascended gear, like myself. They just make wvwvw seperate from PVE. Have it have the same gear system as sPVP except you can transmute PVE skins onto them, this will make everyone happy, and by everyone I mean the real wvwvw players who care about beating someone with skill and not stat increases, the real players, the one that played this game because progression was supposed to be cosmetic only.

As far as I know, the “real” wvwvw players don’t care about stat increases cause in the end 5v3 is always better than a 1v1. No need to outmatch your opponent in stats when you can outsmart them.
Strategy is everything. Stop whining about gear. Keep playing and you will catch up in gear to the PvE guys eventually. Anet is not stupid. PvE guys will get a headstart, as they get with everything but that’s gonna be it. They will allow you to catch up (in gear) to them PvE grinders soon enough.

That sounds like a wow locust zerg mindset, hands down. Yes, We real wvwvw players, do not care about stat increases to beat our opponents. But it does get out of hand when you face people with 20-50% more damage and/or 20-50% more tank, think about if your server has a dedicated wvwvw crowd, and the other has a PvX guild that gets all the new gear for themselves, the stats aren’t minor. A-net has made it clear, new gear, not fixing bugs, AOE limits, that skill cap in this game is set to low, and there is only so much a server can do when undergeared and facing a server full of new shiny ascended gear.

Real wvwvw players would take the spvp gear system, and welcome it, as long as PVE skins can be transmuted, even if it still takes durability hits on death, that way they can keep to what they PAID for, and not be forced to login to a 2nd job.

As it stands right now, the tens of thousands of posts against the ascended gear on these forums alone, then you have the same on reddit, A-net is taking this game down a path that would make NGE or SWTOR look like heaven.

Last time, I checked, it was like an overall increase of 2-3% in stats… Far from game breaking.

Not even close. Go do the math.

I would be more optimistic about Ascended and future gear progressions in WvW, if Anet ever realized that they should be offering WvW players the same options in Exotic Sets that Dungeon Grinders get. Why are we still limited to just one set of stats for our WvW gear? This is an issue I wish more would bring up and one that shows me a lack of attention and sympathy Anet has shown to the WvW player based when it comes to item progression for us.

John Lucier.5486:

Real wvwvw players would take the spvp gear system, and welcome it, as long as PVE skins can be transmuted, even if it still takes durability hits on death, that way they can keep to what they PAID for, and not be forced to login to a 2nd job.

I made apost about this very thing just now.
The replies so far suggest that I’m wrong for even bringing this up.

Glad to see you write this, so maybe i’m not alone in thinking that gear could be leveled out like in spvp.
It’s all pvp in the end… gear shouldn’t matter.

The ascended discussion would be void than too, since it wouldn’t be even usable aside from looks.

I think it will because it was stated by Chris Whitside that it will be added some time in the far future.
I expect that after 3-4 new dungeons have been released and the dedicated players have that stuff that they will let the 1st dungeon stuff drop in WvW.

That way the Leet games can have an advantage and show it off to people. After all that is the point to reward those that have put the time in to get them.
Otherwise there would be no point to grind away in the dungeon if they drop outside of one right away.

The far future is completely unacceptable to me.

naphack.9346:

John Lucier.5486:

One simple thing they could do to please tens of thousands of players(if not hundreds of thousands) about to quit over the ascended gear, like myself. They just make wvwvw seperate from PVE. Have it have the same gear system as sPVP except you can transmute PVE skins onto them, this will make everyone happy, and by everyone I mean the real wvwvw players who care about beating someone with skill and not stat increases, the real players, the one that played this game because progression was supposed to be cosmetic only.

As far as I know, the “real” wvwvw players don’t care about stat increases cause in the end 5v3 is always better than a 1v1. No need to outmatch your opponent in stats when you can outsmart them.
Strategy is everything. Stop whining about gear. Keep playing and you will catch up in gear to the PvE guys eventually. Anet is not stupid. PvE guys will get a headstart, as they get with everything but that’s gonna be it. They will allow you to catch up (in gear) to them PvE grinders soon enough.

if your strategy doesn’t include coming prepared with the proper gear, then your strategy is inherently flawed.

While you keep +friendship and +guts vs that door. I’m going to bring siege and drop rams.

We have a clear statement from Anet already.

Anet focus on PvE then WvW.
Dungeons crawlers get their gear then WvW players afterwards.
PvX guilds in WvW will dominate versus Pure WvW guilds that cannot or will not do PvE.

Clear statement from Anet, i do not need to know what the future holds or brings, i do not care for such promises anymore from no studio, be it Blizzard , Anet , Bioware , SOE.

Its back to Eve Online and soon PS2 for me and my guys.
Hope Anet doesnt get punished to hard for their decisions, they do not deserve it, but this patch showed me the way that WvW is just a arcade minigame with no real focus or dedication it needs to have to be competitive.

Phara Miu.2816:

We have a clear statement from Anet already.

Anet focus on PvE then WvW.
Dungeons crawlers get their gear then WvW players afterwards.
PvX guilds in WvW will dominate versus Pure WvW guilds that cannot or will not do PvE.

Clear statement from Anet, i do not need to know what the future holds or brings, i do not care for such promises anymore from no studio, be it Blizzard , Anet , Bioware , SOE.

Its back to Eve Online and soon PS2 for me and my guys.
Hope Anet doesnt get punished to hard for their decisions, they do not deserve it, but this patch showed me the way that WvW is just a arcade minigame with no real focus or dedication it needs to have to be competitive.

The word ‘competetive’ is simply out of place for WvW of course.

In order to be competetive it would not only have to equalise gear and traits, but also equalise entering numbers completely at any given point.

Not to mention the fact that entire guilds can still swap every friday if they want…

I would like WvW to be something close to competetive, or at least a fight on equal terms.

It’s very odd that they put pve guilds before even the dedicated WvW guilds who don’t do pve.
It’s bound to happen if you let gear be a factor of course.

I’d be fine with an ascended piece costing 1k badges, a week seems about a good amount of time.

I’d be fine with normalizing ascended down to exotic for wvw.

Though, neither will probably happen, so I’ll have to hit up the dungeons a few times. Oh well.

Granz.4068:

I see people complain they don’t want gear for progression in WvW. It makes it like WoW blah blah. But I know that if they don’t do anything that we can progress towards this game will be deader than dead in a few months. Hell it is already headed in that direction as we speak according to 90% of the people on theses forums. They have to give us progression that makes our toons better. No “Titles” will not cut it. Granz “The Super Awesome” above my head won’t work. I personally think Mythic nailed the PvP progression system in DAoC. Abilities and stat buffs was awesome. But never the less we need something. We need a reason to play this game. Right now there isn’t one.

An issue is that if the progression is gotten by having to grind PvE – WvW players will not bother and find something else.
Mythic learned that the hard way.

So progression is not the issue – PvE progression for PvP is.

The current costs for a normal piece of pvp gear needs to be dropped to about 150-200 tokens.

Ascended gear could be about 500 badges.

I will be interested to see how much Karma they cost when they introduce Ascended gear for Karma. I am guessing 100-150k Karma.

Either way I am saving up both indefinitely.

As to Warhammer, last time I played, maybe 2 years ago, they had a very good gear progression for pvp in place. But initially the pve to pvp was stupid.

They better introduce ascended gear and infusion trinkets for karma/badges,or loads of dedicated wvw players will leave this game,and that,lady`s and gentleman…….is a fact.

It’s the same in every game. The top 10% want something special so the Devs create this ‘hurdle’ everyone has to pass to compete.

Worst decision ever. Hear comes the gear grind in earnest. Get ready to be judged even more harshly on what your equipment is.

You’d think after all the previous failures from other MMO’s that Anet would have learned that this kind of thing never works, lasts, or is worth the hassle. I give it 6 mos before it’s altered, replaced, or expunged.

F2P helps though- won’t cost me anything to return and see if the ‘new’ solution is worth my time.

The end of casual players and the beginning of true egotism/elitism.

WvW is just PvE on a PK server. but WvW is a kittenization of PvP by having so much PvE content, but then WvW doesn’t get the bonuses of PvE or the extreme nerfs of sPvP.
right now tokens don’t drop enough, period. some nights I get 20 other nights I get 50, and it isn’t from not killing people… or “gaurdian” NPCS.

Good luck balancing this.

Just allow us to get the same things purely thru WvW that PvErs have and can bring into our WvW zones. That is what I believe most of us expected coming into the game based on the developer supported hype.

Telling me to go farm gold or grind dungeons to get the same choices others have is not what was promised.

Skaag.2954:

Just allow us to get the same things purely thru WvW that PvErs have and can bring into our WvW zones. That is what I believe most of us expected coming into the game based on the developer supported hype.

Telling me to go farm gold or grind dungeons to get the same choices others have is not what was promised.

All they can say is “over time” which is completely unacceptable. They should have introduced wvwvw rewards with this from day one.

And, and, why are W3 people buffing the PVE people.
They weren’t nice enough to go into overflow for me so that I could do W3.

They shouldn’t get any server bonuses unless they want to get out there and fight.

If it’s going to be a divide, make it a real one. If agony belongs anywhere it’s in PVP, we need our own set that radiates from keeps to keep them out of casually jumping in and out of gameplay taking up slots to do the jumping puzzle.

Let the division begin.

I am SO f’n tired of having to PvE through lame kitten boring dungeon grinds to stay competitive in WvW.

So much for being a “PvP” based game.

Pretty asburd A-net didn’t release a WvW version of Ascended gear. I will never do a dungeon ever. I just hate PvE way to much.

All this outrage and whining is depressing and ridiculous. The sky is falling! I hate dungeons! Why won’t Anet keep me appraised of their every intention!? Everyone should be identical!!!!

At this point, for all you know the tokens and karma from WvW could make ascended gear perfectly accessible without ever set foot in PvE (god forbid). How about we wait a little bit before getting our panties in a bunch and sharpening our pitchforks?

And you know what else? The advantage of being a skilled player dwarfs any advantage from armor. I’m not worried. I’ll battle in any armor.

Chin up lads.

- Rockrain, FA

Shadow Gathering.5649:

All this outrage and whining is depressing and ridiculous. The sky is falling! I hate dungeons! Why won’t Anet keep me appraised of their every intention!? Everyone should be identical!!!!

At this point, for all you know the tokens and karma from WvW could make ascended gear perfectly accessible without ever set foot in PvE (god forbid). How about we wait a little bit before getting our panties in a bunch and sharpening our pitchforks?

And you know what else? The advantage of being a skilled player dwarfs any advantage from armor. I’m not worried. I’ll battle in any armor.

Chin up lads.

- Rockrain, FA

so why is the wow crowd getting them first? Why not launch with the ability to get in wvwvw from day one. WHy are we second class citizens?