Guild Wars 2

No tears… Only dreams

And Bacon.

And I need more characters so here.

DevonCarver.5370:

I love bacon too. And, we are hustling to make this a reality. Just remember to listen to George Michael. “You’ve gotta have faith.”

o thank you! hoping to see something in May or June

@Devon Any reason in particular why adding ascended gear to WvW hasn’t been done yet? Maybe a reason past “you have to trust us” would give the WvW community some peace of mind.

Luvpie.8350:

DevonCarver.5370:

I love bacon too. And, we are hustling to make this a reality. Just remember to listen to George Michael. “You’ve gotta have faith.”

o thank you! hoping to see something in May or June

2014

Maybe go one step further and make ascended weapons only in WvW Make the PvErs WvW for 3 months just like WvWers had to PvE for jewelry.

So what exactly is holding this back? Seems adding a vendor is simple enough. Asc. Gear has been around for five months now, or was it six?

Im glad he at least implied they still want to add ascended gear to WvW, but its been a long time now that PVE players could get it, and WvW players could not. Sooner is better!

Luvpie.8350:

Maybe go one step further and make ascended weapons only in WvW Make the PvErs WvW for 3 months just like WvWers had to PvE for jewelry.

Actually, we have to do WvW for our shiny weapons already. Ya know, map completion and all.

DevonCarver.5370:

I love bacon too. And, we are hustling to make this a reality. Just remember to listen to George Michael. “You’ve gotta have faith.”

You guys make it really hard to have any faith because until you (Devon) came into WvW it wasnt moving anywhere. And IF it moved, it was backwards.
You have a lot to make up for to make people believe….sadly.

Knightmare.8634:

Luvpie.8350:

DevonCarver.5370:

I love bacon too. And, we are hustling to make this a reality. Just remember to listen to George Michael. “You’ve gotta have faith.”

o thank you! hoping to see something in May or June

2014

2016

By the time ascended jewelry is available for WwW crowd, the Pve folks will have access to ascended armor/weapon and WwW crowd will QQ again cause they must do PvE for ascended armor/weapon

cough…. cough….

imo of course... there are more important things to be worked on for WvW then adding gear... like.. broken mechanics and the state of the WvW atm.. just my opinion though

Arale.4207:

Luvpie.8350:

Maybe go one step further and make ascended weapons only in WvW Make the PvErs WvW for 3 months just like WvWers had to PvE for jewelry.

Actually, we have to do WvW for our shiny weapons already. Ya know, map completion and all.

Getting ports in the JP isn’t WvW.

In November it was mentioned that ascended gear was released in a poor way and that Anet would be correcting that. 5 patches later and we still have nothing to spend our badges on or acquire ascended gear without doing pve. Many of us are sitting on thousands and thousands of badges in hopes that one day we can spend them. Right now it’s clutter in my bank. If the intention was to force me to buy more bank space then you won.

DevonCarver.5370:

I love bacon too. And, we are hustling to make this a reality. Just remember to listen to George Michael. “You’ve gotta have faith.”

Is that the hustle of a 99 year old lady with a bad hip? If you moved any slower on the topic of WvW rewards and gear we would start rolling backwards. Thank you for the new skins this patch, really glad I can spend a bunch of badges instead of 1 silver off the TP. What about that inspires faith?

Well, you know what’s worse than fractals? Guild bounty missions. Stand around for an hour, waiting for things to get organized, finding some of the silliest targets, and then a flurry of chaos for 15 minutes, just for a couple of tokens. Repeat this over a month, and then you get an earring!

DevonCarver.5370:

I love bacon too. And, we are hustling to make this a reality. Just remember to listen to George Michael. “You’ve gotta have faith.”

I appreciate the response, but I’m confused as to what the roadblock is… I’m admittedly not a programmer or anything, but it can’t be too hard adding a new merchant to WvW spawns.

ParaldaWind.4523:

I appreciate the response, but I’m confused as to what the roadblock is… I’m admittedly not a programmer or anything, but it can’t be too hard adding a new merchant to WvW spawns.

The challenge is that they have no idea what they’re doing when it comes to rewards, so they have to learn first.

Zikory.6871:

@Devon Any reason in particular why adding ascended gear to WvW hasn’t been done yet? Maybe a reason past “you have to trust us” would give the WvW community some peace of mind.

My bet is it’s because they’re working out the details on adding another gated currency type for WvW. Currently, Ascended items are time gated with limits on fractals, guild missions and laurels, which is obviously intended to stretch out how fast players can obtain these items for each character.

Badges of Honor have no time restriction. As long as there is a player to kill in WvW there is a badge to obtain. So, they can’t just drop Ascended items on a vendor that costs badges, unless they set the cost ridiculously high, which might not matter for many players who are sitting on thousands of badges but at the same time would hurt new WvW players. I don’t see them going this route.

My take on things anyways for what it’s worth.

Liquid.9672:

Zikory.6871:

@Devon Any reason in particular why adding ascended gear to WvW hasn’t been done yet? Maybe a reason past “you have to trust us” would give the WvW community some peace of mind.

My bet is it’s because they’re working out the details on adding another gated currency type for WvW. Currently, Ascended items are time gated with limits on fractals, guild missions and laurels, which is obviously intended to stretch out how fast players can obtain these items for each character.

Badges of Honor have no time restriction. As long as there is a player to kill in WvW there is a badge to obtain. So, they can’t just drop Ascended items on a vendor that costs badges, unless they set the cost ridiculously high, which might not matter for many players who are sitting on thousands of badges but at the same time would hurt new WvW players. I don’t see them going this route.

My take on things anyways for what it’s worth.

Badges are very time gated. It’s very rare to get more than one stack of badges per night, and as I said, that’s after 6-8 hours. I have 4k saved up, but that took me two months.

As a reference, one of my guildies has 40k kills, has never spent a single badge, and only has around 10k badges. They also have well over 1500 hours in WvW.

Liquid.9672:

Zikory.6871:

@Devon Any reason in particular why adding ascended gear to WvW hasn’t been done yet? Maybe a reason past “you have to trust us” would give the WvW community some peace of mind.

My bet is it’s because they’re working out the details on adding another gated currency type for WvW. Currently, Ascended items are time gated with limits on fractals, guild missions and laurels, which is obviously intended to stretch out how fast players can obtain these items for each character.

Badges of Honor have no time restriction. As long as there is a player to kill in WvW there is a badge to obtain. So, they can’t just drop Ascended items on a vendor that costs badges, unless they set the cost ridiculously high, which might not matter for many players who are sitting on thousands of badges but at the same time would hurt new WvW players. I don’t see them going this route.

My take on things anyways for what it’s worth.

Assuming your right and they did add a new currency, I would hope they think it out very carefully. If it is something farmable in WvW the meta would change once again to cater to that and might not be best for WvW. I have faith they will do what they think is best for this issue, I was just hoping to sneak a little bit of info out of Devon :-)

Lelith.2916:

imo of course… there are more important things to be worked on for WvW then adding gear… like.. broken mechanics and the state of the WvW atm.. just my opinion though

I agree, but seriously this shouldn’t take more than an hour to do. Hell it is probably more like a 10 second copy and paste. The only hard part is figuring out how much they should cost badge wise.

Hell just make laurels you can buy with badges? Seems simple enough to me……

Zikory.6871:

Liquid.9672:

Zikory.6871:

@Devon Any reason in particular why adding ascended gear to WvW hasn’t been done yet? Maybe a reason past “you have to trust us” would give the WvW community some peace of mind.

My bet is it’s because they’re working out the details on adding another gated currency type for WvW. Currently, Ascended items are time gated with limits on fractals, guild missions and laurels, which is obviously intended to stretch out how fast players can obtain these items for each character.

Badges of Honor have no time restriction. As long as there is a player to kill in WvW there is a badge to obtain. So, they can’t just drop Ascended items on a vendor that costs badges, unless they set the cost ridiculously high, which might not matter for many players who are sitting on thousands of badges but at the same time would hurt new WvW players. I don’t see them going this route.

My take on things anyways for what it’s worth.

Assuming your right and they did add a new currency, I would hope they think it out very carefully. If it is something farmable in WvW the meta would change once again to cater to that and might not be best for WvW. I have faith they will do what they think is best for this issue, I was just hoping to sneak a little bit of info out of Devon :-)

And therefor have nothing to spend badges on again? What’s the point of badges except to equip out ATLs and buy cheapo skins?

ParaldaWind.4523:

Liquid.9672:

Zikory.6871:

@Devon Any reason in particular why adding ascended gear to WvW hasn’t been done yet? Maybe a reason past “you have to trust us” would give the WvW community some peace of mind.

My bet is it’s because they’re working out the details on adding another gated currency type for WvW. Currently, Ascended items are time gated with limits on fractals, guild missions and laurels, which is obviously intended to stretch out how fast players can obtain these items for each character.

Badges of Honor have no time restriction. As long as there is a player to kill in WvW there is a badge to obtain. So, they can’t just drop Ascended items on a vendor that costs badges, unless they set the cost ridiculously high, which might not matter for many players who are sitting on thousands of badges but at the same time would hurt new WvW players. I don’t see them going this route.

My take on things anyways for what it’s worth.

Badges are very time gated. It’s very rare to get more than one stack of badges per night, and as I said, that’s after 6-8 hours. I have 4k saved up, but that took me two months.

As a reference, one of my guildies has 40k kills, has never spent a single badge, and only has around 10k badges. They also have well over 1500 hours in WvW.

My point was there is no physical limit to the number you can obtain, besides the drop rate and the number of players available and possible to kill. To an extent you’re right though. Still, I see it like this … badges have a bottleneck with no hard gate, compared to laurels which has a definite hard gate (1 per day + 10 per month). Maybe it’s just a matter of them working out the right badge cost based on how fast they determine the average player can obtain badges.

Beachead.4127:

Zikory.6871:

Liquid.9672:

Zikory.6871:

@Devon Any reason in particular why adding ascended gear to WvW hasn’t been done yet? Maybe a reason past “you have to trust us” would give the WvW community some peace of mind.

My bet is it’s because they’re working out the details on adding another gated currency type for WvW. Currently, Ascended items are time gated with limits on fractals, guild missions and laurels, which is obviously intended to stretch out how fast players can obtain these items for each character.

Badges of Honor have no time restriction. As long as there is a player to kill in WvW there is a badge to obtain. So, they can’t just drop Ascended items on a vendor that costs badges, unless they set the cost ridiculously high, which might not matter for many players who are sitting on thousands of badges but at the same time would hurt new WvW players. I don’t see them going this route.

My take on things anyways for what it’s worth.

Assuming your right and they did add a new currency, I would hope they think it out very carefully. If it is something farmable in WvW the meta would change once again to cater to that and might not be best for WvW. I have faith they will do what they think is best for this issue, I was just hoping to sneak a little bit of info out of Devon :-)

And therefor have nothing to spend badges on again? What’s the point of badges except to equip out ATLs and buy cheapo skins?

My guess would be it would cost a number of things like X badges X gold X what ever currency. Like what they have done with the current WvW gear.

ParaldaWind.4523:

DevonCarver.5370:

I love bacon too. And, we are hustling to make this a reality. Just remember to listen to George Michael. “You’ve gotta have faith.”

I appreciate the response, but I’m confused as to what the roadblock is… I’m admittedly not a programmer or anything, but it can’t be too hard adding a new merchant to WvW spawns.

I imagine there is some opposition from the PvE team because of some notion that being able to get ascended stuff from WvW would be ‘too easy’ and thus devalue the PvE endgame content they’ve been pushing.

See: ‘welfare epics’.

I would expect that when they finally do some to WvW they will require an absurd amount of badges, some gold, and possibly some sort of new, rarer, badge as well. Oh, and you’ll only be able to buy the rings for at least 6 months. The earrings probably won’t get added until at least two more ascended pieces are released and the necklaces will remain under the province of the laurel system.

Edit: So, scrap the additional currency idea. But perhaps you would enlighten us as to what some of the obstacles blocking the path are Devon?

DevonCarver.5370:

We are not planning on adding a new currency to handle Ascended items in WvW.

Well there goes my theory. Sadly this won’t be the last time I’ll be wrong about something, but I’m man enough to admit it!

Thanks for the clarification Devon and probably killing pages worth of speculation.

Hnnng, yeah I kind of want to know what those barriers are if it’s not an issue of adding new currencies.

You’re not thinking of making them random drops off of Grub are you? I hope not, ‘cuz that’d actually be the best idea ever.

DevonCarver.5370:

We are not planning on adding a new currency to handle Ascended items in WvW.

We’ve waited to long as it is. My 300 man guild has quit, and I’ve been trying to hold out until you guys spend more time focusing on WvW, instead of PvE all the time, and I’m done.

I can not wait any longer.

DevonCarver.5370:

I love bacon too. And, we are hustling to make this a reality. Just remember to listen to George Michael. “You’ve gotta have faith.”

You may want to reply regarding Arrowcarts.

The currency seems to be simply the wait time we have to endure to get the stuff. It doesn’t really matter if its easy to buy, if by the time WvWers get their Ascended the vast majority of PVErs are fully slotted with BiS for months.

DevonCarver.5370:

We are not planning on adding a new currency to handle Ascended items in WvW.

Good to hear! I’m glad you’re on the team, Devon.

We will see ascended gear when those who are only doing their dailies have met the minimum amount of time to get all their ascended gear.

Why do I say that? Many people have been saving their badges since the beginning, including myself. Day 1 when this gets released, they will have all of their ascended gear out of the gate. Many people will cry about doing all those fractals or dailies and how they had to invest time while the WvW crowd got them right away. Allowing all the daily/fractal people to put in their time and get their ascended gear holds the whining to a minimum at least.

I’m think either the next patch or the patch after that will be our ascended gear patch. It doesn’t take that much work to put in a vendor that sells ascended gear for currency. It’s already done they are just biding their time.

By the time wvw gets ascended items, there will be another tier open for pve / dungeon / fracs players =)

kekeke

DevonCarver.5370:

We are not planning on adding a new currency to handle Ascended items in WvW.

So we can use badge of honors. Any info when i can buy these items?

Junkpile.7439:

DevonCarver.5370:

We are not planning on adding a new currency to handle Ascended items in WvW.

So we can use badge of honors. Any info when i can buy these items?

Either that or they will make Laurels somehow available. Once Per Day type situation.

DevonCarver.5370:

We are not planning on adding a new currency to handle Ascended items in WvW.

So basically you’ll just have to play WvW for 1000 hours to get a chance for a drop. Either that or 2500 Badges.

Typical RNG.

BulletNG.7069:

DevonCarver.5370:

We are not planning on adding a new currency to handle Ascended items in WvW.

So basically you’ll just have to play WvW for 1000 hours to get a chance for a drop. Either that or 2500 Badges.

Typical RNG.

It’s obvious there will be some sort of criteria for earning currency for ascended gear as it’s silly to believe they’d be given away. I’m an extremely casual player and have badges galore piled up, so this news makes me pretty happy. Hours would be ok, too. Drops, not so much, but whatever… I just want some sort of plan laid out so we can start actually getting some gear.

Debsylvania.7396:

BulletNG.7069:

DevonCarver.5370:

We are not planning on adding a new currency to handle Ascended items in WvW.

So basically you’ll just have to play WvW for 1000 hours to get a chance for a drop. Either that or 2500 Badges.

Typical RNG.

It’s obvious there will be some sort of criteria for earning currency for ascended gear as it’s silly to believe they’d be given away. I’m an extremely casual player and have badges galore piled up, so this news makes me pretty happy. Hours would be ok, too. Drops, not so much, but whatever… I just want some sort of plan laid out so we can start actually getting some gear.

Rumor is it will require 500 badges and 3 virgins sacrificed to ANet per ascended piece. Pretty steep price if you ask me. Not sure I have 500 badges lying around.

Burl.9567:

Debsylvania.7396:

BulletNG.7069:

DevonCarver.5370:

We are not planning on adding a new currency to handle Ascended items in WvW.

So basically you’ll just have to play WvW for 1000 hours to get a chance for a drop. Either that or 2500 Badges.

Typical RNG.

It’s obvious there will be some sort of criteria for earning currency for ascended gear as it’s silly to believe they’d be given away. I’m an extremely casual player and have badges galore piled up, so this news makes me pretty happy. Hours would be ok, too. Drops, not so much, but whatever… I just want some sort of plan laid out so we can start actually getting some gear.

Rumor is it will require 500 badges and 3 virgins sacrificed to ANet per ascended piece. Pretty steep price if you ask me. Not sure I have 500 badges lying around.

See i though it was going to be first born but thinking about it this is an mmorpg and there are some things that we will never see from mmorpg player hehe. Virgins sacrificed should not be too hard to find!
Any way Ascended gear has yet to do any thing with sieges weapons so its not that needed in WvW.

BulletNG.7069:

DevonCarver.5370:

We are not planning on adding a new currency to handle Ascended items in WvW.

So basically you’ll just have to play WvW for 1000 hours to get a chance for a drop. Either that or 2500 Badges.

Typical RNG.

2500 badges would be extremely inappropriate.

I estimate you can get 250 per 8 hours, meaning that 2500 would be 80 hours of pure zergbusting.

10 fractals, on the other hand, is no more than 10 hours, max.

DevonCarver.5370:

I love bacon too. And, we are hustling to make this a reality. Just remember to listen to George Michael. “You’ve gotta have faith.”

But by definition, faith is belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence… So you basically told us to believe in something while there is no valid reason to do so >_> (believe in it, but it will never happen!)

Don’t think that was your intention though lol

DevonCarver.5370:

I love bacon too. And, we are hustling to make this a reality. Just remember to listen to George Michael. “You’ve gotta have faith.”

There’s always money in the bananna stand? Oops, wrong George Michael.

You know what? Make ’em PvE for them. Map completion requires anyone who wants that 100% (regardless of wanting a legendary or not) to be active in WvW.

If I can bring myself to join the battle every single day I play, when I don’t really enjoy it much, on the off chance I’ll get a bit more of my map, a “Hard Core” WvW player can sacrafice the 30 minutes a day it takes to get your daily laurel.

Inso.2195:

By the time ascended jewelry is available for WwW crowd, the Pve folks will have access to ascended armor/weapon.

Most likely.

Actually this seems the way its going to be.

Adding Ascended gear to WvW. Copy + Paste vendor in LA. Drag Delete currency, swap in badge currency already used by items in the WvW vendors.

Isn’t that basically the gist of it?
I mean, you guys basically copied all of Garrison from Queensdale. And then just pasted it 3 times on three diff WvW maps.

Seem pretty talented at it tbh.

DevonCarver.5370:

We are not planning on adding a new currency to handle Ascended items in WvW.

Bring on the purples with badges, thanks, I got 9k I didnt spend yet just waiting! 1k each would be a good price IMO.