Guild Wars 2

Waking up and seeing our border all fortified because of the enemy night cap and knowing they didnt do kitten to get that is one of the reasons i dont even bother logging on anymore (for most of the day anyway)

It is also annoying for the people who likes to upgrade/defend objectives. At the moment theres no point to defend or care about objectives because of auto upgrades.

Add some human interaction so people have to go there to pop the next tier of upgrades. Like i said in another thread, this just promotes lazy play. Cap and leave, it will upgrade anyway.

Empyrium.7058:

It is also annoying for the people who likes to upgrade/defend objectives. At the moment theres no point to defend or care about objectives because of auto upgrades.

It’s also bad for offensive roamers since the defenders aren’t there to fight and no one cares about camps or yaks.

Mitz.5741:

Waking up and seeing our border all fortified because of the enemy night cap and knowing they didnt do kitten to get that is one of the reasons i dont even bother logging on anymore (for most of the day anyway)

The enemy doesn’t have to do anything to get your stuff fortified, but…

• If they didn’t bother to control the camps or protect yaks… their upgrades took 6 hours.
• If they didn’t do the laser event… either of the other teams could have severely damaged these gates.
• If they didn’t bother to repair the laser damage, their gates may be sitting wide open, paper thin, or at 52%.
• If they did repair one laser attack, they may not have any supply to repair another.

Here’s the math: It takes 1 person about 35 minutes to do the laser event solo on an empty map. It takes 1 person almost 2 hours to repair the damage from a single laser to all the fortified gates on the map and requires 4180 supply… basically all the supply in all the keeps and towers.

If auto-upgrades are changed, the laser event needs to be changed as well because the only way to defend your manually upgrade stuff from the laser will be either a) stopping the enemy from completing the laser event or b) spending 4180 supply to fix the damage done. The situation remains the same as it is now with two differences. First, you will hate the laser more for opening up your manually upgraded stuff, and you will hate that you have to spend so much time repairing laser damage. Second, the stuff you don’t bother to upgrade will have wide open doors much sooner. Right now the laser somewhat balances the auto-upgrades… against manual upgrades, it will probably be overpowering because people still won’t want to repair the entire map.

misterdevious.6482:

Mitz.5741:

Waking up and seeing our border all fortified because of the enemy night cap and knowing they didnt do kitten to get that is one of the reasons i dont even bother logging on anymore (for most of the day anyway)

The enemy doesn’t have to do anything to get your stuff fortified, but…

• If they didn’t bother to control the camps or protect yaks… their upgrades took 6 hours.
• If they didn’t do the laser event… either of the other teams could have severely damaged these gates.
• If they didn’t bother to repair the laser damage, their gates may be sitting wide open, paper thin, or at 52%.
• If they did repair one laser attack, they may not have any supply to repair another.

Here’s the math: It takes 1 person about 35 minutes to do the laser event solo on an empty map. It takes 1 person almost 2 hours to repair the damage from a single laser to all the fortified gates on the map and requires 4180 supply… basically all the supply in all the keeps and towers.

If auto-upgrades are changed, the laser event needs to be changed as well because the only way to defend your manually upgrade stuff from the laser will be either a) stopping the enemy from completing the laser event or b) spending 4180 supply to fix the damage done. The situation remains the same as it is now with two differences. First, you will hate the laser more for opening up your manually upgraded stuff, and you will hate that you have to spend so much time repairing laser damage. Second, the stuff you don’t bother to upgrade will have wide open doors much sooner. Right now the laser somewhat balances the auto-upgrades… against manual upgrades, it will probably be overpowering because people still won’t want to repair the entire map.

You need to do the laser event 3 times to fully take down fortified gates. So doing the event as a solo player in the middle of the night (the time frame the op is having a problem with) is waste of time because you can’t solo build the rams before the guards take them out. The only way it is worth doing is if the event pops immediately after everything has flipped and even then it is unlikely that you will be able to get to everything before they upgrade and the gates repair.

With the old map and mechanics 1 player with G catas could flip back their entire map in a couple hours if the dominant server didn’t stick around to upgrade.
If they did stick around you could at least keep things paper by flipping camps and sniping yaks.

Anyway this is a pointless argument because auto upgrades an the laser are both terrible for WvW. I don’t care how 1 would be too strong without the other, they both need to go.

Your math are wrong, because no one will take 2H to repair all the gate…. Free T3 mean that you don’t care about, and if ennemy use the canon it’s more easier to just loose the keep, and then take it back… less job, more rewards…