Guild Wars 2

Currently as far as i remember anyhow only necros and guardians can avoid dying when falling from great heights. Necros will however lose all of their lifeforce and spend ds cooldown, and guardians need a target and specific utility to pull it off.

Should this be allowed for other classes too? As in should people be able to use teleport skills while in air?

It would partialy defeat the purpose of reduced fall damage traits and it would definately make cliffs much less of a threat, but would it be all that bad in the end?
Discuss.

If all classes had the same abilities, we’d only need one class.

It’s stupid that Necros can completely negate fall damage.

It’s one of their only escape ability.

Give them a break.

Intigo.1653:

It’s stupid that Necros can completely negate fall damage.

In that case it’s stupid that Ele’s can avoid any damage with invulnerability, or move 2400 range near instantly, or heal from almost 0 to full also near instantly while Necro can’t do anything like that.

Oh dear. Here we go again. And this time it’s about fall damage of all things.

So necromancer have one nearly unique ability with their class mecanism, and it should be removed because other don’t have it?

What’s the meaning of it?

One of the only way a necromancer can run from a fight, is with this ability.

@Intigo

Would you trade your RTL for the ability to DS/fall ??

I’m sure necromancer would be happy to trade it.

umm… portal…

Actually, Necros have 2 ways to prevent fall deaths. DS and Spectral Walk. I’d gladly replace preventing fall damage for better stunbreaks, invulnerability, confusion, DPS, vigor, stability, stealth, combo finishers, minion AI……

I see it more as an interesting quirk of teleporting to learn. ( the guardian effect takes a little bit of good timing )
Either way it rarely has any utility other than to jump off fort walls and straight into melee range without stumbling

Hmm they still die when I push them off the cliff.

I propably should have phrased the question better as people seem to take it the wrong way. Personaly i love this kind of little quirks, and would love to see more of them. What i meant to do was to start a discussion if there should be more this kind of little tricks (for example allowing all teleport spells to be cast while in air)

Swamurabi.7890:

Actually, Necros have 2 ways to prevent fall deaths. DS and Spectral Walk. I’d gladly replace preventing fall damage for better stunbreaks, invulnerability, confusion, DPS, vigor, stability, stealth, combo finishers, minion AI……

or any other tool we don’t have that is much more useful than getting rid of fall damage?

dank.3680:

Intigo.1653:

It’s stupid that Necros can completely negate fall damage.

In that case it’s stupid that Ele’s can avoid any damage with invulnerability, or move 2400 range near instantly, or heal from almost 0 to full also near instantly while Necro can’t do anything like that.

Man, if only invulnerability worked for fall damage. I feel even worse when all the other classes run past my corpse.

I see a lot of misinformed people on this thread. You can’t prevent death with DS, if a fall would originally take all of your HP you will still die if you fall while using DS, the only time DS is used is if the fall won’t originally kill you, therefore it will take away the actual lost HP from DS from the fall.

Zogyark.4597:

I see a lot of misinformed people on this thread. You can’t prevent death with DS, if a fall would originally take all of your HP you will still die if you fall while using DS, the only time DS is used is if the fall won’t originally kill you, therefore it will take away the actual lost HP from DS from the fall.

Your poor necro hasn´t seen muhc playtime has he?
You can most definately fall any height and survive with ds, tested it right now.

Strang.8170:

Zogyark.4597:

I see a lot of misinformed people on this thread. You can’t prevent death with DS, if a fall would originally take all of your HP you will still die if you fall while using DS, the only time DS is used is if the fall won’t originally kill you, therefore it will take away the actual lost HP from DS from the fall.

Your poor necro hasn´t seen muhc playtime has he?
You can most definately fall any height and survive with ds, tested it right now.

Must be a new bug then, did you activate DS after the jump or right before you hit the ground?

Zogyark.4597:

Strang.8170:

Zogyark.4597:

I see a lot of misinformed people on this thread. You can’t prevent death with DS, if a fall would originally take all of your HP you will still die if you fall while using DS, the only time DS is used is if the fall won’t originally kill you, therefore it will take away the actual lost HP from DS from the fall.

Your poor necro hasn´t seen muhc playtime has he?
You can most definately fall any height and survive with ds, tested it right now.

Must be a new bug then, did you activate DS after the jump or right before you hit the ground?

its not new and not a bug.
you can activate DS right before you hit the ground.

DS has its own “HP pool” which does not roll over to the necro’s actual hp pool.
if the necro is down to 1k hp and uses DS all the dmg taken until DS hp is gone will have 0 effect on the necro’s HP.

Well kitten, I guess all those times I tried using DS to prevent falling damage and dying were in vain. That’s pretty cool I’ll try it out later.

Brando.1374:

Zogyark.4597:

Strang.8170:

Zogyark.4597:

I see a lot of misinformed people on this thread. You can’t prevent death with DS, if a fall would originally take all of your HP you will still die if you fall while using DS, the only time DS is used is if the fall won’t originally kill you, therefore it will take away the actual lost HP from DS from the fall.

Your poor necro hasn´t seen muhc playtime has he?
You can most definately fall any height and survive with ds, tested it right now.

Must be a new bug then, did you activate DS after the jump or right before you hit the ground?

its not new and not a bug.
you can activate DS right before you hit the ground.

DS has its own “HP pool” which does not roll over to the necro’s actual hp pool.
if the necro is down to 1k hp and uses DS all the dmg taken until DS hp is gone will have 0 effect on the necro’s HP.

You will die if you activate DS though right after you jump?

Zogyark.4597:

Well kitten, I guess all those times I tried using DS to prevent falling damage and dying were in vain. That’s pretty cool I’ll try it out later.

Its fun because I was able to get an enemy to follow me off a cliff once since he saw I survived lol

Zogyark.4597:

Brando.1374:

Zogyark.4597:

Strang.8170:

Zogyark.4597:

I see a lot of misinformed people on this thread. You can’t prevent death with DS, if a fall would originally take all of your HP you will still die if you fall while using DS, the only time DS is used is if the fall won’t originally kill you, therefore it will take away the actual lost HP from DS from the fall.

Your poor necro hasn´t seen muhc playtime has he?
You can most definately fall any height and survive with ds, tested it right now.

Must be a new bug then, did you activate DS after the jump or right before you hit the ground?

its not new and not a bug.
you can activate DS right before you hit the ground.

DS has its own “HP pool” which does not roll over to the necro’s actual hp pool.
if the necro is down to 1k hp and uses DS all the dmg taken until DS hp is gone will have 0 effect on the necro’s HP.

You will die if you activate DS though right after you jump?

nope. I have activated it while on the cliff, in mid fall and a sec before I hit the ground.

Brando.1374:

Zogyark.4597:

Well kitten, I guess all those times I tried using DS to prevent falling damage and dying were in vain. That’s pretty cool I’ll try it out later.

Its fun because I was able to get an enemy to follow me off a cliff once since he saw I survived lol

haha /dance emote. I tell you though I’ve died while in DS from a jump before, I know I’m not crazy.

Zogyark.4597:

Brando.1374:

Zogyark.4597:

Well kitten, I guess all those times I tried using DS to prevent falling damage and dying were in vain. That’s pretty cool I’ll try it out later.

Its fun because I was able to get an enemy to follow me off a cliff once since he saw I survived lol

haha /dance emote. I tell you though I’ve died while in DS from a jump before, I know I’m not crazy.

are you sure you where still in DS form when you hit the ground?

Brando.1374:

Zogyark.4597:

Brando.1374:

Zogyark.4597:

Well kitten, I guess all those times I tried using DS to prevent falling damage and dying were in vain. That’s pretty cool I’ll try it out later.

Its fun because I was able to get an enemy to follow me off a cliff once since he saw I survived lol

haha /dance emote. I tell you though I’ve died while in DS from a jump before, I know I’m not crazy.

are you sure you where still in DS form when you hit the ground?

Yes, there was even a thread in the necro forums about good uses of DS and we discussed how it’s good for taking fall damage but also discussed how it sucked it wouldn’t save your life if the fall was too high, that’s why I said it’s something new, most likely when the % from the soul reaping trait was adjusted.

About if it’s new, it was like this in the first betas, and then got removed before the game went live. Only some time ago it began to work again and I’m not even sure when it happened, myself I discovered it pretty late too.

Hard to say if intended or not or Arenanet is just undecided, but indeed with all the eles and mesmers and thieves running around I’m happy that necro has at least one troll ability :p

Zogyark.4597:

Brando.1374:

Zogyark.4597:

Brando.1374:

Zogyark.4597:

Well kitten, I guess all those times I tried using DS to prevent falling damage and dying were in vain. That’s pretty cool I’ll try it out later.

Its fun because I was able to get an enemy to follow me off a cliff once since he saw I survived lol

haha /dance emote. I tell you though I’ve died while in DS from a jump before, I know I’m not crazy.

are you sure you where still in DS form when you hit the ground?

Yes, there was even a thread in the necro forums about good uses of DS and we discussed how it’s good for taking fall damage but also discussed how it sucked it wouldn’t save your life if the fall was too high, that’s why I said it’s something new, most likely when the % from the soul reaping trait was adjusted.

well so far I have not Died / taken dmg from falling while in DS
when i get home ill look for the tallest cliff and jump off it

Well it’s confirmed by phoebe that it’s new so yea only old school necros will remember dying in DS and being sad, on the other hand enjoy it because it sure will get nerfed. Anet loves necros, just like when they said going in lich form and losing your minions was a bug that they would fix, then another dev said that its working as intended.

I only found the skill/bug this week and ive jumped from heights that would certainly have killed me and survived.

Been using it on a daily basis since to take shortcuts.

Longest fall in the game I’ve found is from the vista in Mount Maelstrom. Hitting the lava will not save you…lol. Would love to see a video of that one.

you would think that an ele’s mist form would land softly on the pavement below, but no……just, no……sucks poppin mist form goin off the edge to avoid the zerg and dying to fall damage -_- but atleast i can still go through doors from downed state XD

Parktou.4263:

you would think that an ele’s mist form would land softly on the pavement below, but no……just, no……sucks poppin mist form goin off the edge to avoid the zerg and dying to fall damage -_- but atleast i can still go through doors from downed state XD

One of the first things I tried when I got Mist Form… though “ooh, mist surely can’t take fall damage!”.

Splat.

Not sure if this was mentioned yet (I am lazy and didnt want to read all the “this class is too powerful, mine is too weak” stuff).

Warrior trait “Death from Above” gives you 50% fall damage. I use it all the time to take routes most others do not.

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

Not sure if this was mentioned yet (I am lazy and didnt want to read all the “this class is too powerful, mine is too weak” stuff).

Warrior trait “Death from Above” gives you 50% fall damage. I use it all the time to take routes most others do not.

As a matter of fact, all classes have that trait in different ways.