I had over 6k badges and I’m now down to 78 just from buying scrolls with Proof’s of Heroic’s.
Now, I obviously understand this is my own fault for buying so many but besides that point – 6k badges coming from someone who does WvW something like 8+ hours a day is not a lot… I shouldn’t be able to burn through my life’s savings that easily with so much time invested in WvW and neither should anyone else.
I really think badge awards need to be improved a bit to keep things like this from happening. It’s kind of ridiculous that I only had a little over 1k badges more than my WvW rank itself and I don’t even spend those badges very often.
Anyone else agree that the drop needs to be buffed a bit or am I alone on this?
I actually agree to this as well. As a form of currency this area of the game, Badges of Honor has produced the fewest in my book.
More and more items have been introduced to WvW and uses BoH as an alternative means of gold for those, like us, primarily plays in World vs World. I can generate gold that much more faster than Badges in an hour without even trying.
I believe a few months ago they nerfed badge drop rates from player kills, supervisors, Lords (Tower, Keep, Castle), etc.
With the introduction of the Heroics Notary NPC, once you’ve actually acquired your PvE Hero Points and you’re left with thousands of Proofs of Heroics, the only sink for the Proofs are used to buy sieges with Badges of Honor. One superior Shield Generator Blueprint costs 48, yes 48, Badges of Honor. Superior Treb costs 60 badges, wow, SIXTY! There’s no way I can acquire that much badges to match my Proofs of Heroics flow. IMPOSSIBLE.
Even without hero points and siege, the rate needs to increase. One defense can easily cost me 90+ Badges of Heroics in disablers and supply traps, not counting w/e siege I put down. Meanwhile, defending rewards ZERO Badges unless large sums of enemies are killed. That means that the most common scenario, massively outnumbered defense, is not sustainable whatsoever. Even when an allied zerg shows up to fight, I’m often pretty removed from the field of battle repairing things or killing enemy siege or otherwise ensuring that they can’t resume their assault.
what exatly are you using all your badges for ? i have like 30k sitting around, i already have elite spec on 7/9 chars and the other two i dont even care about
are you upgrade siege to sell ? i tried it once with a few thousand badges, but its the most boring and unrewarding thing ever, i rather run in circle in sw for an hour then standing infront of the mf
i am still disapointed that with HoT we didnt get new rewards that you can buy with badges, maybe next year…
Disablers/supply traps are 15 badges each. That’s 8-15 objective captures or 1.5 wxp lvls or dailies. I also used them to buy siege but that’s sort of not feasible now.
I agree, my proof of heroics are just stacking up. I buy siege with them since my hero points are full, but if I run another character in WvW and use the badges/proof of heroics to buy hero points with, I never have enough badges for anything else no matter how much I grind, and when I grind the proof of heroics just stack up. Maybe if you can use proof of heroics for something that doesn’t require badges, or lower the badge count for purchases also it would make sense.
I have over 30 million karma in which I’ve never had to karma farm.
I have over 2k gold in inventory in which I’ve never had to farm for gold and I have all my Legendaries that I wanted.
I have 7800 Badges of Honor remaining after buying my HP scrolls from initial 15k pool.
My primary game mode is WvW / EoTM. Some people even say that I live in wvw.
I have over 2k Proofs of Heroics and all the sieges I need currently. If I buy more siege from the Notary NPC my badges will deplete very rapidly. There isn’t an equilibrium in badge drop rate versus proof of heroic drop rate. If badges were more and proofs were less then it works, but right now there’s a massive influx of Proofs that I need to get rid of. One or more things need to happen:
1. Increase Badges of Honor drop rate and keep Proof of Heroic drop rate the same.
2. Decrease Proof of Heroic drop rate while maintaining Badges of Honor drop rate.
3. Add new vendor items to help deplete Proofs of Heroics (gold + Proofs vs badges + Proofs)
4. Lowering the cost of Badges requirement per purchase in current vendor list.
5. Make Proof of Heroics either soul-bound currency (much like individual Hero Points only tied to character) or account-bound currency.
6. I might have missed something.
7. I think I also might have missed another point.
8. Anet needs to fix it.
Did they increase the proof of heroic drops with the chests?
I used to get 2-4, and Saturday night I was getting 8 per chest on the three chests I opened. This would have been nice prior to jungling my way through getting my elite specs.
Anyway why do the superior siege blueprints require so many badges?
Superior Arrow Cart, Flame Ram, & Ballista : 3 Proof of Heroics + 15 Badge of Honor
Superior Catapult Blueprints: 6 Proof of Heroics + 30 Badge of Honor
Superior shield generator: 4 Proof of Heroics + 48 Badge of Honor —> 48?
Superior trebuchet: 12 Proof of Heroics + 60 Badge of Honor ---> 60? really now.
I don’t think Arenanet realizes how much siege is used just for one WvW rank. If you relied on the WvW rank at best you’d get a treb every 2 levels
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Yeah, the cost for superior siege is pretty crazy. I think they might be hoping to incentivize using guild siege since their master plan is to make WvW more guild focused. Unfortunately, the cost of making guild siege is also a punch in the gut.
What seems really strange, though, is that it costs less badges to buy 2 regular blueprints and make a superior blueprint in the forge…then it also costs proofs of heroics. What, exactly, is the benefit?
Yeah, the cost for superior siege is pretty crazy. I think they might be hoping to incentivize using guild siege since their master plan is to make WvW more guild focused. Unfortunately, the cost of making guild siege is also a punch in the gut.
What seems really strange, though, is that it costs less badges to buy 2 regular blueprints and make a superior blueprint in the forge…then it also costs proofs of heroics. What, exactly, is the benefit?
benefit is , no mats (mithril/wood) and shards of …. whatever needed, which no one really cares , but hey , you saved a few silver and some shards
I agree that the drop rates need to change. I’d be fine if they brought back down the rate of the hero point things, but I can’t accept having literally useless currency..
Can’t spend the proofs of heroics on superior siege because I don’t have enough badges. And still have to buy siege disables and supply removal traps and normal siege, which drains my badges even more.
Soon I will end up with tons of stacks of unspendable proofs.
Yeah, the cost for superior siege is pretty crazy. I think they might be hoping to incentivize using guild siege since their master plan is to make WvW more guild focused. Unfortunately, the cost of making guild siege is also a punch in the gut.
What seems really strange, though, is that it costs less badges to buy 2 regular blueprints and make a superior blueprint in the forge…then it also costs proofs of heroics. What, exactly, is the benefit?
Mostly just speed. Converting badges to any other currency is far too tedious and not worth the time.
The TP is quite expensive at 16s a piece and forging siege is just not a fun thing to do. Even having bought a stack of siege guides in advance and having a mystic conduit so I can do it anywhere, it’s still very annoying. Plus Elder Wood is rather pricey now and a lot of it is needed for crafting ascended weapons.
Anyhow, my badges are definitely steadily dropping instead of steadily growing as it did in the past. I have around 4k badges left so it won’t be a problem for a while. Granted I’m near an acihevement chest which will also give more badges— kinda sad if you ask me when an AP chest is a better source. I’m just not earning many badges outside of daily chests, and opening those chests is its own problem because that “wastes” the xp boost. I just opened 3 wvw chests on my ele by accident because I thought they were pve chests, and now I sorta just shelved her away until i can play WvW again. =p
For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards,
for there you have been and there you will long to return.
They’ve completely stopped replying to WvW posts and frustrates me to death!
Havent seen one red post that recognizes there needs to be change or atleast say “we are looking into it” since HoT was out.
Hope these ANET guys spend $100 and get crappy customer service, see how they will like it.
And yes- i live in an asian country so $100 is a big thing for me!!
I used almost all my badges buying proofs and they were never refunded when they changed it either. Now, the drops are so slow it’s horrible to try to get them built up. Please fix this, ANet!!!
I think a thing everybody here has not on the table yet, is the cost of Scribing paid in Badges. That’s where most of my Badge supply went the past months.
Not counting the Tavern upgrades, you need around 300 Badges of Tribute to unlock all upgrades in the War Room. That translates to 9000 Badges of Tribute.
Each Tactic or Improvement you create costs 1-2 Tribute Badges.
Each Mist Statue decoration cost 100 Tribute Badges (= 3000 Badges of Honor !!!)
Yes, we need some genera increase in Badges or at least a closer look at the Provisions Master ability, which does not increase the amount of my Badges I get a lot (?).
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What I read from some of these posts is anet continues to support, encourage, and drive home the blob meta by nuking drop rates for anything else and increasing siege costs so only blob fights are “affordable”.
Anet is thinking about introducing new siege and yet is not fixing the core problem, thus basically guaranteeing their fail in a follow up poll.
At least now I have a clearer view on what killed the WvW guild I have fun with each week. It is not economical to be a small havoc guild. And since we hate the blob meta… No badge income.
I think a thing everybody here has not on the table yet, is the cost of Scribing paid in Badges. That’s where most of my Badge supply went the past months.
Not counting the Tavern upgrades, you need around 300 Badges of Tribute to unlock all upgrades in the War Room. That translates to 9000 Badges of Tribute.
Each Tactic or Improvement you create costs 1-2 Tribute Badges.
Each Mist Statue decoration cost 100 Tribute Badges (= 3000 Badges of Honor !!!)
Yes, we need some genera increase in Badges or at least a closer look at the Provisions Master ability, which does not increase the amount of my Badges I get a lot (?).
I’m a bit confused about this post. It takes 300 badges of tribute, so 9000 (/breaks glass) badges of honor are needed right? And each decoration is 100 tribute badges meaning 3000 Boh?
If it’s only 400 BoT total, then consider buying them on the TP. It would amount to around 130 gold and more reliable than attempting to farm badges.
That being said, the badge drop rate is highly unreliable.
What I read from some of these posts is anet continues to support, encourage, and drive home the blob meta by nuking drop rates for anything else and increasing siege costs so only blob fights are “affordable”.
Anet is thinking about introducing new siege and yet is not fixing the core problem, thus basically guaranteeing their fail in a follow up poll.
At least now I have a clearer view on what killed the WvW guild I have fun with each week. It is not economical to be a small havoc guild. And since we hate the blob meta… No badge income.
Thanks, anet.
This is an old thread. Superior siege only requires heroics, not badges anymore. Regular siege only is around 70c on the TP leaving badges only to really get disablers, traps, and badges of tribute.
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Yes, a friend of mine bumped it who thinks that the badges still need to be buffed. And although I don’t feel as strongly about it as I did when I initially made this thread, I do still feel that the income is rather low.
It’s nice that they made changes to how purchasing items work which has made spending BoH a little less of a frightening concept. Still, I have a hard time building them up as I’m often using them on “traps and tricks” and /// am not getting enough income to support those purchases on a regular basis.
But for those who disagree, I can understand why. Not everyone spends their Badges Of Honor as often as I do so it’s a little bit my fault and a little bit ANet’s for giving us so few.
Yes, a friend of mine bumped it who thinks that the badges still need to be buffed. And although I don’t feel as strongly about it as I did when I initially made this thread, I do still feel that the income is rather low.
It’s nice that they made changes to how purchasing items work which has made spending BoH a little less of a frightening concept. Still, I have a hard time building them up as I’m often using them on “traps and tricks” and /// am not getting enough income to support those purchases on a regular basis.
But for those who disagree, I can understand why. Not everyone spends their Badges Of Honor as often as I do so it’s a little bit my fault and a little bit ANet’s for giving us so few.
Well, I have to admit I very rarely bother with supply traps and usually use the ones I get for free from, what I think is rank up chests. Usually I deploy them when we probably can’t hold anything for long and can only waste their time. I don’t like how they go away if I switch maps. As for disablers, I usually wait for big spender daily, and then spend it on a few; the chest gives some of the badges back. I have a good amount on each character I play often.
Side note for some that may pve in HoT maps a bit: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ley-Energy_Matter_Converter has frequently sold Box of WvW supplies which contains blueprints and food. It’s been appearing a bit lately, so I’ve been getting those as well. (Including Today). The map currencies are by and large incredibly expendable so that I think is a good purchase.
For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards,
for there you have been and there you will long to return.
Yes, a friend of mine bumped it who thinks that the badges still need to be buffed. And although I don’t feel as strongly about it as I did when I initially made this thread, I do still feel that the income is rather low.
It’s nice that they made changes to how purchasing items work which has made spending BoH a little less of a frightening concept. Still, I have a hard time building them up as I’m often using them on “traps and tricks” and /// am not getting enough income to support those purchases on a regular basis.
But for those who disagree, I can understand why. Not everyone spends their Badges Of Honor as often as I do so it’s a little bit my fault and a little bit ANet’s for giving us so few.
Well, I have to admit I very rarely bother with supply traps and usually use the ones I get for free from, what I think is rank up chests. Usually I deploy them when we probably can’t hold anything for long and can only waste their time. I don’t like how they go away if I switch maps. As for disablers, I usually wait for big spender daily, and then spend it on a few; the chest gives some of the badges back. I have a good amount on each character I play often.
Side note for some that may pve in HoT maps a bit: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ley-Energy_Matter_Converter has frequently sold Box of WvW supplies which contains blueprints and food. It’s been appearing a bit lately, so I’ve been getting those as well. (Including Today). The map currencies are by and large incredibly expendable so that I think is a good purchase.
I am constantly buying tricks and traps. I use Stealth Traps shamelessly on Thieves and Mesmers, I troll zergs with Supply Traps by dropping them behind them near supply camps for when they retrace their steps and of course Siege Disablers are just useful everywhere, really. I run out of all 3 of them monthly and I stock up on about 30 each. Every time I re-stock I pretty much deplete my Badges.
So again, I understand it’s very much my own fault for spending so much but at the same time, I feel the badge drops could be a little more generous. I’m currently at 845 because I recently re-stocked.
I’ve never had this many BoH until the buff to their drop rate from player kills. Literally overflowing with them now.
Problably because you never use them. I know a lot of people who say they have too many BoH but they only use them to buy somenthing for big spender daily or to buy some food from pocket provisioner.
5 pips increases the amount of badges of honor you get from fallen foes. It takes a total of 45 rank points spent on it. Basically, you need to rank up 45 times and spend those points on Provisions Master.
I don’t know how much of an increase it would be since I’m currently at 4 pips in it and working on gaining a few more points to unlock it.
I’ve never had this many BoH until the buff to their drop rate from player kills. Literally overflowing with them now.
Problably because you never use them. I know a lot of people who say they have too many BoH but they only use them to buy somenthing for big spender daily or to buy some food from pocket provisioner.
Nope. I’ve probably used 20-30k~ of them in the past 3 months. They’re just super easy to get now with the massive buff on BoH drop on player kill. Sometimes get 4 a kill.
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Yes, a friend of mine bumped it who thinks that the badges still need to be buffed. And although I don’t feel as strongly about it as I did when I initially made this thread, I do still feel that the income is rather low.
It’s nice that they made changes to how purchasing items work which has made spending BoH a little less of a frightening concept. Still, I have a hard time building them up as I’m often using them on “traps and tricks” and /// am not getting enough income to support those purchases on a regular basis.
But for those who disagree, I can understand why. Not everyone spends their Badges Of Honor as often as I do so it’s a little bit my fault and a little bit ANet’s for giving us so few.
Well, I have to admit I very rarely bother with supply traps and usually use the ones I get for free from, what I think is rank up chests. Usually I deploy them when we probably can’t hold anything for long and can only waste their time. I don’t like how they go away if I switch maps. As for disablers, I usually wait for big spender daily, and then spend it on a few; the chest gives some of the badges back. I have a good amount on each character I play often.
Side note for some that may pve in HoT maps a bit: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ley-Energy_Matter_Converter has frequently sold Box of WvW supplies which contains blueprints and food. It’s been appearing a bit lately, so I’ve been getting those as well. (Including Today). The map currencies are by and large incredibly expendable so that I think is a good purchase.
I am constantly buying tricks and traps. I use Stealth Traps shamelessly on Thieves and Mesmers, I troll zergs with Supply Traps by dropping them behind them near supply camps for when they retrace their steps and of course Siege Disablers are just useful everywhere, really. I run out of all 3 of them monthly and I stock up on about 30 each. Every time I re-stock I pretty much deplete my Badges.
So again, I understand it’s very much my own fault for spending so much but at the same time, I feel the badge drops could be a little more generous. I’m currently at 845 because I recently re-stocked.
800’ish isn’t really too bad. I’m at 3k currently which isn’t that much I suppose considering I don’t spend many badges. I’d start getting a bit troubled at 200-300.
Though I suppose infusions also cost quite a few badges especially if you’re passing them to all your characters. Especially if the game decides to mess with them.
That’d cost me about 2k badges….
Oh, as an aside, do note if you can buy and sell badges of tribute. If you can sell them you’d get ~85c a badge after TP fees. So for example, if the provisioner food doesn’t cost more than 85×5 (4.25 silver) to buy normally, it won’t be worth it unless you need it immediately. This also means that most regular siege prints aren’t worth the badges either and you’re better off TPing them.
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I tend to go through 10 to 20 siege disablers a day when I play for any decent amount of time. I throw siege like crazy all week too so I’ve had to start buying that off the TP. Stuff gets expensive and there just aren’t enough badges to go around.
I tend to go through 10 to 20 siege disablers a day when I play for any decent amount of time. I throw siege like crazy all week too so I’ve had to start buying that off the TP. Stuff gets expensive and there just aren’t enough badges to go around.
Yes, anything but catas and trebs is way cheaper off the TP. You can argue that no one should be “forced” to buy this stuff from other players but in that case you’ll have the EotM problem again: people get massive amounts of badges and have no use for it.
I usually only buy siege disablers for badges and they’re mostly my “Big Spender” – I get that to some this can become a problem but mabe just lower the badge-cost for them instead of adding more badges to the game.
I’m a bit confused about this post. It takes 300 badges of tribute, so 9000 (/breaks glass) badges of honor are needed right? And each decoration is 100 tribute badges meaning 3000 Boh?
If it’s only 400 BoT total, then consider buying them on the TP. It would amount to around 130 gold and more reliable than attempting to farm badges.
1 Tribute Badge = 30 Badges of Honor
War Room => unlocks are around 9000 Badges of Honour
One single Mist Statue needs 100 Tribute Badges = 3000 Badges of Honor
I hope that makes it more clear now.
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Yes, anything but catas and trebs is way cheaper off the TP. You can argue that no one should be “forced” to buy this stuff from other players but in that case you’ll have the EotM problem again: people get massive amounts of badges and have no use for it.
Out of curiosity, does EotM still throw badges at players like candy? If so, I’d like to see badge awards be normalized in EotM and WvW, whether it be at the high or low end or somewhere in the middle.
Out of curiosity, does EotM still throw badges at players like candy? If so, I’d like to see badge awards be normalized in EotM and WvW, whether it be at the high or low end or somewhere in the middle.
No, have been decreased to wvw level a while ago (with HoT?) – but I haven’t been in EotM for about 2 years, so I don’t know how that worked out (maybe the badge gain is different because EotM and wvw are different modes).
Out of curiosity, does EotM still throw badges at players like candy? If so, I’d like to see badge awards be normalized in EotM and WvW, whether it be at the high or low end or somewhere in the middle.
No, have been decreased to wvw level a while ago (with HoT?) – but I haven’t been in EotM for about 2 years, so I don’t know how that worked out (maybe the badge gain is different because EotM and wvw are different modes).
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