Guild Wars 2

Should Arenanet bring back bannering the Lord?

In light of the new, tough Lords on red borderland, would this even be fair?

Gunnar’s Hold had many wonderful times repeatedly bannering the Lord at garrison. I wonder if others remember similar times so fondly?

In a word: no. Besides that, there are way more important things the WvW devs need to work on than this.

Yes
That was too much fun and helped the smaller group.

seabhac.5346:

there are way more important things the WvW devs need to work on than this.

Such as PvE and the new expansion.

Anything but WvW!

Buy Some Apples.6390:

seabhac.5346:

there are way more important things the WvW devs need to work on than this.

Such as PvE and the new expansion.

Anything but WvW!

Or cannons!

I’ve watched these forums since the game launched and I never saw anybody ask for cannons!

Did I miss this?

Jana.6831:

Yes
That was too much fun and helped the smaller group.

Just to point out I’ve seen it help both ways. Been in groups where 10 of us taken out 20 defenders, and they keep running in 1 and 1 to banner the lord, until eventually we’re down a few, and the remaining 20 can push in and kill.

Just can’t say it is something that will help only the smaller group.

(Got mixed feelings on banner lords, no real opinion one way or another)

Anything that help a smaller group normally will help a larger group more.

SMC would never flip.

~ Kovu

I think bannering the lord is a crutch… while it WAS fun (I mained a hammerstun war for STUN for the first 2 years) I just can’t see this being a good idea. With the Lord’s health improvement and break bars, I don’t think giving him a on demand rez is beneficial.

My definition of it being fun is more in terms of trolling. It’s not a healthy move but that’s just my humble opinion.

In first matchup of first WvW tournament, there was a moment when Seafarer’s Rest EBG Keep (green) was double-team sieged by both Vizunah Square and Piken Square working together, Vizu attacking from north-eastern gate, Piken attacking from broken wall Jerrifer side. Both sides had at least 5 Arrow Carts, but SFR was still able to banner-rezzing Keep Lord for more than 1,5 hours, until our commander told us to stop it, let them cap our Keep, and regroup in homeborder to do something else.

From this point of view, I think bringing back banner-rezzing is not a good idea, otherwise any Keep/Garrison can probably be flipped only in ghostcap night-time (or if defenders are greatly outnumbered) scenario, not even mention Stonemist Castle. So there is a real possibility that no one will even try to attack any Keep, so WvW will become more boring and with less fights.

-just my personal opinion

People got salty the lord was being bannered. Made it too hard to take an objective.

WvW is EotM.

sephiroth.4217:

People got salty the lord was being bannered. Made it too hard to take an objective.

WvW is EotM.

It’s natural to want to take the path of least resistance. WvW should be about beating defenders and all their clever tools. Sadly, these tools are a dwindling assortment consisting of arrow carts and more arrow carts.

I think the banner would give us more fun. THAT is why I propose bringing it back.

Make Banners Hold great again.

I don’t think it’s really a good idea now they have improved the scaling so lords don’t instantly melt anymore. However I would like for the generic keep lords get a few more attacks like the desert Borderlands lords so they’re not to be taken lightly even if you outnumber the defenders.

Though I guess you could bring in the downed state and allow bannering or other revive utilities to get them up under that circumstance, like they did with the foefire lords in PvP.

They should make it so that res skills affect all NPCs bar the tower/keep lords. Camps I am unsure of but if your wasting a skill slot on a revive skill, it should have some functionallity even without friendlies around.

Against a zerg, pointless. Against a havok group and it could make all the difference.

The way they scale now compared to no scaling back then, even the karma trains would die out… :/

It takes upwards of 30 minutes to kill the lord in SMC if defenders are flowing in. If uncontested, only 2 – 3 minutes but still, that sucker takes a lot of effort to bring down. So much so that I often see people building flame rams to help with depleting his breakbar.

If he were to suddenly get banner revived back to what is it, like 30 – 50% health? I would be unhappy. And I’m sure many others would feel the same, especially in those matches where SMC is all but unconquerable for the smaller servers.

It would only work if they nerf lords back to the old system.
SMC lord used to have around 230k health and no scaling.

Svarty.8019:

sephiroth.4217:

People got salty the lord was being bannered. Made it too hard to take an objective.

WvW is EotM.

It’s natural to want to take the path of least resistance. WvW should be about beating defenders and all their clever tools. Sadly, these tools are a dwindling assortment consisting of arrow carts and more arrow carts.

I think the banner would give us more fun. THAT is why I propose bringing it back.

I’m 100% for the bannering of lords.