Guild Wars 2

As you know, we spaniards, named the guerrilla warfare, by means of this tactic (and others) we hit the top 6 last week even with a population much lower than other servers.
Our peak hours are quite different to other european countries, in fact we have lunch and dinner 3 hours later than other neighbour countries. If we had a couple of strong guilds at the usual “european peak hours” we would hit the top 3 for sure, so if your guild is thinking about moving to a new server just think on us.
Participate in the real guerrilla warfare in WvW at Baruch!!!

Regards,

Haltair

75% of the time that I participate in MvM I get an interesting buff that says I am outnumbered.
I agree with the fact that in our peak hours (as I said they are different to other countries) we gather equal numbers or perhaps even more. But, most of the time I get interesting Karma & other bonuses fighting in a guerrilla warfare against huge zergs.
So yes, I agree with you, plenty of population at our peak hours, we encourage guilds to play with us at “other” continental hours.

Regards,

Haltair

Then you must have a lot of PvE population because you hit the “High server” mark quite a while a go.

Baruch didnt got a lower pop than the other T3 / T2 Server.

And Dinner 3 hour later isnt the reason for your standings. You have got People from South America that supports your Night Shift. its just another Story of Time Spread and A nets WvW Designe.

“you hit the “High server” mark quite a while a go.”

If you check the queues curves of the 3 servers in the t2 (Elona, Arborstone and Baruch) you will realize that our queue is much lower, Elona gets queues around 500 players, Arborstone 350 and Baruch 250. These differences are huge in some hours.
So, you can be “high server” with 500 players in queue or with 250, that´s a big difference in population, not for the peak hours, for the others…

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Queue-size-data-from-9-14-to-9-18-EU/first#post200083

Regards,

Haltair

Dropper.9176:

You have got People from South America that supports your Night Shift.

Hahahaha…You know our server better than us, isn´t it?
I do not know even one guild from south america, mate.
Probably they are playing in the american servers…
In any case, it is a good idea. From now on, south american guilds are more than welcomed!!!
Thanks mate,

Haltair

@ Haltair

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/4

please scroll down , have a look at the Income Evolution and check your Server in the last 2 following Nights. And even the Nights before , the NIGHt is your strong Time , that m,eans PVD

Thats where you got your points from , not the better " guerilla Warfare " or your Dining Time.

Dropper.9176:

And even the Nights before , the NIGHt is your strong Time .

Many guilds gather from 11pm to 2 am, just because our dinner time is at 10-11pm.
Yes, we play during the nights, our timetable is different to other countries, and if we get guilds for the “continental” peak hours we will hit top 3.
We are not the kind of server that conquers everything from 7 am to noon when the maps are almost empty…

Regards,

Haltair

Dropper.9176:

So just say to yourself you are the inventors of Guerilla Warfare

He didn’t say they invented guerrilla warfare, just that the name comes from Spanish language.

And nightcapping is a guerrilla warfare.

Either way, his server is T2 fair and square. They didn’t set the rules, ANet did.

@Haltair

I’m sorry to tell you, that those queue-times are now 2 month old and they changed alot.

Ahah, you bad south american nightcappers !
Cheers from the infamous afro canadian server, hope we’ll get to fight you some day.
Wish you the best in your recruting.

@ lanervan,

I didnt want to insult the Spanish people or claim that they are using "irregular " Tactics.
Night Capping is a Part of A nets Wvw System ( Said that before) and i am aware the Fact that this Thread is some kind of A Commercial to attract people , to come to Baruch ( which is ok either)

But I just cant agree on Haltairs explanations because they creat an Image of Baruchs previous Matchups and Current Situation which just isnt True.

Dropper.9176:

But I just cant agree on Haltairs explanations because they creat an Image of Baruchs previous Matchups and Current Situation which just isnt True.

My explanations are based in playing in Baruch, come for some weeks and make your appointment, meanwhile you just disagree without base…
Yep, the graphics are from some weeks ago, but we do not have nothing better to compare, and talking frankly, for these 3 servers I do not think that populations have changed strongly…

Regards,

Haltair

On arborstone we had almost 2 hours of queue at prime time and always had to wait for a few minute to get on any map when we weren’t on prime time, exept AFTER 2am. Almost never had the outmanned buff until we got to T1, but only during the night and sometimes in the morning.
Now we have got the outmanned buff a big part of the day on every map, even on eternal battlefield, untill 5pm, sometimes a little more and no queue, exept during prime time, but only on the maps where our big guilds play. That mean, no queue in prime time on eternal battlefield.

So yes, our population have changed very strongly. I will give you a little tips to help you check this by yourself, select any player of Arborstone between midnight and 4pm and try to look for outmanned buff, which wont be hard to find.

Truebanana.5936:

select any player of Arborstone between midnight and 4pm and try to look for outmanned buff, which wont be hard to find.

In that case, !!congratulations!! because according to millenium matchups you have been ruling the maps from 8am to 14 pm even if outnumbered.
Talking frankly, I do not use to be there at those hours, I can only guess by means of the millenium matchups stats.
In any case you can check that from 5 pm to 10 pm (which is a strong period for you) we can just try to stay due to guerrilla tactics, the zergs at these hours are yours and from Elona.
Elona seems to have much more population than us and u, Arborstone.
Doesn´t matter, I did not want to start a conflict among servers regarding population, each one thinks to know the true, I just wanted to say that we are outnumbered in several peak hours compared to other servers and that with the help of a couple of guilds with different timetable we could hit top3.

Regards,

Haltair

Haltair, no offence intended, I am just curious:
Why would you like to go to T1? You would be nothing but cannonfoddr for Vizu and them Blackies. I play on Elona, and most of the time when I am in WvW I play on the Baruch Borderlands. With all respect, I can tell you – you are not made for T1 (Elona as well, don’t get me wrong). Even if you fill up the lack of population, there is still a lot you have to learn.
Until now – and again, no offence intended here – you are the easiest opponent we faced the last weeks. I wish you good luck with your invitation, but whoever joines you, should know, that there is a lot of work to do. Before that you shouldn’t think about T1, imho.

the fact is that millenium matchup is not such a really great tool as it is not accurate enough.
it depends on the frequency the score is update but there is often 2 or 3 hours without update during day and up to 9 hours during the night.

Aysnvaust.7046:

Haltair, no offence intended, I am just curious:
Why would you like to go to T1? You would be nothing but cannonfoddr for Vizu and them Blackies. I play on Elona, and most of the time when I am in WvW I play on the Baruch Borderlands. With all respect, I can tell you – you are not made for T1 (Elona as well, don’t get me wrong). Even if you fill up the lack of population, there is still a lot you have to learn.
Until now – and again, no offence intended here – you are the easiest opponent we faced the last weeks. I wish you good luck with your invitation, but whoever joines you, should know, that there is a lot of work to do. Before that you shouldn’t think about T1, imho.

Mmmm at the moment Elona score is 204868 and Baruch score is 201722….. I would not have the courage to say that you are our easiest opponent mate!!!! hahahaha
Perhaps you say it is easy because you conquer empty towers, that is not easy is simply empty…lack of population in continental peak hours.

Elona started the contest with 1801473 and goes up with 1818778
Baruch (spaniards) started the contest with 1728783 and goes up with 1789198
hahahaha…yep, for sure big difference…

I agree with you, neither Elona nor Baruch are ready for T1 atm. BUT, if we, spaniards get a couple of strong guilds for your continental peak hours, we will be there, in the top3.
Even with the half of your population we can match you, imagine if we gather enough people for your peak hours.

Regards,

Haltair

I think he’s speaking about your gameplay and teamplay and it’s true, you’re the weakest server that we have fought in this ladder that we have met. Even while we were in the one day matchup, every FFA server without organisation were better than Baruch.
It’s not because spanish people aren’t good, it’s because you don’t seem to have many people who are used to play in world versus world, as i can see that your official forum seem to be dead. You have got a lot of casual player, if not most of your player that are.

Both Elona and Arborstone (lost many people who left us after droping to T2, because there’s an other FR tagged server above our) aren’t as strong as they used to be, but if you ever get in T1, you will be the last server of the matchup with 100k less points as the second, because there, they will be people to fight during the night and you haven’t enough people during the rest of the day to be able to do something. And i’m only speaking about number, not even the quality.

But i’m kind of happy to have to fight you in this matchup, since Elona is really boring to fight. They only fight in their fortress, or try to rush a fortress with 30+ people and 6+ ram.
With you, because you’re not organised at all, it’s good for people who like to play in open space, alone or in little roaming group, or those who want to train their group tactics.

Truebanana.5936:

Even while we were in the one day matchup, every FFA server without organisation were better than Baruch.
It’s not because spanish people aren’t good, it’s because you don’t seem to have many people who are used to play in world versus world, as i can see that your official forum seem to be dead. You have got a lot of casual player, if not most of your player that are.

…they will be people to fight during the night and you haven’t enough people during the rest of the day to be able to do something.s.

Interesting, with less population and without organization we have stolen you 60.000 “points”….Imagine when we start organizing ourselves!!!! Hahaha
The official forum is not the place mate, a year before than the official one we started another forum with tactics, guidelines, alliances, shared raidcall…
But, yep, I agree with you, we need more people for T1…south american players would be great!!!

Regards,

Haltair

10pm prime time, outmanned buff on eternal battlefield and on every other borderland. It’s not your great but yet non existing strategy and organisation (most of the time you use 1 ram, when you aren’t hitting our doors without using any siege weapon) who’s beating us, but your number and also because of all the people in our side who gave up world vs world (by switching to a winning server) after fighting Ruin for 2 weeks.

Srsly… You are a national server! Don’t make another international servers. You want more nations in your server? Then go to Blacktide/Far Shiver/etc. We germans live in GMT +1. We are dominating wvw from 8am to about 18pm. Then the french guys from Arborstone dominate an have like 50% of the map until 2am. Then most people have to sleep because of their work and all you spanish guys do is PvDoor. You haven’t shown how good you really are and you are not really always outmanned. But that is not what i really want to complain about.
I just don’t like the fact that you (Haltair.3062) have nothing like national pride. in my opinion the 2nd Tier is a good place for the best national servers. The first Tier is the place for the international servers with 24hours coverage. Go there with your guild if you want have people from other countries in your server. Sry for the hate/flame. But I jsut don’t like what you want to achive with that idea.

Btw…Dinner? I srsly think you have just 50 people spanish people. You have 200 south american player….

We are used in Baruch Bay to people from other servers coming in the forums to say that yes, we beat them hard, but somehow we are worse players overall due to tactics, organisation and things like that.

They say those kind of things because they cant ever be proven, but sound interesting and makes the poster look like he knows something about what hes talking about.

Nothing new in the horizon, we know why we win. We win because we organise ourselves better than our rivals. We win because we teach our casuals what to do when they are in WvW. We win because our guilds and commanders colaborate on maps. And we win because we beat you in the battlefields.

I always congratulate our rivals. Win or lose, every week gives me fantasic fun moments and tough fights.

Somehow some forum dwellers dont like our servers presence, and are confused and shocked by our success. These people always are proven wrong, normally with hard tought lessons in the battlefields and a strong point disadvantage after the week.

Keep underestimating us. It just makes victory sweeter.

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/1930/gw006ga.jpg

Outmanned buff EB at 11pm and almost doing as good as your server.

suprNovae.5410:

I just don’t like the fact that you (Haltair.3062) have nothing like national pride. in my opinion the 2nd Tier is a good place for the best national servers. The first Tier is the place for the international servers with 24hours coverage.

Lack of national pride? Read the title again…
What is the probabilty that a not spanish speaker guild comes to Baruch?
Perhaps a 1%. So do not worry, mate.
But some spanish guilds or latin guilds based in the american servers could decide coming once they check we beat even more populated servers. In that situation we could have even 24h coverage.
In any case it would be more than enough if we are able to atract enough people from 4pm to 10pm when we are heavily outmanned. We win even in this situation, we haven’ t found our limit yet, with equal numbers we would be the fourth server in Europe.

Regards,

Haltair

Thats a picture of today, Friday reset day at 23pm

The week is done, the new patch is up. there is no one in WvW.

No major WvW guild runs anything untill 1am.

Good try.