Guild Wars 2

Now I am going to try to explain this fact to people and granted only HoD people and JQ people will completely get it, but it is a fact nonetheless.
I see alot of people saying the #1 server wins because of all the transfers every week etc

I am here to tell you that it becomes harder and harder with each week and here’s why
Let’s say on every server there are 8 major WvW guilds, now I know there are many more then that but for this example 8
2 guilds are assigned on Friday night to each map
Now, and btw this actually is real figures
1st week between the hours of 8-10pm est we had about 38 guild members on one map. 2nd week we had 26 with the rest in queue. This week we had 21 with the rest in queue
Now this happens to every guild on our server. So much so last week alone we lost 3 guild with their main reason being they were getting like 1/2 their guild in there
HoD ta guys stated in their last week before moving that most of them couldn’t get in and that pugs were playing most of the match

So we know guild = organization = common goal
38 guild members and 21 guild members on a map I think we can all agree is a huge difference.
Now for the most part these missing 17 guildies are replaced by pug. We all know that type. Never buy any seige, never carry supply, if they take any supply at all is from keeps and towers. And their main purpose is to find the zerg and auto attack doors.

So I think everyone gets the picture
I have finally gotten to the ta mindset, where really we are very strong when we get our members in, but we can accomplish much less when we cannot. Guild members will only have so much patience sitting in a queue for hours upon end. So really they did the smart thing and moved. Just like a few guilds already did

So really when guilds face us Friday-Sun they are basically getting like 70%-80% of what our server actually is.
So it is very easy to see what the #1 server is up against and why HoD had so many transfers off. It may be the same. I can tell you if we get like 15 people in I knwo I will be looking elsewhere.
Ofc I do not speak for the server or guilds just one person

I feel sorry that you have so many other people grabbing at the same coattails. Being a server hopper is truly a rough life.

While all of this is true, moving and creating the exact same situation on a different server helped what? Doubt it helps them in the long run, doesn’t help the server they moved to as it will sky rocket up the ranks, and then have to go through the pain of crashing down hard when all those same people leave for the exact same reasons as before. You think it is fun, for people calling that server home, to have their server destroyed like that?

It works like this is every faction vs. faction game. Organized guilds would rather join the underdog side because they don’t really have queues, can flip stuff (because the other faction owns everything), they dont have to deal with the zerg, and can win some great fights being outnumbered by bad players. (And in this game they even get the out-manned buff).

This is why I think the bigger NA guilds should really be considering transferring to the EU servers. As it stands a big guild transfers to a lower NA server, builds them up in rank, attracts the bandwagoneers, the queue time gets longer and longer, annoying the big guild who switch so they can play together, the server drops and the wagoneers disperse to greener pastures. The flip side of this is that every time they transfer, then the server is in the incorrect ranking and the while the server slowly rises they pretty much overpower whatever servers they are facing, which is kinda boring.

This is just rinse and repeat so long as free transfers stay in place.

On the other hand if you play on the EU servers, no matter how many of the bandwagoneers you attract when you are in tier one, when you want to play most of them will be in bed and the queues will never be unreasonable (at least for you).

Assuming ping isn’t a problem, then at some point I could imagine most of the the EU guilds on NA servers, and most of the NA ones on EU servers.

Nilgoow.1037:

I feel sorry that you have so many other people grabbing at the same coattails. Being a server hopper is truly a rough life.

Well said my friend

So why don’t you just spread out?

If big guild didn’t hang togheter like they did with TA, we wouldn’t have this issue.

Spread in every outmanned server, and stay there.

Who ever is first doesn’t count, the funniest thing is having good matchup. Steamrolling or getting steamrolled isn’t fun.

Sounds like a self-fixing issue.

The bandwagoners jump to the most successful server because it wins.

The good guilds transfers because of excessive queue times.

Bandwagoners ruin server prowess, good guilds carry bad servers up the ladder.

The cycle continues.

I agree with OP about server hopping, this has now caused queue issues and 2 weeks of boring WvW on Blackgate.

Niim.9260:

While all of this is true, moving and creating the exact same situation on a different server helped what? Doubt it helps them in the long run, doesn’t help the server they moved to as it will sky rocket up the ranks, and then have to go through the pain of crashing down hard when all those same people leave for the exact same reasons as before. You think it is fun, for people calling that server home, to have their server destroyed like that?

The guild’s are paying to play together as a guild and if that necessitates them transferring servers to do that then so be it. The band wagoners too pay to enjoy the game by hopping around to the flavor of the week following those guilds so they can call themselves #1. Whether you consider that a “respectable” tactic or not, they’re paying to play the way they enjoy as well .

If anyone has any “blame” here, it’s the people collecting the money that need to step up and stop this weekly server “gutting” and I don’t think any of us can see a good reason not to stop free transfers anymore.

I feel the effects the OP is speaking of. I’ve been on JQ from day one with my guild and these free transfers are working directly counter to any community building that would otherwise be well under way by now. I wonder just who are these people trying to impress in this multi-national, essentially anonymous game? ‘Joe-Schmo’ on such a players next "server of the week’ certainly isn’t going to be thrilled this random guy was on the #1 server last week. If anything, it’s something to be looked down on on my opinion:

“Oh you were on JQ last week? Great. So you’re accomplished at zerging around behind the guilds still there who are actually building their server community and developing winning tactics with them. Wonderful. Glad you’re here doing the same on my server while our committed players sit in the queue…”

You see where I’m going with this…

;P

I’ve been on JQ since day one. Honestly I don’t see any evidence that suggests that many players have transferred here since we’ve been first. In fact the server filled quickly, making it difficult for people to transfer here.

Have you considered that many players did mostly pve at first and are now starting to wvw more?

Magni.2835:

I’ve been on JQ since day one. Honestly I don’t see any evidence that suggests that many players have transferred here since we’ve been first. In fact the server filled quickly, making it difficult for people to transfer here.

Have you considered that many players did mostly pve at first and are now starting to wvw more?

No, actually it happened at the same time that HoD died. The match was still ongoing, but it was obvious that JQ was going to beat HoD. Leftovers from HoD left the sinking ship and piled on to JQ, which cemented the #1 spot for them.

For me it was also when all the people were piping up about how all these people were transferring to JQ. I replied every single time I look at the server JQ always says full, then they replied no server is full all the time. So I started checking when I would log for the night and low and behold JQ was heavy. Sometimes before I go to work, like this morning for example JQ was heavy. I don’t know how many guilds transfer, but I would think tons of singles did, but yea I guess there could be some PvE people but I think that effect would have been sooner then now.