Guild Wars 2

at this point they may as well just give is 3 factions to choose from…..luxon, kurzick and the whatevers use all BL EB and EotM maps and let us have at it just like AB, JQ and FA in GW1, would solve all coverage problems , just give different titles, rewards and whatever to encourage staying with a particular faction of the 3 for a while. basicly the same as Lux and Kurz in GW1 with and an added faction. WvW has been on the decline since the end of season 2 and the megaserver change, the loss of server identity especially for newer players has made it irrelevant and every other mode of the game makes more gold for your shinies. its a shame , for 2 years I’ve been half hartedly playing PVE and PVP hoping that with HoT WvW would be brought back somehow , had all I can take with the farming thing and leagues just suck . its too bad that they have slowly killed a great game in all modes but debatably PVE . one can hope that this balance shift/change that is coming is sweeping and will take some time to figure out while they figure out how to further kill the game

Kanebrake.6192:

FallenTear.3710:

Anet want Esport , guys. Deal with it : (

They don’t seem to have much luck with that either.

I hope they will fail hard, to open there eyes.

Beta later this year…. Is sad when I remember the first time I play WvW more the 3 years ago. I was like WOOOOOO and spend hours of hours trying to believe that I find a game mode that I can play 10 consecutive hours. Now is just a joke. I enter look around and no more 15 minutes to get out and prefer to watch a movie. The part that really worries me is that ANET do not care what people say. No sense destroying one of a kind mode game. This announce jut kill the excitement all we have by thinking that old wvw days can be back. At least for me is an end.

Haralin.1473:

Kanebrake.6192:

FallenTear.3710:

Anet want Esport , guys. Deal with it : (

They don’t seem to have much luck with that either.

I hope they will fail hard, to open there eyes.

They already did, they spent $200k on a (two) tournament(s) where the balance was so bad that one of the teams rage quit when the score was 72-0 and barely anyone watched it. Of those that did watch it they were mostly there for the twitch chat banter.

Imagine what they could do to WvW with 200k.

Anet’s language vs Actual Definition
(1) “We are working on it”
They haven’t started and they have no clue what needs fixing

(2) “Soon, Soon, upgrades soon”
Next expansion

(3) “Some time later”
Never

(4) “We notice there is a problem”
‘Where is the problem? ohhh lets give them golem week, there you go, problem solved’

(5) “GW2 is different to other mmos, there is no grinding.”
Introduce ascended weapon/armor sets, new legendary skins/back items etc aka more grind fest

Anatolian Turk.4057:

Anet’s language vs Actual Definition
(1) “We are working on it”
They haven’t started and they have no clue what needs fixing

(2) “Soon, Soon, upgrades soon”
Next expansion

(3) “Some time later”
Never

(4) “We notice there is a problem”
‘Where is the problem? ohhh lets give them golem week, there you go, problem solved’

(5) “GW2 is different to other mmos, there is no grinding.”
Introduce ascended weapon/armor sets, new legendary skins/back items etc aka more grind fest

You forgot Guild hall grind.

Entenkommando.5208:

Anatolian Turk.4057:

Anet’s language vs Actual Definition
(1) “We are working on it”
They haven’t started and they have no clue what needs fixing

(2) “Soon, Soon, upgrades soon”
Next expansion

(3) “Some time later”
Never

(4) “We notice there is a problem”
‘Where is the problem? ohhh lets give them golem week, there you go, problem solved’

(5) “GW2 is different to other mmos, there is no grinding.”
Introduce ascended weapon/armor sets, new legendary skins/back items etc aka more grind fest

You forgot Guild hall grind.

Yes that too and million of other stuff.

I give Arenanet about 0.5% chance off making it, 9,5% they do update that fail like HOT did and 90% nothing at all happens under first 6month off 2016.

Rip WvW = Rip Gw2

…to me

Im done,im tired.

Too little too late.
See yall when kitten is ready and maybe in BnS

Listen guys they worked on the overhaul for over a year already and still couldnt find an answer to things like population imbalance etc.
This should be more than enough proof they dont know what to do with the gamemode. So they’ll do something and when its ready we will be told its to late to change anything, enjoy whatever they came up with.

So just leave the game, leave the forums, let the game(mode) die its natural death and move on in life. Play some other games, go out etc, just leave this ship and dont force yourself to do something you dont like.
If you have any hope left just check out on GW2 news once in a few weeks and come back when you feel like Anet improved anything.
If you keep playing while complaining on the forums Anet wont care since you are active players and thats what they care about.

Slomo.1029:

If you keep playing while complaining on the forums Anet wont care since you are active players and thats what they care about.

Nope. I think they care more about gemsales. Sure, they care a bit about metrics and log in numbers, but in the end it is the cash they want and need.

SpreadCheese.5208:

Why not just start developing GW3?

If you need another year for fixing WvW, they’re won’t be anyone around to play it. Especially with Crowfall and Camelot Unchained who both do WvW/RvR coming out later this year.

Yes, I’m looking forward for Crowfall myself.. That one will be the big one. In the mean time.. ppl are actually moving tomorrow to BnS for there launch party. & if that’s not anoth, BDO is coming out soon as well. So it’s not like we are stuck with one broken mmo.

ps: Anet, Loyalty is a 2 waystreet. It goes both ways. Just saying.

I guess it’s time to sell my WvW stuff before it becomes invaluable like the foods did.

The problem is that anet lost the credibility for wvw players, if they don’t open and explain what theyr are working on and have worked most of the playerbase won’t thrust a word

esparta.7028 Dude, you got that wrong.. They lost Cred on all counts.. Not just WvW base players but spvp & Pve as well. Wile admittedly less on the pve count then the 2 other mods. No surprise here.

Curse you Anet, your state of the game update have pretty much made people in the guilds I run with download other games. They’re now branching into other games, and we all know that simply leads to less GW2 playtime, and less money spent in GW2…and eventually guilds breaking up because people are going to be playing everything other than GW2. We’re now losing commander coverage on a T1 server due to lack of fights & action, and players are dropping like flies in multiple guilds. Amazing how you could do all that with 1 post. People seriously expected better, people thought you were going to finally give us some good news with WvW. People thought big changes were coming soon, as in Q1 2016…not end of the year 2016. People stuck around for the good news, only to be disappointed yet again.

Players are tired of being lead by a carrot on a stick they’re never going to get. One promises after another, the lies about how WvW was going to be the main focus after HoT launch. Yeah, we all know what you’re really working on, you’re working on raids, because another raid wing’s coming woot woot. More balances coming based on esports, woot woot, what could go wrong?! Meanwhile, WvW in its current iteration is still buggy as heck, balance is totally off whack due to banners & aerial strike gimmicks, oasis event causing zone-wide lag is still there, population is still not balanced and all servers are losing WvW participation all around.

I’m beyond sad & disappointed.

The sadest thing about all that is that they probably don’t even get why everyone is so upset, after they released the good news about the changes and the big overhgaul.

“focus on the successful parts”
“add depth to the successful parts”
“WvW not ready, later”

OMG I lol’ed!

Everyone knows to get a WvW’er to engage you troll them. I’m logging in for some WvW right now!

It makes more sense now when A-net said “later this year” for the release of WvW overhaul; A-net is very busy working on “Gliding in Central Tyria – 13 January 2016”. The priority is always PvE likealways. They are still trying to add new content to PvE while the broken game mode aka WvW, which has been broken for many years now is left in the shadows, remains on life support and doctors say ‘it doesnt have long to live’.

gavyne.6847:

Curse you Anet, your state of the game update have pretty much made people in the guilds I run with download other games. They’re now branching into other games, and we all know that simply leads to less GW2 playtime, and less money spent in GW2…and eventually guilds breaking up because people are going to be playing everything other than GW2. We’re now losing commander coverage on a T1 server due to lack of fights & action, and players are dropping like flies in multiple guilds. Amazing how you could do all that with 1 post. People seriously expected better, people thought you were going to finally give us some good news with WvW. People thought big changes were coming soon, as in Q1 2016…not end of the year 2016. People stuck around for the good news, only to be disappointed yet again.

This is pretty sad, even if the overhaul is good there won’t be anyone left to play it.

morrolan.9608:

gavyne.6847:

Curse you Anet, your state of the game update have pretty much made people in the guilds I run with download other games. They’re now branching into other games, and we all know that simply leads to less GW2 playtime, and less money spent in GW2…and eventually guilds breaking up because people are going to be playing everything other than GW2. We’re now losing commander coverage on a T1 server due to lack of fights & action, and players are dropping like flies in multiple guilds. Amazing how you could do all that with 1 post. People seriously expected better, people thought you were going to finally give us some good news with WvW. People thought big changes were coming soon, as in Q1 2016…not end of the year 2016. People stuck around for the good news, only to be disappointed yet again.

This is pretty sad, even if the overhaul is good there won’t be anyone left to play it.

Exactly 1 year ago someone claimed t1 was dead. if it was dead a year ago wouldn’t we all be gone by now??

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/WvW-needs-megaserver-tech-like-EOTM/first#post4702058

I’m sure it has died down a lot but I don’t see it dying off anytime soon. Guess it depends on the time you play. I’m NA east coast and play a lot. I only notice a few hours out of the day that there is down time. BL’s been getting attacked a lot more this week than previous weeks. Prime time is still blob city in EBG and when I log off after midnight the blobs are still going..

I think anet just ignores every post that claims this game mode is dead because people have been saying it for a long time. (actually they ignore way more than just that wth am I saying)

Anyway if it dies it dies.. All games come to an end eventually. I almost quit myself. I don’t know what it is but I just keep coming back after taking a week or so break then I’m back to putting in more hours than I should..

briggah.7910:

morrolan.9608:

gavyne.6847:

Curse you Anet, your state of the game update have pretty much made people in the guilds I run with download other games. They’re now branching into other games, and we all know that simply leads to less GW2 playtime, and less money spent in GW2…and eventually guilds breaking up because people are going to be playing everything other than GW2. We’re now losing commander coverage on a T1 server due to lack of fights & action, and players are dropping like flies in multiple guilds. Amazing how you could do all that with 1 post. People seriously expected better, people thought you were going to finally give us some good news with WvW. People thought big changes were coming soon, as in Q1 2016…not end of the year 2016. People stuck around for the good news, only to be disappointed yet again.

This is pretty sad, even if the overhaul is good there won’t be anyone left to play it.

Exactly 1 year ago someone claimed t1 was dead. if it was dead a year ago wouldn’t we all be gone by now??

T1 is still alive because almost everyone transferred there. For me anyway the game is dead ever since the GvG guilds left the game. The fights there are now are just so borrring.

briggah.7910:

morrolan.9608:

gavyne.6847:

Curse you Anet, your state of the game update have pretty much made people in the guilds I run with download other games. They’re now branching into other games, and we all know that simply leads to less GW2 playtime, and less money spent in GW2…and eventually guilds breaking up because people are going to be playing everything other than GW2. We’re now losing commander coverage on a T1 server due to lack of fights & action, and players are dropping like flies in multiple guilds. Amazing how you could do all that with 1 post. People seriously expected better, people thought you were going to finally give us some good news with WvW. People thought big changes were coming soon, as in Q1 2016…not end of the year 2016. People stuck around for the good news, only to be disappointed yet again.

This is pretty sad, even if the overhaul is good there won’t be anyone left to play it.

Exactly 1 year ago someone claimed t1 was dead. if it was dead a year ago wouldn’t we all be gone by now??

Not saying its dead now (although its on life support now) I’m saying by the time the overhaul comes, which will be what 9 months, it will be if it keeps going down the same path.

Yeah don’t think I said anything about T1 being dead. But just because NA prime timezone is blobby, doesn’t mean WvW is in a healthy state, especially with banner & trigger abuse. NA primetime have always been blobby on NA T1 servers.

But there used to be action during EU, now it’s just havocs ppting. There are also other tier servers that are really ghost towns, the fact that servers have fallen from full to very high, and very high to high, etc.. shows it well.

People are just bored and many stuck around this long for that good news, you know since they promised WvW being their main focus after HoT launch. Many threw their hands up in the air yesterday after reading Colin’s blog post about how WvW revamp won’t be until later this year. Heck not even the revamp, they simply said they’ll start the beta of the revamp later this year.

GG

Xillllix.3485:

T1 is still alive because almost everyone transferred there. For me anyway the game is dead ever since the GvG guilds left the game. The fights there are now are just so borrring.

I hear ya and that could be it.. There was actually a recent post from someone from t8 that total shocked me because they said they are having fun down there LOL

I do miss the days of the guilds running around.. I was always a casual pugster lol but I’ve tagged along with many guild groups in the past and I learned a lot just by following them around. Now its usually just a massive blob fight which sometimes is fun but I really used to live for smaller scaled fights.

I’m glad some of you enjoy WvW still today. I enjoyed it for 3+ long years myself. But you simply cannot argue the fact that WvW is a bleeding game mode. All servers are on open status AFTER the majority of people still playing WvW jumped to the upper tiers. I’ve only seen this occurrence twice:

1. At launch
2. After Anet raised server caps

That alone shows not nearly as much people is playing.

These I believe are the only things we can fault Anet for:
1. Removing all rewards from WvW
2. Server coverage and PPT the only measure of score
3. Allowing the abuse of server transfers

The rest of the problems are partially player driven. Things like match manipulation, stacking servers, etc. are well known by the WvW community that has occurred. Not going to get into specifics but every veteran WvW player knows this.

I believe WvW will continue to bleed until Anet addresses their part. It’s up to the community to fix the rest.

gavyne.6847:

Yeah don’t think I said anything about T1 being dead. But just because NA prime timezone is blobby, doesn’t mean WvW is in a healthy state, especially with banner & trigger abuse. NA primetime have always been blobby on NA T1 servers.

But there used to be action during EU, now it’s just havocs ppting. There are also other tier servers that are really ghost towns, the fact that servers have fallen from full to very high, and very high to high, etc.. shows it well.

People are just bored and many stuck around this long for that good news, you know since they promised WvW being their main focus after HoT launch. Many threw their hands up in the air yesterday after reading Colin’s blog post about how WvW revamp won’t be until later this year. Heck not even the revamp, they simply said they’ll start the beta of the revamp later this year.

GG

Nope you didn’t say it but figured I’d go and dig up that old post. Honestly I’m just as mad as everyone else.. I wanted to punch my screen when I read that blog. I guess wvw to me is like a bad addiction. No matter how many times I’m fed up with it I keep coming back lol

I’m just going to try and have fun for as long as I can I guess. For some that fun is already gone and I blame it on anet 100%.

and yea that wait till end of year for the beta was a HUGE slap in the face

StrykerMagnus.4120:

So WvW, my favorite part of the game, won’t have an attempted fix until later this year (if that).

With that in mind, are there other games out there that have a good form of WvW? The only one with which I’m somewhat familiar is ESO.

Keep an eye on CU and hope for the best.

Wetpaw.3487:

StrykerMagnus.4120:

So WvW, my favorite part of the game, won’t have an attempted fix until later this year (if that).

With that in mind, are there other games out there that have a good form of WvW? The only one with which I’m somewhat familiar is ESO.

Keep an eye on CU and hope for the best.

I’ll be watching CU. Also, I might buy Witcher 3 in the meantime.

Oh, and Pinterest. There’s always Pinterest.

Got two toons set up on BnS already, which would never have happened otherwise. Those dollars would have gone to gems if WvW weren’t so trashed. We’ll see how open world PvP there compares to WvW here…

Well I felt this day was coming for a while, so I had prepared my farewell before the HoT launch.

Some random ele GvG footage from back in september and november. The best game mode Anet NEVER supported: https://vimeo.com/139760047

The video itself is nothing spectacular, I just wanted to have something to remember it all when I look back at this game.

See you in the next big MMO, and perhaps casually here still, still undecided about that.

StrykerMagnus.4120:

Wetpaw.3487:

StrykerMagnus.4120:

So WvW, my favorite part of the game, won’t have an attempted fix until later this year (if that).

With that in mind, are there other games out there that have a good form of WvW? The only one with which I’m somewhat familiar is ESO.

Keep an eye on CU and hope for the best.

I’ll be watching CU. Also, I might buy Witcher 3 in the meantime.

Oh, and Pinterest. There’s always Pinterest.

You get about 200 hours out of witcher 3. 10 more hours from the DLC that I think was about 9 bucks but once you do everything there is not much to do really. I enjoyed it and tried to play through it again on a harder level but never finished it a second time.

Jayne.9251:

Well hold on a sec here folks.

Anything that has such a dramatic change in proposed dates means that something major got scrapped, pushing a release date a significant time into the future. Even mid-2016 is still six months development time. That’s not a short period of time. So they have to go back to barebones and revisit their initial push.

I’m hopeful for the first time in months.

It likely means they read this forum and read reactions to proposed changes and now are going back to rethink it.

This is a good thing.

RIP EoTM Megaserver WvW. So glad we never met.

xox

You’re assuming that they’re actually going to take that time to develop WvW content instead of simply re-allocating more people to work on Living Story 3 and other PvE garbage.

I think you’re letting your optimism cloud your judgment; we’ve been down this road before. I know the flavour of this carrot by heart.

That’s it… I quit.

I can’t deal with this lack of care from Anet anymore. WvW is barely hanging on. It needs changes now not a year from now. By the time changes are started there will be no community left to receive them. GG too little.. far too late..

Goodbye all. Had some good times here. Maybe ill check back in a year, we’ll see…

msalakka.4653:

Jayne.9251:

Well hold on a sec here folks.

Anything that has such a dramatic change in proposed dates means that something major got scrapped, pushing a release date a significant time into the future. Even mid-2016 is still six months development time. That’s not a short period of time. So they have to go back to barebones and revisit their initial push.

I’m hopeful for the first time in months.

It likely means they read this forum and read reactions to proposed changes and now are going back to rethink it.

This is a good thing.

RIP EoTM Megaserver WvW. So glad we never met.

xox

You’re assuming that they’re actually going to take that time to develop WvW content instead of simply re-allocating more people to work on Living Story 3 and other PvE garbage.

I think you’re letting your optimism cloud your judgment; we’ve been down this road before. I know the flavour of this carrot by heart.

Yes, Jayne assumes a lot.

There was not a “big change in proposed dates” because we were never given a date in the first place.

Also assumes we are not getting megaserver tech/alliances/cross server stuff… Doesn’t take much to figure out what “population balance” could possibly be or how it could potentially be handled.

Having said that, it’s probably an alliance system that puts together 2 matched servers inside wvw based off of all current population numbers to make each side as close to equal as possible.

Second guess is the 3 sided eotmesque system.

We shall see.

At the rate they’re killing the game, 3 servers per region ought to be plenty.

msalakka.4653:

At the rate they’re killing the game, 3 servers per region ought to be plenty.

Yeah, we can only imagine how desolate wvw will be by that point.

Such poor development decisions and timing and forethought. I’ve never seen a game company make such blunders and not make changes right away.

msalakka.4653:

I think you’re letting your optimism cloud your judgment; we’ve been down this road before. I know the flavour of this carrot by heart.

I’m indefatigable darling (Well almost).

I want them to keep the old carrot. We did a lot with the old carrot. For three years.

within that half a year most of the leftovers who still hesitate to finish playing gw2 will quit as well – so the wvw changes are for who? free account users?
anet showed us definately how far in the black hole we are stuck and how much do they care about money but not the players?

and after those 3+ years i dont believe anet in any word stating “fix” as all changes in the past kitten up something else which hasnt been fix for a long time after

it is very sad to watch how the best pearl on the market died in agony after those 3+ years …

they could have left wvw alone and not updated it since 2013 or even 2014, and most of the playerbase would still be here, having fun, loving the gamemode still.

It’s not a bugfix/update or even new content when you break something that nobody wanted changed.

xXBAKESXx.6731:

they could have left wvw alone and not updated it since 2013 or even 2014, and most of the playerbase would still be here, having fun, loving the gamemode still.

It’s not a bugfix/update or even new content when you break something that nobody wanted changed.

I said something similar but when I did some players jumped on me because I didn’t see wvw in such a bad shape that so many others seemed to have seen it. Yea it had its issues and problems but most of use just learned to live with it and still made the best out of it.

I think one of the big issues is that now more wvw bugs are in place and it looks like those bugs will be around for a long time. If anet actually fixed some of the older wvw bugs in a decent amount of time, more people would have faith that anet can fix what we have now.

Well, I had pve fun when HoT launched… but NO fun in WvW my favorite game mode. I don’t like the new maps at all. I tried to like them. I also tried to advocate for others to give it time to like them. Just can’t, and don’t, like the new maps.

I puttered around in the new HoT content to grind masteries, but that got old really fast.

So, once F4 came out, I stopped playing GW2 because it was just ‘more fun’. I haven’t logged into GW2 except to download patches, and to post this rant today.

I miss the old WvW maps and guild mechanics… I have a small guild and can’t muster up enough resources to have the banners and buffs we used to have before HoT. It was fun and rewarding to toss down a banner or add +5 supply to a camp whenever we had the means to do so by easily earning the resources by playing the way we wanted.

The rewards and fun have been nerfed way too much for us to enjoy what used to be our favorite game mode.

I’m waiting out the not so fun game that GW2 has become until solid improvements are made to WvW, guild mechanics that support small guilds (like they used to) and the rewards throughout all game modes. Right now, GW2 just isn’t ‘fun’ enough to play. There are other games out, right now, that are are more deserving of my time. Time that deserves to be spent having fun, not wasted on grinding for blues, greens and a few silver.

Swagger.1459:

So sad. Not unexpected at all.

Bolded quotes…

“WvW’s Big Update

As our competitive game director John Corpening discussed, we’re currently working on a large-scale overhaul to WvW that helps deal with core issues like population balance, scoring, rewards, and the need for 24-hour coverage.

We’ve focused a heavy amount of developer resources on this overhaul for WvW, and the team has been working hard for over a year now to solve these complicated issues. We may not be ready to reveal more in early 2016, but you’ll have an opportunity to get all the details and give feedback when we go into the beta phase of this massive project later this year. And as a brief reminder: WvW tournaments are currently on hold, but they’ll return once we’ve released this new format for WvW."

RIP GG NJ GF GLHF

…don’t forget that “new format” bit in there

Joey.2769:

RIP _________________________________________I hope BnS has at least some decent open world fighting.

Last I heard there was a petition going to add open world pvp server for NA BnS. I think you can duel/fight by wearing some special “pvp” cloths that show you’re down to fight. And the PvP arenas are like 3v3 I think. But I haven’t played it, so I could be wrong. For me Crowfall looks to have the right idea for RvR, and it looks pretty good already(unlike CU, ugh it looks like a 32bit game) even though it’s release will be down the road quite a ways.

Oh, and RIP WvW, you are sadly missed. I guess the ppl saying “oh, ppl are just trying the new HoT pve content, they’ll be back” excuse we heard was wishful thinking. I can’t lie, I was crossing my fingers that was the case. Over 50% of the ppl I played WvW with on a daily basis left the game. But pvp gave me something to do, but that’s a mess also which is doubly annoying. Slow fixes/patches are coming here and there, but not fast enough to sate the anger of a lot of players.

JDjitsu.7895:

Last I heard there was a petition going to add open world pvp server for NA BnS. I think you can duel/fight by wearing some special “pvp” cloths that show you’re down to fight. And the PvP arenas are like 3v3 I think. But I haven’t played it, so I could be wrong.

Its a Korean MMO right? If it beats Archeage sPvP which consisted of 5v5 on a single tiny map with about 4 different assets and the same modern shipping container (for some reason, despite being a medieval fantasy) repeated 10 times, I will be shocked. Shocked i say!

Murksler.5261:

So the “major overhaul” coming after the next expansion?

Stability and guardian unique aegis becomes more useless….

If you really only like massive fights I do not think BnS will be what you are looking for. I did one beta and the pve is your normal pick up as many quests as you can, run around do them, then turn them in for rewards type of game. PvP as far as I know is 1vs1 and 3vs3 and it does have open world pvp but it has to do with the outfits.

As I was running around in low level zones I noticed higher level players camping around outside of those areas probably to pick off low level players. WoW ringing a bell to anyone? I didn’t even get into the pvp though so not even sure how fun or not it is. Its a different type of game more like a fighting style game that has to do with landing combos.

It was pretty fun as it was just something different and I’d say for a free game its worth a shot to try out. I actually have a little over an hour of the beta I did if you want to see what the pve is all about

https://youtu.be/qubLzEnVLJ4